Running SMOOTH 4.3 + Motley, the ROM post here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1899024 claims about 5800 quadrant score on this combo, but I'm still hitting about 3700 only. Any ideas?
thetrystero said:
Running SMOOTH 4.3 + Motley, the ROM post here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1899024 claims about 5800 quadrant score on this combo, but I'm still hitting about 3700 only. Any ideas?
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not that quadrant is important or anything like that, but youre doing it wrong.
1. set your cpu speed to highest cpu speed high/higest cpu speed low.
2. ondemand or interactive governor, deadline scheduler.
3. turn off fsync.
4. disable hotpugging/enable all four cores(i don't know if motley kernel has this feature).
5. enable gpu rendering in the devices main settings, developer options.
6. 5800 is weaksauce
simms22 said:
not that quadrant is important or anything like that, but youre doing it wrong.
1. set your cpu speed to highest cpu speed high/higest cpu speed low.
2. ondemand or interactive governor, deadline scheduler.
3. turn off fsync.
4. disable hotpugging/enable all four cores(i don't know if motley kernel has this feature).
5. enable gpu rendering in the devices main settings, developer options.
6. 5800 is weaksauce
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Indeed, quadrant doesn't really matter. I get more than 7000, running smoothROM and m-kernel, but you shouldn't care about that score as long as your device is running nice and smooth.
as long as your tablet is running all the apps you want smoothly and quickly with no lags, you're fine with what it is. I'm using smoothrom and motley and it's perfect for what I need it to do. just enjoy the tablet before you end up bricking it.:good:
Hi,
Is the cloudy kernel the best for pure performance in terms of lag? Not looking for battery or other performance enhancements.
Is cloudy kernel 1.5 the latest ( just to make sure i have a backup kernel to re-install just on case)?
Is the tweak on hidden menu for HIGH TEMPERATURE still relevant with these kernels?
I am running with ondemand governor.
And just to make sure:
- to install a new kernel i just boot to recovery and flash the kernel without any wipes, right?
- i have xposed and some G2 tweaks running, i don't need to disable/reset or anything?
Thanks for your help! I am still learning.
Nico.
bloof said:
Hi,
Is the cloudy kernel the best for pure performance in terms of lag? Not looking for battery or other performance enhancements.
Is cloudy kernel 1.5 the latest ( just to make sure i have a backup kernel to re-install just on case)?
Is the tweak on hidden menu for HIGH TEMPERATURE still relevant with these kernels?
I am running with ondemand governor.
And just to make sure:
- to install a new kernel i just boot to recovery and flash the kernel without any wipes, right?
- i have xposed and some G2 tweaks running, i don't need to disable/reset or anything?
Thanks for your help! I am still learning.
Nico.
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Hello Nico.
I'm hoping that I can assist you with this topic.
First off, regarding the kernel you have plenty of choices. There are two, however, that I'd recommend.
1. Dorimanx Kernel. That kernel is absolutely amazing with LOTS of tweaks, thermal protection, ad-blocker, allows overclocking to 2.8Ghz and much much more. I can't list all the features because they are so many. But there's one thing in particular - it's fast. Dorimanx has created a hybrid kernel from 3.4.xxx and 3.10.y source codes. This is my go-to kernel.
2. Bruce Kernel. It's a modified stock kernel with Bruce's own tweaks. It's fast, very battery friendly but lacks customisation. It also doesn't have thermal protection or any thermal throttling.
Now to your other questions:
Yes, Cloudy 1.5 should be the latest.
I wouldn't mess with the ROM thermal protection found in hidden menu. The gain in speed is most likely negligible but you make your phone more prone to heat damage.
Ondemand governor is great for smoothness, but you'll have a ton of options if you decide to use dorimanx. I use alucard because it's the sweet spot between amazing battery performance and smoothness.
You can install a new kernel without any wipes. Kernel doesn't interfere with ROM as such and you don't have to disable anything. A Kernel is basically what makes software and hardware work together.
I hope this helps!
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Hello Nico.
I'm hoping that I can assist you with this topic.
First off, regarding the kernel you have plenty of choices. There are two, however, that I'd recommend.
1. Dorimanx Kernel. That kernel is absolutely amazing with LOTS of tweaks, thermal protection, ad-blocker, allows overclocking to 2.8Ghz and much much more. I can't list all the features because they are so many. But there's one thing in particular - it's fast. Dorimanx has created a hybrid kernel from 3.4.xxx and 3.10.y source codes. This is my go-to kernel.
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Thanks a lot for your answers, these are exactly what I was looking for.
I just flashed Dorimanx, and without knowing too much on how to tweak it (more on that later), it is really smooth. I am keeping it!
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I wouldn't mess with the ROM thermal protection found in hidden menu. The gain in speed is most likely negligible but you make your phone more prone to heat damage.
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OK, great to know, it is so often repeated online that I used to have it. It is now off, absolutely no noticeable difference!
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You can install a new kernel without any wipes. Kernel doesn't interfere with ROM as such and you don't have to disable anything. A Kernel is basically what makes software and hardware work together.
I hope this helps!
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Thanks. Flashed perfectly, twice (I had trickster mod on and wasn't sure what it reset at boot, so uninstalled it and re-installed Dorimanx.)
Got 1040/2900 on geekbench even if that is not really what I care about. I had 950/2750 before, not that much noticeable difference in %.
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Ondemand governor is great for smoothness, but you'll have a ton of options if you decide to use dorimanx. I use alucard because it's the sweet spot between amazing battery performance and smoothness.
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OK, we're onto kernel tweaks , I have a few questions:
I discovered that I had STweaks installed, so let's use that.
1) Apart from governor alucard, what other settings should I apply? You mention thermal controls. I expect the defaults of STweaks are OK? If not, what should I do?
2) I found a GPU governor, should I do something there to have better performance?
3) my real goal is to achieve super smoothness when interacting with the phone, I don't play high CPU 3D games or anything like that. I want the phone to react instantly when I press somewhere or open something or press home or recent apps. Any advice? I modified touch boost frequency...
4) if I "reset settings to default" in STweaks, will it reset to Dorimanx' installed default as I just installed the kernel?
5) so that I don't bother anyone anymore, is there a manual about all these tweaks in Dorimanx/STweaks?
Thanks again so much!
Hey bud, I dont know if u found out the answers to these questions but I can share my information with u as I see nobody answered it
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3) I'll tell u the best settings for smoothness but also with great battery life All questions ll be answered in one answer :
Make governers Alucard
Touchboost:1.9
Powesave Switch: Performance mode
Power Efficent Worqueues : Unticked
Cpu Tweaks:ticked
Max Cpu 0,1,2,3 freq:2572800
MAx screen off freq :Max Allowed
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Alucard Hotplug
Hotplug always active
2 cores boost
4 cores max online
2 cores min cpu online
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gpu min 100
max 533
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I/O read ahead 2048
row row
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cron all on
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Logcat Logger always disabled
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And from developer settings of ur ROM, make window animation, transition animation and animation duration scale 0.5x
If u re not dependant on xposed module, then use ARTruntime(faster)
4) Yes, all settings ll be restored to original Dorimanx settings.
5) I havent seen any yet
This is all I can say, let me know about results
Darius129 said:
Hey bud, I dont know if u found out the answers to these questions but I can share my information with u as I see nobody answered it
1)
2)
3) I'll tell u the best settings for smoothness but also with great battery life All questions ll be answered in one answer :
Make governers Alucard
Touchboost:1.9
Powesave Switch: Performance mode
Power Efficent Worqueues : Unticked
Cpu Tweaks:ticked
Max Cpu 0,1,2,3 freq:2572800
MAx screen off freq :Max Allowed
________________________-
Alucard Hotplug
Hotplug always active
2 cores boost
4 cores max online
2 cores min cpu online
___________________
gpu min 100
max 533
__________________
I/O read ahead 2048
row row
____________________
cron all on
___________________
Logcat Logger always disabled
_____________________
And from developer settings of ur ROM, make window animation, transition animation and animation duration scale 0.5x
If u re not dependant on xposed module, then use ARTruntime(faster)
4) Yes, all settings ll be restored to original Dorimanx settings.
5) I havent seen any yet
This is all I can say, let me know about results
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Hey there. Thanks a lot for your answers, despite the thread being so old.
I actually learned a lot since i posted that
I use 2x intelliactive, 2x alucard, alicard HP, max freq 2.3, 2.3, 1.9, 1.9, gpu 100-533, i/0 read 1024, dirty tatios 5%/10%
Your settings look interesting, you sure you get great battery life? With 2 cores min? I am going to try
No mate, I said that's settings for u, u said u don't care about battery, so I tried to give u the best settings I can come up with for performance, I myself use 3 cores max, all 2,3 ghz 1 core boost, Alucard on-demand Alucard. 1024. 100 320 GPU. It's pretty smooth with art. But if I wouldn't care about battery, I would do the settings I told u. Hehe
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No mate, I said that's settings for u, u said u don't care about battery, so I tried to give u the best settings I can come up with for performance, I myself use 3 cores max, all 2,3 ghz 1 core boost, Alucard on-demand Alucard. 1024. 100 320 GPU. It's pretty smooth with art. But if I wouldn't care about battery, I would do the settings I told u. Hehe
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no worries!
I learned to care more about battery I realized that it is really smooth anyway. I have a lot of SOT daily (movies, etc) and realized that using performance settings just drains too quickly and is not needed.
I do put animations to x0.5 (transition animation to OFF).
What I am really struggling with is home redraws... A bit better now, but they used to be 1000x times a day.
I would run with ART but it takes a lot more memory, and with my 16 GB I don't have enough memory left when running ART.
Buddy, I am on 16 too. I had 8.5 hours sot with art and cloudy 2.1!! I use nova launcher and I am happier with it can give it a try
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Buddy, I am on 16 too. I had 8.5 hours sot with art and cloudy 2.1!! I use nova launcher and I am happier with it can give it a try
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I have a few very large apps (navigon, games,...) they take 2-3 GB.
I al so have movies, remaining is only 1.3 GB.
If i want to backup ROM i need to delete obb files, etc. With ART i will have nothing left!
Tried niva but didn't like it. Will try apex again maybe, but i really like the look of G3 home.
Hmm, I see. I didnt know that internal memory and has a thing to do ART, I just made it ART and everything was ok. Launcher is a matter of taste I guess. For lg launcher, I read that there are some hidden settings to lock it in RAM, so that it doesnt redraw that often, maybe u can take a look for that. Hope to share more information for better experience with our phones
@bloof I forgot to tell, I also like how g3 theme looks, and I use a g3 theme with my nova launcher. If pm me ur gmail, can send u my screenshots
I Need the Best gaming Lollipop Rom for I9505 with great performance and Battery life ?
That would be AOSP rom by the JDCTeam.
Make sure you set alucard kernel to the extreme performance or performance profile if you want better performance in gaming.
doctorex1 said:
I Need the Best gaming Lollipop Rom for I9505 with great performance and Battery life ?
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"great performance and Battery life ?" Performence or battery life! 5.1.1 CM with Alucard Kernel
if you get an alucard kernel in your rom then the raising the minimum clock speed to 810 khz on all four cores and the minimum for GPU speed to 200 khz it will help.
*gentle fair sleepers off
*arch power on
*CPU governors to ondemand or alucard with alucard hotplug
in developer option hardware overlays to off.
personally I think ktkernel was better with more options but you'd need to stick to AOSP 5.0 for that or lower
If he were to stick to older android versions (5.0 and lower) then he might aswell get KT kernel, which gives him the posibility of overclocking the CPU and GPU, something that is missing from the other kernels right now.
GPU overclocking isn't really stable, it actually takes away from the gaming experience.
How can increasing the GPU frequency, and therefor the performance, be bad?
If you overclock it too high of course it is unstable. But you should be able to take around 500 MHz easily.
GDReaper said:
How can increasing the GPU frequency, and therefor the performance, be bad?
If you overclock it too high of course it is unstable. But you should be able to take around 500 MHz easily.
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I can't remember the steps you get in kt but I'm pretty sure the uppermost ones were next to unusable, 500 is only just above the standard speed.
the games are always going to have a fixed system requirement levels based on the hardware we have so there isn't that much to gain over optimisations for our roms I feel...
I always judge a rom based on how well it can play shadowgun deadzone. most untweakable kernel rom combos aren't so great fresh out of the box.
Well, I used KT kernel in the 5.0 days. I ran a gaming profile created by ktoonsez himself, which had GPU overclock, and ran stable all the way.
I usually judge a rom by how fast it opens the settings app. This presumes that the app was fully closed, otherwise it will just switch to it, wich is a lot faster than actually opening it. Also, animations are all off.
So, between the pressing of the icon and the actual opening of the app there will be a black screen (if animations are turned off). The longer you see that black screen, the slower the rom is.
Hello guys!
Here you may post your benchmark score.
Please mention ROM, kernel, kernel setting, any tweaks(mod), device.
Mine is here-
ROM- RR N 31/01 weekly
Kernel- vegito 5.0
Kernel setting- GPU clock at 550mhz
I/O- bfq
Device- a6020a46
With hyper kernel(unreleased and will not be release soon due to some problem)
GPU clock at 550 mhz
And other is default.
See 3D is quite impressive.
AND ROM is RR N and no other tweaks
Not benchmarked by me
Here are result of extreme kernel
ROM AOKP
30/12 build
3D is good but GPU is over clocked up to 1080mhz.
Guys enable faux fix on vegito kernel it improve 3d a lot. You will feel smoothness.
:good:
netship said:
Guys enable faux fix on vegito kernel it improve 3d a lot. You will feel smoothness.
:good:
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how?
SkoopMan said:
how?
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Simple GPU algorithm by faux123
Although 3D score not increased but I feel smoothness (I underclocked GPU to stock).
Please correct me on anything that I'm about to post below. I will correct it ASAP. Here Goes:
Here's what I've noticed since switching from a stock based ROM (Viper 9) with using EX Kernel to LOS 14.1 or AICP 7.1.2.
From what I've researched, these AOSP builds are using a MSM8960 kernel on our apq8064 board. It is also CAF based kernel as well. MSM8960 is very very similar to APQ8064. Which is why it works on our M7. APQ8064 support ended on CAF around ICS/JB days (from what I've skimmed in the CAF changelog). I've been researching different tunables on the interactive gov and the Ondemand gov. I'm trying to find the best settings to extend the battery while on 7.1.2. To me, it just dies too quickly with default gov tunings either on LOS or AICP. I'd like for other users to post their settings and which gov they are using while on 7.1.2. I'll post my settings as soon as I find the right combination on either the interactive gov or the OnDemand gov.
Edit: I've noticed that by disabling MPDecision and disabling at least 2 cores, battery life has improved. What I have been doing when I play a game is re-enabling the other 2 cores and switching to interactive gov for better in-game experience. I also set the min GPU freq. to 400mhz. Another tunable I adjust is the sync freq in the interactive gov. When gaming I set to either 918mhz or 1026mhz depending on how much load the app places on the cpu.
I've also been tinkering with L Speed app (root required as well). Enabling a profile caused my phone to exhibit a faulty touchscreen. Cherry-picking the optimizations I want doesn't have the same effect.
Which ROM supports customizable turntables or what kernel? I don't use ondemand anymore, it's always interactive for the CPU and simple for the GPU on my end.
i use a kernel manager like Kernel auditor or EX Kernel manager to adjust kernel settings. With those to apps you must have root.
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i use a kernel manager like Kernel auditor or EX Kernel manager to adjust kernel settings. With those to apps you must have root.
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Yes I have root, but i'm saying do you have a custom kernel?
zeeBomb said:
Yes I have root, but i'm saying do you have a custom kernel?
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technically it is. It supports dt2w and s2w. It was linked from the AICP 12.1 Nougat thread