I rooted and flashed Fresh 2.0d about 2 weeks ago. I have flashed the Verizon radio, and if anything it made the battery life slightly worse. I was wondering if it is a consensus that people are getting worse battery life on fresh than on the stock 1.5 ROM? Today my phone died from a full charge in under 4 hours. I am expecting that I will have poor battery life due to a very bad signal, but it is far worse than the stock ROM. I am also starting to get concerned about the temperature. It has been sitting around 43C all day. I have had it plugged in for over 3 hours and it is only at 7%, which means that it is using almost all the current that can be supplied over USB. I am probably going to try DamageControl if I have time this weekend to flash it, but I like Fresh and was just checking to see what others thought. The battery use thing is saying that over 60% of my battery usage is due to cell standby and phone idle. I recently put setCpu on the phone, will that cause some of what I am seeing? All settings are onDemand with a 528 max and variable mins based on status(lower mins if lower bat or higher temp).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=662581
Trying this fix, will update tomorrow when I give it enough time for a thorough test. Thanks...
Update: It works awesome, only 10% in 2 hours at little to no signal and roaming!
Friend has a new Desire Z (bell, unlocked). Using it on AT&T network.
When at a house, and we use WiFI (30Mbps DL, 25Mbps UL), the speeds are VERY inconsistent. With my iPhone 4 using speedtest.net, it shows up as 20/15 each time. (WiFi is a little slower than the modem).
With the Desire Z, we get 15/10 (which is fine/acceptable). Then 3 minutes later we do it, we get 5/2. Without even moving the phone or touching the modem connection (not downloading anything on the computer), the connection just gets slower. Then it might be fast or slow, basically it's a toss-up.
The first time we noticed the issue is because when we are outside, we get HSPA speeds of 2.5/1.0, then randomly decreases to 0.1/0.05. HUGE difference. And VERY inconsistent. He is using a microSIM from iPhone 4, with an adapter, so we figured maybe the SIM card is getting loose at certain points? However, the WiFi is also inconsistent in addition to the HSPA, so it's probably not that.
What should I do? Is this the situation where I have to flash a new radio or something? (Please suggest others if I am wrong).
Thanks!
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Also, his battery is kinda weak. The battery health is apparently clean/healthy. He came from an iPhone 4, where he would have 3G, WiFi, and GPS on at night but not actually using them. Wake up, and 3% battery loss, maybe 5. WITHOUT using them, just having them on.
Now, with the Desire Z, we have the WiFi + 3G on, but NOT the GPS. He is losing 20%-25% in 8 hours without even using the phone.
Information about battery shows a high Cell standby (25%) and Phone idle (25%) percentage. When going into Spare Parts > Partial Wake usage, we didn't find anything really fishy. BUT we had rebooted so perhaps some info may have been lossed. Should he just go to sleep tonight and report the Partial Wake Usage statistics again?
We have a feeling it may be some apps refreshing at night.. But he clears all the apps with Advanced Task Manager except for like Facebook (2 hour interval refresh), GMail, and Google Voice.
I highly doubt a 20% battery decrease overnight is normal.. My mom's Atrix only loses about 5% overnight, with the same parameters I gave before.
I thought it may be a bad battery, BUT the phone idle + cell standby are abnormally high.
Thanks!
Why is this in General as well as Q&A?
Put this in Q&A, didn't get any answers. Went to General, saw that more people posted there, even for Q&A's. Have an actual problem that research didn't help much with, so made a thread. If necessary, I would be glad to remove the thread on Q&A.
By the way, thanks for the answer .
Would you be able to post your software specs? Radio version, rom version, android version? My Bell DZ only loses about 3% per night if I don't plug it in to charge. I, like you, have wifi, gps and hspa enabled with no huge I'll effect.
The stock battery is usually alittle weak. Being a 1350mA, it doesn't have the capacity either, but that is why it is user replaceable. I picked up the mugen 1800mA battery that gives the phone the stamina to last a full day of full use or 2-3 days of light use. I forget how much I spent on it but it was definitely an upgrade.
As for the signal issues, we would need to know what you are running. The latest .30 radio is recommended for AT&T if I remember correctly. Also, the type of rom (stock or custom) might give us abit more insight.
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I lost about 10% overnight today I believe, possibly 15 (don't remember exactly what I left off at).
Not sure on all the stats because I don't know how to check them but
Android Version 2.3.4
Cyanogenmod 7.1.0-RC-Vision (seller did it for me)
What is the radio version? I think that is baseband not kernel? If so its 12.52.60.25U_26.08.04.30_M3
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If anyone knows about the sporadic data, that'd be helpful. It does seem that if I go into airplane mode a few times it fixes itself, but I doubt everyone does that to ensure fast HSPA speeds
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I've never used CyanogenMod Custom ROM's before, so I can't speak from that experience. I can, however, tell you that while running RMK (and team's) Custom ROM's (Virtuous, G-Lite, Unity) and now MIUI, battery life has been excellent, even with the stock battery. The current build of MIUI lasted for about 15hrs on a day of full use, RMK's ROMs would last about 12-15hrs of moderate to full use on the stock battery. Alot of the custom roms have different power management settings and tweaks, if you're comfortable with flashing, I would recommend another ROM and see if that helps with either of your problems.
If you like the Vanilla/AOSP look of android, try RMK's G-Lite ROM. It is very lightweight, fast and stable. I remember having one issue with it, but it was a very small issue and didn't stop me from using it for a few months.
I am currently on MIUI English 1.7.1 and with moderate use I am sitting at 50% charge spent over 2 days. Moderate for me is about 300 texts with about 10 phone calls and a total of about 4hrs of web browsing.
I can link you to those roms if you need, but they're all located in the Dev section. Your radio seems like it's on the right version, so perhaps it's not the issue. Try running another rom for a week and see if that helps to any degree.
I re-calibrated the battery, let it die, charged it up, let it die, charged it up. I followed the instructions to the letter and all that.
It was at 100% when I went to sleep. Woke up 8 hours later, 74%.
Settings > Battery shows nothing high 40% for cell standby and phone idle. Everything else (Facebook, etc.) REALLY low.
Then I went to Spare Parts > Battery Usage, Partial wake usage, everything incredibly low as well..
I will try Watchdog, but could it just be a bad battery? Or maybe should I try a different ROM?
Thanks!
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I re-calibrated the battery, let it die, charged it up, let it die, charged it up. I followed the instructions to the letter and all that.
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NO! This is poor recommendation, and people need to stop perpetuating it. People keep recommending this, but its NOT a good idea to let the battery drain until it dies, just to calibrate the battery meter. While the protection circuit on the battery will USUALLY prevent over discharge, it is not 100% failsafe. There is a slight possibility that over-discharge of the battery will happen, and then the battery is no good, and will need to be replaced. Unless you have a special battery meter with a "boost" function (which most people do not have access to). See the following table on Battery University, where it says for Li ion batteries: Discharge: Prevent full cycles
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/do_and_dont_battery_table
Best practice is to charge to 100%, drain to about 20%, repeat a couple times. No need to go below 20%. The battery meter is not very accurate to begin with, so there is no value added going to 0% versus 20%, but you risk killing the battery.
Plus people keep abusing the terminology. You are just calibrating the battery meter, not "calibrating the battery". When people say this, I think its just a holdover from the old days of NiCad batteries, where you had to condition/discharge the batteries periodically to prevent memory effects (Li ion batteries do not suffer from memory effects, and require no period cycling).
Can't really speak to the Atrix or the iPhone. But the battery drain on the DZ described by the OP is right in line with what I've seen. I also have an unlocked Bell DZ on AT&T, and battery drain of 2-4% (on various ROMs and couple different radios) when the phone is completely idle, screen off is totally normal. Best I've seen on my DZ is with the Virtuous Unity ROM and the .30 Gingerbread radio, where I've seen somewhere around 1-2% drain per hour when idle.
One possibility, is that the different phones are not reporting % battery the same way. As I've mentioned above, the battery voltage meters on phones is not very accurate, maybe in the range of 5-10% accuracy (although, even with this, the drain on the DZ versus the ATrix and iPhone still sounds inconsistent). But what is more important is how many hours of usage you get before needing to charge.
Thanks for the info.. Ill try charging that way.
And I honestly think the battery is just reading it wrong. It honestly feels like it dies faster idle than not, go figure. Yesterday, at like 10% battery, I wanted to kill it off, and played a game for like 10 minutes straight, still 10...
Then I tried leaving the flashlight on for 10 minutes on and it maybe lost 1
How is that battery I recommended from dealextreme though?
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It's interesting to see all the troubles that people are getting on the DZ...
I've had my DZ for about 6months and never seen any of the reported problems.
My 1350mha will last me on a frequent usage near 24hrs and if I'm using it lightly like when i'm busy at work... almost 2days worth.
Mind you I'm running Cyanogen MOD7. No GPS. Wifi is on and I use JuiceDefender.
Cheers mates.
Last night, I charged my phone to a complete charge before going to bed to see what kind of drain I would see overnight. After 9.5 hours, my battery had only lost 2% sitting idle. That is with 3G on, but no Wifi or Bluetooth enabled.
The phone idle accounted for 47%, cell standby 48% and Android system 4%
While it seems remarkable, I'm still not convinced that its not my phone incorrectly reporting the battery level. On a typical day when I pull my phone off the charger, the first 10% is very slow to drain. Today, I have sent a few text messages and played maybe 3 minutes of word feud. That has drained 6% of my battery.
We will see where I'm at later in the day. I suspect that the actual level is lower than the 94% it is reporting. Typically, I get between 12-16 hours of usage, depending on how much I play with my phone.
Well I am at nearly 23 hours on this charge. Have used the phone rather lightly during the day. It sat idle for about 9 of those hours while I slept last night.
Conclusion: Idle drain is very minimal on my device and looks as though the percentage was being reported rather accurately. I'd say if you're having a lot of drain while sitting idle, do some digging and find what it is.
More info:
Facebook: update 1 hour
Gmail Sync: 1 hour
Fancy Widget update: 1 hour
Brilliant Quotes widget: update 1 hour
Light Bluetooth usage (about 15 minutes)
Wifi on all day (not overnight so about 14 hours total)
Screen brightness set at about 50%
Average signal strength: -100dbm
I work 8 hour shifts and my 6P on Pure Nexus lasts through the shift with ~30% when I get home.
I was listening to music through Bluetooth and when I turned off my headset around 5 hours into my shift, my phone shut off and wouldn't turn on. I was in and out of the freezer, so I thought it was the cold. I got home, turned it on and plugged it in and saw it had 32% left.
An 1h30m of charging and it only charged 7% which is really unusual and is the first time.
I have AccuBattery Pro and it is saying it's going to take 10 more hours to fully charge using fast charge. Android lockscreen says "Charging rapidly. 12 hours until full."
Also in AccuBattery, although my design capacity for the battery is 3450 mah, it normally says estimated capacity is 2200, but is now saying I have over 5000 mah in capacity.
When unplugged, it has a screen on discharge rate of 50-70%/h when the average is 23%/h.
Is the battery dying? I thought it would gradually decrease in capacity and not suddenly change overnight.
When my battery bug hit..it just hit. No warning signs or anything. I was crapping out anywhere from 60%-10% and everywhere in between. I bit the bullet and RMAed for a new battery (they gave me a new screen too for whatever reason) Before i sent it in my Accubattery stats were saying i was at 75% capacity and now ive been at 100% capacity since i got it back and i can happily go from 100%-0% like its supposed to.
Although your situation does sound unique its almost certain you'll need a battery replacement.. or try a new ROM and see if it keeps happening.
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When my battery bug hit..it just hit. No warning signs or anything. I was crapping out anywhere from 60%-10% and everywhere in between. I bit the bullet and RMAed for a new battery (they gave me a new screen too for whatever reason) Before i sent it in my Accubattery stats were saying i was at 75% capacity and now ive been at 100% capacity since i got it back and i can happily go from 100%-0% like its supposed to.
Although your situation does sound unique its almost certain you'll need a battery replacement.. or try a new ROM and see if it keeps happening.
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Unfortunately, I got my phone from Rogers around November 2015. I don't even know what they can do about it. It's been averaging about 14%/h charging which is about 1/3 the speed. I've been using the same ROM for several weeks with no issues and haven't installed anything new lately other than app updates. I can try upgrading Pure Nexus, but it seems like they have a power menu bug at the moment.
Do you think your charger could be broken?
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Do you think your charger could be broken?
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My wife has a 6P also. I was trying her charger and it's the same thing. I've rebooted twice. It's still draining at least about twice the normal average when disconnected.
So it's roughly draining at about twice the normal speed without doing anything and charging at a third the normal speed.
I seriously can't afford to replace it. I regret choosing a phone without replaceable batteries and will not do that again, which means no Pixel phones. At least I still have my Galaxy Note 3 which still works.
if i were you id backup the entire phone (or whatever is importannt to you) to my computer and download the J factory image and do a fresh clean flash and pray that it clears out whatever is going on. Sucks to start fresh, but worth a shot
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if i were you id backup the entire phone (or whatever is importannt to you) to my computer and download the J factory image and do a fresh clean flash and pray that it clears out whatever is going on. Sucks to start fresh, but worth a shot
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I use FolderSync to backup my phone nightly to my NAS server.
The slow charging speed may be due to high cpu temperature. It was hovering around 40° for whatever reason. I set it down on a cold granite window sill and the temperature dropped to 35° and was charging at twice the speed, but still slower (1000mah vs 1550mah from before). I've been holding it for a while and the temperature is again going back up with charge speed slowing. Again, I've never had this happen before.
Thanks again, I'll probably restore the phone and bring it to Rogers later this week to see what they say.
First time posting. Bought two new S7 Edge phones in late November. My wife can go a day or two or three without charging, similar use with hers. I am lucky to get maybe 6 hours ever since I bought it. I don't use it for gaming, I use social media, email, news, some music, take a lot of pics of the kids, Photoshop, reading, research, etc. My phone is my laptop replacement.
I installed CPU-Z a while back because my phone is often hot. Sensor readings often exceed 150° F with battery temps exceeding 105° (with very little activity).
I've tried charging with rapid charge disabled, decreased screen brightness & resolution, shut down background processes, did malware and virus scans, factory reset, etc. No change.
I do have many apps installed on my phone and I have moved as many as possible to the 64Gb micro sd. No difference. Looking for suggestions. Is this a defective phone? Should I be looking at a replacement? My Note 4, Note II, and Thunderbolt all had much better battery performance.
Your help is appreciated.
I can get like 10-11 hours, did you check "Battery" section to see what is draining her ?
Well I can get even 12h of sot so I don't know how can you get such low battery life. Also, if it heated up to 100° Celsius the battery is not healthy anymore,you should change it
There is absolutely no way that U can get 12 hours of SOT on official rom and with average usage. Don't confuse the OP.
About the problem,
Did U try factory resetting the phone? That should be the first thing to do when the battery is draining abnormally. Also. send us pics of battery usage.
Sorry for the late reply. Apparently I turned my notifications off.
Yes, I have done a factory reset twice in the past few months. I think I'm going to backup in the next week or so and do another one and this time try installing only a minimal set of apps for a few weeks and see how it goes.
Here is a screenshot of my current battery usage. I charged the phone twice today. It's actually doing ok at the moment, usually android system uses the most juice.
Also a shot of the current temps.
Thank you all again!
Hi,
Just a comment, not a review, mainly to catch the eye of any other Uwatch 3 buyers out there.
Mine arrived from AliEx 2 days ago. Its light, well made and comfortable, but as for the claimed 5-10 days per charge it is miles off. The battery drains at about 10% per hour with everything switched off, even dropping 30% when physically powered off overnight. The Bluetooth and GPS are polling continuously and can't be turned off which doesn't help.
Something's very wrong here. I've reached out to support, but no response so far.
Any one else had similar experiences?
I've had mine for 2 days. Light usage, not stressing it, just normal notifications and alarms.
Battery arrived at 96% I haven't charged it yet, currently at 59%.
Mine is the same battery drains away over night with it not doing nothing it needs s firmware update to sort this but can't see it happening as they too busy with there phones
Hi, did anyone find a way to update or mod the firmware? veryfitpro shows V12, the original one, and never proposed an update