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Im on the stock .605 rom, and it never seems like there's enough free ram. Its frequently in the 30-40 range, applications never return to where they were and I have massive home screen redraws even with adw ex. Is there a solution? I have tweaked the minfree values, and tried v6 supercharger.
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The best way to keep RAM clear is kind of a big commitment. And, this is my opinion. There are certainly people who would disagree with me.
First, people will say task killers are ineffective. This isn't necessarily true. The Linux architecture runs faster with more free memory. If an app uses 35MB memory average, it won't make too much of a difference if you're using 100/200MB of available memory. However, it will make a difference when Linux has to start paging and swapping.
MIUI has exemplary memory management. In addition, holding the 'home' key will bring you to a popup menu which has a built-in app killer. This will free up memory when your phone is running slowly.
My recommendation is to install MIUI and use that feature when you want.
Id rather keep it stock because I know it wont have major bugs like liberty did. I couldnt use sleep and that was an issue for me with school.
And I switched back to the stock launch. It seemed to help
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MIUI is actually nigh-on bug free, but I'll assume you've already rejected this. A MIUI discussion would be a PM thing haha
Admittedly, Liberty is a bit buggy. Nice ROM, though.
An app killer widget will keep memory free.
Also, bear in mind, the operating system your phone comes with, by default, has extraordinary memory problems. You will, by default, have less RAM available.
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Im on the stock .605 rom, and it never seems like there's enough free ram. Its frequently in the 30-40 range, applications never return to where they were and I have massive home screen redraws even with adw ex. Is there a solution? I have tweaked the minfree values, and tried v6 supercharger.
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If your rooted you can use titainuim backup pro to freeze apps that are draining your ram down likely there are some that run all the time that you dont use just remember to defrost them when you need them. Avoid uninstalling preinstalled stuff because it can cause a great deal of problems. If you find issues after freezing there is a likelyhood that what you froze is needed to make others run correctly. Task killing works for a bit but they will all resart after a bit again sucking your ram down
Hi guys. I have been on android since 2011 and ever since I have been modding my phones and devices. One thing I found out is that when you pack your device full of goodies and games and apps, your device can start to get laggy and the battery drains faster.
As for the Galaxy tab 3 I saw that it gets quite laggy when some apps are installed....
Here's what I do to manage and Maintain my tab:
Battery life:
1.) The number 1 thing I do when I unbox and setup my device is install Battery Doctor.
-This app I found charges your device in a certain way to prolong battery survival and it does it in 3 steps.
-This app also has modes that you can turn on that you can customise to a setting of your desire.... it comes with 3 as standard. Extreme mode and super saving mode helps a lot when your not using it for a while.
- Lastly it has optional widgets that you can put on home screen that optimises the battery, cleans apps/cache.
2.) Another one that you may find as useful is MobileCare. This app has a battery saving mode, App manager and Task killer if your are looking at JUST battery. This app offers a much simpler way to reduce battery drainage from the click of a switch power saver mode is enabled.
Performance Enhancing Apps
So to have optimum performance without rooting your device or overclocking here is what I use:
1.) MobileCare - As well as battery saving there a few other tweaks it has that I didn't mention above....
-Game Speeder- this basically give you a choice of the app you wish to run and it will basically optimise the app/game for you so it runs as smooth as possible.
- It also has a built in Antivirus/Anti-theft feature which also speeds and improves performance if there are viruses or ads slowing you down.
- Task killer- this app basically kills all apps and processes so the ram is nice and fresh.....1gb RAM can get packed sometimes.
2.) Memory Booster- This apps really helps as well.
-It features a Quick boost mode when you just want free space and instant performance.
-It also shows proof of it working in the form of a monitor and a diagram showing ram before and after.
-This app also features its own task killer and a boost log.
-This app is really useful because it comes with some really nice small compact widgets that you can do the quick boost function and task killer from a simple tap on the home screen instead of actually opening the APP itself.
Please feel free to add on to this list....I wrote these because they were the most efficient in terms of being able to use them seemlessly.
This thread is ideal for those who havn't got root access and want to maintain their tab 3's.
I will upload links Shortly.
edit-----I know the Task Killer mentioned dosnt kill ALL the apps and processes. However the point of that app is to close all of apps and processes that wouldnt harm your system if they were closed, so you have you normal open apps that need to be closed and then some background apps and clears cache etc.
Not bad, but rooting is so easy and you get much more control.
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Not bad, but rooting is so easy and you get much more control.
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Yup.. But even after rooting... BAttery doctor really improves battery!
I use juice defender ultimate and du battery saver pro. Best battery saving app. The best contributor is lux auto brightness( paid version). Brightness is very crucial for saving battery. Ex. At night our tabs tend to be more brighter. You can even set the brightness for any light level your in.
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I use juice defender ultimate and du battery saver pro. Best battery saving app. The best contributor is lux auto brightness( paid version). Brightness is very crucial for saving battery. Ex. At night our tabs tend to be more brighter. You can even set the brightness for any light level your in.
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LOL I totally forgot about that one. I liked that app for its quick features... most of it was paid though..
Task killers are useless and in fact do more harm than good. Android is quite good at managing its own memory and doesn't need the help. Task killers tend to stay in memory which defeats the purpose, and 99.9% of the time the tasks they kill automatically restart anyway. They are not at all necessary and should be avoided.
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Task killers are useless and in fact do more harm than good. Android is quite good at managing its own memory and doesn't need the help. Task killers tend to stay in memory which defeats the purpose, and 99.9% of the time the tasks they kill automatically restart anyway. They are not at all necessary and should be avoided.
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I do and also dont agree having task killer why? They dont kill every single app u wanted and thus free only 5MBs of ram. Most apps like Advance Task Killer do the job well but the app itself takes the memory which makes it a disadvantage having a third party app task killer but then they do free up memory very well. Until now I havent found an app which has very less ram consumption and frees up memory very well.
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Simple, already built in
Ironman38102 said:
I do and also dont agree having task killer why? They dont kill every single app u wanted and thus free only 5MBs of ram. Most apps like Advance Task Killer do the job well but the app itself takes the memory which makes it a disadvantage having a third party app task killer but then they do free up memory very well.Until now I havent found an app which has very less ram consumption and frees up memory very well.
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They already have a task killer/ram manager already built in.
Simply holding down the middle button brings up all your resent apps with the option to kill all on the right, and on the left an extension which shows among others a RAM Manager.
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They already have a task killer/ram manager already built in.
Simply holding down the middle button brings up all your resent apps with the option to kill all on the right, and on the left an extension which shows among others a RAM Manager.
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I do know that.
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so laggy
Hi guys, I just got the tab 3 8.0, and I like most part of it but the performance is seriously bad..I have restored ask my apps from Google server and while running apps and switching between them, I can't take all the lags it has. I just got it today so I can return it if I want but I'm wondering if rooting this device actually gains much performance improvements. I used to have a galaxy s2x, which has a similar if not worse spec than this tablet, and I don't know if I was running rooted version of touchwiz or not but the performance was pretty good. This tablet is much worse. A simple reboot fixes the lag but after a few hours, as I use it, I notice the stutters while using it. I just had a serious lag in Google plus app, it was stuttering so bad, but it came back to smooth after 5 seconds.
So installing the custom Rom available for tab 3 8.0 improve the performance significantly? I know there are not many ROMs for tab 3 8.0, so any user of this device just rooted the tab and tweak it themselves to gain performance improvements? Not just little bit, but a lot.
Thanks!
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Hi guys, I just got the tab 3 8.0, and I like most part of it but the performance is seriously bad..I have restored ask my apps from Google server and while running apps and switching between them, I can't take all the lags it has. I just got it today so I can return it if I want but I'm wondering if rooting this device actually gains much performance improvements. I used to have a galaxy s2x, which has a similar if not worse spec than this tablet, and I don't know if I was running rooted version of touchwiz or not but the performance was pretty good. This tablet is much worse. A simple reboot fixes the lag but after a few hours, as I use it, I notice the stutters while using it. I just had a serious lag in Google plus app, it was stuttering so bad, but it came back to smooth after 5 seconds.
So installing the custom Rom available for tab 3 8.0 improve the performance significantly? I know there are not many ROMs for tab 3 8.0, so any user of this device just rooted the tab and tweak it themselves to gain performance improvements? Not just little bit, but a lot.
Thanks!
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Mine is not laggy in the slightest, in fact it's quite zippy. Instead of blaming the device, look at your apps. It's possible one of them is the culprit. If a reboot helps, it sounds like you have too much stuff loaded in memory. How much free space do you have?
I know what you guys mean...... I know they dont kill all the apps....BUT it still makes a difference.....even if it kills off 200mb of cache and apps.... It makes a dramatic improvement to performance if you are running on a a stock rom! Not all of the task killers work as effectively as eachother I admit but some apps are really good for a quick time boost
I'll chime in. I always read that task killers are useless, because Android inherently does a good job of managing memory or what not. I personally dislike Android's autokiller; the more RAM you have the more it will work non-obtrusively, but it generally has a tendency to kill apps I don't want killed, when they don't need to be killed, and it does nothing at times to kill apps I don't want running.
What I do is I use Minfree Manager (I run it manually on boot, I'm sure there's a file somewhere you can edit which makes the app unnecessary)) to tweak the auto-killer, such that it doesn't kill apps except when absolutely necessary. My previous phablet, I used ZDBox to kill non-whitelisted apps every time I turned the screen on (and I manually killed whitelisted apps when applicable). This worked well and I only have good things to say about ZDBox, the older version was very lightweight and easy to use. Unfortunately ZDBox's task killer is incompatible with the Galaxy Tab 3 (at least my T211).
Thus far with the T211 I have been using Super Manager to kill non-whitelisted apps (like Google Play Services, etc) on standby. I am not sure whether it kills them, it only claims to "clean memory." Yes, they all start back up and memory usage increases quickly once again relative to the blacklisted apps, but this still prevents these apps from running non-stop and accumulating RAM usage, and even if that is meaningless, it at least serves a purpose by flashing a note in my status bar every time I toggle my screen on and off, regarding how much free RAM I have and how many apps are running. Yes the service runs in memory constantly, but that can't possibly be causing a problem because everything is fairly speedy.
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Mine is not laggy in the slightest, in fact it's quite zippy. Instead of blaming the device, look at your apps. It's possible one of them is the culprit. If a reboot helps, it sounds like you have too much stuff loaded in memory. How much free space do you have?
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I know what that guy means though..... I was running stock rom with stock kernal on my 7.0 and it was fine until I started downloading apps for it....It got to a point where no matter how much I overclock to performance it would still lagg even when i closed all my apps.
However I downloaded a custom rom with all these tweaks and now im running those same apps I had before running as sweat as a nut without even overclocking.:silly:
Hi mate, you are using my ROM, right?
I just quote, so other users get to know RocketTab as well...
And I'm still working on further improvements...
My Galaxy Tab 3 8.0 runs great from stock, but since rooting and using arshull's kernel (latest release) with the addition of trickster mod app, I am getting super snappy performance! With the ability to tweak cpu and gpu settings and build.prop tweaks I couldn't be happier. Battery life is good and I am a heavy user and lag is nonexistent in games, even some of the heavy duty ones.
BtW, a big thanks to arshull for his development with the GTab 3 8.0, and this forum and all its contributors! :good:
sw6lee said:
Hi guys, I just got the tab 3 8.0, and I like most part of it but the performance is seriously bad..I have restored ask my apps from Google server and while running apps and switching between them, I can't take all the lags it has. I just got it today so I can return it if I want but I'm wondering if rooting this device actually gains much performance improvements. I used to have a galaxy s2x, which has a similar if not worse spec than this tablet, and I don't know if I was running rooted version of touchwiz or not but the performance was pretty good. This tablet is much worse. A simple reboot fixes the lag but after a few hours, as I use it, I notice the stutters while using it. I just had a serious lag in Google plus app, it was stuttering so bad, but it came back to smooth after 5 seconds.
So installing the custom Rom available for tab 3 8.0 improve the performance significantly? I know there are not many ROMs for tab 3 8.0, so any user of this device just rooted the tab and tweak it themselves to gain performance improvements? Not just little bit, but a lot.
Thanks!
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BretonGirl said:
Mine is not laggy in the slightest, in fact it's quite zippy. Instead of blaming the device, look at your apps. It's possible one of them is the culprit. If a reboot helps, it sounds like you have too much stuff loaded in memory. How much free space do you have?
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well keep in mind the 8.0 has an extra .50 of RAM. So that does effect the performance. I'm having the same issue. I have the S3 with 1.5 of RAM and never have any issues with lagging or apps running out of memory. Im wondering the same thing as the OP if a root would benefit this tablet in the way of performance.
If anyone has a 10.1 that they have rooted could you post any results or performance improvements that you saw from it?
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well keep in mind the 8.0 has an extra .50 of RAM. So that does effect the performance. I'm having the same issue. I have the S3 with 1.5 of RAM and never have any issues with lagging or apps running out of memory. Im wondering the same thing as the OP if a root would benefit this tablet in the way of performance.
If anyone has a 10.1 that they have rooted could you post any results or performance improvements that you saw from it?
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Same here really curious to know the results
Please give us the link of the specific app "from google play" and also please don't give ad.fly or something that makes us go to some advertisement first before going to the application place, Thanks.
Thanks for the guides.
Thanks . I will really help beginner to have keep an eye on their phone
Stock, unrooted, 16GB, original Nexus 7 (with plenty of free space 6GB), but over the past few updates it has slowed to a crawl. I have wiped the App's caches and cache partition (which help for a short while), but it is still painful to use.
It is running 4.4.4 at the moment, and am wondering if a full reset will actually help for the long term. I thought the whole idea of KK was to improve performance on less capable hardware. If that is really the case, something is horribly wrong on mine.
Note that I have no interest in rooting or flashing unless it is absolutely necessary.
My original Nexus 7 with 8gb has recently been horribly slower too. I am rooted and running the latest official release of CyanogenMod. I have over 1 gb free. I am guessing this problem is fairly basic or low level and that (hopefully) others are seeing it too so it can be fixed.
16 GB and it can get painfully slow, at times.
I uninstalled Facebook which made a world of difference, and now I can reboot when it crawls to get it back to decent speeds.
Yeah, rebooting it helps, but only for a short while. So none of you have recently done a factory reset?
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Hey Everyone,
So I eagerly flashed the MHC19I image on my 6p, since I'm always wanting the latest and greatest, even if the phone was basically perfect for me anyways with the Feb factory image.
I've noticed though after this update the phone seems to manage RAM much differently. Before, after a fresh boot, my "free memory" would usually be 1.4 GB. This has been pretty consistent across several updates (had phone since December). After using the phone for a while, opening closing apps, going through the day, etc. the memory usage would generally be around the same, with usually 1.4 or so free.
With this build however, when I first boot up the free memory is higher, 1.6 GB, which is great. However, after just a few minutes using a few apps, the free memory drops to 1.2 or 1.3, with "system" showing around 1 GB. I definitely never saw system memory usage this high before.
Anybody else seeing this? I know Nexus 5x users have been reporting lower memory usage with MHC19I, which is great since the 5x had some performance issues. I guess this build has changed the way the phones manage their memory. I'm not saying this is a bad thing necessarily, more of an observation. Just curious if others are seeing the same or if there's some random glitch with my phone / apps.
EDIT: I am stock, not rooted.
Interesting find. I'm still on Feb factory image just as you were. Phone is running great and I'm torn between flashing to the "latest and greatest" or sticking with what has been working wonderfully. Knowing me......I'll flash it tonight and report back my findings. I didn't get this phone to NOT experiment lol.
Also, I've read a lot of people having issues flashing to that newest build. A lot of users reported TWRP issues which scares me. I did find a thread that posted an experimental release of TWRP 3.0.1 (I think) that resolved the initial issues. Guess I'll give it a go...
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Hey Everyone,
So I eagerly flashed the MHC19I image on my 6p, since I'm always wanting the latest and greatest, even if the phone was basically perfect for me anyways with the Feb factory image.
I've noticed though after this update the phone seems to manage RAM much differently. Before, after a fresh boot, my "free memory" would usually be 1.4 GB. This has been pretty consistent across several updates (had phone since December). After using the phone for a while, opening closing apps, going through the day, etc. the memory usage would generally be around the same, with usually 1.4 or so free.
With this build however, when I first boot up the free memory is higher, 1.6 GB, which is great. However, after just a few minutes using a few apps, the free memory drops to 1.2 or 1.3, with "system" showing around 1 GB. I definitely never saw system memory usage this high before.
Anybody else seeing this? I know Nexus 5x users have been reporting lower memory usage with MHC19I, which is great since the 5x had some performance issues. I guess this build has changed the way the phones manage their memory. I'm not saying this is a bad thing necessarily, more of an observation. Just curious if others are seeing the same or if there's some random glitch with my phone / apps.
EDIT: I am stock, not rooted.
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That's so odd for someone on the bleeding edge to have issues. Give it time
do remember that our device has 2762896kB of available RAM.. and if you're not using 100% of that the extra space is going to waste.
..don't get me wrong, I love having some comfort room..but I also know a few ppl whos' laptop is less powerful than our 6Ps ;]
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That's so odd for someone on the bleeding edge to have issues. Give it time
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I'm impatient. They've had a whole day to work out the bugs
Pain-N-Panic said:
Interesting find. I'm still on Feb factory image just as you were. Phone is running great and I'm torn between flashing to the "latest and greatest" or sticking with what has been working wonderfully. Knowing me......I'll flash it tonight and report back my findings. I didn't get this phone to NOT experiment lol.
Also, I've read a lot of people having issues flashing to that newest build. A lot of users reported TWRP issues which scares me. I did find a thread that posted an experimental release of TWRP 3.0.1 (I think) that resolved the initial issues. Guess I'll give it a go...
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Yeah Feb factory image was basically perfect for me. I don't use Bluetooth much so didn't have any of those issues. I had no issues flashing, but like I said I'm stock with no root, so no twrp to worry about. And yes we buy these phones to experiment!
Update: Had the phone completely freeze on me. First it lagged like crazy and wouldn't respond to touch, then screen went blank. Had to hold down power until finally it shut off. Seems to be fine after a reboot. I definitely never had anything like that happen since I got the phone. Hopefully it was some random one off bug!
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do remember that our device has 2762896kB of available RAM.. and if you're not using 100% of that the extra space is going to waste.
..don't get me wrong, I love having some comfort room..but I also know a few ppl whos' laptop is less powerful than our 6Ps ;]
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Yep I'm aware of all that. Like I said, not really a complaint, more of an observation.
Here is a place to share your experience with MM update.
Discuss stuff like battery life, performance, bugs and other things.
Let discussions begin!
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Battery life and stability is good so far!
First day on 6.0.1. I am happy so far with battery life and stability. About 5 hours of SOT and almost 24 hours of use.
That's great. No turning back to LP for me
better wifi connection on MM too. Just wish I had TWRP for it so I could make a backup
haven't had problems with MM yet, battery seems a bit better, Doze for sure improve stanby, rest so far stable and working as it should
Liking it for the most part. Stable, not met any bugs. RAM is good, battery seems about the same. Not keen on the new wallpaper settings style and the new audio wizard is confusing. I also got the beta version of the zen launcher - only slight visual tweaks really, but gives it a bit of a fresh feeling.
Bug: Every time I transfer a compile apk to install, it always takes me out the first time the package is corrupt but install the second test.
I had a recurring bug display after running a graphics-intensive application (it stutters) is resolved.
For the rest it's not better or worse than lollipop, autonomy is worth. This version brings nothing convincing.
better and better than 5.0.
RAM is so good
i have a huge problem with gyroscope and proximity. Both not working.
Anyone here experiencing bugs with the AudioWizard? It resets its config upon reboot?
Quick question, since I have not installed it yet. I assume it combines all your internal storage (system and internal storage) like Cm13 does? To me, it's one of the more important features. Having the 2gb/16gb US model, that gives me a lot more space for apps.
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what CPU govenor does it use? Please tell me its not interactive (or that you get a decent selection at least).
If i use the standard 5.0.1 setup I go through around 4-6% of battery per hour, using tasker to switch off/on cpu cores and slow others down its down to 2-3% without a noticeable impact to performance.
Antutu benchmark result
63218 ! Isn't that great?
My experience with MM
Battery Life -
Since I am a new user, I cannot post screenshots here. Sorry about that. Overall battert life has been okay for now. Need to give the system about a week before making a judgement on it I guess.
Performance -
General performance has been quite smooth, but will need to test with heavier games to check RAM management. Normally, apps open almost instantly.
Bugs -
- Even after applying Super Saving mode (Settings > Power Management > Power Saver), I've found that window animations still exist, which was not the case with Lollipop.
- There appears to be a slightly reddish tint to the screen when Youtube video information overlay appears. Although the tint disappears when video goes fullscreen again.
As of now, these are the only issues I could find.
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Quick question, since I have not installed it yet. I assume it combines all your internal storage (system and internal storage) like Cm13 does? To me, it's one of the more important features. Having the 2gb/16gb US model, that gives me a lot more space for apps.
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Don't think so. It still has "system reserved" space according to the storage bit of settings menu.
VinzNguyen said:
better and better than 5.0.
RAM is so good
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How much free ram do you have when you clear all the apps?
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How much free ram do you have when you clear all the apps?
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usually 750-850mb, which is not so different than before. The thing is that used to drop to under 300 and slow down over time unless you manually cleared, but now it seems to release RAM by itself properly. I can now forget about RAM.
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How much free ram do you have when you clear all the apps?
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> 1GB
i have Facebook and messenger app <3
Had my first weird wakelock this morning. Phone has been mostly asleep on my desk the last 4 hours, but battery stats show it awake all the time and with weird wifi behaviour too (I didn't toggle off wifi, but there is no wifi connection here).
I'd say the Marshmallow update was long overdue. Although I am really enjoying the beta release.
Bugs:
Android Pay doesn't seem to be working anymore, I'm getting the dreadful "Google is unable to verify" message when trying to add cards.
The notification bar jerks open sometimes, though that's a common issue in Marshmallow.
The latest Poweramp app isn't working for me. Can't tell if that's the app's fault or the phone. It did work before switching to the beta release.
Notes: Battery life looks way better than before, with almost no drain on standby in my tests. Other than that there's not much to say though I COMPLETELY hate that they replaced the Clear All Apps button with the booster thing that shows you how much RAM was released. I'm having to get used to just not clearing the apps anymore (though w/ the 4GB RAM model that's not too bad).