So I bought a Galaxy Tab 4 7 inch a few weeks ago and love it (minus a few issues here and there of course) so of course the inner mod freak inside me (thanks to the XDA community) decided to achieve root access for my device.
So far I say this with mixed emotions I am pretty happy with the store bought stock firmware with root but the thing that bugs me is that I cannot remove any apps with Root Uninstaller for example I want to get rid of chrome. My problem is when I start up Root Uninstaller it achieves root permissions and loads up my list of apps. So of course since I have root permission and find Chrome in my list I click on it to try to uninstall but Root Uninstaller locks up. I'll be clear about this bit of info. Only the app locks up. My soft buttons still work and I can drop down my notification bar and I can also swap between apps. So after clicking a few times to see if it didn't register my click it comes up with a notice saying Root Uninstaller isn't responding and asks if I would like to wait or close the program. The notice will pop up 3 times before finally forcing the app to close. Now I will also be clear about this too it does not "force close" it just closes with no warning at all. I understand the easy answer might be to flash a debloated deodexed custom rom with stock apps stripped from the rom itself but I was hoping to avoid downloading a huge rom package as my only form of downloading is while I am at work. Please anyone who could drop any information on me would be much appreciated.
sherlockpwnz said:
So I bought a Galaxy Tab 4 7 inch a few weeks ago and love it (minus a few issues here and there of course) so of course the inner mod freak inside me (thanks to the XDA community) decided to achieve root access for my device.
So far I say this with mixed emotions I am pretty happy with the store bought stock firmware with root but the thing that bugs me is that I cannot remove any apps with Root Uninstaller for example I want to get rid of chrome. My problem is when I start up Root Uninstaller it achieves root permissions and loads up my list of apps. So of course since I have root permission and find Chrome in my list I click on it to try to uninstall but Root Uninstaller locks up. I'll be clear about this bit of info. Only the app locks up. My soft buttons still work and I can drop down my notification bar and I can also swap between apps. So after clicking a few times to see if it didn't register my click it comes up with a notice saying Root Uninstaller isn't responding and asks if I would like to wait or close the program. The notice will pop up 3 times before finally forcing the app to close. Now I will also be clear about this too it does not "force close" it just closes with no warning at all. I understand the easy answer might be to flash a debloated deodexed custom rom with stock apps stripped from the rom itself but I was hoping to avoid downloading a huge rom package as my only form of downloading is while I am at work. Please anyone who could drop any information on me would be much appreciated.
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Titanium Backup can uninstall system apps, it's what I used to debloat when my devices didn't have any custom roms available yet
Wow I feel like a dummy I didn't even think about that haha. I use titanium backup too and didn't even know lol. Just to be safe I backed it up and uninstalled it. Thank you for the help in such a speedy fashion!
Hi,
I am very new to Systemless root and it seems littlebit confusing for me.
I have few problems. I am using Magisk Systemless ROOT on my 1+5 with Android 7.1.1
I already know that because of non-editable /system i can't delete or upgrade system apps. But my bigger problem is for example with F***dom app. I know that warez is not supported here so I am asking only for educational purposes (or whatever). F***dom not working at all. My pay card still showing (Fallout Shelter, Fruit Ninja, etc.). Even L***y Pat***r not work well. I am still getting errors when trying to patch Fallout or any other apps. One of the least problem is with busybox. Why I cant install busybox to /system/bin but to /system/xbin yes?
Is there any way how to make system root work like nornal root? I really want use my old apps. Not just Freedom, but for example Titanium Backup not working too.
Titanium Backup definitely works with systemless root. When you go into the Magisk Manager app does it actually show that you are rooted? When you click on the Safety Net check in Magisk Manager what message do you get?
I am using Magisk systemless root and it works.
So you're probably not rooted at all. And I did not even had to install busybox either.
jhs39 said:
Titanium Backup definitely works with systemless root. When you go into the Magisk Manager app does it actually show that you are rooted? When you click on the Safety Net check in Magisk Manager what message do you get?
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I am rooted. Safety Net is ok when Hide Root setting is selected in Magisk. Apps normally get root access but as I said some of them not work properly. Busybox throw error when installing to /system/bin
Titanium Backup not recover system apps or data.
And what about freedom?
There's actually a dedicated support thread on XDA for Magisk. Since your issue seems to be very Magisk specific rather than a OP5 issue you would probably have more success posting your question there.
Just a reminder to all. No mentions of lucky patcher or freedom are allowed in the forums as they are warez/malware apps.
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Freedom APK v2.0.8 is an Android application which will give you a chance to open the top notch highlights of prevalent recreations free of cost.
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That app is also banned on xda as are all Warez apps.
I highly recommend you delete this post and go somewhere else before more aggressive devs start waking up
XDA's tag line is "XDA Developers was founded by developers, for developers. " and you come in here waving your middle finger around saying developers' time and energy is worthless and your deserve it all for fee, and your entitled ass comes here asking for more help exploiting devs.
Help specific to LP, Freedom, and all other exploitive apps is forbidden here. #GoAway
And all that aside, your question has been asked 1000x by legit users. Spending even 10-15 seconds researching the problem would yield a result. #LMGTFY
What apps do you guys use to block ads and still get OTA updates?
I just got a Mi A1 and I intend to root it and install xposed, but with the OTA updates in mind.
If you guys have any suggestions they will be very much appretiated.
def.man said:
What apps do you guys use to block ads and still get OTA updates?
I just got a Mi A1 and I intend to root it and install xposed, but with the OTA updates in mind.
If you guys have any suggestions they will be very much appretiated.
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If you're talking about ads in browser just use firefox and install adblock plus in addons.
In youtube install youtube adaway you can search it here
In apps i don't know ?
Magisk systemless hosts + adaway = system wide ad blocking. Only very few apps are showing ads (those are probably using their own ads instead of standard ad servers).
For youtube I use ogyoutube with microg.
Without modifying the system you can still use the open source project http://blokada.org
I use block this! It creates a VPN which blocks ad dns hosts.
majamee said:
Without modifying the system you can still use the open source project http://blokada.org
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This is a good one. It blocked from the 9gag app and in chrome aswell. The only anoying thing is the "key" notification it leaves on. Anyway to hide it?
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Magisk systemless hosts + adaway = system wide ad blocking. Only very few apps are showing ads (those are probably using their own ads instead of standard ad servers).
For youtube I use ogyoutube with microg.
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I used to have Adaway in my old phone, but I read that it messes with the system host files and thus I would not be able to take OTA updates. Does Magisk have its own Adaway that is different somehow?
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I used to have Adaway in my old phone, but I read that it messes with the system host files and thus I would not be able to take OTA updates. Does Magisk have its own Adaway that is different somehow?
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I've read it as well (only one guy who mentioned it btw.), but to be honest I do not believe it. I am using the latest Adaway version which has enabled "systemless mode" by default and it didn't modify my system hosts file. But I must admit that I didn't receive any OTA yet and had to always flash full ROM to update my system, so can't guarantee it
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I've read it as well (only one guy who mentioned it btw.), but to be honest I do not believe it. I am using the latest Adaway version which has enabled "systemless mode" by default and it didn't modify my system hosts file. But I must admit that I didn't receive any OTA yet and had to always flash full ROM to update my system, so can't guarantee it
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Do you have the december update?
def.man said:
Do you have the december update?
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Yes, I flash full ROM via fastboot each month (did the same with my old Nexus 5X, so I'm used to it).
Magisk has a systemless adblock module called "Unified Hosts Adblock".
Don't block adverts. Ya, I may sound like a noob & jerk but that's the only way everyone of us get to use free contents. The developer & content creator won't be giving away stuffs for free if they don't earn. Support the Developers & content creator.
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Don't block adverts. Ya, I may sound like a noob & jerk but that's the only way everyone of us get to use free contents. The developer & content creator won't be giving away stuffs for free if they don't earn. Support the Developers & content creator.
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I support devs directly, I either purchase a full version or donate to them. If there is only "free" app filled with ads, I see no reason to not to block them. As soon as content creators start serving unobtrusive ads (web, youtube, ..) I'll stop blocking them. Until then...adaway is and will be my second installed app (the first one is Titanium backup pro ). Btw. there wasn't a single ad during past 20 years which I would be interested in, if I clicked on one, it was by mistake.
I use minminguard (xposed module). to update, simply flash full stock rom (keep user data in mi flash tool) then update ota. Unlock bootloader again, boot TWRP and flash magisk.
i had troubles updating to november patch due to adaway. i installed the latest adaway there is, it even said systemless hosts in option.. yet it did modify my hosts file directly - i checked this after i unistalled adaway + magisk
not sure if i did something wrong on my end, just saying that it didnt work for me systemless.. would like to hear if someone managed to get it to work tho
im now using unified adblock from magisk, works okayish
DeV91 said:
i had troubles updating to november patch due to adaway. i installed the latest adaway there is, it even said systemless hosts in option.. yet it did modify my hosts file directly - i checked this after i unistalled adaway + magisk
not sure if i did something wrong on my end, just saying that it didnt work for me systemless.. would like to hear if someone managed to get it to work tho
im now using unified adblock from magisk, works okayish
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Not sure what went wrong on your end, but modifying system data would lead to fail of Safetynet check. I am running Magisk + systemless hosts + Adaway and Safetynet passes the check, so I assume that nothing has been written to the system. I will confirm once I actually receive an OTA, so far fastboot images were out earlier than mine OTA
Are you someone who just got their Fire TV rooted and don't know exactly what you can do with it being rooted? Or maybe you haven't rooted yet because you are unsure of what you can do with it rooted? Well hopefully i can shed some light on this with a little guide on things to do, along with some tips and tricks.
First let me get started by saying never forget to make a backup of your Fire TV via TWRP before making changes or tweaks. This is not to freak you out or disparage its just good practice ii have learned in rooting devices. I will cover TWRP later.
One of the best things to come along in the rooting world of android is Xposed installer. In short Xposed is a framework apk that allows users to modify/ customize their devices. This is not done by Xposed Installer per say but the modules that you download with in Xposed installer. So i will show how to install it, how to use and modules that will be beneficial use for Fire TV fyi mouse is need to navigate Xposed.
Xposed installation
1. We need to download the following BusyBox a program that most rooted apps are dependent on here Xposed Installer v3.1.5 here along with Xposed Framework x89 sdk22 arm64 here
2. Install BusyBox however you install side loaded apks. Open BusyBox and click the install button on bottom right. On SU prompt screen grant root access. As you should for root apps you install.
3. Install Xposed Installer, there is no need to open after install because without Xposed Framework installed it doesnt work.
4 Place the Xposed v89 zip onto Fire TV internal or external storage is your choice just remember where so you can point TWRP to it.
5 Reboot into TWRP recovery, choose install, point TWRP to the Xposed zip and on right side of options choose install zip. Let TWRP run its script when it says complete simply reboot and voila Xposed is installed. NOTE it is NORMAL for the first boot to take 10 min after Xposed is installed.
Xposed Tutorial and Modules
Open Xposed installer on be careful screen prompt click box to don't show again and ok. The 3 line icon on top left is menu button. Module option is where you can see and activate modules you install. Download option is where we search for and install modules. After you download a module Fire TV will prompt you to install. Note modules wont work until activated and a reboot.
Modules i find beneficial and know are SAFE are the followingBoot Manager- this allows for you to choose what apps start on boot.
RootCloak- this is designed to hide root app detection. Im assuming it still will hide root but could be wrong worth shot right
Xposed Edge- this is the FUN one that allows a fair share customs tweaks. My fav is remapping of remote buttons ie home button goes to alternative launcher, double tap home opens netflix. Which is great for 3rd party remotes that have a lot of buttons. NOTE There is a pro version as well Note- whenever you make changes in edge you may have to reboot for changes to effect.
DISCLAIMER be careful some modules may cause problems like bootloop and worse so research before you install modules to see if they are compatible
Other Apps
These are apps recommended or useful for rooted devices and for Fire TV useADBLink-allows you connect PC t to Fire TV via adb can install apks, push/pull files, run adb shell.
Easy Fire Tools- Android app that connects to Fire TV via adb can install apps from your android device onto Fire TV, transfer files and other features.
Root Explorer- these apps allow you to manage files but also a way to install side loaded apps, find one that is root friendly so you can access system folders if ever needed.
AdBlocker- we all know why we want one for all my rooted phones always been partial to adaway.
Alternative Home Launcher- who does like Fire TV launcher, really Karen of course you would!
TV App Repo and APK Editor- For those who do use alternative launcher i mention these because TV App Repo allows you to make bookmarks into apks. APK Editor to change the icon and name of TVApp Repo apks because the names and icons are generic.
TWRP
Finally the benefits and how to use TWRP. This allows users to make a backup images of device and ability to restore it when **** goes wrong. You can also do a factory reset.
Backup- after you choose backup from main screen choose select storage and choose storage then click swipe to backup. These can take a while to do seemed like 20 mins or so. Whatever storage you chose will be the default storage until you change it. Note- I have a backup image and its size is 4.5gb so id recommend you need some sort of external storage for these. If there is not enough space backup can not be performed.
Restore- performed same way as backup.
Factory Reset- Just wanted to mention don't forget if you do this and have a backup image on Fire TV internal storage you will lose it.
Hope this helps out
@g422
Thanks for the write up!!!
To be honest, the benefits of rooting appear to be somewhat underwhelming, at least, for the Fire TV. Not a single killer feature/application ...
I do know that it is more convenient to have root than not, but appears to be in pretty subtle ways.
My main use is between SmartYouTubeTV, and Netflix. If I fumble through the Amazon launcher, I am there, and life is good!
Am I missing something?
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Am I missing something?
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Yes, you didn't read the OP He gives many examples of use for root, if those aren't valuable to you, then root isn't for you.
ldeveraux said:
Yes, you didn't read the OP He gives many examples of use for root, if those aren't valuable to you, then root isn't for you.
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Hmm, just for the record, pretty much every tablet or phone (except a couple of real cheap deals) I have in my household are rooted! So I do see good value in root on those devices.
It's just that I struggle with root utility on Fire TV devices. As in - "why bother?"
I see that the OP likes Xposed Edge for button remapping, so if that's your cup of tea, that's a killer feature to get root for. I myself religiously correct Chrome look on tablets using Xposed/App Settings (link), which very few others seem to care about. But I want to see more of these killer features for Fire TV! Suggestions?
Btw, I am not being adversarial or critical, just very curious. Which itch are people scratching with root on Fire TV???
bibikalka said:
Hmm, just for the record, pretty much every tablet or phone (except a couple of real cheap deals) I have in my household are rooted! So I do see good value in root on those devices.
It's just that I struggle with root utility on Fire TV devices. As in - "why bother?"
I see that the OP likes Xposed Edge for button remapping, so if that's your cup of tea, that's a killer feature to get root for. I myself religiously correct Chrome look on tablets using Xposed/App Settings (link), which very few others seem to care about. But I want to see more of these killer features for Fire TV! Suggestions?
Btw, I am not being adversarial or critical, just very curious. Which itch are people scratching with root on Fire TV???
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I sort of see your point, but I think the root version of Mouse Toggle works, while the non-root doesn't. At least that's been my experience. Also, can you block updates without root?
I took no offense to your comments bibikalka. I am inclined to agree that there is a limit of what to do with rooted fire tv especially compared to a phone or tablet. I started this thread to give back to xda who has kept my multiple devices over years rooted. Thread was also done in hopes of getting ideas to do and/or sharing of apps that can be helpful especially now that rooting is allowed for the general masses just not those who were able to jump on board early.
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I sort of see your point, but I think the root version of Mouse Toggle works, while the non-root doesn't. At least that's been my experience. Also, can you block updates without root?
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I used mouse toggle without rooted fire tv until i got air mouse remote. Yes you can block updates. If im not mistaken rbox prerooted roms block updates, go to check for system updates and should be stuck on checking for updates. If not go here.
#1 reason I root a fire TV box is so I can use large NTFS drives on the USB port.
Can someone point to me how to fix sd card write permissions. I tried xiinternalsd for xposed but when i open it goes to amazon home screen
g422 said:
I used mouse toggle without rooted fire tv until i got air mouse remote. Yes you can block updates. If im not mistaken rbox prerooted roms block updates, go to check for system updates and should be stuck on checking for updates. If not go here.
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Right, so blocking updates only when rooted.
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Right, so blocking updates only when rooted.
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yeah i just re read what ya posted i see what ya meant
Imho top reasons for it are Xposed Edge Pro, ad blocking via AdAway (if you use the browser) and finally, the updates issue. While unlikely, it's not impossible for Amazon to get crackin and stop the use of certain third-party apps (NIMH is a giveaway)
Edit: forgot one important one, "debloating" the OS, whether by blocking the startup or disabling packages you don't want/need to give more cpu and memory to apps you do
Without root access, it's Amazon's device; with root access, it's now your device.
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I used mouse toggle without rooted fire tv until i got air mouse remote. Yes you can block updates. If im not mistaken rbox prerooted roms block updates, go to check for system updates and should be stuck on checking for updates. If not go here.
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Right, so blocking updates only when rooted.
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yeah i just re read what ya posted i see what ya meant
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For a while, updates could be blocked without root, but Amazon fixed that hole:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/fire-tv/general/disable-ota-fire-stick-t3667978
But! You want to block updates so you don't lose root, so it's a bit circular. If you don't have root, you don't care, and just update as per Amazon otas. Btw, I do have updates blocked on my fire sticks
Anyway, please keep the conversation going! We should develop a good set of must have features which are only available via root.
The main reason I root now is to debloat. Go as barebones as possible in order to improve performance. I kill all possible services that are absolutely unnecessary. I've removed Amazons GUI and use Appstarter. I just like a clean fast experience.
Thanks for this but u all do know u can connect to a PC wirelessly via adb without root. It's the only way I have ever added apps to my stick. Find your sticks individual ip. Open terminal on a pc, adb connect ipaddress. Then adb devices, a prompt will pop like on your phone asking to allow device or not. Click always or yes whatever. Then u do adb install draganddropwhateverapphere. Loads up in seconds depending on apk size. U can even use your phone if u have the adb platform tools magisk module installed on your phone. I install apps to my stick from my OnePlus 6t
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Thanks for this but u all do know u can connect to a PC wirelessly via adb without root. It's the only way I have ever added apps to my stick. Find your sticks individual ip. Open terminal on a pc, adb connect ipaddress. Then adb devices, a prompt will pop like on your phone asking to allow device or not. Click always or yes whatever. Then u do adb install draganddropwhateverapphere. Loads up in seconds depending on apk size. U can even use your phone if u have the adb platform tools magisk module installed on your phone. I install apps to my stick from my OnePlus 6t
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Ummm, or you know just use the Apps2Fire app lol. No magisk module or root needed. You're welcome.
JUSTINMARMER said:
Ummm, or you know just use the Apps2Fire app lol. No magisk module or root needed. You're welcome.
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I am saying I never need root or anything to use adb and install apps wirelessly. I have done this for the past year with NO ROOT. Don't need it for sideloading apps. Adb connect ipaddress, then adb install dragdropapp from PC into terminal. No root or magisk needed. I always have a rooted phone and that's where the magisk module comes in. On a PC u can load them to a stick out of the box.
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I am saying I never need root or anything to use adb and install apps wirelessly. I have done this for the past year with NO ROOT. Don't need it for sideloading apps. Adb connect ipaddress, then adb install dragdropapp from PC into terminal. No root or magisk needed. I always have a rooted phone and that's where the magisk module comes in. On a PC u can load them to a stick out of the box.
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Yep, that's exactly what you said before. Not sure why you are repeating it.
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Yep, that's exactly what you said before. Not sure why you are repeating it.
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Cuz u aren't understanding. If u read your comments, then mine, you would see it seems u think I'm saying one would have to have root to use adb install. U do not.
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Cuz u aren't understanding. If u read your comments, then mine, you would see it seems u think I'm saying one would have to have root to use adb install. U do not.
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That is 100% incorrect. I see now you have a reading comprehension disability. I can't imagine how hard that must be for you and I empathize.
Obviously root is needed for magisk modules. I suggested an app to help all those without root.
Bless your heart.