Hi. On phones like ZE551ML is possible to install a normal linux ? Since it uses a x86 atom cpu, and the bootloader (isnt it bios?) has been unlocked ?
Of course not along with android, no emulators, no android kernel and all that crap...
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Hi everyone.
Devs, please read this: http://www.xda-developers.com/developments/mozillas-boot-to-gecko-running-on-a-samsung-galaxy-sii/
Is it possible for X8?
It looks like a nice OS, and i think that maybe it would be possible to make a custom bootloader that'll bypass android and directly boot into Boot-to-gecko. That would be waaay to cool
I haven't looked at the Boot to Gecko source (not even sure if Mozilla open sourced it yet), but chances are that this is meant for ARMv7 / TEGRA series CPUs
Since it's based on the underpinnings of Android I don't think that a change of the boot loader is really necessary, but it might require some efforts to port it to the ARMv6 series (unless Mozilla doesn't use ARMv7 specific code).
EDIT: On a second thought ... with this we're most likely back to old problem of DRIVERS for the X8.
B.Jay said:
I haven't looked at the Boot to Gecko source (not even sure if Mozilla open sourced it yet), but chances are that this is meant for ARMv7 / TEGRA series CPUs
Since it's based on the underpinnings of Android I don't think that a change of the boot loader is really necessary, but it might require some efforts to port it to the ARMv6 series (unless Mozilla doesn't use ARMv7 specific code).
EDIT: On a second thought ... with this we're most likely back to old problem of DRIVERS for the X8.
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Yeah, you're right here, we just have to cross our fingers that Mozilla will use ARMv6 Compatible code.
About the drivers. Well, some of us, with older x8's have unlocked bootloader, so it shouldn't really be a problem. Plus, we have really good devs. Problems would be for those persons that have 11W29 + Phones
THIS IS NOT A ARM DEVICE ! This is x86. Porting CM to this device would be an incredibly complex task as alot of CM code is ARM dependent. You are going about this the wrong way , these are two completely unrelated CPU architectures , you need to look at the Android X86 projects that are out there which I will link too at the end of the post.
ARM is vastly different from x86 and you can't run code designed for one on the other.
NO ROM for ARM will work on this , meaning no CM , no AOKP , no MiUi , and not even AOSP etc.
You need to work with the Android x86 sources provided by either Intel or the community x86 port.
Links :
http://www.android-x86.org
https://01.org/projects/android-intel-architecture
http://androvm.org/blog/
All these projects are FORKS of android highly modified to work on x86 !
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THIS IS NOT A ARM DEVICE ! This is x86. Porting CM to this device would be an incredibly complex task as alot of CM code is ARM dependent. You are going about this the wrong way , these are two completely unrelated CPU architectures , you need to look at the Android X86 projects that are out there which I will link too at the end of the post.
ARM is vastly different from x86 and you can't run code designed for one on the other.
NO ROM for ARM will work on this , meaning no CM , no AOKP , no MiUi , and not even AOSP etc.
You need to work with the Android x86 sources provided by either Intel or the community x86 port.
Links :
http://www.android-x86.org
https://01.org/projects/android-intel-architecture
http://androvm.org/blog/
All these projects are FORKS of android highly modified to work on x86 !
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What about use a base of stock roms and make the things work??? I know Cm its for armv, but all its adaptable,
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as for MIUI (there already is a MIUI port on the razr i, not complet I think, but it exist). MIUI is mostly a framework mod.. this is platerform independant AFAIK.
I don't think CM & Cie are so dependant of the SoC architecture. There's lot of différences between some ARM SoC .. maybe more than you can imagine. If CM can be adapt to so many device with so many ARM SoC witch a so différent, why not for a x86 Soc ?
I think you're a little bit pessimist here...
I didn't say it's impossible but it's more complex then a normal port for an ARM device. The issue is it requires more knowledge on the issue and will eat far more time. A CM port to x86 is a very unlikely goal for a single dev , and I'm saying this because a few months ago I discussed this issue with the people behind Android x86.
So a talented DEV will be able to achieve this but it will take time and a bigger struggle , that's why to start of developing for this device it would be more reasonable to look at Android code already ported to x86.
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THIS IS NOT A ARM DEVICE ! This is x86. Porting CM to this device would be an incredibly complex task as alot of CM code is ARM dependent. You are going about this the wrong way , these are two completely unrelated CPU architectures , you need to look at the Android X86 projects that are out there which I will link too at the end of the post.
ARM is vastly different from x86 and you can't run code designed for one on the other.
NO ROM for ARM will work on this , meaning no CM , no AOKP , no MiUi , and not even AOSP etc.
You need to work with the Android x86 sources provided by either Intel or the community x86 port.
Links :
http://www.android-x86.org
https://01.org/projects/android-intel-architecture
http://androvm.org/blog/
All these projects are FORKS of android highly modified to work on x86 !
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Sure there is some ARM dependent code in the repos but most of android doesn't really depend on the arch (like apps using the sdk dont need to be recompiled for working on the I, see play store apps). I have worked with o1 and android-x86 and there isn't really that much change from CM and android-x86, just some extra optimizations for x86 which can be added in later.
There are plenty of device on where even custom rom seems to be impossible. mostly because of a locked bootloader.
Look at the Motorola Defy. At the beginning, the development of a custom rom like CM was pretty impossible.... but they did it. They did it so far that the Defy became one of must used device with Cyanogenmod. And you now the most astonishing? It's thanks to only 2 devs.
I think bypassing a locked bootloader like the Moto one is far more tricky than adapting a CM ROM to a x86 SoC (while the device is natively unlocked).
AFAIK, android-x86 project is not so close to the Android we have on our phone.
When you develop a custom rom you can either take the AOSP source and try to put it on your phone : the tricky way. Mainly when you don't have access to the source of the drivers (ARM or x86 .. same fight)
Or you can take the official rom and mod it to reach the AOSP/CM/MUI/etc level. And I think on most device it's the way to go (unless the manufacturer release all the source code of the device.... something that never appends).
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THIS IS NOT A ARM DEVICE ! This is x86. Porting CM to this device would be an incredibly complex task as alot of CM code is ARM dependent. You are going about this the wrong way , these are two completely unrelated CPU architectures , you need to look at the Android X86 projects that are out there which I will link too at the end of the post.
ARM is vastly different from x86 and you can't run code designed for one on the other.
NO ROM for ARM will work on this , meaning no CM , no AOKP , no MiUi , and not even AOSP etc.
You need to work with the Android x86 sources provided by either Intel or the community x86 port.
Links :
http://www.android-x86.org
https://01.org/projects/android-intel-architecture
http://androvm.org/blog/
All these projects are FORKS of android highly modified to work on x86 !
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You really know what you are talking about? As others already mentioned above CM is in most a framework - porting android to x86 seems to be not such a big gap as motorola did it already and for sure you can run android on your pc - do you own an arm pc (in this case i think an rasperry pi...). The toolchain remains the same so why you make such a story out of it? Are you a razr i owner or do you just want to frighten all razr i devs and owners awaiting a CM port??
ARM architecture is different in some points but most of the work will do the compiler and to be honest i think there will be some more x86 phones in the future, intel never developed it for one or two phones....
So what is your intention with this topic??
kind regards.
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So what is your intention with this topic??
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That's what I'm wondering. Any dev that's taking on this task obviously knows it's going to take a bit of extra work. It would have been different had the OP offered some help and advice, but he just posted the obvious while making it seem like a bigger deal than it is (at least I'm guessing it's not as big a deal as he makes it seem, considering the other posts in this thread). Nothing but fear mongering and pessimism at this point. Sure, we will have to wait a bit for the devs to figure things out, but I know enough of them picked up this phone that something will eventually come. Plus, there seems to be a bit of dev interest in the Intel Yolo as well.
I don't know much about porting or developing and getting cm to run with all the necesary source and drivers is probably not easy but I do know that one of the basic options when running the build/make command for AOSP and CM is an x86 build for emulation. So basic x86 infrastructure exists does that ensure compatibility with this phone maybe not but it might help and certainly it would still require SOC and device optimization drivers but its probably the better place to start then tackling trying to port ARM based code and drivers.
However in the meantime my thinking is maybe a CM style rom could be achieved by first stripping down the rom making it "blurless" and then porting CM features especially since the latest Moto ROM's are comparatively closer to stock then sense or touchwiz. Of course I don't have the phone yet its in England waiting to be brought to me.
Im using Infocus M530 [MT6595] i saw lots of that for MT65xx but only few is worked on MT6595. There is no specific guides for MT6595 for development etc and Mtkdroid,SP flash tool both also not work on my device. Only found "How To Root".Please Respective MTK devs do anything for MT6595 also n help others..
Thank You !
Sorry for my RIP english.
Hello Sahil Sir,
Lenovo vibe x2 is based on same procesor mt6595 and they just rolled out Android L update for their device, is it possible to port that rom on infocus m530 its also shares the same specs.
if it is possible kindly guide me i'll be highly thankfull for ur support.
snandan.gupta said:
Hello Sahil Sir,
Lenovo vibe x2 is based on same procesor mt6595 and they just rolled out Android L update for their device, is it possible to port that rom on infocus m530 its also shares the same specs.
if it is possible kindly guide me i'll be highly thankfull for ur support.
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Hi,
Lenovo Vibe X2 is having same specifications as you said. I think it is possible to port that rom in Infocus M530 but, before that I want to say that the lenovo X2's L update is having some serious bugs. Please check it. And one more thing, in order to port you need custom recovery. Did ported any custom recovery into your M530. If yes, please let me know. Because I tried lot times & failed to port CWM & as well as TWRP.
No update for our device yet?
No custom rom,No recovery..... Is infocus m530 support dead?
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No custom rom,No recovery..... Is infocus m530 support dead?
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Nope. Since it is rooted you can directly write to the raw partitions for "flashing" a rom, thus no need for a recovery. But it is too dangerous. One tiny error would brick the device.
Jamesits said:
Nope. Since it is rooted you can directly write to the raw partitions for "flashing" a rom, thus no need for a recovery. But it is too dangerous. One tiny error would brick the device.
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so better to buy a new phone than waiting for a os update...
I have a zopo zp999 (with a shattered screen so I'm back on ol' faithful - Galaxy Note 2 n7100)
The whole MT6595 I think suffered from being relatively closed source. Even though there was an ubuntu version of the mi3 I think and its source code released, other manufacturers didn't come to the party - like zopo.
Manufacturers are really their own worst enemy for slitting their own throats by being so restrictive with source.
It also might be partly associated with the MT6595 containing a PowerVR GPU.
Non-Mali (ARM) gpus tend to be more closed with their drivers too.
Whereas ARM have been releasing the drivers for their mali gpus for years now.
the MT6595 was the targeted at being a super-mid SoC. The top of its time. I think the last 32-bit CPU, and once the 64-bit MT697x cortex A57 & A53 based product well everyone lost interest really.
It's a good modem. They have a pretty good engineering mode - eg ability to choose LTE/HSPA frequencies.
beyond that... eh...
I need to install an Android version that uses Dalvik/Java and not ART, any way this can be done? And/or "dual boot" your phone?
No. You can use an Android emulator on your PC, on the other hand. Buying an older phone like the G2 would make more sense to me.
Maybe, but dunno if the device drivers or chipset would support anything older. Who knows, you might be able to compile a CyanogenMod build based on KitKat or something.
As mentioned above, use an emulator or dual boot Android on PC. Check out the Android x86 project and the official Android emulator.
Hello guys,
this is my first post. Since today I´m a proud owner of a Galaxy Tab A (SM-T510 with 64 GB ROM and 3GB RAM, newest stock android build T510XXU2ASK5, never connected to internet yet).
I want to install Nethunter OS or Kali Linux (if possible) on this and read many hours in the internet but there are some questions:
Has anyone flashed the SM-T510 with Nethunter OS? (if this isn´t possible, a way to just use the kali apps is fine too but not my first choice)
Is it possible to flash directly to the ROM instead to a SD Card?
Which type of processor has the tablet? I think it is amd64 not arm, right? Maybe I could try to flash a Nethunter Image for Galaxy Tab S4 but I´m sure this doesn´t work cause the processor is not exact the same... (https://www.offensive-security.com/kali-linux-nethunter-download/)
I found this thread about Kali Linux installation but I would find a direct installation better https://forum.xda-developers.com/hardware-hacking/hardware/devices-kali-linux-installation-t3414523 (If I can´t install directly, can I use this guide for my device after I rooted it?)
A few years ago I flashed Android on a SD-Card for my HTC Kaiser 130 (still working fine), so I have a little experience about flashing and so on but flashing this tablet looks a little bit more difficult to me, so I want as much information as possible cause I have only one try (in the baddest scenario)
I hope you can help me.
Thanks for reading! (I´m from germany, so I´m sorry for my bad english)
Edit: I have found UserLAnd and will try it now, if someone has a better suggestion, feel free to post it
Where'd you get the idea that this was an AMD64 tablet? All Samsung Galaxy Tab As are ARM, The T510 has an Exynos 7904 or 7885 SoC. And I've never heard of anyone porting a Linux distro to one.
lewmur said:
Where'd you get the idea that this was an AMD64 tablet? All Samsung Galaxy Tab As are ARM, The T510 has an Exynos 7904 or 7885 SoC. And I've never heard of anyone porting a Linux distro to one.
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Thanks for your answer lewmur, I just read it is a 64bit proc and thought it is amd64, my last tablet is some years old and I just thinked the technical development is quicker... ^^
Hmm... sounds like bad news, I just googled yesterday and it is a Exynos 7904, yes you´re right. That means it is closed source, damn.
In this thread (https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-m30/help/hope-custom-rom-development-m30-exynos-t3910256) I found someone who maybe has kernel source, I will write him. Maybe where is a way to build a Nethunter image by myself. I have tested UserLAnd on the tab and I don´t really like it, it´s not smooth.
On monday I will go to the shop where I buyed the tab and try to give it back, maybe they have goodwill, then I will buy online a nexus tablet, looks much more easier.
Thank you anyway, maybe someone has some more good tipps for me.
I have downloaded this
nethunter-2021.3-generic-armhf-kalifs-full.zip
and flashed it with TWRP on my Rooted Device and it works on SM-T510 Android 11 StockROM