I plan to get my OP5 today, and will update it before I root it, but I'm curious about future updates. Is my understanding correct that the OTA will fail, and the only way to upgrade is by waiting for the full stock ROMs to be posted here to flash in TWRP? From the previous phones, how long of a delay is there typically between an OTA and when we can flash it via TWRP? Does the full ROM that you flash also include the modem/radio files, or does that need to be flashed separately?
If you are stock and not rooted: updates come OTA as incremental updates. Small filesizes.
If you are stock and rooted: updates come OTA as FULL zips. Full ROM size. 4.5.2 for me was around 1.6GB in size.
Both will come through the official OTA mechanism. When the device reboots and installs, it runs on TWRP automatically without any manual user intervention.
tl;dr: Will still be OTA, but bigger filesizes. You will have to re-root (re flash SuperSU, Magisk, whatever)...
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If you are stock and not rooted: updates come OTA as incremental updates. Small filesizes.
If you are stock and rooted: updates come OTA as FULL zips. Full ROM size. 4.5.2 for me was around 1.6GB in size.
Both will come through the official OTA mechanism. When the device reboots and installs, it runs on TWRP automatically without any manual user intervention.
tl;dr: Will still be OTA, but bigger filesizes. You will have to re-root (re flash SuperSU, Magisk, whatever)...
I'm stock and rooted, the OTA came as a 36MB update.
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I just rooted and wanted to update with OTA to 4.5.2, it rebooted into twrp and did something for a second and went back to the normal menu. I then rebooted and it told me that the update did not apply. I just flashed the 1.4 GB OTA and rooted over again, for the next update, do i have to wipe before i install the new OTA manually or can i just flash the never big version over without having to wipe it?
Do I have to flash TWRP for the OTAs to work once rooted? Or will they still install with stock recovery?
I rooted with "fastboot boot TWRP.img" instead of actually flashing TWRP to the system...
1. make backup
2. save it on your computer
3. flash latest TWRP - reset back to recovery
4. flash OOS 4.5.2 Full Rom Zip and SuperSU or Magisk
5. Wipe Dalvik & Cache
6. make new backup if everything works fine, so you have it just in case
geoff5093 said:
I plan to get my OP5 today, and will update it before I root it, but I'm curious about future updates. Is my understanding correct that the OTA will fail, and the only way to upgrade is by waiting for the full stock ROMs to be posted here to flash in TWRP? From the previous phones, how long of a delay is there typically between an OTA and when we can flash it via TWRP? Does the full ROM that you flash also include the modem/radio files, or does that need to be flashed separately?
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If you are rooted, the phone automatically chooses to download the full OTA zip.
I want to root the phone and unlock bootloader. But firstly, i want to make backup all the settings/applications etc. How can i do that? I am full stock now
You can try Helium backup by clockworkmod. It is supposed to be basically a more friendly interface to `adb backup`.
For the record I couldn't get it to restore properly when I rooted my Shield TV, but I was probably doing something wrong.
I plan on rooting about to do it now. When another OTA update come along from above says I will get the full download but it will not erase any data or setting, right? Will be just full update but all will be intact?
parcou said:
I plan on rooting about to do it now. When another OTA update come along from above says I will get the full download but it will not erase any data or setting, right? Will be just full update but all will be intact?
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As part of rooting, you will need to unlock your bootloader, which will wipe all data on the device. This is a one time thing.
After that, when you get OTAs, your data, apps, etc., will be intact, but it will overwrite several system partitions (that's why it's the larger download). So you will need to reinstall TWRP or whatever recovery, and reflash your root zip every time an OTA comes along.
If you have the space, it doesn't hurt to make a TWRP backup before installing the OTA.
Hope that all makes sense!
Hi, I have a european S8+ fully rooted and with TWRP.
Everything's working great so far but I read somewhere that I won't receive further OTA updates.
Can I install them manually with TWRP?
If yes, 3 questions:
1. Where can I get them?
2. Do I need every single update or are the newest update always containing the older updates as well?
3. Do I lose root or TWRP after installing an update?
I've rooted with Magisk by the way.
Typically if you're rooted and modified the system partition (BusyBox or twrp or whatever) the update will not install in stock recovery. Usually you have to unroot reinstall stock recovery and flash ota. There's toolkits out that can do that. Or you can just find an awesome rom like a rooted debloated rom thats just recently updated and just flash that. Or you can what till somebody snags the ota update location then posts that.
If I'm on stock oos with twrp & rooted with magisk, & let's say I decide to download & install a incremental update, so if I boot into twrp & flash the magisk Uninstaller then flash my incremental update, then REflash the magisk zip & reboot will that work for me to just install the incremental update? I rather update via incremental, it's faster & I'm hoping that the system apps I deleted won't get reinstalled if I update via incremental, I'm not sure yet though, I've never updated via incremental cause Iv only used custom rom never had stock from b4?Thanks
Hi, I've rooted my P SMART with Magisk (bootloader unlocked, TWRP and so on...). After rooting, OTA updates were unavailable as expected. A few days ago, without any "hack" by my side, I got a notification about a new OTA update available.
It's a full update (2.37gb)... my question is: what will happen if I execute the update? It seems a complete reinstall of the OS, I think I'll lose my data... By the way, Magisk will be removed? Or, worse, Bootloader can be relocked?
So pie is already rolling out on some countries. Before it rolls out to my country, I want to know if the usual method of installing Magisk over ota will work to preserve root. I use magisk solely to enable camera2api for gcam and occasionally for some apps requiring root access. Usually when I receive a security patch for 8.1, I restore stock boot img then apply the update without restarting. After the update, I go to magisk and select install > install to inactive slot and reboot. Anyone tried this while installing pie?