Chees Folks,
i wanna start a project and hope for an exchange of knowledge. First of all i wanna introduce myself. Im Pat, 27 years old from Germany. I have an BMW 3 (E46) with a Pumpkin Android Headunit (famous RK3188). Tbh the head unit is really slow and i thought: "Why not build a whole new head unit by myself?". I'm experienced in electronics and maybe a little bit of programing.
I thought about the following parts to realize the Project:
As Mainboard the Pine64 Rock64 - Advantages: Full Android support, Based on the Raspberry Pi, 4GB RAM, a lot of modules are available like 7" Touchscreen, external soundcard, GPS module, FM module, WiFi module and i also found a nice module to emulate my Steering Wheel Keys without big effort to it.
The challenging part comes with the bluetooth module. With a little investigation i found out, that you need a special bluetooth module that comes with the profiles: HSP, HFP, AD2P and so on.... Now the big question! How can i find an app for android that works with the module and let me manage the connections, make phone calls, transfer contacts and play music from my mobilephone? I guess you know what kind of app i am talking about. The common Android HU like Eresin, Pumpkin, Xtron, JOYING have these bluetooth managing apps (see screenshot)
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I mean i could try to use one of these apps, but presumably it wont work cause of the different device. Maybe one of you can help and is interested in building a system that is usable for anyone.
Best regards!
You might take a look at this project.
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You might take a look at this project.
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Yes is saw this thread but unfortunately the creator didn't answer for about 3 Months and as i see the progress is really slow there. But sounds very interesting. Thanks for the hint
Actually, the PINE64 board is not really fast (Quad-Core A53 CPU, the usual PX5 head units have Octa-Cora A53). Considering all the effort you would have with getting something custom to a useable state, it's probably much easier and cheaper to try one of the new PX6 units for the E46 (with much faster A72 cores) first.
https://androidautoshop.com/bmw/386-2757-bmw-e46-3-series-9-touch.html#/26-map-europe
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Actually, the PINE64 board is not really fast (Quad-Core A53 CPU, the usual PX5 head units have Octa-Cora A53). Considering all the effort you would have with getting something custom to a useable state, it's probably much easier and cheaper to try one of the new PX6 units for the E46 (with much faster A72 cores) first.
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Im open for different boards in my configuration but i dont want a new Android Head Unit. I want to build it on my own which is more updatable in future than these common Units.
CLU91 said:
Yes is saw this thread but unfortunately the creator didn't answer for about 3 Months and as i see the progress is really slow there. But sounds very interesting. Thanks for the hint
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Unfortunately, I cannot post a link, but if you search for "hikey960-car gitlab" on Google, you will find details on the prototype of that project which may be of interest.
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Unfortunately, I cannot post a link, but if you search for "hikey960-car gitlab" on Google, you will find details on the prototype of that project which may be of interest.
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That one is from Adam Serbinski.
The link I referred to is from 96carboard aka ibdroid aka luciusfox aka doitright aka Mukesh (and a few other aliases) and continues here
I did not check and do not know if doitright is working on the first one too.
Edit: After further examination they all work on the same tree.
Edit2: After further examination I think that Adam Serbinsky is one of the many aliases doitright (96carboard) is using.
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Thanks for the resources! I ordered my Model B a month and a half ago and hopefully I will get it by December. I can't wait to start fiddling around with it!
I bought a rPI two weeks ago at europe, it seems to be an awesome toy! I hope to receive the new 512MB version.
Ordered mine from allied on friday. Hope to get it before Christmas
You guys are lucky, I ordered mine from RS electronics in mid July and it won't come until November 19-25 .
Thats my Hardware on this little Pi!!!!
Version A
Currently on Dualboot with: DarkElec(12.08)+Raspian(12.10) on Berryboot!!!
config:
arm/900 mhz
sdram/500 mhz
gpu/400 mhz
disable overscan/1
overvolting/2
Cooler: Boxedcooler from AMDx4 956
Temperature Sensor: direct on Chip,selfbuildet from my old Geforce 550ti Graphiccard!!!!
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Thats my Hardware on this little Pi!!!!
Version A
Currently on Dualboot with: DarkElec(12.08)+Raspian(12.10) on Berryboot!!!
config:
arm/900 mhz
sdram/500 mhz
gpu/400 mhz
disable overscan/1
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Cooler: Boxedcooler from AMDx4 956
Temperature Sensor: direct on Chip,selfbuildet from my old Geforce 550ti Graphiccard!!!!
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That is awesome! Now that's what I call pushing the hardware . Personally I think you should add a water cooling setup .
work in progress,pics come sooooon.
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work in progress,pics come sooooon.
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Awesome can't wait :good:! If there is any information from your research and experimenting you would like me to add to the original post let me know .
That is an awesome case mod! I was thinking of putting one of my pi's under water literally. Maybe fish tank style with mineral water, i'll post pics if I go that route, maybe a fish bowl as a tank would be ridiculous for such a tiny pcb.
U can put in oil in an aquarium ive seen it with a normal pc.
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I have a B6 VW Passat and am based in the UK. I am looking for an Android head unit and the more I look, the less I am sure which to get!
I want a unit to these criteria:
Must look as OEM as possible for VW
Must have physical vol control / buttons (not just touch screen)
As much as possible, it should "just work" (I would prefer minimal need for messing about)
Needs to have radio, bluetooth audio streaming and call support only - anything else is a cool bonus (I do not need a DVD drive)
Of those I've seen, I much prefer the ones like this that look standard (this is an Ownice C500 Octa core)
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Any help appreciated.
I have a Joying (old RK3188) but if I would have to buy now, i would either take a Joying with the DigitalAmp (golden Backplate) or the Kenwood 516DABS.
With the Joying i had to fiddle a bit, but with the ROM from Malayk all its okay now.
Maybe it would be a good idea to wait for new Joying PX5 HeadUnits.... but nowbody knows when they will be released - just rumors.
Update:
check also the HeadUnit from VW China: its called RCD330+ and can be found on ebay and aliexpress sometimes.
Whatever you do: Do not buy from Ownice. There units are crap and they offer absolutely no after sale service.
I would recommend you to buy MTCD unit and install Malaysk Firmware on it. In my eyes that is the best combination available right now (unless you want to buy much more expensive units from Kenwood and the likes).
Kurt Lund said:
Whatever you do: Do not buy from Ownice. There units are crap and they offer absolutely no after sale service.
I would recommend you to buy MTCD unit and install Malaysk Firmware on it. In my eyes that is the best combination available right now (unless you want to buy much more expensive units from Kenwood and the likes).
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Stupid novice question, but how do I identify an "MTCD unit"?
Thanks!
For simple convenience, are any of the ones on Amazon UK worth buying? Like the Pumpkin units...
This Xtrons PCD76MTVA looks nice, is it a terrible buy?
Although it's probably par-for-the-course on here, I'd probably rather not install custom firmware etc if I can avoid it.
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Stupid novice question, but how do I identify an "MTCD unit"?
Thanks!
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It can be hard to tell which are MTCD units. Ask the seller to confirm it. The Xtron that you linked looks like an older model with low screen resolution and only a quad core processor. You should look for a PX5 octa core processor and a higher resolution.
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NB: I have MTCD units for VW from Xtron and Erisin and they both work well.
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It can be hard to tell which are MTCD units. Ask the seller to confirm it. The Xtron that you linked looks like an older model with low screen resolution and only a quad core processor. You should look for a PX5 octa core processor and a higher resolution.
Regards
Kurt Lund
NB: I have MTCD units for VW from Xtron and Erisin and they both work well.
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Thanks I will ask. Also looking at Joying, as they seem well thought of on here.
I have seen plenty of newer octacore ones, but they don't tend to look as good IMO. I definitely don't want one that's all touch screen.
I don't actually know how much performance matters for me - it needs to be responsive and start up quickly (i.e. just work nicely) but I'm not going to be installing lots of apps or doing advanced stuff with it - it will mostly just be used for Bluetooth audio and android auto screen mirroring.
I'm not as keen on it (due to screen size and position of rotary controls) but this is a digital amplifier Joying one as suggested by Grungi which I might just go for if it's going to work well. It has a quad core Intel SoFIA 3GR - no idea if that's good or not!
I have this one: http://xtrons.com/pb86unvp-8-hd-dig...yer-custom-fit-for-volkswagen-seat-skoda.html and it does what you want to use it for. I think you will regret buying a 7 inch model if you want to use GPS on it.
Kurt
The beast one should be pumpkin, since it at least has parrot Bluetooth. Anyway, the best option is always a pioneer or maybe the Kenwood solution for vw, but it's only available in Europe
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Hi all,
I just bought a new car , Hyundai I30 Primium (attached photo of the dashboard),
and want to install android radio in my car.
My budget is till 400$ , I already saw here recommendations on Joying 4GB , but it seems universal radio, is it fit to my car?
If not , which other models are recommended?
Thanks.
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I think you need to buy a car specific one like this:
http://s.aliexpress.com/yu2m6v2M
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Joying 4GB universal unit JY-UO135P4 can fit,while you need to buy suitable dash kit like this:http://www.carav-parts.com/index.ph...y_id=241&category_id2=652&year=2013&Itemid=58
SummerLiu said:
Joying 4GB universal unit JY-UO135P4 can fit,while you need to buy suitable dash kit like this:http://www.carav-parts.com/index.ph...y_id=241&category_id2=652&year=2013&Itemid=58
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Thanks!
It seems good.
I can buy this kit:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/CARAV-11-1...ash=item3f960f187e:g:PZQAAOSwx5ZaqNt8&vxp=mtr
and this head unit:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/JOYING-JY-...594&hash=item4d73dbf4c3:g:eek:vAAAOSwG4xa8Q7Q
There are any recommendations for other models that will give me better value for money?
velocity4 said:
I think you need to buy a car specific one like this:
http://s.aliexpress.com/yu2m6v2M
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Thanks,
I saw this model in aliexpress, it looks nice,
but this brand (KLYDE) , has high quality like Joying?
eli4 said:
Thanks,
I saw this model in aliexpress, it looks nice,
but this brand (KLYDE) , has high quality like Joying?
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The klyde is an MTC* unit, there is some good support out there...but there are various disadvantages to these, most of them build quality and MCU bugs.
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The klyde is an MTC* unit, there is some good support out there...but there are various disadvantages to these, most of them build quality and MCU bugs.
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I'm not sure what is MCU bugs
Maybe do you know what is the time that takes till the android system goes up?
it 5 seconds like in Joying?
Similar problem maybe someone have And he can recommend it?
aliexpress.com/item/KLYDE-10-1-Octa-Core-Android-8-0-4GB-RAM-32GB-ROM-Car-DVD-Multimedia-Player/32859144283.html
I am looking fast navi for my Hyundai Tucson 2017 I have factory navi and back camera.
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I'm not sure what is MCU bugs
Maybe do you know what is the time that takes till the android system goes up?
it 5 seconds like in Joying?
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Anyone?
Joying start in 5s? show me ... PX5 start in ~ 25-30s.
Do not buy chinese crap head unit
You know better?
bl4ck87 said:
Joying start in 5s? show me ... PX5 start in ~ 25-30s.
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It's 2GB memory?
2/4GB whats different... this is only RAM system use ~600MB processor is the most important
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It's 2GB memory?
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Look into the joying px5 units...4gb and 32gb...they usually end in P4, the model number.
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Look into the joying px5 units...4gb and 32gb...they usually end in P4, the model number.
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Ok thanks you all
I ordered - Joying Android 8.0 With 4GB/32GB.
+ Kit installation for I30.
Now the support of joying told me , that in order that the steering wheel control will be usable , I need harness adapter from site like this:
http://crutchfield.com/
www.carid.com
Do you know what they meant? which adapter do I need for the steering control?
Phoenix recently launched a PX6 unit for my truck. It's basically the only aftermarket system out there right now that works (somewhat) seamlessly with it. Needless to say, a bunch of us bought them and there's a pretty decent following on FB for them. Unfortunately, Phoenix's support is pretty much useless and almost entirely non-existent. There are quite a few little annoying bugs that really need to be worked out and some features that really could be added. We're not holding our breath that we'll ever get a response from Phoenix.
I spent several hours searching and reading today and have a little better understanding of exactly what hardware we're dealing with and just ended up more confused.
Can anyone tell me what type of unit this is (i.e.: MTCB, MTCD, other?) so I can at least narrow down my research on figuring out what can and can't be done with this thing?
This is what we have after Phoenix's most recent updates:
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The MCU type relates to the manufacturer so the MTC series is made by Microntek and you can tell by the filename in the MCU version. I have no idea who make the MCU for your HU. The SoM appears to be from ZXW but again good luck finding any info on that.
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The MCU type relates to the manufacturer so the MTC series is made by Microntek and you can tell by the filename in the MCU version. I have no idea who make the MCU for your HU. The SoM appears to be from ZXW but again good luck finding any info on that.
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There is ZXW voice recognition software on them, so you're probably on to something there.
I'm kind of surprised that there's not more info out there on these. I was under the impression that Phoenix has been selling quite a few of them. They're really awesome little units, but they'd be a whole lot better if I could tweak a few things!
I looked at one of those when I researched my HU and at the time it seemed Phoenix was pretty responsive with support and updates. Maybe they lost their dev. I wouldn't expect them to be a big outfit probably just a couple guys in all. I picked a PX5 MTC unit for the support, customization options and the IPS screen.
Here's a couple threads you might want to keep tabs on.
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I looked at one of those when I researched my HU and at the time it seemed Phoenix was pretty responsive with support and updates. Maybe they lost their dev. I wouldn't expect them to be a big outfit probably just a couple guys in all. I picked a PX5 MTC unit for the support, customization options and the IPS screen.
Here's a couple threads you might want to keep tabs on.
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Their support is mediocre at best. They've release a few updates and taken care of major problems, but there are lots of little bugs that they don't seem very interested in addressing. And there's zero documentation on how these things are setup and what some of the settings do. We get bits and pieces here and there, but there's also a huge language barrier that seems to make it harder to explain what some of the issues are.
It's my understanding that all of their stuff is made by a single company in China and they're just reselling. It's probably only a matter of time before other resellers will have the same unit and maybe that will open up some more support channels.
They probably get their units off Alibaba. I remember comparing specs with everything I could find on Aliexpress and the one I was looking at appeared to be very similar to the one made by ZWNAV. They don't have the best reputation either, another reason I went with what I got.
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They probably get their units off Alibaba. I remember comparing specs with everything I could find on Aliexpress and the one I was looking at appeared to be very similar to the one made by ZWNAV. They don't have the best reputation either, another reason I went with what I got.
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I think it's probably the other way around. Once the chinese manufacturer starts making units for one reseller, they'll sell them to everyone else too.
I do know that Phoenix has some involvement in the design/R&D on these as they used at least a couple peoples' trucks to probe and sniff the factory wiring for the integrated HVAC controls and the steering wheel controls, and of course, the wiring harnesses. I'm sure they just ship that info off to China for them to design the final product.
So far Phoenix is the only known vendor selling the radio for my truck. But I'm sure it'll eventually pop with others.
Any more info on these? I'm looking at the 12.1 vertical units for my Nissan Rogue. In the demo video, I noticed the passenger-side knob is labeled "teek" instead of "seek". Hopefully the final shipping units have been corrected. Anyway, just looking for more real world users of these units...
ANSWER: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...f-an-android-head-unit.4397413/#post-87635827
I'm looking in Aliexpress for several head units, but after some resarch, is obvious that most are the same model rebranded with a white-label
For example
Junsun V1 PRO
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Is a model that is repetead in several other brands like:
- JMCQ T10- Srnubi K31
But they are exactly the same.
One option: https://fr.aliexpress.com/item/4001205344015.html
Also is interesting to observe that the model Junsun V1 Pro is valid for almost all cars in the market, just mounting a mechanism to adapt to each car in particular.
I would like to buy something that has at least a little scene and can be rooted. But it's very difficult to research without even identifying the model
Can anyone help me out and give me some advice on how to find this?
Hello, I've done a little research on this myself and I think the hardware inside of these is manufactured by FYT. I found a forum dedicated to that here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/f/fyt-android-head-units.12445/
They share the same processor and other key details, but I haven't confirmed they are FYT yet. Mine should arrive soon and then I can
Also searching by T10 tag I found useful: https://forum.xda-developers.com/tags/t10/
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CorvetteCole said:
Hello, I've done a little research on this myself and I think the hardware inside of these is manufactured by FYT. I found a forum dedicated to that here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/f/fyt-android-head-units.12445/
They share the same processor and other key details, but I haven't confirmed they are FYT yet. Mine should arrive soon and then I can
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From the aspect I would say it's not a GFYT but a PX30
[ROM][PX5][PX6][PX30][Q][10] Hal9k Mod v5 for MTCx/HCTx head units with Android 10/9/8/6
Hal9k Mod v5 based on Android 10 for MTCx HCTx Rockchip PX5 (rk3368), PX6 (rk3399) and PX30 (rk3326) head units Compatible MCU versions: MTCD_XXXX, MTCE_XXXX, MTCP_XXXX, MTCH_XXXX, HCTG_XXXX Firmware version: 5.0.0 (31.07.2021) Version of the...
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After 3 hours of research I've found many things:
1. Most of this models are based on Mediatek chipsets. Not recommended at all. Junsun V1 with Mediatek MTK8259 has a little modding in this forum but not great thing. I would not recommend by any means. Generally they go with lower end MTK chipset like MTK8227L or 8229L that are the moist popular, and very ****ty)
2. The most open is the Rockchip RK3399 but at least for my car is expensive AF. It has a little modding like Hal9K mod that I've put the video above. Neither of the 3 models described above have this chip
3. There is one king in this world and is the Unisoc UIS7862. The amount of mods for this chipset is incredibly big (specially in 4PDA not in XDA unfortunatelly). Price point is not super expensive ($300 for 4+64 version).
MTK devices are the cheapest (but not much cheaper, around $210-250 for 4+64), then Unisoc and finally Rockchip which probably has increased in price because is the flagship for some Raspberry Pi like boards, which are being dumped in the aftermarkets and increasing massively in price due to this fact. If this did not happened, Rockchip would probably the cheapest among all.
This is my conclusion. I'm thinking two options:
A) Buy a UIS7862 which is, by far, the best option right now
B) Wait for UIS7862S to see if it gets some traction, more offer (a little bit expensive right now) and go for a 2000x1200 model, which is a great update compared to regular UIS7862 and it's currently featuring A12 (so probably I could wait for mods to arise in at least 1 year, considering that most HU take a lot of time to create a community, still a very risky bet, considering that the community for UIS7862 is huge.