Hi All,
I'm looking for advice. I want to fit android head-unit into my BMW e90. Looking at what is available on the market I think that there is nothing that would do all I need. Basically:
Joying JY-UOS03N4 - System looks most up to date spec-wise, it looks like the DSP provides very good control of the audio output, I like the detachable screen as I could place the LCD higher on the dash (with a custom mount). Issues: No support for BMW Canbus (Parking sensors chimes, parking sensors display, canbus data display)
Eonon GA9165 - Should nicely integrate into the the car, has physical buttons and full BMW canbus support. Issues: Software looks dated, no clear mention of support for android auto, poor sound output control (equaliser with 4 presents that's all, no mention of high/low pass filters for the sub etc.)
Xtrons PB7890BP - Not sure of anything on this unit.
Ideally I would like to get the Joying unit working with Canbus adapter from Eonon (can be purchased separately). So I have few questions:
- Does anyone know what signalling those adapters use? Is that somethign like usb/serial or just outputs resistive values like on normal car stereo?
- How difficult would it be to extract software (that displays the stats, parking sensors etc) from Eonon and put it into Joying unit?
- Is it worth a hassle? Any other ideas?
Thanks
GA9165B owner
I have a Hifi system, and I also only use the High quality options from Google play or streaming.
I very much think this unit puts out well left alone. There are lots of hidden menus in the head unit. And I think there is a sub output control buried in there with all the AVI controls.
I just want to go to Android 9 and ditch the locked Widget screen and expand the volume control option submenus.
The bigges setback is the system doesnt let you one aspect of sound its all or nothing single slide flat control, audio gets interrupted by unpleasent notifications and is unsettling.
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Hello
I have a 1991 R129 500SL that has a single din radio slot, so I'm looking for a single din android unit, 2 Din isn't possible in this car without lots of cutting and modifications, which is something I'm not willing to venture into.
I'm looking for a single din android unit with preferably the latest possible OS, iPod control or the ability to connect to a 2.5 external HDD. iPod control is very important to me as my entire music library is on my iPod classic. My second option would be to connect an external hard disk to the unit.
I would like to have a unit that has most of the slots on the rear end with a clean front interface with the option to change button colors to match my ambient lighting.
I've trying to some pictures of my current setup and what my center console looks like, doesn't seem to be an option to post pictures from my phone.
Anyways, any help is really appreciated guys.
Thank you
No one has an idea about single din android units that can control an iPod classic?
Any aftermarket apps perhaps to make this work?
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No one has an idea about single din android units that can control an iPod classic?
Any aftermarket apps perhaps to make this work?
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https://www.amazon.com/PIONEER-AVH-X7800BT-1Din-Receiver-Bluetooth/dp/B017LKVMAS/
Probably your bet bet is something like this.
There's about 0 market for Single-DIN android, the entire market is double-DIN now.
As for that unit there, it isn't android but the Pioneer units are decent. I've used 2 of them in the past, but double-DIN.
Personally, I have no interest in the motorized fold-out screens. So here's a Joying Sofia unit which is single-Din mount, but with a double-DIN screen.
https://www.amazon.com/Autoradio-Bluetooth-Navigation-Aftermarket-Multimedia/dp/B01M8JHSP3/
I hope your vents aren't in the way!
Thanks for your reply.
I did buy the Pioneer 7800BT unit but I returned it the next day, as it tends to stall quite often when playing songs from my iPod and takes a long time to switch between tracks.
Also the Appradio mode is very impracticable, I need to keep my phone connected via usb which means no iPod. Also I need to install a specific Pioneer keyboard on my S7 edge otherwise the keyboard won't show up on the head unit for any input. This means I have to keep switching keyboards in my phone whenever I enter or exit the car. Also you can't really use google maps or anything like that as Appradio One is not true mirroring, I can only see a map with no nav options or turn by turn guidance.
You can use waze but there is a problem with the screen formatting, a lot of prompts are off-screen. It's not properly configured for this head unit.
All in all, it was a very poor effort by Pioneer so I returned it. I saw the joying units but they won't fit my console as you can see from the pics below, and they don't support iPod, and neither do Pumpkin head units.
Hello everybody,
I'm searching for the best unit for Volkswagen Passat B7 (year 2012) to replace my RCD 510. What I am looking for:
- Android unit with 8'' - 10'' diagonal
- Dual channel Can-Bus - (the unit should display car events: door open, AC temperature settings, parking sensors information)
- VW car steering wheel control support
- DAB+
- Good bluetooth or integration with VW bluetooth module (Is this even possible?)
I've heard about Joying, Seicane and Dasaita and I'm not sure which one is better. Your advice or suggestions will be much appreciated and welcomed. Thank you.
Best Regards
I can hardly answer your question as it stated since I only tried (and use) Joying HU.
I've replaced my RNS-510 mostly because map updates in my region are not supported anymore. Had quite a hard time with Joying, but finally have no any doubts that would do it (change) again.
My HU is 8" with HW buttons, which helps alot: being able to switch to Navi/Radio/Home from any screen is a good thing. CAN bus works OK: climate indication, doors, outside temp, safety belts, fuel, mileage, park sensors, rear view cam, hand brake status, steering wheel controls do work. I did not buy DAB+ and had a hard time with AM/FM radio reception, but changing antenna harness (both were in Joying's direct supply) solved the problem.
BT app is much inferior to the VW factory unit, especially if you do outcoming calls when driving. Incoming calls are also first identified with bare numbers, not names - it corrects on the 2nd call.
I use Huawei E8xxx 4G modem as WiFi hotspot, Joying rear cam and Joying dashcam. All in all - it's a new world which opens to you with Android HU. I could not have something like this (and much more) on factory RNS: https://yadi.sk/i/Zg1TFzHu3PDvou
You plan to abandon RCD unit, which is not a Navi system. For those like me who had RNS Navi - you are going to miss correct tunnel/no GPS guidance and correct direction in the morning when factory Navi knows right from ignition how to make proper guidance. In 3-rd party HU there is no compass, gyros and speed sensor data which are used by a navi program (speed is available via CAN, but a navi program is not aware of it, only GPS). I still agree when VW calls it's 9 year old factory HU a "premium navi".
Sound quality can not compare to factory unit despite that brand new "digital amp" (I have "D" model), but here I am lucky - all my audio interests are in FM news radio.
I also have a Passat 2012 and a Joying Sofia 8" with HW knobs (JY VL130N2).
I am generally very pleased with this combination. Everything works except for
BT indeed is not perfect.
Dasaita units also have a good reputation here. I never had one, so I cannot tell much about those...
Hello,
Thanks for response. I'm wondering if there's a specific model from Joying that's current "the best". At the moment I'm looking at:
VW 6.0 OCTA CORE HEAD UNIT PX5 and VW NEW DIGITAL AMPLIFIER AUTORADIO ANDROID 6.0 HEAD UNIT
If anyone have any other suggestions (Dasaita, Seicane...) please dont hesitate to say. Thanks.
Regards
Do not mess with "octa PX5". The second link is OK, since the part number is DE-JY-VM130N2D - just the same I have. If you have external amp, then "D" model is not recomended, take one without "digital amp" built in - like DE-JY-VM130N2.
With that choice we have a very promising perspective, just take a look here https://forum.carjoying.com/thread-1377-current-state-of-hackishness-.html
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Do not mess with "octa PX5". The second link is OK, since the part number is DE-JY-VM130N2D - just the same I have. If you have external amp, then "D" model is not recomended, take one without "digital amp" built in - like DE-JY-VM130N2.
With that choice we have a very promising perspective, just take a look here https://forum.carjoying.com/thread-1377-current-state-of-hackishness-.html
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Why are you saying do not mess with PX5? A lot of users recomends PX5 because it is new and has unofficial support like PX3, so seems more futureproof than anything else right now.
Hello,
I installed the FunRover Android 8.1 Intel Airmont eight-core 1.8GHz SC9853i (4GB RAM, 64GB flash) on my Skoda Octavia 2 FL RS (2010).
I would like to provide an intial feedback to all who might consider this headunit and ask some questions regarding setup of some Android headunit features.
Links to setup:
Headunit: https://www.aliexpress.com/store/pr...ml?spm=2114.12010612.8148356.2.20b456d00mOBJe
DVR Camera: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/HD-...ml?spm=2114.12010108.1000023.7.35b11b8d1Fd2HV
1) Installation:
Pro:
- plug and play - no extra adapters needed
- direct integration with can for vehicle information like: door open, car sensors, steering wheel controls, AC info
- good fit
Cons:
- held in place only by the frame's plastic pins
- it provides a single USB, the second one has an AUX cable plug that is fit if you have the original oem usb cable, so make sure you have it or buy the proper aux to USB cable if you need two USB ports
2) Look and Feel:
Pro:
- good design
- pleasant touch feel
- somewhat responsive
Cons:
- the screen seems to be of less than high end quality: left side touchscreen buttons section seems slightly detached from the frame (1-2 mm) and moves when pressed
- the screen is not IPS... the seller added a note on the site that you need to ask specifically for IPS screen....
- glass protector and screen reflect strongly in daylight so it is not ideal
- the silver frame has a gold tint so it does not match the silver dashboard tint from the car perfectly
- touch buttons do not respond always - you find yourself having to push twice for a response
3) Hardware & related features:
Pro:
- specs seem enough for anything you may need
- built-in 4G modem
- good GPS signal
Cons:
- intel / platfrom heats like crazy - average CPU temp is 80C - screen gets hot because of this
- only one 4G antenna - but stil OK signal
- extremely poor WiFi signal (phone has full wifi from router and the headunit has maybe half or even losing signal)
- 4G modem has poor speed, maybe you get 300KB download speed over 4G
- hardware has poor screening for interference: radio has a "buzz"; even with all audio stopped you get a hum in the speakers
- sound is poor compared to a high / mid radio: I had the Skoda Bolero unit and the sound is twice as good; after some EQ tweaks I was able to get a decent sound quality, but you will need an external amp if you want mid/high sound quality
- screen is reflective; maybe if you ask for the IPS version it will be better
- bluetooth seems to disconnect when on a bumpy road... so I'm putting this on HW; must test more
4) Software:
Pro:
- stable up to now
- quick cold boot (compared to an Ownice500 I had)
- sleep option makes almost instant boot, but I am worried of battery drain so I turned it off as you can't configure a max sleep time before complete shutdown (as you can on other headunits)
- reverse supports steering direction via can (the lines move when turning the steering wheel); also standard OEM parking sensors are supported
- support for vehicle info
- you can update the DVR app to gain some virtual adas features
Cons:
- the worst UI I saw, heavily restricted regarding customization - however I noticed the same is on Joying Intel units
- limited OS options compared to other Android Headunits, but sufficient for non Android geeks
- Radio app does not scale when used in split screen
- widgets from newly installed apps only show up after restart
- no manuals or detailed OS / SW options explained. You have an operational instructions app, but the descriptions are basic.
- reverse cam is not instant - has a 5s delay for app up
- the screen brightness can be controlled from the headlights setting or "time" - but the time can't be configured and is not synchronized with the sunset information from google maps for example
- minimum screen brightness can be too high for some people
- volume control is not separate for notifications etc. it's just one volume slider; you can configure some sound ratios between media, navigation , bluetooth, but that's it.... compared to ownice where you could configure nav / bluetooth / etc volume on the fly
- does not integrate with the car bluetooth module for audio output... but I guess it's too much to ask
- major issue with sound volume: seems related to using the steering wheel volume up/down - results in volume going to max or min randomly and using any button (screen, physical or steering wheel) only slows it down, but it's like it keeps getting the command to do volume up or down in paralel to any additional input you may do. You gain control after 10-30s if you keep pushing the mute / volume up/down on the steering wheel, however it is DANGEROUS (especially when it goes to MAX volume) because it can blow your speakers or scare the hell out of you / maybe cause an accident when it happens during driving.
5) External accessories:
5.1) FunRover DVR cam:
Pro:
- good viewing angle (170)
- plug and play
- DVR app works out of the box; starts automatically on boot and records 2 min time loop while overwriting oldest files
Cons:
- extremely limited DVR app - basically NO options to configure
- no file management; can't access the MicroSD card files of the camera from the headunit file manager; only works in the DVR app but I can't find a way to move / share these over to a separate location - e.g. google drive
5.2) External MIC:
- non existent - even though the seller said they will send it as gift it was not in the package
5.3) Reverse camera:
- I did not install it yet; I will get another HD cam and make a comparison with the packaged one
Questions:
A) What UI/Launcher do you recommend for such platforms? Will it show the built in apps (e.g. radio) or will they have to be reinstalled?
B) How can I manage or move files from DVR to another location - e.g. on headunit storage? DVR has... Novatek chipset. Do you recommend another DVR app?
C) What widgets / apps do you recommend to use for displaying the CANBUS information? I will try realDash to see if it can take the canbus source...., however I was hoping to have something like a widget on the homescreen and not an app
D) Did anyone encounter the sound volume uncontrollable volume issue? I already disabled the "bluetooth absolute volume" with no change in behavior. Also none of the sound settings made a difference. It seems like somehow the signal from the steering wheel button is processed in a loop. From my current experience it seems to be a canbus decoder or HU software issue.
E) Did anyone manage to integrate such a headunit with the skoda bluetooth module for audio output?
You can ask me other questions about this headunit and I will answer / test.
Have fun!
Hi, I just bought the same radio, but for Mitsubishi ASX. My first impression is almost the same like yours. My main problem is external microphone - when I use bluetooth for call, only internal mic is working.. :/ (matter of adjustment??). also RDS on radio is almost invisible..
I am looking for this device, now its android 9.0, but not sure if still TFT and not IPS screen. @axicos do you know if they improved this unit?
My new funrover arrived. Looks beautiful, ips screen, android 9.0, 2 USB (with CarPlay) but I have some issue's:
- parking sensors activate screen info when switched on by button or reverse, but don't shows the distance
- a/c temp is 2°C below the select one on the controller
- car settings menu : I can't activate any option
My car it's sa 2013 Passat variant.
Hey There!
I have a PX5 Android Radio (xtrons) built in my Mercedes-Benz E-Class (W211). This car has a display built in the speedometer, where you normally can search for another frequency or play the next DVD track.
I can play the next song with steering wheel buttons with the PX5, it even shows a small "AUX" text when AVIN is open, or "BT" when i play music via bluetooth. With the media player open, I can see the time of the track and can move forward and backwards.
Would that be possible with Spotify installed on the px5 to? Maybe with an android application, that sends the text via the canbus to the display? If that would work, it would be even possible to show Navigation on it.
Hopefully somebody could help me find a documentation or sth, so I could try to code such an application.
I have the same car with a PX6 head unit. It seems it's not possible to display any track info from Spotify or navigation info in the speedometer display.
Do you have the Harman/Kardon Logic 7 sound system? If so, are you using a fiber optics adapter with your head unit?
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I have the same car with a PX6 head unit. It seems it's not possible to display any track info from Spotify or navigation info in the speedometer display.
Do you have the Harman/Kardon Logic 7 sound system? If so, are you using a fiber optics adapter with your head unit?
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I don't have the Harman/Kardon Logic sound system. It should be possible to write Text or pixels to the Dash Display via the canbus. It already displays "BT or AUX" so there also should be existing code that does this.
It would be mind blowing to have the Navigation Info in the Dash Display among with Radar Detection etc...
Hi everyone,
My name is Max and today I bricked my headunit Nothing fancy because it was 8227l_demo with 2gb/32gb. I'm looking for the best android headunit for now. Size 9". Android 9.1/10 + DSP. Can you all recommend something for me? TEYES CC2 Plus is a good one?
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Hi everyone,
My name is Max and today I bricked my headunit Nothing fancy because it was 8227l_demo with 2gb/32gb. I'm looking for the best android headunit for now. Size 9". Android 9.1/10 + DSP. Can you all recommend something for me? TEYES CC2 Plus is a good one?
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Depends on your budget. I would start with Rockchip PX6, PX5 or PX3. Just make sure it's a MTCx unit (so MCU type starts with letters MTC)
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Hi everyone,
My name is Max and today I bricked my headunit Nothing fancy because it was 8227l_demo with 2gb/32gb. I'm looking for the best android headunit for now. Size 9". Android 9.1/10 + DSP. Can you all recommend something for me? TEYES CC2 Plus is a good one?
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I just took delivery of one. (3/ 32GB)
Seems very well made. According to most YouTube videos I've seen in general, it is as fast as you need it to be, no bad signs of lag and of course if you're using a phone hotspot also depends on your WiFi. It will do me TBH vs. another sim card bill.
Audio quality is reportedly a plus too (which is important obviously)
I seen 2gb units with preloaded apps loading nicely, playing USB HD video files, GPS maps.
Pic is of unit inside Astra Mk6 OEM fascia fitting you get a GM canbus decoder and another speaker unit for indicators door open warning sounds.
I suppose like most gadgets any cons will be personal and appear after spending time with it.
I will report again after I install it after holidays. I botched a couple of photo uploads. If anyone needs any pics let me know. Merry Christmas Folks.
I have to say it's a neat little device with surprisingly decent A/V quality.
All the usual apps Spotify, Netflix, Prime, YouTube work perfectly.
Just connect your Google acc for most direct main app settings.
(If Google is not a preference, Admittedly I'm not surprised)
I have all connections in place, incl. 8pin CANbus but unfortunately the CANbus decoder is not sending a signal to the CC2 plus unit.
It's a Raise RSC and a guy on YouTube told me he got a Raise RZS which works fine.
(Seller said there is NO Raise RZS only RZC)
I'm disappointed as I've said it's a good unit and a working CANbus would have been icing on the cake as I get no reaction from cd 400 control button panel, Steering wheel controls, Door open warnings, A/C display etc.
I can't think where I go from here except try a different decoder. It's a decent probability I have a non working CANbus. And I've tried a lot of attempting to connect it.
EDIT Feb 2021: CANbus issue resolved.
There was a very slightly misaligned pin in the CANbus decoder connection zone
(zone c on CC2plus)
So I straightened it as best as I thought, connected 8 pin connection from loom and now it all works fine.
Incl; Door open warning s - Original cd400 unit fascia buttons / Steering Wheel buttons - A/C display etc. So happy days.