Maybe superfluous, but this is an idea I had for a launcher. This is inspired by the lens-eye feature from the excellent Comic Reader Mobile found on this forum.
- First picture shows standard launcher screen with lots and lots of really small icons. Small enough that hopefully all your programs fit on this screen.
- Second picture shows screen-area that is pressed.
- Third picture shows a lens that enlarges the icons close to where has been pressed.
This way any program in this launcher is 2 quick presses away. No more scrolling, no more having to leave icons out of a category because of space constraints.
Is this worthwhile?
If you want my opinion I think your idea is fast to launch items but slow to find them. I know that after some time playing with it, if you already know where it is you will launch it fast but....
I have another proposal for you . For my app I've done a couple of widgets that I call Bubbles (see attachment). The "flower" is initially closed and if you hold your finger in the middle it opens showing the icons surrounding, then draging your finger and releasing it over the desired icon you launch the app. thsi way if you are capable of grouping the apps into categories (grames, programs, comm, profiles, etc) you can access all those options with only one tap & hold .
I liked it, maybe a round lens with an animation will be more attractive
..sure, with dx 10 effects for your htc phones.
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nice idea, sunra, but menus seems generally better, than today launchers...like quickmenu i.e...
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I liked it, maybe a round lens with an animation will be more attractive
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Haha, it is certainly not meant to look like this! I had the look and feeling of the lens system of Comic Reader in mind.
APBilbo, your system is really nice. Our systems look alike. I want to ask you if you have any programs where you're not sure in what category you like to place them?
Nothin, could you explain why menu's seem better to you?
it is hard to explain - quick menu revised my today plugins, so i do not need to waste today space, menu is fast method with small mem usage.
i know, htc is promoting its ****ty stuff and many users got it, but there are other options, luckily....
i like claunch, tho(tap on empty space shuffles to next hm, tab"..).
claunch is nice but...
a programm launcher like the scrollbar in manila would be nice... as homeplugin...
it would be nice ... because you can insert lot of programs
8x8 icons with claunch(as line with 18 px height) is not enough?
i said, that i am using many tabs in that 1 line - tap on EMPTY space moves to another one, do i need to see ALL icons at once?
nope.
my rom contains ~60-70 applications i've added to rom, besides system ones, you know
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keep loving your manila's, guys...
ehhh.
It's called a ZUI my friend, a Zooming User Interface
To be honest, I like it, but I think only one level of zoom should be required. Too many clicks otherwise.
Chuck in some decent kinetic scrolling for if there were too many items to fit on the screen, and you're on to a winner!
Might have a look-see to see how hard she'll be to whip up a prototype...
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I have a concept homescreen replacer where there are no "pages", instead there is one single horizontal scrolling strip, much like a film strip. Think Windows Phone 7, but with widgets, icons, folders etc and horizontal.
Look at the attachment if you dont understand. I would put the image in the post but I cant post outside links yet.
Yes, it is possible to see half a widget, but I thought about it and decided it will be to the user to scroll so it is displayed right.
I have no experience in coding but I am pretty good in graphics like my picture
Tell me what you think
I've been thinking about and attempting to create (with limited success so far.) something similar to your home replacement but Vertical Scroll rather than horizontal. To give you an idea it would look similar to The Zune Launcher or the but also be able to take widgets. Again no snap to screen (cant figure that bit out).
Good luck with this, it would be interesting to see what experiences you gain and what problems you run into. Similar to you I am fantastic with graphics but not too good at coding (not done any since C++)
When I "jailbroke" my ipod ages ago, there was a tweak that was called "smooth scrolling" and it did the exact same thing described here. I think it would be awesome to have a free-scrolling home screen. I am working on a home replacement myself and it features a vertically scrolling home screen where the icons and widgets can be placed anywhere (not snap to a grid). If you would like to help, click on the logo in my signature to be taken to my site to see what I am working on. I could use a hand in graphics, myself. PM me if you're interested
I would prefer something that is like infiniboard for iOS
This would technically allow widgets to stretch past the 1 page limit in LauncherPro, as in, you could have widgets large enough that they cut off, allowing for some GREAT theming and future uses.
hmmm....interested but why vertical? feels a little to Windows Phone to me and i think widgets would work better scrolling horizontally. I looked up smooth scrolling for iOS and yep thats what i want with widgets and gridless.
I just want to subscribe to this and give my two cents:
I think any seamless homescreen app should still have the option at least of enabling a grid for apps and widgets. The idea of this as a functioning homescreen replacement could certainly get me to switch over from ADW, but only if it could satisfy my OCD needs for everything to be lined up juuuust so.
I think this would be a great thing to have, but I also would like to have an option for the widgets & apps to line up on a grid. while it is great to have the seamless scrolling (preferably horizontal & not vertical...maybe there could be an option for that as well) I like things to line up too.
I could definitely make that an option for my home-replacement. I just want to know what people would want out of a home replacement so that I can model mine around the general consensus of what everybody wants. Oh, and why does everybody want vertical scrolling? Because its different. Sure Windows phone 7 has it. But it does it in its own way. Android is know for its open-ness and widgets. The wonder of Android is that anyone can do anything with Android, and its free.
At first I want to say that the idea of a seamless lauchner is brilliant.
I had that idea by myself but I have no experience in programming.
I think I would prefer somewalls original concept with icons that fit into a grid and horizontal scrolling. To me it seems to be more useful on portrait format screens compared to vertical scrolling.
But anyway, I hope the best for you guys.
I think vertically scrolling widgets will work buggy this way. Unless there would be some kind of listener that stops the horizontal scrolling when interacting with a vertically scrolling widget.
Else both ways of scrolling will interfere.
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I like the idea, it's something that I would love to have on my phone! Just one suggestion.. I would like to see both horizontal and vertical scrolling, if it could be developed. As in, the user decides what kind of scrolling he wants, either vertical, horizontal.. or may be both? I don't if it's possible or not, I have no "serious" coding experience, as you may call it since am just in school!
Is there any option to move the home back and app switcher buttons? I have to stretch to reach them, is there anyway to move them so they are on the side like the menu button?
Agreed. Personally I'd like to see the controls fixed to the bottom left as they are for most other tablets. Would also much prefer the status icons switched to the bottom right, where there's much more screen space to make them bigger
I agree with you. I'm a Xoom user since it came out. This is one modification of the OS that I think is a step backwards.
It's because the Nexus 10 uses the "Phablet" UI instead of a Tablet UI. Wait a few weeks for some custom Roms to come out. Someone for sure will cook something up
Completely agree... keeping in the phablet mode may be ok for 7" devices, or even in portrait mode, but in landscape mode, those buttons are not easily reached with the thumb making it very awkward
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still nothing new with moving/positioning these buttons?
Root -> flash AOKP rom mr robinson -> go to settings -> rom control-> tablet ui -> choose tablet ui
(At least , this is what i do )
Find more settings there to move wathever you want
( write a pm to mr robinson if you want more customisation in the future )
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Is there any option to move the home back and app switcher buttons? I have to stretch to reach them, is there anyway to move them so they are on the side like the menu button?
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I have gone to a full screen display and replaced the buttons using a combination of:
full!screen+ which removs the top and botton bars plus allows me access to notifications as a popup from one of the four screen corners
LMT Launcher's PIE to which I add the standard "home back and app switcher buttons ... etc". It can do so much more besides just that. PIE overlays any app by thumbing over a specific side of the display and auto disappears when not used. It even overlays during video playback without stopping the video.
Definitely read the documentation in the LMT Launcher post, as that and a little time trying the various options will really enhance your experience.
After using these two apps for more than a month I feel having the top and bottom bars are a waste of screen space.
I am running rooted Stock 4.2.2.
Yep there are lots of ROMs now that enable tablet UI for those who want the buttons on the left side. And some ROMs that do not have the option enabled have a tabletUI mod that can be flashed to it, like Sentinel 4.60
I have literally no idea what Xiaomi was thinking when they had this setting off by default.
Open settings
Navigate to additional settings
Open the buttons tab
Turn ON the first option in the list, "Screen buttons can hide"
This also allows for the homescreen wallpaper to actually take up the entire screen. With regards to app compatibility, I'm surprised that nearly everything supports 17:9 perfectly.
**To clarify: this tweak allows the Mi Mix to render applications/games in its' full 2040x1080 (17:9) resolution. Before this tweak is applied, all apps are rendered in 16:9; the area in which the on screen buttons are present will always be wasted screen real estate. Obviously, this setting doesn't magically adapt content that was natively created for 16:9 (IE Youtube videos) and adapt them to fit the entire screen.
Your title is really misleading. For starters, when you recieve the mix one of the first screens that pops up is exactly this option. Second, even if you hide the Navigation buttons in apps like youtube, you'll still have black bars since youtube doesn't support the 17:9 aspect ratio. I think this thread is good for people that skipped trough this setting or didn't know about it, but i think you should change the title.
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Your title is really misleading. For starters, when you recieve the mix one of the first screens that pops up is exactly this option. Second, even if you hide the Navigation buttons in apps like youtube, you'll still have black bars since youtube doesn't support the 17:9 aspect ratio. I think this thread is good for people that skipped trough this setting or didn't know about it, but i think you should change the title.
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There was a prompt to turn on this setting upon factory reset? I never saw this. As to your second point, my title doesn't say display media content made for 16:9 on 17:9, just run the apps (UI).
This method doesn't give you full 17:9, but it is very easy to do and it's good enough for some, as OP stated, you just need to go to setting and set it. But since Nav bar is basically still there and it's just hidden after you swipe it down, some content could still be in 16:9. To really get your phone to show everything that's possible for 17:9, you should use the Xposed method to remove the Nav bar completely, this way you get the full 17:9 experience. As an example, third party launcher like Nova launcher would not be in 17:9 if you use the OP method, but with Xposed, you can use the Nav Bar space for whatever you want.
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This method doesn't give you full 17:9, but it is very easy to do and it's good enough for some, as OP stated, you just need to go to setting and set it. But since Nav bar is basically still there and it's just hidden after you swipe it down, some content could still be in 16:9. To really get your phone to show everything that's possible for 17:9, you should use the Xposed method to remove the Nav bar completely, this way you get the full 17:9 experience. As an example, third party launcher like Nova launcher would not be in 17:9 if you use the OP method, but with Xposed, you can use the Nav Bar space for whatever you want.
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Which module you have used to hide the navbar?
Tested xMiui, well the navbar is hidden, but the space it leaves is still not usable. A build.prop edit works better fof me. Now the space is usable by TSF launcher and all other apps. I'm using LMT pie instead.
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qemu.hw.mainkeys=0
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qemu.hw.mainkeys=1
You could keep a backup to revert the change with TWRP filemanager if needed.
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I just use xMIUI and the space are totally usable after reboot. Meaning icons, widgets docks can be all the way down at the bottom of screen where the usual nav bar was.
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This method doesn't give you full 17:9, but it is very easy to do and it's good enough for some, as OP stated, you just need to go to setting and set it. But since Nav bar is basically still there and it's just hidden after you swipe it down, some content could still be in 16:9. To really get your phone to show everything that's possible for 17:9, you should use the Xposed method to remove the Nav bar completely, this way you get the full 17:9 experience. As an example, third party launcher like Nova launcher would not be in 17:9 if you use the OP method, but with Xposed, you can use the Nav Bar space for whatever you want.
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I just use xMIUI and the space are totally usable after reboot. Meaning icons, widgets docks can be all the way down at the bottom of screen where the usual nav bar was.
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How is swiping down and hiding the nav bar not running apps in 17:9? Games prior to this setting would render in 1080p with black bars, after this setting they render the entire screen (and the nav bar is transparent). What you're saying literally makes no sense. I've been using Nova launcher and I just tested swiping down on the home screen and the nav bar fully disappears and the dock icons move down right where the nav bar was. They DO move down all the way to the bottom of the screen. I guess if you want to fully remove the nav bar or use the space for "whatever you want" via exposed, one can go that route, but I don't see why anyone would want to remove it. How they hell are you gonna get to your home screen, go back, or view multitasking?
Indeed, if you really want to use the full screen, you need to remove the nav bar not hiding it. Since you are using nova launcher so I will use that as an example. If you have a news widget setup to display in 16:9, when you hide the nav bar by sliding down, the widget stays in 16:9 leaving the bottom space empty.
This is just one of the many examples where content won't automatically convert to 17:9 if you hide nav bar on real time. Besides it has been reported that some of the graphic glitch or system slowness are due to the nav bar hiding and appearing.
The solution I went with is to remove nav bar completely, so everything are shown in 17:9 natively, no switching between 16:9 and 17:9 causing the system to do extra work and have chance to misbehave. I haven't personally run the hiding nav bar method for too long as I knew quite early that's not gonna be good enough for me so I can't really comment more on the stability of it.
As of control, there are many method you can choose, simple control allow you to have exactly the same function as normal nav bar but all would run in 17:9 and it can automatically hide nav bar after some interval. Simple pie brings out overlay for nav control, I am running floating menu which is completely invisible. No overlay and is just a quick swipe to perform your usual back, home recent actions. In a lot of cases, it's faster than bringing up nav bar and click on what you want then swipe down to hide. With floating menu, it's just a single swipe.
Anyway, I am not saying anything that is best, you see what you like and that's best for you. I go with my method because it's the cleanest and has no overlay at all. Going xposed is super easy for me as I am very familiar with it.
Some would find it hard to do, some would not want to do it, some just like to hide and bring up nav bar then rehide it afterwards. Hell, some even like to use the quick ball instead. Try them all and you will see what's best for you.
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Indeed, if you really want to use the full screen, you need to remove the nav bar not hiding it. Since you are using nova launcher so I will use that as an example. If you have a news widget setup to display in 16:9, when you hide the nav bar by sliding down, the widget stays in 16:9 leaving the bottom space empty.
This is just one of the many examples where content won't automatically convert to 17:9 if you hide nav bar on real time. Besides it has been reported that some of the graphic glitch or system slowness are due to the nav bar hiding and appearing.
The solution I went with is to remove nav bar completely, so everything are shown in 17:9 natively, no switching between 16:9 and 17:9 causing the system to do extra work and have chance to misbehave. I haven't personally run the hiding nav bar method for too long as I knew quite early that's not gonna be good enough for me so I can't really comment more on the stability of it.
As of control, there are many method you can choose, simple control allow you to have exactly the same function as normal nav bar but all would run in 17:9 and it can automatically hide nav bar after some interval. Simple pie brings out overlay for nav control, I am running floating menu which is completely invisible. No overlay and is just a quick swipe to perform your usual back, home recent actions. In a lot of cases, it's faster than bringing up nav bar and click on what you want then swipe down to hide. With floating menu, it's just a single swipe.
Anyway, I am not saying anything that is best, you see what you like and that's best for you. I go with my method because it's the cleanest and has no overlay at all. Going xposed is super easy for me as I am very familiar with it.
Some would find it hard to do, some would not want to do it, some just like to hide and bring up nav bar then rehide it afterwards. Hell, some even like to use the quick ball instead. Try them all and you will see what's best for you.
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Ahhh very thorough response. Thanks for clarifying as you did bring up some good points.
I've disabled navbar with builp.prop edit now. As pie i'm using gravitybox, the only one i've found working in any possible situation! LMT, unique controls etc., these are all requesting overlay permission, means these are not working like a real xposed code swap would work. The problem with implementations like LMT, etc. is, it fails if you're using apps like paypal, that desktivate all overlay apps in start. That means, open paypal, pie dead, no navigation possible. For me unusable. The only working real replacement is gravitybox. If anybody knows another, nicer desugned one....
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I am running floating menu with PayPal, non-issue at all. Liked i mentioned many times already, if you want the cleanest way to maximise everything in 17:9, you won't get anything better than this. It has no overlay and you don't see anything at all. (or if you want, a bit of overlay to help you click and swipe). Otherwise it's totally invisible.
If you want more functions like app shortcut and so on, simple pie would be better.
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I am running floating menu with PayPal, non-issue at all. Liked i mentioned many times already, if you want the cleanest way to maximise everything in 17:9, you won't get anything better than this. It has no overlay and you don't see anything at all. (or if you want, a bit of overlay to help you click and swipe). Otherwise it's totally invisible.
If you want more functions like app shortcut and so on, simple pie would be better.
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Same with gravitybox pie, you see nothing until you swipe up from bottom left, right. Anyway i'll have a look to floating menu, too.
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Difference is with pie, you see the overlay when you swipe up then you need to locate the icon then let go. So ya there is still overlay and it takes a tiny more effort.
With floating menu, you swipe up then that's it. You don't locate and you don't see anything at all, hence it's totally clean. I truly believe it doesn't get any simpler than this.
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I just use xMIUI and the space are totally usable after reboot. Meaning icons, widgets docks can be all the way down at the bottom of screen where the usual nav bar was.
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What feature do u use exactly in xmiui
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I just use xMIUI and the space are totally usable after reboot. Meaning icons, widgets docks can be all the way down at the bottom of screen where the usual nav bar was.
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Hi, do you mind sharing how to use xMiui to do that? I can't seems to find that option. And you mentioned abound simple control? Where can I get it? Thanks =)
I am new to miui
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What feature do u use exactly in xmiui
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Well, many I guess, there are a tone of things you can change in XMIUI, you can customise pretty much anything you want
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Hi, do you mind sharing how to use xMiui to do that? I can't seems to find that option. And you mentioned abound simple control? Where can I get it? Thanks =)
I am new to miui
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It's under HW keys, and scroll all the way down to nav bar and set it to hide.
You can download simple control from App Store. Same developer that created simple pie.
This is my personal preference: Float menu > simple control > simple pie
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Well, many I guess, there are a tone of things you can change in XMIUI, you can customise pretty much anything you want
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It's under HW keys, and scroll all the way down to nav bar and set it to hide.
You can download simple control from App Store. Same developer that created simple pie.
This is my personal preference: Float menu > simple control > simple pie
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Thank you so much
After testing :
Apps now run 17:9 natively.
One issue: simple control get killed by system memory cleaner using the recent button while clearing all task. Will need to wait for about 20s for simple control to work again.
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Thank you so much
After testing :
Apps now run 17:9 natively.
One issue: simple control get killed by system memory cleaner using the recent button while clearing all task. Will need to wait for about 20s for simple control to work again.
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One more argument to use gravitybox pie feature. It is not killed by systems taskmanager! And well, there's only an overlay if you trigger the pie.
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flywithme said:
Thank you so much
After testing :
Apps now run 17:9 natively.
One issue: simple control get killed by system memory cleaner using the recent button while clearing all task. Will need to wait for about 20s for simple control to work again.
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White list it and you won't have this problem. At least not with floating menu, mine is not getting killed even if I press X to clear all.
There is also the exposed method if you really can't get it to work
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White list it and you won't have this problem. At least not with floating menu, mine is not getting killed even if I press X to clear all.
There is also the exposed method if you really can't get it to work
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One more argument to use gravitybox pie feature. It is not killed by systems taskmanager! And well, there's only an overlay if you trigger the pie.
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One thing I like about simple control over the rest is that I can set a delay before it disappears. I can do operation like double back easily to exit some app which require it. The app is also more simple and elegant to use compare to floating menu.
@wu5262 how do I use the exposed methods?