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[Q] Upgrade Available - Rooting possible?

Mine says the upgrade to 4.5.141 is available to download. My Atrix is rooted with locked bootloader, I presuming I am going to lose root with the upgrade.
If so, what rooting method will work?
Thanks for your help.
PS: Will this worK?
https://market.android.com/details?id=org.projectvoodoo.otarootkeeper

charlyee said:
Mine says the upgrade to 4.5.141 is available to download. My Atrix is rooted with locked bootloader, I presuming I am going to lose root with the upgrade.
If so, what rooting method will work?
Thanks for your help.
PS: Will this worK?
https://market.android.com/details?id=org.projectvoodoo.otarootkeeper
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Just unlock your bootloader and flash a new ROM on your phone. Most of the ROMs available for our phone have that update or better already on the ROM.
Sent from Neutrino, a planet far, far away...

cwburns32 said:
Just unlock your bootloader and flash a new ROM on your phone. Most of the ROMs available for our phone have that update or better already on the ROM.
Sent from Neutrino, a planet far, far away...
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Thanks, but I don't want to take the route of custom ROMs, sorry.

I had to unlock my bootloader first using RSDlite and the small .sbf file (pudding.rar) Click here to download
My bootloader was supposed to be already unlocked but I guess the updated firmware didn't realize it. I couldn't run fastboot flash without getting an error
I then rooted by flashing preinstall.img and running commands to install the superuser binary and .apk. Instructions here
I don't know of a way to root 4.5.141 without unlocking the bootloader first. If you find a way let me know

http://briefmobile.com/motorola-atrix-4g-root should work.

lauterm said:
http://briefmobile.com/motorola-atrix-4g-root should work.
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Same thing I used... different source. Still it requires an unlocked bootloader to flash images.
I believe the OP is looking for a root option that will work with a locked bootloader.

charlyee said:
Thanks, but I don't want to take the route of custom ROMs, sorry.
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Just wondering.. Why not? ;o

nthon9 said:
Just wondering.. Why not? ;o
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It's kind of a "Been there, done that" kind of thing from my Win Mob days. lol
I am pefectly happy with stock Atrix ROMs, and just want to be able to retain root or re root to use a couple of apps like Titanium Backup.

Has anyone with an unlocked bootloader/rooted Atrix tried the update?
I like to stick with the stock rom for now but I haven't found directions for updating to 141 yet. I'd like to keep root and not hard brick my Atrix...After the 2nd time Moto might get suspicious

I wasn't able to use the OTA updates once I rooted (even before I unlocked my bootloader). Of course, that could be Bell building in a check. I even tried unrooting (using GingerBreak) and that still wouldn't allow me to use an OTA update.
I would think you'll have to root, unlock bootloader, and then flash an firmware file from this tread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1125944.

Actually, you're right in that the OTA update will probably fail without me going to a more "out of the box" state. I suppose I'd have to first create a nandroid, a titanium backup then flash my phone with a 4.5.91 stock image using fastboot, do the OTA, then re-root, and restore the titanium backup to get back to where I was. And if anything fails restore from my nandroid.
Does that sound right?

I've heard there could be issues relating to going back to a locked bootloader file. So I'm not sure on specifics there. I just run CyanogenMod to avoid all that stuff.

penderway said:
Same thing I used... different source. Still it requires an unlocked bootloader to flash images.
I believe the OP is looking for a root option that will work with a locked bootloader.
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preinstall fastboot method works on a locked bootloader...at least it does for me (locked, rooted and on 141).

gnahc79 said:
preinstall fastboot method works on a locked bootloader...at least it does for me (locked, rooted and on 141).
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So...in fastboot mode, you were able to run fastboot flash preinstall preinstall.img and thus successfully create the "preinstall\" partition with the necessary files on your phone without getting an error message???
My bootloader was unlocked long ago but I still couldn't flash the preinstall partition without running the pudding unlock .sbf first. Idk

I wasn't even able to boot into fastboot without unlocking the bootloader first.

penderway said:
So...in fastboot mode, you were able to run fastboot flash preinstall preinstall.img and thus successfully create the "preinstall\" partition with the necessary files on your phone without getting an error message???
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yep, followed all of the steps and every one is successful. I'm very risk-averse when it comes to messing with my phone, so I've never unlocked my phone. Only root.

I love how no one is answering your question just telling you to unlock your bootloader...

I downloaded the ota update, installed and got failed to boot 4 starting rsd node.. i had unlocked bootloader before update help please!! I pulled the battery for now.

gnahc79 said:
yep, followed all of the steps and every one is successful. I'm very risk-averse when it comes to messing with my phone, so I've never unlocked my phone. Only root.
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Well then, that settles it. The OP (who also doesn't have an unlocked bootloader) should be able to do the same.

gnahc79 said:
yep, followed all of the steps and every one is successful. I'm very risk-averse when it comes to messing with my phone, so I've never unlocked my phone. Only root.
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Is there any way to get step by step instructions for this

New method to downgrade and root 183.46.15version of kitkat4.4.2 (for XT926 UNLOCKED)

This METHOD was developed ONLY for an UNLOCKED Motorola Droid Razr Maxx HD XT926m phone that is already updated to the last version of KitKat 4.4.2 (System version "183.46.15.XT926.Verizon.en.US").
IF YOU HAVE AN LOCKED BOOTLOADER AND TRY THIS METHOD IT WILL BE ONLY YOUR RESPONSABILITY IF YOU DAMAGE YOUR PHONE !!!
My Motorola XT926m had an UNLOCKED BOOTLOADER (ICS 4.0.4) and I flashed via RSD Lite the last stock firmware, "183.46.15"... After that, I was, of course, unhappy, because I read on different forums that this firmware version didn't support root... I tried to download the Hydrogen Peroxide xt926 application that others users recommended here on XDA forum, without success.
But now, after I applied this method, my phone is again rooted... Enjoy the steps, but be carefull, it was developed for XT926 phones with UNLOCKED BOOTLOADER!
1. Download the files "VZW_XT926_4.4.2-KDA20.62-10.1_CFC_1FF.xml" and "VZW_XT926_4.4.2-KDA20.62-15.1_CFC_1FF.xml" from the Motorola firmware site: "motofirmware.com/files/file/"...
2. Unpack the files...
3. Substitute/replace the "gpt", "tz" files (FROM the folder with "15.1" version TO the folder with "10.1" version)... You should replace all the files that "RSD Lite" will tell you that don't fit when you try to flash the new stock firmware. You will obtain a MODIFIED version of "183.46.10" stock KitKAt 4.4.2 firmware!!!
4. Flash this MODIFIED "10.1" firmware with "RSD Lite v6.1.5 Multi-Flash" (without using Rsd Script Generator.jar), but don't forget to remove the first two 'getvar' lines in the xml file.
5. Download and install the "Towel Root.apk" and root the phone...
6. Now your phone should be ROOTED.
What to do NEXT:
7.Download from the Play Store and install "Superuser.apk" made by ClockWordMode and after reboot the application will ask you to update SU binary. In my case, the SU binary didn't support an online update and I installed the "Superuser.zip" file downloaded from the ClockWorkMode site, via recovery method, in order to gain this update (you can do this as well, if you already have a TWRP or CWM recovery installed on your phone). With the other version of superuser, like "SuperSU.apk" or "Superuser.apk" ("eu.chainfire.supersu-2.apk", the last version, 5.6mb, for example) you will need to follow the same steps...
8. Using "Total Commander.apk", you can go to "File System root"/"Etc"/"installrecovery.sh", and finally rename this last file... Or you can use "ES3 File Explorer.apk" in order to rename the same "installrecovery.sh" file in "Device"/"Etc" folder (choose, for example, the name "installrecovery.shbak")...
9. Flash with "Flashify.apk" (downloaded form PLay Store) a new "recovery img.": "TWRP.img" (2.8.3.0) or "CWM.img" (6.0.4.8) for KitKat... You can find them on "rootjunkysdl.com/?device=Droid%20Razr%20HD&folder=Firmware"...
10. If you flashed "TWPR recovery.img" you will need to install "Stericson.busybox-1.apk" (from Play Store...), because TWRP works with this busy box... (You could install "TWRP.apk" as well, but you must be careful, because you will need to be able to boot into Recovery mode directly from your phone (with the combination key), not from this app... Many times, the phone is able to boot into recovery mode from TWRP application, but not from the bootloader... That's why it is better to uninstall TWRP application if you have this problem). If you flashed a "CWM.img" you can install "RomManager.apk".
11.Now it is the time to backup your system to SD card!
That's it. My phone was unlocked, and I didn't have any issue following all this steps... If you're locked don't try it.
But.. If you're locked you could instead use an application named 'Safestrap' for some purposes (read more here on XDA forum please), because is destinated for the phones with locked bootloader...

Hi ,
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jackeagle said:
Hi ,
Since this is a guide it does not belong to XDA Assist
Please Read The Purpose of XDA Assist
Please Standby when Moderators Move the Thread To Your Device Specific Forum
RAZR HD General
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THANKS!

I know you took a lot of time to write this up, but there is a downgrade method posted on here already. Also, there is no need to rename recovery.sh. All you need to do after flashing recovery is power off the phone and immediately boot straight back into recovery so the install script completes.
To answer your question, no, you can't unlock .15.

RikRong said:
I know you took a lot of time to write this up, but there is a downgrade method posted on here already. Also, there is no need to rename recovery.sh. All you need to do after flashing recovery is power off the phone and immediately boot straight back into recovery so the install script completes.
To answer your question, no, you can't unlock .15.
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Thank you, I wasn't able to find another downgrade method, could you give me the link, please?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2789743

But... to flash CWM or TWRP for update the binaries, you need to be bootloader unlocked... to flash a custom recovery...

joel_sinbad said:
But... to flash CWM or TWRP for update the binaries, you need to be bootloader unlocked... to flash a custom recovery...
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Correct. That's why this method is flawed and probably should be pulled before someone bricks their phone.

RikRong said:
Correct. That's why this method is flawed and probably should be pulled before someone bricks their phone.
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Yeah, unfortunately this post makes no sense, I mean, if you accidently flash the gpt.bin, you're screwed... and so many risks, plus, you can't flash custom recovery, and you can maybe downgrade the system and boot, but you still can't downgrade the bootloader...

joel_sinbad said:
Yeah, unfortunately this post makes no sense, I mean, if you accidently flash the gpt.bin, you're screwed... and so many risks, plus, you can't flash custom recovery, and you can maybe downgrade the system and boot, but you still can't downgrade the bootloader...
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This method is for an XT926 with UNLOCKED BOOTLOADER, with the last 183.46.15 update and the root access lost. I only described the steps that I already done with my phone. My Maxx HD is working and has root access again... I flashed custom recovery too (TWRP 2.8.3.0), I haven't any other problem.

RikRong said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2789743
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Thank you, unfortunately is not working for the xt 926 phone that already took the last 183.46.15 update:
"..........************WARNING*************
this guide only works completely if you did NOT take the 183.46.15 update rolling out around 9/9/14 .............".
Until now I don't have any other option, I'm forced to preserve the method that I mentioned in my thread.

ciprianv. said:
Thank you, unfortunately is not working for the xt 926 phone that already took the last 183.46.15 update:
"..........************WARNING*************
this guide only works completely if you did NOT take the 183.46.15 update rolling out around 9/9/14 .............".
Until now I don't have any other option, I'm forced to preserve the method that I mentioned in my thread.
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The piece you are referring to that doesn't work on .15 is the unlock and root. The downgrade should work on an unlocked phone.
That aside, your steps are very confusing and could easily cause a locked user to brick their phone. Please clarify or I will continue reporting this thread until it gets removed.

RikRong said:
The piece you are referring to that doesn't work on .15 is the unlock and root. The downgrade should work on an unlocked phone.
That aside, your steps are very confusing and could easily cause a locked user to brick their phone. Please clarify or I will continue reporting this thread until it gets removed.
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I just edited the post. I clearly specified that this methid is ONLY FOR UNLOCKED BOOTLOADERS (XT926M).

ciprianv. said:
I just edited the post. I clearly specified that this methid is ONLY FOR UNLOCKED BOOTLOADERS (XT926M).
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Thanks for doing that, I just want to make sure no one messes up their phone.

trying to install twrp with odin

I have a verizon note 4, I have unlock bootloader and using kingo root to root. I am trying to install twrp with odin, odin wants a tar file, the twrp file for this phone is an .img file. How do I get twrp installed?
thanks!

I recommend rooting with CF-Auto Root
& btw, Latest .tar twrp for N4 Verizon is here : https://dl.twrp.me/trltevzw/twrp-2.8.7.0-trltevzw.img.tar.html

doox00 said:
I have a verizon note 4, I have unlock bootloader and using kingo root to root. I am trying to install twrp with odin, odin wants a tar file, the twrp file for this phone is an .img file. How do I get twrp installed?
thanks!
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was this a developer phone or the retail version? Thanks

mva1985 said:
was this a developer phone or the retail version? Thanks
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Hey, I already have gotten it figured out, thanks though!

doox00 said:
Hey, I already have gotten it figured out, thanks though!
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Kinda asking for my benefit..... I have a Verizon retail Note 4 and I have yet been able to root it.

mva1985 said:
Kinda asking for my benefit..... I have a Verizon retail Note 4 and I have yet been able to root it.
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Ohh sorry, it was a verizon retail note 4. purchased about when they were released. I used the kingoroot method (PC one). It was a little quirky and would not always work, I would have to reboot phone, get it rooted using the app then follow the steps to continue on with unlocking the boot loader etc.

doox00 said:
Ohh sorry, it was a verizon retail note 4. purchased about when they were released. I used the kingoroot method (PC one). It was a little quirky and would not always work, I would have to reboot phone, get it rooted using the app then follow the steps to continue on with unlocking the boot loader etc.
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I'll have to give the PC one a shot. Nice to know it's worked for someone. I've really missed root.

can't update to marshmallow

Hello friends
My phone is HTC One m8w
There isn't "update" in
Setting
About
Android version,
5.0.1
Software number
1.0.0.m8w
Build number
4.19.1402.15 CL458284 release-keys
Please help me for this problem
How can I update my phone?
Thanks a lot

Hello, I experienced something similar- complete absence of system update! A little digging revealed that any modifications to the system partition would render the device un-updateable, so naturally I downloaded the complete marshmallow package update for my device, booted into standard recovery, and updated from sd card
Hope this helps

Ta3miyyasandwich said:
Hello, I experienced something similar- complete absence of system update! A little digging revealed that any modifications to the system partition would render the device un-updateable, so naturally I downloaded the complete marshmallow package update for my device, booted into standard recovery, and updated from sd card
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There isn't any update for my build number
Sent from my HTC_M9pw using Tapatalk

if you are willing to, just root your phone and flash the marshmallow rom on to your phone and use titanium backup to backup everything before you do so.

you can root your phone,flash twrp recovery,flash Marshmallow rom.

lmentor said:
you can root your phone,flash twrp recovery,flash Marshmallow rom.
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That's exactly what I just said

justinchao740 said:
if you are willing to, just root your phone and flash the marshmallow rom on to your phone
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You don't need root to install TWRP, nor to install a custom ROM.
Exception is Verizon, where you need root to s-off, and then unlock bootloader; as bootloader unlock by HTCDev.com is not supported for that version alone.

redpoint73 said:
You don't need root to install TWRP, nor to install a custom ROM.
Exception is Verizon, where you need root to s-off, and then unlock bootloader; as bootloader unlock by HTCDev.com is not supported for that version alone.
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If you get bootloader unlocked, you basically rooted your device cause now you are allowed to modify the system data and make modification that can result in unusable phone. Plus if you are willing to take the risk of unlocking your bootloader, why don't you just root anyways, its just a matter of flashing super su zip.

justinchao740 said:
If you get bootloader unlocked, you basically rooted your device cause now you are allowed to modify the system data and make modification that can result in unusable phone .
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No, you didn't. Root is a very specific thing. You either have root (SU) priviledge, or you don't. Unlocked bootloader does not give you root privilege. It only allows you to flash unsigned zips to certain partitions.
justinchao740 said:
Plus if you are willing to take the risk of unlocking your bootloader, why don't you just root anyways, its just a matter of flashing super su zip.
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Because it would be a wasted step (completely unnecessary), if you are going to flash a custom ROM.

redpoint73 said:
No, you didn't. Root is a very specific thing. You either have root (SU) priviledge, or you don't. Unlocked bootloader does not give you root privilege. It only allows you to flash unsigned zips to certain partitions.
Because it would be a wasted step (completely unnecessary), if you are going to flash a custom ROM.
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Think of it this way. If you flashed a cm ROM without root in the first place, you would get root. I'm not saying unlocking bootloader immediately give you root access but it allows almost anything that you flash to have root access

justinchao740 said:
Think of it this way. If you flashed a cm ROM without root in the first place, you would get root. I'm not saying unlocking bootloader immediately give you root access but it allows almost anything that you flash to have root access
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Some folks keep incorrectly stating that you need root to flash custom recovery on this device (on some devices, you do - but not this one). I'm just trying to make sure that misinformation doesn't keep getting conveyed (the post after yours said it, too).
Stating the process precisely, is the best way to do that.

redpoint73 said:
Some folks keep incorrectly stating that you need root to flash custom recovery on this device (on some devices, you do - but not this one). I'm just trying to make sure that misinformation doesn't keep getting conveyed (the post after yours said it, too).
Stating the process precisely, is the best way to do that.
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Agreed plus my post never stated anything about rooting.

justinchao740 said:
Agreed plus my post never stated anything about rooting.
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While my intent is not to be the guy that always has the last word; I also can't let you state a complete falsehood.
justinchao740 said:
if you are willing to, just root your phone and flash the marshmallow rom
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Need help please

i was following a tutorial on upating my Moto g4 Plus to the newest Marshmallow version in order to flash the nougat ota, but as i was trying to flash the mm version it started saying it couldnt downgrade a security patch and now my phone will only boot up into bootloader mode, i need help in fixing this

PocketGorgon said:
i was following a tutorial on upating my Moto g4 Plus to the newest Marshmallow version in order to flash the nougat ota, but as i was trying to flash the mm version it started saying it couldnt downgrade a security patch and now my phone will only boot up into bootloader mode, i need help in fixing this
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I'm too!

PocketGorgon said:
i was following a tutorial on upating my Moto g4 Plus to the newest Marshmallow version in order to flash the nougat ota, but as i was trying to flash the mm version it started saying it couldnt downgrade a security patch and now my phone will only boot up into bootloader mode, i need help in fixing this
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Please read the post carefully before typing in any stupid commands that can screw up your phone.
Follow instructions EXACTLY as mentioned in this post.
The reason you are getting a “security downgrade” error is because you are trying to downgrade your bootloader, or GPT partitions. You cannot do that on the device.

need help
i was running the soak test build on xt1643 .Then I unlocked the bootloader and rooted it after that while formatting by mistake i wiped system partition now its saying no os installed and i cant flash the zip file of soak test either,please help me

aviralbajpai1 said:
i was running the soak test build on xt1643 .Then I unlocked the bootloader and rooted it after that while formatting by mistake i wiped system partition now its saying no os installed and i cant flash the zip file of soak test either,please help me
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Didn't you make backup...? First thing one should do is it....
You cannot flash official zip either soak or final by TWRP, you need stock recoveryfor that...
Now you can only do is flash stock via fastboot method (but you updated to soak it is not preferable)
Try this:
download any custom ROM from development, and load it to memory card, and flash it....

__Madddy said:
Didn't you make backup...? First thing one should do is it....
You cannot flash official zip either soak or final by TWRP, you need stock recoveryfor that...
Now you can only do is flash stock via fastboot method (but you updated to soak it is not preferable)
Try this:
download any custom ROM from development, and load it to memory card, and flash it....
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after i flash custom rom can i move back to stock rom by any means?

aviralbajpai1 said:
after i flash custom rom can i move back to stock rom by any means?
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Since you haven't made backup, you have to go with fastboot flashing... As you updated soak your bootloader is now updated with it, don't downgrade it.... You will see gpt and downgrade errors while flashing... I can't say anything more about it, i didn't try that.....
You can follow guides available, see in guide section...

__Madddy said:
Since you haven't made backup, you have to go with fastboot flashing... As you updated soak your bootloader is now updated with it, don't downgrade it.... You will see gpt and downgrade errors while flashing... I can't say anything more about it, i didn't try that.....
You can follow guides available, see in guide section...
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thank you very much the custom rom is working atleast i'll try to flash stock rom later

my bootloader isn't unlocked

PocketGorgon said:
my bootloader isn't unlocked
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unlocked bootloader is required as mentioned in this thread
Also follow to downgrade
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/guide-downgrade-to-marshmallow-nougat-t3515961

__Madddy said:
unlocked bootloader is required as mentioned in this thread
Also follow to downgrade
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/guide-downgrade-to-marshmallow-nougat-t3515961
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So if I want to fix my phone I need to wait for the official system images for Nougat? Since my bootloader is locked

PocketGorgon said:
So if I want to fix my phone I need to wait for the official system images for Nougat? Since my bootloader is locked
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I'm thinking same, That will be better..