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hi guys
new to the forum, hopefully someone will be able to help me
my unit has stock MTCC-KLD6-V2.97 Aug 02 2016 with a RK3188 and 1024x600 screen
Firstly the Bluetooth is not working, quite a lot of apps hang at the part where it try's to turn the BT on, especially one app i really need to work.
I honestly don't know what model of BT chip is installed in the head unit, apparently its BT 4.0 as listed on there website
I have been into the factory menu and changed the BT from WQ_BC6 to WQ_BC6B (as suggested somewhere in this forum) but it has made no change and the BT is still hanging at powering on.
Eonon have told me that the Bluetooth only work with devices that don't require a pin and the radar detector device i need to connect does not require a pin but still it does not work.
Not quite sure if eonon has set the setting wrong and i need to change it or i need to goto a custom rom or I need to pull the unit apart to find out.
Found someone else having trouble getting there ALPconnect app to work aswell on these units, in know ALPconnect wont work on older unit like the 4.4.4 as they only had BT 2.0 and the ALP BT only supports 4.0, but this android unit has 4.0 so it should not be a problem but it is.
sterod said:
The app I use, ALPConnect, does the exact same thing. Fortunately, the hardware on mine includes a hardwired speaker and GPS setup that work standalone. The benefit of the app was to get a nice big visual notification of a trap, as it would come into focus, duck the audio and play an alarm. It would also report the frequency of the radar and the type of laser hitting me. While I can get by without all that, I can't have the music blaring like I usually do, as the little speaker is only so loud and the Joying head unit doesn't have Mute Input wire to duck the audio.
While this is going slightly off topic, you may want to look into the AL Priority, it can interface with your V1 too and you will also gain laser protection. This thing has saved my a** countless times and paid for itself already many times over.
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Secondly the control menu in the android head unit for accessing the cars buttons via cambus does not work, all steering wheels button seem to communicate back and work, but i cannot set my clock on my mazda 3.
Also have noticed that the radio wont mute when notification occur or when using other apps like google maps, no way to set the different volumes in this stock rom. Have played around with the factory menu volumes but it makes no diffidence.
Is it viable and worth changing to a different ROM, like Malaysk? or should i message eonon?
any help would be much appreciated
thanks
shane
I'm having exactly the same issue with a Pumpkin MTCC-KLD6-V2.91. (RK3188/1024x600)
The device I want to pair with appears in Bluetooth settings (with a phone icon?) but connecting to it does nothing. It's just a Bluetooth SPP device, like so many other devices.
Malaysk's ROM (from 7/25) doesn't change anything here.
Any suggestions would be most welcome.
-Zandr
zandrm said:
I'm having exactly the same issue with a Pumpkin MTCC-KLD6-V2.91. (RK3188/1024x600)
The device I want to pair with appears in Bluetooth settings (with a phone icon?) but connecting to it does nothing. It's just a Bluetooth SPP device, like so many other devices.
Malaysk's ROM (from 7/25) doesn't change anything here.
Any suggestions would be most welcome.
-Zandr
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Waiting on a reply from Eonon, but initial news is not good.
Some serious BT issues in this model the MTCC
Anyone know if any Malaysk's Rom's avalable for the MTCC-KLD6-V2.91 that have no BT issues
I'm having the same issue, though my unit (MTCC KLD6) does not show any devices at all to pair with, and the car unit does not appear on my phone.
I'm wondering - if I take a usb BT dongle and attach it to the usb cable, would that work?
I think it might be another issue with your BT, it should connect to your phone at very least.
Have you had a look in your factory menu to see if the MCU has the Bluetooth option set?
Password for me was 126
Unfortunately the unit does not support external USB Bluetooth and probably never will, unless the manufacturer MTC/Klyde adds the required drivers to the unit or a Awesome developer by some stroke of luck here adds it to the unit. I doubt to see the feature in this unit
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Thanks for the reply. Yes, i checked to make sure Bluetooth was enabled in the system settings. I've tried a few of them (change setting, reboot, attempt pairing), i guess the next step is to try them all one by one to rule that out. I've sent an email to the seller to see if they have any ideas.
The vendor told me to connect the Key-1 & Key-2 wires from the canbus to the car, not sure why they'd think that would solve BT issues?
Did this fix the issue? I'm unable to see any Bluetooth devices and other Bluetooth devices don't see it.
Sorry to dig up an old thread
I have the Eonon GA2180a (android 10) - and having similar issues to here
I want to pair a bluetooth remote (read, steering wheel controls) to the head unit, but the bluetooth search just shows blank! I can connect to it using my phone but it appears some things are hidden to connect to with these android units? Looks like the bluetooth 'app' is the only way to connect too, theres nothing in the android settings to access a bluetooth menu or anything.
Did anyone get anywhere with this ?
cheers
Hello xda people!
I recently purchased an eonon head unit for my E46 316i from ebay. Specifically a GA6150 (rk3188), which was sold together with a reverse camera.
I am really happy with my order, and pleased with the HU's performance. I managed to connect succesfully my OBD adapter, my bluetooth phone and my wifi hotspot and all is working great.!
Although, I found out something which bothers me. I have purchased a Bluetooth RGB LED controller from ebay, in order to DIY install some LEDs in the interior of the car, and I wanted to control them from my eonon android HU. I can control them through my S7 Edge Android phone via the app called Happy Lighting. I have found out that the manufacturer of these controllers is called Triones. So my problem is, that when I open the app, it asks me to turn on the bluetooth, and allows me to press one of two buttons, allow and deny. If I press allow, a message will appear saying: "Turning on Bluetooth" or something like that, with a spinning wheel, indefinately. It will not stop and it will stay like this all the time, making the app useless, making me press home button to exit. All this happens, even though I know that bluetooth is actually on (I havent yet found an on/off switch for Bluetooth, so I suppose it is always on). If I press deny, then I can enter the app, but I am not able to see any of the bluetooth controllers, is there any way, to make the app think that the bluetooth is on? Or actually turn it off or anything? Would you please help me figure out what should I do? And one last question, is how can I change my screen orientation from landscape to portrait?
I will attach a photo of the details for the version of my Head Unit.
This is the link of the HU I purchased from ebay: http://r.ebay.com/aegMSa
And this is the link to the controller: http://r.ebay.com/aDfflI
While this is the app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.qh.Happylightgoogle&hl=en
Thank you very mych for your time!
Yep had 3 Paypal disputes with Eonon about that issue a year ago on a MTCB unit, I would imagine it would be the same with the MTCD
I think they route all Bluetooth information through the MCU and use non standard configuration of their Bluetooth drivers. So applications that ask to turn the BT on cannot as it is not configured that way.
This is something they were not willing to fix or were unable to.
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First of all thank you for your reply, i really appreciate it.!
Second, damn it. Damn them! That is really frustrating, i've managed to find a bit more info digging around here and in russian forums. It's sad that i cannot use anything else via bluetooth other than a few OBD adapters and my phone..
I will shortly contact Eonon for my MCU update file and see if anything can be done there. Otherwise, i will see if anything can be fixed via a custom rom and xposed stuff.
P.S.: If there was any other android HU that could support full BT, i would gladly return my Eonon and buy that instead..
DeejayTelis said:
First of all thank you for your reply, i really appreciate it.!
Second, damn it. Damn them! That is really frustrating, i've managed to find a bit more info digging around here and in russian forums. It's sad that i cannot use anything else via bluetooth other than a few OBD adapters and my phone..
I will shortly contact Eonon for my MCU update file and see if anything can be done there. Otherwise, i will see if anything can be fixed via a custom rom and xposed stuff.
P.S.: If there was any other android HU that could support full BT, i would gladly return my Eonon and buy that instead..
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Joying intel Sofia units is a bit better with the BT, but do some research first.
Good luck with Eonon
From memory it to do with kernel drivers and BT stack and they would not fix
Also be careful with Eonon and returns, additionally PayPal protection does not cover car audio products.
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shanetrainST said:
Joying intel Sofia units is a bit better with the BT, but do some research first.
Good luck with Eonon
From memory it to do with kernel drivers and BT stack and they would not fix
Also be careful with Eonon and returns, additionally PayPal protection does not cover car audio products.
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Digging up an old thread
I would like to connect bluetooth accessories to my eonon new android 10 head unit (2020) - the above looks familiar as i cannot seem to 'find' the devices when searched for using the strange bluetooth 'app'.
Is there anything that can be done? I'd like to add a bluetooth remote (alternatiev to steering wheel controls) - but its not detected by the HU
Hi All,
Recently purchased and installed a Joying head unit (4GB, PX5 Octa Core) (link to product)
As this head unit runs android I am trying to tether the mobile data on my android mobile over to the head unit via the bluetooth tethering function. Problem is I dont think its working. Does anyone have any experience with this or know how to get it working?
Steps:
On the mobile, make sure its connected to mobile data
On mobile, turn on bluetooth tethering
Pair mobile and head unit via bluetooth
Still no internet access
Can you access data via hot spot? Make you mobile device a wifi hotspot and connect the headunit to your hotspot.
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chper said:
Can you access data via hot spot? Make you mobile device a wifi hotspot and connect the headunit to your hotspot.
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Yeah I tried this and it works fine. I just though it be better to use bluetooth tethering seeing as the phone is already hooked up to the head unit via bluetooth. Using the WiFi hot spot option just adds another process to the mix.
Because Joying remove a lot of the standard android setting I was thinking there might be a way to access the default android settings again to be able to play around with bluetooth properly. While writing this thread up however I did email Joying about the ability to bluetooth tether and their response was:
"Our head unit can not support Bluetooth tethering"
Hi, I am trying to achieve the same solution however I do not think it's possible. My understanding is that the bluetooth connectivity allowed by the hardware in the head units doesn't cater for the 'full stack' of bluetooth functions, so we're stuck with telephony and audio only with no data transfer.
I would *really* love to be corrected though! It would be great if it could be solved by software alone.
Failing that, could a bluetooth USB dongle work to provide full BT support?
proto__ said:
Hi, I am trying to achieve the same solution however I do not think it's possible. My understanding is that the bluetooth connectivity allowed by the hardware in the head units doesn't cater for the 'full stack' of bluetooth functions, so we're stuck with telephony and audio only with no data transfer.
I would *really* love to be corrected though! It would be great if it could be solved by software alone.
Failing that, could a bluetooth USB dongle work to provide full BT support?
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I consider this a bug. It did work on the Sofia 3GR units on Android 6.0.1.
It (currently) does not work on the Android 8 PX5 FYT units (like the OP has as well). Can't say anything about the QD units.
Well that gives me some hope at least.
I did note at least 3 'Bluetooth' apps running on my device (that I've been playing with since my previous post).
Perhaps a custom mod may be the answer...
Sorry proto, I've had about five units and all the same. You're right and it sucks. I don't think it's a big as I've come across it many times and only in a few eBay postings did the seller actually specify it has a general bluetooth connection. Otherwise toy even have to buy their obd to get that to work
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Ok thanks for the replies. Hopefully it will be fixed with a firmware update in the future or something.
Is there are any news about this Bluetooth tethering?
I am really interested because my WiFi is really really slow...
I saw that some Bluetooth function are missing, like the possibility to remove paired device or select Bluetooth tethering.
It’s highly unlikely Joying will fix the Bluetooth, they would need to produce a seperate rom with normal BT configured and u would not have access to the Joying BT app.
Currently Joying route all Bluetooth communication via a service called btlink, from there it goes to the joying bluetooth app.
Joying have fundamentally changed the way the Bluetooth is configured so it functions with only their software.
All these headunit manufactures do this to the BT so it functions with their software and they never offer a fix
shanetrainST said:
It’s highly unlikely Joying will fix the Bluetooth, they would need to produce a seperate rom with normal BT configured and u would not have access to the Joying BT app.
Currently Joying route all Bluetooth communication via a service called btlink, from there it goes to the joying bluetooth app.
Joying have fundamentally changed the way the Bluetooth is configured so it functions with only their software.
All these headunit manufactures do this to the BT so it functions with their software and they never offer a fix
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From which library/framework/binary/whatever is this btlink service started/called?
surfer63 said:
I consider this a bug. It did work on the Sofia 3GR units on Android 6.0.1.
It (currently) does not work on the Android 8 PX5 FYT units (like the OP has as well). Can't say anything about the QD units.
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Remember that it only worked with a HACK. Joying intentionally disables this functionality.
Bluetooth information
Init.sy.rc
Service blink /vendor/bin/blink
Init.connectivity.rc
Chmod 0666 /dev/tty (This should be tty00)
Now I have modified mine but I think the system/vendor/ect/Bluetooth/bt_vendor.conf is set to
- UartPort = /dev/tty00
Blink is interacting with /dev/tty
Android system is interacting with /dev/tty00 ?
Hopefully all the information is correct as I have modified my unit lots to try give back the Bluetooth to the system and I didn’t keep many notes.
But in short the the system is trying to access the Bluetooth on the wrong Uart port, where as the blink is attaching to the tty device, allowing the joying software to work.
This prevent the android system & apps interacting with the Bluetooth.
Also this is the test app I have been using to try to get it to allow permissions to turn BT on, but it get denied every time
Bluetooth Discovery : Bluetooth LE Scanner
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.manjul.bluetoothsdp
i have the 10.1 american version.
if i remember correctly, bluetooth has an issue when your using it as a "media" access point
i think the bluetooth is set for A2DP... probably physically somehow.
shanetrainST said:
Init.sy.rc
Service blink /vendor/bin/blink
Blink is interacting with /dev/tty
Android system is interacting with /dev/tty00 ?
Also this is the test app I have been using to try to get it to allow permissions to turn BT on, but it get denied every time
Bluetooth Discovery : Bluetooth LE Scanner
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.manjul.bluetoothsdp
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Did you try to create a symlink like
Code:
ln -s /dev/tty /dev/tty00
And is it indeed tty00 or tty0?
Did you give the scanner root access?
Bumping this for a slightly odder issue. I'm trying to connect my Joying stereo to a Hondata KPro ECU, it sees the ECU but refuses to link to it in settings, rendering apps like Hondata or RealDash useless, so in turn I'm using a crappy $20 tablet until someone can show how to fix this BT issue.
Joying was no help other than to tell me to buy their OBDII adapter, which I did, but LONG story this is a 2008 Honda engine in a 91 MR2 that has no OBDII port. I've bought an OBDII port off eBay and tried using pinouts from the ECU to hack together an OBDII port but no luck.
Having it via Bluetooth would be easier, it sees the KPro, so there must be a way.
same problem
dont buy this joying head unit
its rabish
Hey guys so I have an Alfa 159 and bought one of these head units:
Edit i cannot post a link however its the generic A-media Auto alfa 159 head unit which can be found on google
now I was speaking with a friend of mine who explained that the roms are "cut back" and removes some features and full blurtooth control/ support is one of them
I am reasonably ok with computers but never ventrued into any sort of custom android stuff and the extend of my knowledge is " i know you can get custom roms" i hdon't know how to do them or use them etc.
I have some bluetooth modules i can control from my phone in the car (lighting and actuators) but would love to be able to do it from the head unit
Would it be possible to get a custom rom for this head unit and if so any guides at all?
I would like to point i did have a search but honestly i am not totally sure what I am searching for and searching sepcifically for this head unit didnt help.
Thank yoiu very much
It's not so much that the ROM removed bluetooth features as much as it is how the bluetooth module is integrated to the HU. There's 2 system boards that make up the HU. The SoM has the Android system and is basically a tablet motherboard with only a display, audio and USB connection. The MCU provides a USB hub, audio preamp and power amp, connectivity to the car and the bluetooth module. The bluetooth module is treated as a headset controlled through a serial connection with AT commands and this is where the problem lies with using bluetooth with any apps other than the built in ones. It works for ODB dongles so it is possible but if the functionality you're looking for is not already implemented I doubt someone else would be able to add it to the MCU ROM. All I can say is try and see if it works.
Maybe you can try to connect a USB bluetooth dongle the issue here would be Android drivers.
nic2k said:
It's not so much that the ROM removed bluetooth features as much as it is how the bluetooth module is integrated to the HU. There's 2 system boards that make up the HU. The SoM has the Android system and is basically a tablet motherboard with only a display, audio and USB connection. The MCU provides a USB hub, audio preamp and power amp, connectivity to the car and the bluetooth module. The bluetooth module is treated as a headset controlled through a serial connection with AT commands and this is where the problem lies with using bluetooth with any apps other than the built in ones. It works for ODB dongles so it is possible but if the functionality you're looking for is not already implemented I doubt someone else would be able to add it to the MCU ROM. All I can say is try and see if it works.
Maybe you can try to connect a USB bluetooth dongle the issue here would be Android drivers.
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Thank you, sorry for late reply.
A friend of mine figured out with his that it was "nuked" in the software allegadly. the bluetooth module is a generic module but unfortunatly I am not massivly clued up on reflashing roms or even where to start especially on a head unit which is a shame.
My friend unfortunatly has since moved country so I can no longer ask him to take a look
I don't suppose anyone else might have an idea to this?
this comes up often apparently nobody give f*ckall to address this issue.
^ Thats a real shame
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^ Thats a real shame
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i know, my radio is great, does everything great. I just want to connect bt to my ham radio and use this as the head unit. and I was thinking about using those bluetooth valve stems so i can see the air pressures in my tires, looks like those wont work either.
ChiefWilNel said:
this comes up often apparently nobody give f*ckall to address this issue.
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Have you considered that these units work for the intended use and if it doesn't work for some obscure use case the desire to solve a problem for single users is limited. To expect others work on an obscure problem for you seems a bit entitled.
Have you considered taking the lead on this issue.
Bumping to see if ANYONE has came up with a solution, maybe an external dongle?
Hi, does anyone know how to disable ksw Bluetooth? I can only add phone using their overlay tool, the android native built in Bluetooth is disabled and blocked by kswcarproject.
My goal is to add an Xbox gaming controller , I would rather use the native android Bluetooth settings if I can or unlock ksw BT to allow any device to connect to the HU. With ksw BT I have tried both pin code 0000 and 1234 without success, the error message I get is paring failed or rejected.
thanks !!
am I the only one having this issue to pair a non phone device to android Head unit ? There must be someone else who solved this.
I think it's more the opposite, all these headunits are crippled around the BT and only support phones and some OBD2 devices. Not sure anyone has a solution outside of totally custom firmware.
getting access to setting is not the issue, that's simple enough, it's that the BT is crippled at lower level.
gottahavit said:
I think it's more the opposite, all these headunits are crippled around the BT and only support phones and some OBD2 devices. Not sure anyone has a solution outside of totally custom firmware.
getting access to setting is not the issue, that's simple enough, it's that the BT is crippled at lower level.
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here is what my tests show. If I restart the unit and quickly get into applications and terminate running applications kswcarproject and ksw BT, I get around 1 minute to enable Bluetooth in android and I can search for devices, I find my Bluetooth devices but somehow kswcarproject or any other service is deactivating native Bluetooth and I don’t have enough time to pair any unit. However this is evidence that the technology is capable, we just need to investigate how to disable services or whatever task that is forcing native bluetooth off after reboot. But I do not have knowledge in android infrastructure , but I can help in running tests and dig out logs
You can install default android settings or launchers like CarWebGuru or Nova give you these settings, there you get full BT settings, scan, probably even pair your device, but it won't connect and work. I found this on my IDoing UIS7862(FYT). BT is crippled. I believe they have done the same with 4g SIM connections.
It does work here is the evidence that it works:
And how to do it:
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Bluetooth is, yes, “crippled” after the device is completely booted up. So we just need to identify what service is blocking or crippling Bluetooth.
Hello guys,
I recently purchased a car that has the Qualcomm snapdragon 625 msm8953 NBT headunit for BMW 7 series (Native Android 10 unit).
I have tried everything to connect carplay but Zlink keeps saying waiting and won't take my iPhone.
I have read online that i need to update the firmware of the device, the version I have is KSW-Q-Userdebug_OS_v2.0.0.
Can someone please tell me where i can find the firmware update for free.
Thank you,