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Nonresponsive S4 - no solutions found online

Hey
My phone was fully charged the other day. I got arrested and when I got my phone out of evidence it was dead and wouldn't turn on. I didn't think it was low enough battery to have died completely as to not turn on... so I took it home and plugged into my wall charger, no response, no vibration. Plugged into PC and it makes the traditional sound when a USB device is recognize but it doesn't show up in the drive list and doesn't charge.
I've tried doing a factory reset, tried smacking my phone around to jostle a jammed power button, tried pushing all sorts of combinations of buttons, tried different chargers, tried jamming my S3 battery in there in an odd enough angle to have it connect (someone said he got this to work)
nothing.
any help would be much appreciated.

When the battery is inserted the circuit is closed and power goes through the phone. Having no battery means the circuit is open. That's why it won't charge without a battery.
Now, my point is: Does it actually charge with the S3 battery?

GDReaper said:
When the battery is inserted the circuit is closed and power goes through the phone. Having no battery means the circuit is open. That's why it won't charge without a battery.
Now, my point is: Does it actually charge with the S3 battery?
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Huh? I haven't tried charging it with a battery, and no it doesn't charge with an S3 battery. sorry did I word my post in a way that said I was trying to charge it with no battery?

No. But we will take it on an exclussion method. You know, eliminate every other possibility.
Now, I suggest you get an actual battery that fits. You don't have to buy one, it's just for the sake of being 100% sure it is not the battery.
How exactly did you try to factory reset it if it doesn't respond?

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No. But we will take it on an exclussion method. You know, eliminate every other possibility.
Now, I suggest you get an actual battery that fits. You don't have to buy one, it's just for the sake of being 100% sure it is not the battery.
How exactly did you try to factory reset it if it doesn't respond?
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I have a battery that fits. I'm sorry, I don't really understand what you're getting at. Unless you think I was trying to run an S4 on an S3 battery this whole time because I mentioned that I tried using an S3 battery as one of my alternative solutions?
Also, bump.

I know you have an S4 battery. But you have just one, right? That's why you tried the S3 battery, to eliminate the possibility of a broken battery.
But what I'm saying is that, since it's an S3 battery and won't perfectly fit, the possibility of a broken battery is not completely eliminated.

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I know you have an S4 battery. But you have just one, right? That's why you tried the S3 battery, to eliminate the possibility of a broken battery.
But what I'm saying is that, since it's an S3 battery and won't perfectly fit, the possibility of a broken battery is not completely eliminated.
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AH. Right, sorry. So phones are recognized by PCs even when their batteries are dead?
Damn. I'll try and find a friend with an S4. Definitely had issues with the battery prior to this, hopefully it's just a dead one.

New battery issues: can't calibrate, only boots via bootloader, won't complete reboot

Hi all, first time poster.
My Nexus 4 has been displaying behaving wacky. I've tried searching a ton, but can't find any posts with this collection of symptoms. Here's the story, please bear with me.
Two days ago I replaced the battery, left it charging all night, next morning it still would not boot. Every time I would just get the flashing red light. The only way it would boot was if I held volume down + power for 15 seconds, at which point inserting the micro USB cable would get the bootloader up. From there I could boot to android, but it would turn off as soon as I unplugged.
Charging it wirelessly made the battery hold charge, but still it would only boot if I did the 15-seconds-then-cable trick and chose "start" from the bootloader, or help volume Up +power. Simply holding the power button makes the phone vibrate three times and then show the flashing red light.
Once in Android, it would charge via USB and wireless. Debugging, etc. was also working. But if turned off, charging via USB gives the red light, and charging wirelessly doesn't show the white charging icon. Once back in Android, the battery indicator is all over the place, from 98% to 80% to 64%, back to 80%.I've tried calibrating, running the battery down and charging to full, but no change.
Now, every time I send a reboot command, from Android, fastboot, adb, bootloader, recovery, anywhere, the phone turns off but doesn't boot. I have to boot it manually.
At this point I went back to stock, using factory image (flash-all), and even during this I had to boot manually every time the script was <waiting for device>.
After a few more wipes and roms, I settled on Chroma (stock kernel, radio).
The system is running fine, but all the issues explained above persist.
Any ideas getting the battery to read properly? And what's with it only booting via bootloader or volume up + power. How about charging while off?
Thanks in advance for your help.

Sounds like the battery is defective or something went wrong during the battery replacement.
The red light flashing when connected to a charger indicates that the battery is fully discharged.

audit13 said:
Sounds like the battery is defective or something went wrong during the battery replacement.
The red light flashing when connected to a charger indicates that the battery is fully discharged.
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Thanks for the reply.
The phone charges (seemingly) normally when it's on, USB or wireless. But even at full battery, if I try to charge it via USB (computer or wall), I get the flashing light and no charge. Wireless works.
What could have gone wrong during replacement to cause this? Me actually messing up the hardware, shorting something?
My only option now seems to be buying another battery and testing whether it behaves differently.

Does the old battery work at all? If it does, you could try putting back the old battery.
Where did you get the replacement? I know that new oem replacement batteries are very difficult to obtain.

The old battery was totally shot. I bought the new one off of Amazon, but yeah total crap shoot if it's any good until you install it.
I'm just trying to rule out possible firmware and software issues before I gamble on another one.
So you think a dud battery could cause all of this stuff, from charging to booting issues?

Yup, I think it's is the battery. According to many people, the batteries on Amazon are not oem.

audit13 said:
Yup, I think it's is the battery. According to many people, the batteries on Amazon are not oem.
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So, I'm just going to return this one and try to get a legit OEM.
For those on the same boat as me: I contacted LG United States and they directed me to https://www.encompass.com/ for parts.
They were not able to find the battery based on phone information, so I gave them the code printed on the actual battery I removed, EAC61898601 LLL. The battery cost US$28 plus $8 shipping (not the $9 I paid on Amazon). It's currently on a 5-day back order, not terrible I suppose.
I'll update here when I've re-replaced the battery.

Hi @dreamsignals. Did you receive and install the battery? How did it go?
I'm at the point where I need a new battery too, and I'm hoping you found the real deal and the install went well.

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Hi @dreamsignals. Did you receive and install the battery? How did it go?
I'm at the point where I need a new battery too, and I'm hoping you found the real deal and the install went well.
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Still waiting for it to arrive. There seems to have been a delay. I'll update here.

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Still waiting for it to arrive. There seems to have been a delay. I'll update here.
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Sounds good. Finding and obtaining a legit battery for this phone is a bit of a monumental feat. Seems like installing it is the easy part in comparison

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Sounds good. Finding and obtaining a legit battery for this phone is a bit of a monumental feat. Seems like installing it is the easy part in comparison
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It seems you were totally right. I've got nowhere closer to getting a new battery that actually works. All dead-ends so far...

dreamsignals said:
It seems you were totally right. I've got nowhere closer to getting a new battery that actually works. All dead-ends so far...
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Much appreciated for the update. I haven't found a place to buy a battery yet either that I feel would be the real deal. Will report here if I do.

witnit said:
Much appreciated for the update. I haven't found a place to buy a battery yet either that I feel would be the real deal. Will report here if I do.
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Believe or not, the OEM I ordered the battery from back in November called me a couple of weeks back to say they finally had it in stock. Alas, it got lost on the way and never arrived. Waiting for a second shipment now. It's like a bad drawn-out joke, ha.
Anyways, it's back in stock if anybody is looking. I can't yet give feedback on whether it works. https://www.encompassparts.com/item/10742494/LG/EAC61898601/Rechargeable_Battery,lithium_P

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Believe or not, the OEM I ordered the battery from back in November called me a couple of weeks back to say they finally had it in stock. Alas, it got lost on the way and never arrived. Waiting for a second shipment now. It's like a bad drawn-out joke, ha.
Anyways, it's back in stock if anybody is looking. I can't yet give feedback on whether it works. https://www.encompassparts.com/item/10742494/LG/EAC61898601/Rechargeable_Battery,lithium_P
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We'll all be retirement age by the time these batteries arrive ; )

Maybe pin 2 battery connector broken. What is the battery temperature in ampere app ? When pin 2 broken not showing correct percentage and battery temperature. If can't read battery temperature or percentage correctly, phone can only boot via bootloader. Posibble you broken battery connector jack motherboard phone when disconnecting old battery. Or it's problem only new battery (inside battery or battery connector flex cable). Try to push battery connector by finger and hold, if percentage showing ok, you are broken pin 2 on motherboard phone and must been repair by professional. Watch this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssOsIbk8R-c

having the same problem with a battery I just got replaced. Wish I read here before installing a new one
Didn't knew that Nexus detects where is an original battery or not. I guess it's not. Damn....

dreamsignals said:
Believe or not, the OEM I ordered the battery from back in November called me a couple of weeks back to say they finally had it in stock. Alas, it got lost on the way and never arrived. Waiting for a second shipment now. It's like a bad drawn-out joke, ha.
Anyways, it's back in stock if anybody is looking. I can't yet give feedback on whether it works. https://www.encompassparts.com/item/10742494/LG/EAC61898601/Rechargeable_Battery,lithium_P
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Sorry to revive an old thread,
Did you ever recieve the battery? How is it? What's the date code on it?
I wonder if these batteries are re manufactured or pulled from recycled phones.

Zuk z1 not charging, heats up very hot.

So basically, the phone randomly stopped charging and when i had picked it up to see why it wasn't charging, it was really hot to the touch towards the top of the phone. Not sure what is going on. Tried different cables. Does the same thing when the phone is powered off. I just ordered a new Usb-C jack to replace the phone inside the phone. Maybe shorting of some sort... Any ideas?

Happened with me once, in my case it was draining after putting a charger. So, I let it discharged fully until it got switched off & then put a charger. It started charging normally.
Sent from my ZUK Z1 using Tapatalk

Tarsa said:
So basically, the phone randomly stopped charging and when i had picked it up to see why it wasn't charging, it was really hot to the touch towards the top of the phone. Not sure what is going on. Tried different cables. Does the same thing when the phone is powered off. I just ordered a new Usb-C jack to replace the phone inside the phone. Maybe shorting of some sort... Any ideas?
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Did you try with another adapter? Because then we can rule out the possibility of a short circuit.
And, you mean more hot then usual? Because it's a 2A charger it's sure to heat up the phone.
One more thing, if it's a short then there are possibilities of the surge protector getting burnt which is inside you phone. In that case, either, you'll have to replace the entire charging circuit board or maybe just the surge protector (It varies form brand to brand. Hope Zuk has a replaceable surge protector)

Well I tried various combos of power sources and cables. Nothing seems to work. It's been this way for a while. Now I'm just using a backup phone.

Tarsa said:
Well I tried various combos of power sources and cables. Nothing seems to work. It's been this way for a while. Now I'm just using a backup phone.
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Are you using a custom rom? Because once I was using Nuclearom i dont know what happened but after sometime I also got the same problem. So I Just flashed a different rom ( Mokee) and after that everything was fine.

Alwin123 said:
Are you using a custom rom? Because once I was using Nuclearom i dont know what happened but after sometime I also got the same problem. So I Just flashed a different rom ( Mokee) and after that everything was fine.
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I was on I believe cm13 nightlies. Unfortunately my phone is dead and can't charge/turn on. So I can't flash anything.

Tarsa said:
Well I tried various combos of power sources and cables. Nothing seems to work. It's been this way for a while. Now I'm just using a backup phone.
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The high voltage protector on your circuit board must have been damaged. Take it to a authorized personnel and get it replaced. Nothing else stands a chance and it cannot happen because of a software issue. If it was a software issue then it would be more like there won't be any indication that it's charging and battery percentage shown would be stuck but still the phone's battery will be charging and will stay powered on.

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The high voltage protector on your circuit board must have been damaged. Take it to a authorized personnel and get it replaced. Nothing else stands a chance and it cannot happen because of a software issue. If it was a software issue then it would be more like there won't be any indication that it's charging and battery percentage shown would be stuck but still the phone's battery will be charging and will stay powered on.
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You say it's on the circuit board. So what do I replace? The whole "motherboard"?

Tarsa said:
You say it's on the circuit board. So what do I replace? The whole "motherboard"?
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No, no! Your USB Type-C port will be attached to a separate circuit board. The board may also include a mic and maybe a speaker too. So there will be a switch just like a MCB for your house, which in case of high voltage will get get burnt and hence break the circuit. Now just replace that board. Or some manufacturers' design allows just the surge protector to be replaced (Which will save you a lot of bucks).

+∆bhijith said:
No, no! Your USB Type-C port will be attached to a separate circuit board. The board may also include a mic and maybe a speaker too. So there will be a switch just like a MCB for your house, which in case of high voltage will get get burnt and hence break the circuit. Now just replace that board. Or some manufacturers' design allows just the surge protector to be replaced (Which will save you a lot of bucks).
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So if I replace the part with the USB-C port it should fix the problem?

Tarsa said:
So if I replace the part with the USB-C port it should fix the problem?
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Yeah! But before you replace you can ask the technician to examine the board once. Just cross checking (It does no harm)

I like the way people can do trouble shouting at distance...let me look into my Cristal ball...yep yo will be fine!

Tarsa said:
So if I replace the part with the USB-C port it should fix the problem?
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Yes.... It's should

Alwin123 said:
Are you using a custom rom? Because once I was using Nuclearom i dont know what happened but after sometime I also got the same problem. So I Just flashed a different rom ( Mokee) and after that everything was fine.
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Is mokee a good rom brother? I have heard they provide update also. Is it true?
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tauseef555 said:
Is mokee a good rom brother? I have heard they provide update also. Is it true?
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Can any 1 tell me which is the best daily use rom for zuk z1 having good battery management and with battery saver or power saver option?

So did this solve the problem...i am asking since my wife phone just stopped charging...no led...
Have an old usbc charging port.. swicthed it but no luck with that. Had battery replaced..but still no luck..
Only could think about the motherboard..but the reason i require tk power up the phone now is for getti g the pictures off the phone...about 25 gb of pictures....
Still hoping i can salvage it...

Time for change
Tarsa said:
So basically, the phone randomly stopped charging and when i had picked it up to see why it wasn't charging, it was really hot to the touch towards the top of the phone. Not sure what is going on. Tried different cables. Does the same thing when the phone is powered off. I just ordered a new Usb-C jack to replace the phone inside the phone. Maybe shorting of some sort... Any ideas?
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Big Billion on Flipkart And Great Indian Sale on Amazon are on so i recommend you u to change your phone to poco f1.

There might be the problem with the port of mobile due to which it wont be able to charge up, or there can be some issues with battery as well.

won't power on after battery replacement

Hello,
I just replaced the battery with a new one on my old Nexus 4 and now after I got the red light blinking at power up and had to told power + volume down to turn it on the percentage of the battery is incorrect. Also at charge it will not go above 50%.
I am writing here after I read all sorts of problems with the phone after the battery replacement. I have also attached a screenshot showing how wrong the reading of the battery is. It often enters battery saving mode frequently and exits in a few seconds.
Basically it's like reading the Voltage wrong at different values.
Please if anyone can help me I would deeply appreciate it since I really like the way the phone works, even in 2017.
Found that I'm not the only one with this problem. So the phone has a check system to see if it's original or not.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/help/battery-issues-calibrate-boots-via-t3439321/page2

wonder if I install Lineage OS if this will still happen. I will post feedback.

confirmed it happens is TWRP as well. I even tried to disconnect and connect it again. Looks like this phone is dead.

natzy85 said:
confirmed it happens is TWRP as well. I even tried to disconnect and connect it again. Looks like this phone is dead.
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This clearly is a battery issue. It seems that you got a duplicate battery. From where did you buy it?
Nitin

nitin.chobhe said:
This clearly is a battery issue. It seems that you got a duplicate battery. From where did you buy it?
Nitin
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from a shop in Romania (a very good one that has all needed parts. The battery is identical to the one described in the replacement thread : https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/help/bulging-nexus-4-problem-battery-t3121956.
I don't think I can send it back thought. The battery is already glued to the phone now. Such a shame for the poor phone. I really had taken good care of it for all these years. Btw the phone now does not power on at all. I just get the red LED in the bottom and that's all. I can power it up by plugging in to an outlet, but the battery does not charge at all.

now it's behaving just like in this thread : https://forums.androidcentral.com/google-nexus-4/312151-solved-nexus-4-wont-turn-charge-3.html
Managed last night to get the charging phone icon appear but it showed 0% and I had it connected to my laptop.
I will try again tonight using an 220V outlet. Maybe the phone is not dead yet according to the forum above.

natzy85 said:
from a shop in Romania (a very good one that has all needed parts. The battery is identical to the one described in the replacement thread : https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/help/bulging-nexus-4-problem-battery-t3121956.
I don't think I can send it back thought. The battery is already glued to the phone now. Such a shame for the poor phone. I really had taken good care of it for all these years. Btw the phone now does not power on at all. I just get the red LED in the bottom and that's all. I can power it up by plugging in to an outlet, but the battery does not charge at all.
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That again shows that the problem is with the battery and not the phone or software. Don't you have LG service center where you can get the battery replaced?
Nitin

nitin.chobhe said:
That again shows that the problem is with the battery and not the phone or software. Don't you have LG service center where you can get the battery replaced?
Nitin
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not here, and I bet it would cost quite a lot of money. Wonder why they decided to check on the battery? Maybe because of the problems like Note had with the battery exploding thing?

nitin.chobhe said:
That again shows that the problem is with the battery and not the phone or software. Don't you have LG service center where you can get the battery replaced?
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why do you think the battery is to blame? Since I already found other people with the same problem of showing bad readings of % and also by not powering it up.

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why do you think the battery is to blame? Since I already found other people with the same problem of showing bad readings of % and also by not powering it up.
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It costs around 20 USD here in India.
You wrote this " I can power it up by plugging in to an outlet, but the battery does not charge at all.", that's why I think this is battery issue.
Nitin

nitin.chobhe said:
It costs around 20 USD here in India.
You wrote this " I can power it up by plugging in to an outlet, but the battery does not charge at all.", that's why I think this is battery issue.
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They did replace the battery and now it works as new. Thank you for all the feedback!

No battery.. Any way to turn on?

Recently digged out my old Qtek 9000 from the closet, and want to get it turned on again, but i have no battery.. It had swollen up years ago, so i threw it out.
Is there any way i can get the device to turn on again? Plugging in the mini usb charger, and i get a steady red led on the device but not able to turn it on. I tried attaching a powersupply of 3.7v to the + and - min but still nothing..
Any tricks?

Replace battery. It can damage the device severely or worse.
Any swelling is a failure.
Do Not attempt to charge a failed Li!!!
Without the battery to supply enough current, it can not boot. The charger can't sink enough current for a boot up...

blackhawk said:
Replace battery. It can damage the device severely or worse.
Any swelling is a failure.
Do Not attempt to charge a failed Li!!!
Without the battery to supply enough current, it can not boot. The charger can't sink enough current for a boot up...
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Where to find a battery in the EU though?

Don't know. Sorry. Li's have a limited self life too of about 3-4 years max.

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Don't know. Sorry. Li's have a limited self life too of about 3-4 years max.
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Oh.. Guess its a goner by now then. What a shame. Thanks for your input!

Da9L said:
Oh.. Guess its a goner by now then. What a shame. Thanks for your input!
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You can find or adapt a battery if you put some time into it... depends if it's worth it to you.
I have a 12yo flip top ruggedized phone that still boots

So to get the device to turn on with a another battery of the same voltage.. Should i only need to connect the two pins on each end of the pins on the device ?

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So to get the device to turn on with a another battery of the same voltage.. Should i only need to connect the two pins on each end of the pins on the device ?
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If there's only 2 pins, yes. The polarity must be correct!
Soldering to the mobo van be tricky if you're not proficient at doing it. Not the place to learn! The mobo landings can easily be destroyed by excess or prolonged heat. Prolonged is measured in seconds like 1-3 @ 725F with well tinned tip using 60/40 or better 63/37 lead based rosin core solder only. A tin or bottle of rosin flux can be useful.
You may only get one shot at it...solder pad landing repairs are even more difficult.
It wire is used, very thin gauge stranded only and always pretinned.