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OTA Update with systemless root

I just received a notification on my 6P saying that the january security update is available. The thing is that I'm rooted with systemless root, xposed, EX Kernel and TWRP. Can I update using the update button?

With systemless I believe you should be able to.

I just posted about this too....no one got back to me. I got the same message and have more or less the same setup as you. I'm scared to reboot and update lol

Pain-N-Panic said:
I just posted about this too....no one got back to me. I got the same message and have more or less the same setup as you. I'm scared to reboot and update lol
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No.
If you have TWRP installed you will not be able to take an OTA.
Why bother?
Just flash what you want.

Ok, so if I reboot and my phone tries to install the OTA, what happens?

I have exact the same setup and tried to let the OTA install but in TWRP it aborted because of the mismatching kernel I think (at least it said it expected the generic device name Google angler etc and in stead it found Huawei nexus 6P Dees-troy etc)
So no harm is done when you try to update other than it doesn't work
But as far as I know when using xposed there's no use for systemless root because xposed is changing system partition

This update message won't go away. Can I flash it myself through TWRP with Xposed installed?

You cannot use twrp with an OTA. You need stock recovery. Also I believe that Xposed modifies /system and that in itself would prevent the OTA with stock recovery.

dratsablive said:
You cannot use twrp with an OTA. You need stock recovery. Also I believe that Xposed modifies /system and that in itself would prevent the OTA with stock recovery.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/general/guides-how-to-guides-beginners-t3206928
I used step 10 from this guide then re-flashed TWRP, Super Su, ElementalX and everything seems to be fine, no data loss.

Pain-N-Panic said:
Ok, so if I reboot and my phone tries to install the OTA, what happens?
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Nothing happens. it'll just fail to flash the update. It'll reboot to twrp, attempt to flash the update, and it'll fail the flash. So it just won't flash. Then you'll just reboot the system and nothing will be changed. I think you can flash these minor changes, but if you try to flash a major update through OTA it won't work with out stock recovery because that's part of the flash I think
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regenwurm16 said:
I have exact the same setup and tried to let the OTA install but in TWRP it aborted because of the mismatching kernel I think (at least it said it expected the generic device name Google angler etc and in stead it found Huawei nexus 6P Dees-troy etc)
So no harm is done when you try to update other than it doesn't work
But as far as I know when using xposed there's no use for systemless root because xposed is changing system partition
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It does not bored because of mismatched kernel. Because I tried flashing the stock kernel and then OTA and it still did not work

kirkgbolton said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/general/guides-how-to-guides-beginners-t3206928
I used step 10 from this guide then re-flashed TWRP, Super Su, ElementalX and everything seems to be fine, no data loss.
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This. At this time it's the only fix. I did it as well. Never flashed a factory image via fastboot before so I was a little intimidated but Heisenberg's guide is so smooth and easy to follow I did it in about 5 minutes lol. Plus it was a great learning experience for me.

Is it likely that eventually TWRP flashable zips will make this process easier? Or is there some sort of restriction with these updates for Nexus phones that will always require fastboot?

Not sure. I do know that the above method only took me about 10 minutes. Yeah it sucks you have to utilize a PC to do it but its really not that bad. Maybe in the future someone will figure out how to implement the updates via flashable zip in recovery.

I struggle with this too. I really hope that someone will find a solution to flash it via .zip (sadly I'm more a programmer than an Android-hacker, otherwise I would try my very best right now ).

Just to point it out, it looks like the article you are referring to has been updated since it was linked. I wouldn't want to wipe userdata, so I think 11. How To Flash The Factory Images (Return To Stock But Leaving Internal Storage Intact) is what you were referring to at the time. Apologies for the resurrection.

I just used the FlashFire app to update my Nexus 6p with the February update and it worked like a charm.
http://nexus5.wonderhowto.com/how-t...thout-losing-root-no-computer-needed-0168428/

[Tutorial][OOS]Proper Way to Update OOS Through OTA on Rooted OnePlus 3/3T

This is what I found accidentally by myself. There is actually an easy way to flash the OTA update if you are too lazy to find a download link for the zip file(like me).
Required: TWRP(Always use the latest version to avoid problems), Any file manager
1. Download the update in settings through OTA. (Make sure full zip file is downloaded which normally exceeds 1GB.)
2. After finishing the download, open your file manager and enable the Show Hidden Files function.
3. Go to Internal Storage and find the folder named .Ota then copy the zip file to any directory you like.(Visible one which is not hidden.)
4. Reboot to TWRP and flash the zip file you downloaded, Magisk/SuperSU and other mods you like.
5. Wipe Dalvik and Cache
6. Reboot
7. Enjoy the update.
Ps: You should root your device before rebooting to prevent the TWRP from getting overwritten by stock recovery.

Well need to flash the TWRP image again so that recovery doesn't get replaced by default, correct? I guess that could be the blah blah blah part of Step 4

counterfeit187 said:
Well need to flash the TWRP image again so that recovery doesn't get replaced by default, correct? I guess that could be the blah blah blah part of Step 4
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No, TWRP remains. Flash the full rom, flash magisk/su and reboot to recovery then to system.
And isn't this the simple basic procedure to flash the rom on a rooted device(?) I wonder how to used to do it before and also that you can find the latest rom update on downloads.oneplus.net - can't you?
Plus won't this trigger dm verity and encryption? Because I usually wait for the modified boot.img for the latest update which disables dm verity and forced encryption.

DawoodSahi said:
No, TWRP remains. Flash the full rom, flash magisk/su and reboot to recovery then to system.
And isn't this the simple basic procedure to flash the rom on a rooted device(?) I wonder how to used to do it before and also that you can find the latest rom update on downloads.oneplus.net - can't you?
Plus won't this trigger dm verity and encryption? Because I usually wait for the modified boot.img for the latest update which disables dm verity and forced encryption.
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The DM Verity is usually okay because of magisk patching the boot image

counterfeit187 said:
The DM Verity is usually okay because of magisk patching the boot image
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So are you saying if I simply flash the complete rom and then magisk, it won't trigger dm verity thing?

DawoodSahi said:
So are you saying if I simply flash the complete rom and then magisk, it won't trigger dm verity thing?
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Yes, usually. Just make sure you don't let it reboot before you flash magisk or SuperSU

what if we have flashed a kernel?

DawoodSahi said:
So are you saying if I simply flash the complete rom and then magisk, it won't trigger dm verity thing?
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Yes, what @counterfeit187 said was right. I have personally tried it last night by flashing only magisk after the update and after the bootup my device is still unencrypted.
Ramith96 said:
what if we have flashed a kernel?
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You mean you're currently on a custom kernel? If so just follow the exact procedures and flash back your kernel which is the "blablabla" in the instruction.

Diatomix98 said:
Yes, what @counterfeit187 said was right. I have personally tried it last night by flashing only magisk after the update and after the bootup my device is still unencrypted.
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Yup I updated last night, just flashing the open beta 14 zip and magisk in TWRP before reboot.

counterfeit187 said:
Well need to flash the TWRP image again so that recovery doesn't get replaced by default, correct?
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If you root before rebooting (after flashing the full update zip), TWRP will remain. If you don't root, it will overwrite TWRP with stock recovery.
The whole process is already described (and in better detail) here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=70084260&postcount=3
Although admittedly, the info is not that obvious to find.
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Diatomix98 said:
This is what I found accidentally by myself. It's been told countless time that we should not update through OTA if our phone is rooted which will most probably brick the phone. However there is actually an easy way to flash the OTA update
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What is meant by this (the sentence I've highlighted in red font), is if you try to flash the "partial" or "patch" OTA (less than 1 GB), it will soft brick the phone (fixable if you flash the full update zip). Therefore, rooted and/or TWRP users should only flash the "full" update zip (> 1 GB).
If you get the update notification, the system should detect you have TWRP, and download only the full zip.
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Diatomix98 said:
If so just follow the exact procedures and flash back your kernel which is the "blablabla" in the instruction.
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It's completely unclear what is meant by "blablabla"
If the intent is to post a useful tutorial, the steps should be clear for everyone.

When we flash again doesn't it replace the twrp with the stock recovery?

redpoint73 said:
What is meant by this (the sentence I've highlighted in red font), is if you try to flash the "partial" or "patch" OTA (less than 1 GB), it will soft brick the phone (fixable if you flash the full update zip). Therefore, rooted and/or TWRP users should only flash the "full" update zip (> 1 GB).
If you get the update notification, the system should detect you have TWRP, and download only the full zip.
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It's completely unclear what is meant by "blablabla"
If the intent is to post a useful tutorial, the steps should be clear for everyone.
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Yep, you are right it was a misunderstanding as I have been reading quite some posts mentioning how their phones got bricked when updating through OTA. I should have understood the whole situation better, my bad here. That "blablabla" actually means other mods that we are flashing along like Arise Sound and etc which are neither important nor will they affect the update. Anyway, I am going to edit the op. Thanks for the advic though.

Ramith96 said:
When we flash again doesn't it replace the twrp with the stock recovery?
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If by "it" you mean the recovery, then as it was mentioned a few posts earlier, NO, TWRP remains.
Unleashed by ONEPLUS 3T rooted

Diatomix98 said:
Yep, you are right it was a misunderstanding as I have been reading quite some posts mentioning how their phones got bricked when updating through OTA. I should have understood the whole situation better, my bad here.
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No worries. I understand the confusion, as I agree the info in some threads isn't specific enough.
Diatomix98 said:
That "blablabla" actually means other mods that we are flashing along like Arise Sound and etc which are neither important nor will they affect the update. Anyway, I am going to edit the op. Thanks for the advic though.
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You're certainly welcome. Again, your tutorial will most certainly be useful to a lot of folks; as it will make the info easier to find. So having the best info (and easy to understand) is good all around. :good:
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Ramith96 said:
When we flash again doesn't it replace the twrp with the stock recovery?
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Already answered a couple times in this thread.
If you update and immediately root, TWRP will remain.
If you update, and don't root, then yes TWRP may be replaced with stock recovery.

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I tried that exact procedure but couldn't get past the boot animation for about half an hour so reverted back to the nandroid backup.
Note: I have the latest twrp and it worked on previous update but couldn't execute this time.

thesishir said:
I tried that exact procedure but couldn't get past the boot animation for about half an hour so reverted back to the nandroid backup.
Note: I have the latest twrp and it worked on previous update but couldn't execute this time.
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Did you verify the downloaded update file was larger than 1 GB?

redpoint73 said:
Did you verify the downloaded update file was larger than 1 GB?
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Yes I did! The file size is 1.43 gb to be exact but still no luck

thesishir said:
Yes I did! The file size is 1.43 gb to be exact but still no luck
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Not sure why it's not booting. But you might try to download the full update again, and install in TWRP (wipe Dalvik and cache, then flash): http://downloads.oneplus.net/oneplus-3t/oneplus_3t_oxygenos_4.1.7/

redpoint73 said:
Not sure why it's not booting. But you might try to download the full update again, and install in TWRP (wipe Dalvik and cache, then flash): http://downloads.oneplus.net/oneplus-3t/oneplus_3t_oxygenos_4.1.7/
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I have tried it several times with official downlaod provided by my phone and also with official op website but it tries to boot and freezes at the boot logo (the one where two dots follow each other) so I am here at last in a hope to fix this.

thesishir said:
I have tried it several times with official downlaod provided by my phone and also with official op website but it tries to boot and freezes at the boot logo (the one where two dots follow each other) so I am here at last in a hope to fix this.
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Only other think I can think of, is to do a full wipe (data, Dalvik, cache - the default wipe in TWRP). But you may not like that.
Or make sure you are on latest TWRP 3.1.1-2, or reflash TWRP.

Magisk on Oreo

I can't seem to install Magisk 16.0 via TWRP 3.2 on the Oreo update. It installs, but enters a bootloop. Why is that?
Also TWRP said cannot mount /data. How to fix this?
"Failed to mount '/data' (No such process)"
Also cannot format data this way
EDIT: Installed Magisk 16.4, no change. Also just realized that internal storage is inaccessible.

I upgraded and got in a bootloop. Then I remembered I had Nougat substratum themes active. Only way I got it booting is by factory resetting it.
As for installing magisk with root access, you can try the TWRPless method. I got it working on mine. All you need is the stock boot image and a computer to use adb.
Steps on installing magisk on Oreo:
1. Put the boot image somewhere you can easily find it for later use
2. Install the latest magisk manager apk on your phone
3. Enter magisk manager and install magisk (root) using the "patch boot image" method.
4. Send the patched boot image to your computer
5. Now reboot into bootloader
6. Now on your computer install the patched boot image using fastboot flash boot "patched boot image"
7. Reboot and profit!
Hope this helped you out. Good luck

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I upgraded and got in a bootloop. Then I remembered I had Nougat substratum themes active. Only way I got it booting is by factory resetting it.
As for installing magisk with root access, you can try the TWRPless method. I got it working on mine. All you need is the stock boot image and a computer to use adb.
Steps on installing magisk on Oreo:
1. Put the boot image somewhere you can easily find it for later use
2. Install the latest magisk manager apk on your phone
3. Enter magisk manager and install magisk (root) using the "patch boot image" method.
4. Send the patched boot image to your computer
5. Now reboot into bootloader
6. Now on your computer install the patched boot image using fastboot flash boot "patched boot image"
7. Reboot and profit!
Hope this helped you out. Good luck
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For anyone who tries the above method and has their fingerprint sensor stop working as I did, use a root file manager to remove the following directory/file:
/data/system/users/0/fpdata
/data/system/users/0/settings_fingerprint.xml
and reboot.
Certain modules required me to delete those files again, and some others broke the fingerprint functionality until they were removed and I rebooted twice. I hope someone can find a complete workaround soon.

+)KEV1N(+ said:
I upgraded and got in a bootloop. Then I remembered I had Nougat substratum themes active. Only way I got it booting is by factory resetting it.
As for installing magisk with root access, you can try the TWRPless method. I got it working on mine. All you need is the stock boot image and a computer to use adb.
Steps on installing magisk on Oreo:
1. Put the boot image somewhere you can easily find it for later use
2. Install the latest magisk manager apk on your phone
3. Enter magisk manager and install magisk (root) using the "patch boot image" method.
4. Send the patched boot image to your computer
5. Now reboot into bootloader
6. Now on your computer install the patched boot image using fastboot flash boot "patched boot image"
7. Reboot and profit!
Hope this helped you out. Good luck
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Already tried. Bootloop also, probably since magisk manager used v 16.0 instead 16.4.
I noticed that 16.4 actually signed the boot image using test keys, as opposed to the 16.0 which didn't.
I'm a bit frustrated here man
EDIT: I have substratum but I don't have any of the themes active, so the first one is a go. Installing magisk however...

GBry said:
Already tried. Bootloop also, probably since magisk manager used v 16.0 instead 16.4.
I noticed that 16.4 actually signed the boot image using test keys, as opposed to the 16.0 which didn't.
I'm a bit frustrated here man
EDIT: I have substratum but I don't have any of the themes active, so the first one is a go. Installing magisk however...
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So, now you're stuck in a bootloop?
Also, yes I used version 16.0 (you can never go wrong with a stable release)
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kekley said:
For anyone who tries the above method and has their fingerprint sensor stop working as I did, use a root file manager to remove the following directory/file:
/data/system/users/0/fpdata
/data/system/users/0/settings_fingerprint.xml
and reboot.
Certain modules required me to delete those files again, and some others broke the fingerprint functionality until they were removed and I rebooted twice. I hope someone can find a complete workaround soon.
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Did you try wiping your cache?

+)KEV1N(+ said:
So, now you're stuck in a bootloop?
Also, yes I used version 16.0 (you can never go wrong with a stable release)
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Did you try wiping your cache?
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Technically, I'm not now, since I flashed the original boot.img
But yes, if I installed magisk either via the patched boot.img or TWRP, I get a bootloop
Actually idk if bootloop or nah since I can't access logcat via adb, but it's on the bootlogo for like 5 mins (regular start time is 30-ish sec)

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Did you try wiping your cache?
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That was the first thing I tried, in fact. I have to use magisk 16.4 as well or else the fingerprint reader refuses to work no matter what. You haven't run into this issue at all? What's your setup if I might ask, and did you patch the boot image from the oreo update zip to install magisk?

kekley said:
That was the first thing I tried, in fact. I have to use magisk 16.4 as well or else the fingerprint reader refuses to work no matter what. You haven't run into this issue at all? What's your setup if I might ask, and did you patch the boot image from the oreo update zip to install magisk?
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I just watched a video tutorial to root it and keep stock recovery. Another thing to take note of is that I upgraded to Oreo using TWRP instead of stock recovery (yes, I didn't think it was possible on this phone).
Once I upgraded to Oreo, it reverted back to stock recovery. As you read above, I got stuck in a bootloop because I had substratum themes active, but I fixed it by using the stock recovery to factory reset it. (It's also nice to factory reset after a major OS upgrade so that you don't encounter any problems with old files)
If anyone's interested in a video, here's the one I watched:
Note: always make backups of your personal data!!!

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I just watched a video tutorial to root it and keep stock recovery. Another thing to take note of is that I upgraded to Oreo using TWRP instead of stock recovery (yes, I didn't think it was possible on this phone).
Once I upgraded to Oreo, it reverted back to stock recovery. As you read above, I got stuck in a bootloop because I had substratum themes active, but I fixed it by using the stock recovery to factory reset it. (It's also nice to factory reset after a major OS upgrade so that you don't encounter any problems with old files)
If anyone's interested in a video, here's the one I watched:
Note: always make backups of your personal data!!!
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So you did a factory reset and magisk is working properly? I can boot twrp without installing, but still no go using that method. Yes, I also used TWRP to install oreo, I didn't think it was possible either, but it finished flawlessly. Except the magisk thingy.
Can you mount /data in TWRP after oreo?

GBry said:
So you did a factory reset and magisk is working properly? I can boot twrp without installing, but still no go using that method. Yes, I also used TWRP to install oreo, I didn't think it was possible either, but it finished flawlessly. Except the magisk thingy.
Can you mount /data in TWRP after oreo?
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To answer your first question: yes, I did the basic setups, restored my apps and then installed magisk the way I explained above.
Secondly, did you try installing the latest TWRP? Because I didn't want to install TWRP until I have the stock recovery and TWRP with the latest Oreo kernels.
I saw this morning that shakalaca uploaded TWRP with the latest kernel, so I boot it through fastboot and saw that by default the following partitions were mounted: /recovery, /data, /cache. I tried /system to see if it works and it does.
I hope this answers your question and good luck!

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To answer your first question: yes, I did the basic setups, restored my apps and then installed magisk the way I explained above.
Secondly, did you try installing the latest TWRP? Because I didn't want to install TWRP until I have the stock recovery and TWRP with the latest Oreo kernels.
I saw this morning that shakalaca uploaded TWRP with the latest kernel, so I boot it through fastboot and saw that by default the following partitions were mounted: /recovery, /data, /cache. I tried /system to see if it works and it does.
I hope this answers your question and good luck!
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How did you manage to update via twrp? I get an error when I try it.

kekley said:
How did you manage to update via twrp? I get an error when I try it.
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I don't know man. I was just running the latest release of TWRP at the time and it somehow installed it like any custom rom.

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To answer your first question: yes, I did the basic setups, restored my apps and then installed magisk the way I explained above.
Secondly, did you try installing the latest TWRP? Because I didn't want to install TWRP until I have the stock recovery and TWRP with the latest Oreo kernels.
I saw this morning that shakalaca uploaded TWRP with the latest kernel, so I boot it through fastboot and saw that by default the following partitions were mounted: /recovery, /data, /cache. I tried /system to see if it works and it does.
I hope this answers your question and good luck!
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Wow, that's great! Can you give me the link? I can't seem to find the one for 553kl...
EDIT: apparently it's this one, isn't it?
https://mega.nz/#F!p90wgAaY!l1JbJilmAUEKTKWu43pT9w
Also tried live-booting TWRP and installing magisk (leaving stock recovery), left the boot.img unpatched
Installed the latest TWRP, the /data and internal got mounted, but after flashing magisk, bootloop again (still bootlogo after 10 minutes) even after wiping dalvik.
Cache is unwipeable somehow, is this an issue?

GBry said:
Wow, that's great! Can you give me the link? I can't seem to find the one for 553kl...
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So, I just realized I've been sending the wrong link to everyone so far. (It sent you to the "old" folder)
Here's an updated link: https://mega.nz/#F!p90wgAaY!l1JbJilmAUEKTKWu43pT9w

+)KEV1N(+ said:
So, I just realized I've been sending the wrong link to everyone so far. (It sent you to the "old" folder)
Here's an updated link: https://mega.nz/#F!p90wgAaY!l1JbJilmAUEKTKWu43pT9w
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Yes, I searched through my history and then found out that you gave me the same link, so thank you. Updated my 2nd to last post about the condition... Do I REALLY have to factory reset? Sigh...

+)KEV1N(+ said:
So, I just realized I've been sending the wrong link to everyone so far. (It sent you to the "old" folder)
Here's an updated link: https://mega.nz/#F!p90wgAaY!l1JbJilmAUEKTKWu43pT9w
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I don't know man. I was just running the latest release of TWRP at the time and it somehow installed it like any custom rom.
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kekley said:
How did you manage to update via twrp? I get an error when I try it.
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Yes, actually I just did update via TWRP, it installs flawlessly. HOWEVER, it only applies to the Oreo ROM, not the N or M ROMs. N and M needs stock recovery (the boot.img contains recovery too)

I was able to reflash the update via twrp by modifying the update script a bit (spat out errors about the twrp recovery having a more recent build date than the update zip) Everything seems so far so good! I haven't had issues with my fingerprint yet.

kekley said:
I was able to reflash the update via twrp by modifying the update script a bit (spat out errors about the twrp recovery having a more recent build date than the update zip) Everything seems so far so good! I haven't had issues with my fingerprint yet.
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Did you install Magisk though?

GBry said:
Wow, that's great! Can you give me the link? I can't seem to find the one for 553kl...
EDIT: apparently it's this one, isn't it?
https://mega.nz/#F!p90wgAaY!l1JbJilmAUEKTKWu43pT9w
Also tried live-booting TWRP and installing magisk (leaving stock recovery), left the boot.img unpatched
Installed the latest TWRP, the /data and internal got mounted, but after flashing magisk, bootloop again (still bootlogo after 10 minutes) even after wiping dalvik.
Cache is unwipeable somehow, is this an issue?
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Did you try clearing it with the stock recovery?

GBry said:
Did you install Magisk though?
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With the latest twrp, yes! :good:

Do I have to flash no verity?

I really just want to root stock. I have the Boost Mobile Perry.

guitardoc64 said:
I really just want to root stock. I have the Boost Mobile Perry.
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Yes. Install twrp, flash no verity, format data (to remove encryption) flash magisk. Some people have said if you took the last security update, you may have to patch the boot.img with magisk manager then flash the patched boot.img in fastboot or twrp to root. And will likely need the latest magisk beta (16.4).

I really don't care about encryption.

guitardoc64 said:
I really don't care about encryption.
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You have to remove encryption.

Ah okay. Thanks for letting me know. I guess I will have to wait till I get the time on a day off to get everything set up again.

guitardoc64 said:
Ah okay. Thanks for letting me know. I guess I will have to wait till I get the time on a day off to get everything set up again.
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Don't neglect to backup EVERYTHING in TWRP before doing ANYTHING (and store those images off-device!). Strongly suggest booting a TWRP image to perform this task vs. installing/flashing to the recovery partition, especially if interested in preserving/restoring OTA capability at a future time.

Of course I will back up everything. Honestly this is the first device I have not rooted since I started with Android. Everything else I rooted as soon as I got it.

guitardoc64 said:
Of course I will back up everything. Honestly this is the first device I have not rooted since I started with Android. Everything else I rooted as soon as I got it.
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You can backup your data in twrp and restore after you format (after first boot). Restore only data though.

guitardoc64 said:
Of course I will back up everything. Honestly this is the first device I have not rooted since I started with Android. Everything else I rooted as soon as I got it.
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Welcome to the 5% club which is probably generous based on the number of noobs (and veterans) who neglect to image their device before messing with core components. Of course that figure may be skewed as those that do take proper precautions rarely write posts that begin with "help!" and have no path back to the prior working state.
Also, resist the temptation to flash a custom recovery (twrp) vs booting from fastboot if you want to accept accept future OTA updates or roll back to pure stock. While restoring stock recovery is possible it certainly complicates the process. Can always revisit the decision at later time.

guitardoc64 said:
I really just want to root stock. I have the Boost Mobile Perry.
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I just got a few of these phones and looking to root them. I installed all the latest updates. Did you to have to patch the boot.img with magisk manager then flash the patched boot.img in twrp to root?
Or I follow these steps only?
1. unlock bootloader
2. Boot into twrp located here https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-e4/development/twrp-twrp-moto-g4-qualcomm-t3655160
3. delete the data folder
4. flash magisk
5. flash no-verify
6. done?

davejames500 said:
I just got a few of these phones and looking to root them. I installed all the latest updates. Did you to have to patch the boot.img with magisk manager then flash the patched boot.img in twrp to root?
Or I follow these steps only?
1. unlock bootloader
2. Boot into twrp located here https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-e4/development/twrp-twrp-moto-g4-qualcomm-t3655160
3. delete the data folder
4. flash magisk
5. flash no-verify
6. done?
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Don't have a definitive answer on the latest firmware. Suggest going through the above steps first. If no joy it's a simple matter to patch/flash boot.img .
You are wise to boot a twrp image vs flashing over stock recovery. Simplifies fallback should the need arise. Don't neglect to backup stock and store off device (or at least on a SD card).

davejames500 said:
I just got a few of these phones and looking to root them. I installed all the latest updates. Did you to have to patch the boot.img with magisk manager then flash the patched boot.img in twrp to root?
Or I follow these steps only?
1. unlock bootloader
2. Boot into twrp located here https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-e4/development/twrp-twrp-moto-g4-qualcomm-t3655160
3. delete the data folder
4. flash magisk
5. flash no-verify
6. done?
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For .3, format data to remove encryption.
But the rest should work. If not, you have to download the current firmware ( the version you're on) if you can find it. Extract the boot.img from it. Then use magisk manager to patch it. And use fastboot to flash the patched boot.img

i have the moto e4 mkt which no verity version do i have to flash ?

Rafasama said:
i have the moto e4 mkt which no verity version do i have to flash ?
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You shouldn't need a no-verity any longer. Newer versions of magisk should take care of it. Just TWRP, and magisk.

madbat99 said:
You can backup your data in twrp and restore after you format (after first boot). Restore only data though.
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Hello, I am running a Samsung Galaxy J5 Prime at the moment, a friend told me I must flash no verity.zip after flashing TWRP because of the verification and I tried making a backup if the entire rom but it failed so I need to confirm, do I factory reset my device then flash the no verity file or I flash the no verity file and then factory reset the device??
I know it's an old thread but a quick reply would be awesome

Magisk Question, about updating the Rom.

Hello there, I was told that to update the rom to the latest os. I am suppose to uninstall magisk, with restore image option. Doing this I am suppose to be able to install the rom and reinstall magisk. Yet when I click on restore image it says my stock backup does not exist. Is there a workaround to get this to work so I can install the latest OTA?
Thanks

Looking all over for a solution to this as well. Hopefully somebody gets back to you!

js2shanks said:
Hello there, I was told that to update the rom to the latest os. I am suppose to uninstall magisk, with restore image option. Doing this I am suppose to be able to install the rom and reinstall magisk. Yet when I click on restore image it says my stock backup does not exist. Is there a workaround to get this to work so I can install the latest OTA?
Thanks
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Do you have stock boot.img u can flash?
If you flashed a magisk patched boot.img then you won't have a backup.
If you flashed magisk through twrp then it must have been deleted. If so just flash magisk and after boot try the restore option.

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js2shanks said:
Hello there, I was told that to update the rom to the latest os. I am suppose to uninstall magisk, with restore image option. Doing this I am suppose to be able to install the rom and reinstall magisk. Yet when I click on restore image it says my stock backup does not exist. Is there a workaround to get this to work so I can install the latest OTA?
Thanks
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You probably didn't install root with magisk, so you don't have a backup img.
Install OTA then root again using fastboot to boot temporary on TWRP then flash magisk zip installer. This way you'll have the backup boot.img created for next time

Striatum_bdr said:
You probably didn't install root with magisk, so you don't have a backup img.
Install OTA then root again using fastboot to boot temporary on TWRP then flash magisk zip installer. This way you'll have the backup boot.img created for next time
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That's what I ended up doing as well. Except I just decided to keep TWRP.
In case anyone doesn't know how to do this..
Booting temporarily into TWRP:
Enter fastboot on your phone
Open command prompt on PC
Type in fastboot boot twrpname.img
That boots you into TWRP. Then flash the OTA.zip, then optionally flash TWRP.zip to keep TWRP on your recovery you have to reboot to to recovery once. Then you can flash the magisk.zip and this will create a stock backup image.
But you can skip flashing TWRP.zip and just do ota.zip then flash magisk.zip, this will still create your stock backup images but not keep TWRP as your recovery.

GuestK00179 said:
That's what I ended up doing as well. Except I just decided to keep TWRP.
In case anyone doesn't know how to do this..
Booting temporarily into TWRP:
Enter fastboot on your phone
Open command prompt on PC
Type in fastboot boot twrpname.img
That boots you into TWRP. Then flash the OTA.zip, then ...
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No, the fastboot boot command didn't boot to anywhere. I got stuck on LG Logo.
And how am I supposed to flash OTA.zip from TWRP (provided you give me an answer to the problem above)? Is the OTA.zip on any location I can browse with TWRP?
All I want to do is to OTA from v20b to v20c on my rooted device, without losing data and reinstalling everything. So I don't mind needing to re-root, and I don't mind installing TWRP if needed, but hell, this should be easier, it's less than 180Mb update!!!!!
I have magisk but no backup image, and I don't have TWRP, and never succeeded installing it, not even temporarily. I do have access to what should be the stock and magisk images from a Google Drive fellow, but I don't know what to flash, when, how, etc. All tutorials I've googled are useless, and the ones here in xda assumes many things that are NOT obvious to me.
Thanks
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alangt said:
No, the fastboot boot command didn't boot to anywhere. I got stuck on LG Logo.
And how am I supposed to flash OTA.zip from TWRP (provided you give me an answer to the problem above)? Is the OTA.zip on any location I can browse with TWRP?
All I want to do is to OTA from v20b to v20c on my rooted device, without losing data and reinstalling everything. So I don't mind needing to re-root, and I don't mind installing TWRP if needed, but hell, this should be easier, it's less than 180Mb update!!!!!
I have magisk but no backup image, and I don't have TWRP, and never succeeded installing it, not even temporarily. I do have access to what should be the stock and magisk images from a Google Drive fellow, but I don't know what to flash, when, how, etc. All tutorials I've googled are useless, and the ones here in xda assumes many things that are NOT obvious to me.
Thanks
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I'm terribly sorry, don't mind my post. I'm on the wrong phone thread (seems to be the only thread that says about the magisk wihout backup).
So sorry!
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alangt said:
No, the fastboot boot command didn't boot to anywhere. I got stuck on LG Logo.
And how am I supposed to flash OTA.zip from TWRP (provided you give me an answer to the problem above)? Is the OTA.zip on any location I can browse with TWRP?
All I want to do is to OTA from v20b to v20c on my rooted device, without losing data and reinstalling everything. So I don't mind needing to re-root, and I don't mind installing TWRP if needed, but hell, this should be easier, it's less than 180Mb update!!!!!
I have magisk but no backup image, and I don't have TWRP, and never succeeded installing it, not even temporarily. I do have access to what should be the stock and magisk images from a Google Drive fellow, but I don't know what to flash, when, how, etc. All tutorials I've googled are useless, and the ones here in xda assumes many things that are NOT obvious to me.
Thanks
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I'm terribly sorry, don't mind my post. I'm on the wrong phone thread (seems to be the only thread that says about the magisk wihout backup).
So sorry!