android and iOS virtual controllers? - Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Is there a way to connect iphone and/or android phone to act as a controller on nvidia shield? I have 3 xbox one controllers but apparently they are not bluetooth version like I thought. I don't want to buy new controllers just for the nvidia shield. I want to try out some party games like Sonic with my friends over the New Years eve. It would be great if anyone that wanted to play could connect their smartphone to use as a controller. I tried android app BTcontroller but it wasn't recognized as an accessory on nvidia shield.
is this possible? I played bomb squad game with my GF using their own app controllers. Other games like Sonic don't have that though.

Droidmote Server runs on the ShieldTV (requires root, and might have been broken by the 7.2 update) and the client runs on an Android phone. It can be tricky to set up, but the developer made a number of videos to help.

Mogster2K said:
Droidmote Server runs on the ShieldTV (requires root, and might have been broken by the 7.2 update) and the client runs on an Android phone. It can be tricky to set up, but the developer made a number of videos to help.
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It looks like there isn't a root available yet for 7.2. I did more research and I might try cetus play.

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Games on Android stick computers

So far, I have observed that few games are not working on MK-808. Few such games not working are temple run, bad piggies, talking tom, silibili etc.
As per my understanding, many games are configured such that it requires larger touch to operate than mouse courser can provide. Hence, these games are not able to take input with mouse.
Can someone find solution?
Yesterday tried pitfall and same issue....
I am not developer / software guy...so don't know how to fix it myself...
In droidmote, this issue is resolved by increasing pointer size...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VT6bAMUUWg0
I don't want to use my android mobile as mouse...
I want someone patch this feature in default ROM or make some app, so that I can use my RC12 mouse to operate these games...
So far, I have found this stick fantastic except only this issue which is creating game compatibility issue...
I believe it's serious issue but should not be very difficult to resolve...as already done in droidmote app
Problem game MK808B
Hello, I have the same problem. Please anybody, how to fix problem.
Thanks.
You would have to ask each developer to update their app to support other input methods besides touch screens.
lion2 said:
You would have to ask each developer to update their app to support other input methods besides touch screens.
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Don't sweat the simple stuff. You had to obviously know that some games just won't be playable without a touchscreen.
With the rise of Android sticks and Ouya coming... controller support will become the norm. Remember official controller support only JUST started to become mainstream (even though some of us have been doing it for years).
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The best games for such devices are One-Button games
on my Equiso, i play Canabalt and Jetpack Joyride. these two awesome games need only one button to control the actions. or games that doesn't require multi-touch the whole time, i play also Tapped Out (the simpsons game) and it works flawlessly. just stay away from arcade games like where you need to get moving and jumping and shooting at the same time.
i'm always searching for new ones and it's not easy.
hi
I have installed the finless 1.7 and bad piggies works well with the rktools app on my tablet or S3 to control my android tv. Also other games (in particular mame and n64oid) work superb with a wired xbox controller.
Only game i have had issues with is templerun 3 - i cant seem to get the gyro to work . Annoying but not the end of the world
I have read good thing about droidmote - i might buy that to see if that is any better.
Andy
andyfletcher said:
hi
I have installed the finless 1.7 and bad piggies works well with the rktools app on my tablet or S3 to control my android tv. Also other games (in particular mame and n64oid) work superb with a wired xbox controller.
Only game i have had issues with is templerun 3 - i cant seem to get the gyro to work . Annoying but not the end of the world
I have read good thing about droidmote - i might buy that to see if that is any better.
Andy
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You mean you have installed Finless 1.7 ROM on MK-808, because I PM finless and he said he requires lots of work to solve this issue so he has not planned to take care this issue.
If his own 1.7 ROM automatically resolves this matter, he should be aware of it.
Also, does it work without rktools, I mean with mouse?
One more question,
1.7 is not meant for MK-808 device. So, is it OK to use it?
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It is the RKRemoteControl that is making possible to play games and not ROM.
Some update here
http://www.freaktab.com/showthread....on-SS808-(MK808)&p=52013&viewfull=1#post52013
Hi,
Mine is a cheap one that i got off ebay. i think it is mk809 or ug802. But it works well with XBMC (SD only) and a ton of emulator games that i have tried.
The RKRemote app is bundled with the finless 1.7 package. This remote app does not work on the standard rom and neither does the xbox controller. But both remote app and controller work really well on the finless rom. Still struggling to get gyro working though.
Andy

[Q] Control Android TV stick with Android Smartphone/Tablet

For now it doesn´t matter if it only works with certain combinations of Stick and Smartphone/Tablet
I just want to know if it is even possible.
With Control I mean that I can see the same screen that runs on my TV on my Phone/Tablet, because I am thinking about buying a Nexus 7
and those stupid things don´t support Video output in any way
Hopefully somebody can answer me this question
As always i´m sorry for my bad english :cyclops:
I use the mk 802 III remote free from the play store to control my unrooted mk809. Works fine. If your stick is rooted, then droidmote on the play store also seems good, but I've not tried it yet. For this one you download a server app on the stick (paid) and a free contoller app to your device.
You don't get a mirror of the stick display on your phone - it basically turns your phone screen into a touchpad which controls a mouse pointer on screen - similar to a touchpad for a laptop. The only thing for the mk802 app is you need to keep switching modes for operating the pointer and operating a scroll function. Easier to do than explain, and its fine once you get used to it.
There are also remotes for xbmc if you decide to go that route (and why not!) which are a bit easier to use with that app.
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DroidMote, is not only a keyboard, a mouse, a multi-touch touchpad and a real controller with six axis and 16 buttons, with DroidMote you can play also with all multi-touch-only games even if you don't have a touch screen or your device is hooked to the tv
And with the last versions you can use also your hardware controller via DroidMote Client to play all multi-touch-only games
DroidMote Client control Android, Windows and Linux
Look this playlist for know almost all potential:
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL2E8D73B9D757086B
the latest videos refer to the latest versions

Emulators thread. Emulators that are working for the Fire TV

My biggest reason for buying this was using it for emulation and I've tried countless different emulators for NES, SNES and Sega and the three I've found these three to work the best. The menus, the layout, gamepad detection and compatibility (xbox360) all work the best with it.
I did pay for all of these because they work flawlessly, Robert offers free versions as well so you can try them out.
NES: NES.emu
Super Nintendo: Snes9x EX+
Sega: MD.emu
PSX:
FPse
For the 360 pad, the triggers don't work and the back/start buttons are tied to the emulator menu and can't change them. Developer is currently working on the triggers as of last weekend when I emailed him about them being buggy.[update 7-27-2014] Still no update or email from developer. Issue still present.
ePSXe
1.9.20 was sent to me by the developer to test the triggers for the X360 gamepad and have confirmed they work. Start button is tied to emulator menu. Not that big an issue since you can just set start button to an analog click. Everything seems to be in working order.
ePSXe works fine in landscape mode. Navagating it via gamepad is fine as well unless that is untrue with the Fire TV as I have no issues doing so on my Kindle Fire HDX my only issue is no sound but that seems to work fine on the Fire TV tho from what I have been reading.
Any suggestions for Nintendo 64? I'd love one more crack at Goldeneye. :good:
The original Mupen64Plus AE or CoolN64 should be what you're looking for.
Too bad the original seldom updates nowadays.
We are waiting on either the developer Paul,or anyone else that is capable of compiling a build with the much needed fixes like Banjo-Tooie and plugin updates.
Maybe someone can ask the CoolN64 developer to add the patches that fix Banjo-Tooie and the DelaySI function as well.
Or anyone here that is source code mod savvy could make a modded version with fixes and other changes.
Why has DK64 never been fixed for Mupen64Plus AE when Wii64 (mupen64/plus port) could actually run it with collisions and level loaders intact?
Does it have to be some sort of special xbox360 controller?
My wireless controller doesn't work. And yes, I connected the cable.
My biggest problem with the emulators is I can't figure out how to get them to work via XBMC and store the roms on a network drive instead of locally on the firetv. Is anyone using the emulators this way?
ToxicDM said:
Does it have to be some sort of special xbox360 controller?
My wireless controller doesn't work. And yes, I connected the cable.
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that doesn't work how you think it does lmao.
The cable that plugs into the wireless doesn't send a data signal. It's sole purpose is to charge. You'll need an xbox 360 wireless adapter for PC to get it to work.
http://www.amazon.com/Xbox-360-Wireless-Gaming-Receiver-Windows/dp/B000HZFCT2
That's just an example. You can find them cheaper on ebay but the official one is the one labeld "Microsoft". The rest are knockoffs, whether or not they will work on the Fire TV I don't know, but the official Microsoft branded one is plug and play.
Anyone else tried any more emulators? What about MAME?
Both MAME and the retroarch version work fairly well.
I played the arcade exclusive Golden Axe sequel called Revenge Of Death Adder.
Like MAME emulators always are,you have to make sure that every specific condition is correct.
Correct name,proper directory,and only when available in the given romset list.
retroben said:
Both MAME and the retroarch version work fairly well.
I played the arcade exclusive Golden Axe sequel called Revenge Of Death Adder.
Like MAME emulators always are,you have to make sure that every specific condition is correct.
Correct name,proper directory,and only when available in the given romset list.
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Has anyone been able to get the Gamesome frontend Working? I would love to use that as my front end for all my emus but it glitches out and freezes on opening.
Scratch that. Installing the Google Play Services fixed it for me.
epsxe's developer sent me a beta to test on the Fire TV and the triggers for the xbox 360 gamepad are confirmed working. Even though everything is detected you'll have to manually go into the gamepad settings to map the triggers which show up as gas and brake. Also make sure they're set up in the axis controls as well.
I dunno how they compare on standard phones and all that but the interface of the epsxe tends to flow a bit better with the Fire TV and gamepad detection.
SuperGNES is the best SNES emulator. reason:- it allows dropbox synchronization. i uploaded ALL my roms to my dropbox and was able to play all the roms from there easily.
I REALLY wish that other emulators would take a cue from this - if i could find a N64 or a PSP emulator that sync's with my GDrive or Dropbox or even my Skydrive i would be REALLY happy
Anyone try SCUMMVM? I've never tried it on Android, but I'd assume it would be optimized for touch devices. Would be quite awesome to get some old school adventure games on the Fire TV.
Retroarch can be gotten directly from the Play Store when on Fire TV.
This is the first time you see me praising Retroarch since I hate the god-awful controls/lack of proper input mapping such as rewind and fastforward mappings as well as not having console specific mappings to make things easier,but,SNES9x Next with the retropad overlay for quick fastforward plus the Retroarch exclusive ->rewind<- access and the shader on 1pass 4xBR using 4x resolution makes the perfect combination!
Is there any way to use cheats on Retroarch?
If not,then please add it,developers of Retroarch.
At least on the lower systems like NES,SNES,Genesis.
I still really wish there was another N64 Core to choose from like 1964 or Daedalus.
Spykez0129 said:
My biggest reason for buying this was using it for emulation and I've tried countless different emulators for NES, SNES and Sega and the three I've found these three to work the best. The menus, the layout, gamepad detection and compatibility (xbox360) all work the best with it.
I did pay for all of these because they work flawlessly, Robert offers free versions as well so you can try them out.
NES: NES.emu
Super Nintendo: Snes9x EX+
Sega: MD.emu
PSX:
FPse
For the 360 pad, the triggers don't work and the back/start buttons are tied to the emulator menu and can't change them. Developer is currently working on the triggers as of last weekend when I emailed him about them being buggy.[update 7-27-2014] Still no update or email from developer. Issue still present.
ePSXe
1.9.20 was sent to me by the developer to test the triggers for the X360 gamepad and have confirmed they work. Start button is tied to emulator menu. Not that big an issue since you can just set start button to an analog click. Everything seems to be in working order.
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Is there a way to have the roms on windows network drive and access them on fire TV?
heyredy141 said:
Is there a way to have the roms on windows network drive and access them on fire TV?
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I'll look into it.
Spykez0129 said:
I'll look into it.
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Thanks. I heard that apps like cifsmanager allows you to mount windows drive as internal folder but haven't been able to figure out how yet. I will let you know if I am successful.
Newest Custom Version of RetroArch
This is the best variation of RetroArch Available. Its a custom build that has more cores and more functions than the Google play store version.
My only issue is that my controller configuration with my DS4 controller will not save or stick for any reason. Maybe you guys can figure it out.
http://page3.yunfile.com/fs/1Craim2so3nR7ai0nde4/
Also Drastic (Nintendo DS EMU) Works FANTASTIC!
Also shoutout to the guy that talked about OpenBOR. Im freaking loving that game app! I've even been playing 2 players with Tincore Keymapper.
Here's the newest compiled file for OpenBOR (V.4074) with PS3 Button mapping to select items from the main menu below
Anyone try getting dolphin on this?
Ask Qualcomm to fix their shiddy processors so Dolphin can actually run on it.
I went between versions that crash immediately before the menu,and the emucr builds that open,but never start the game.
Instead,you get a grey screen until exiting the app.
I did manage to get one ancient version to almost start while the touch controls even appeared.
It may have actually started running the game,but with the black screen issue known to be caused by Qualcomm.
I just cannot find the OpenGL 2.0 ARM build of Dolphin to test on a Linux Distro inside VNC.
I really wished they ported the version with OpenGL 2.0 to Android instead.

Just thought of a brilliant idea!!

Im just mentioning this on the off chance someone hasnt already thought of it and it may not even be possible anyway. If a dev ported the shield tablet firmware to the shield tv then maybe we could have full access to the library of games the tablet offers with gamepad functionality already built in. If not is there a way we can trick the playstore into thinking the shield tv is a shield tablet and let you install the tablet modified games to check if they work without any mods. NOVA 3 anyone.....
Actually you can install applications on a Rooted Device. But the problem is the Shield Controller.
I tried installing apps but i was unable to control it. I believe it may require some configuration
I would like this as well. There are many touch only games. I use Droidmote and like it(love it) but in my family I am the only one that takes time to load the server and click start, load the client, set the gamepadtotouch/touchpad, load profile, connect the client to 127.0.0.1, set the keyboard to droidmoteime then play the game I picked. Then if I choose another game reload a profile, if I have it. Then play the game.
Most of the time I just say forget it and only play controller enabled games. Sometimes I just want to play a game and move on.
It would be nice if the process was more automated. I am not sure if the tablet OS makes the process easier but it would be nice to see if it would work.
I have researched loading the tablet firmware some but I am hesitant to try it since I have the 500GB STV and do not want to wait 2 hours between firmware loads to try it out. One day I may purchase the 16GB to play around with. Maybe I will find a good used one on CL and give it a whirl.
ive tried usuing market helper to spoof android to android shield tablet and download NOVA 3 but did not work, and i have tried the custom roms with full android not 'android tv' support and i can use sixaxis bluetooth wirless with my ps3 pad but the right analog stick wont move correctly even when configured yet every other control i am able to map successfully. i dont know what to try next....

Gamefly streaming on shield?

I'm curious if anyone has gotten gamefly streaming to work on the shield box. Tried to sideload one method but it says it's incompatible with the device. I'm going to attempt it when I get some time, but wondering if anyone else can confirm that it's possible and working or not.
I'll take the plunge, and say no way in hell. nVIDIA in their finite wisdom have blessed the Shield with its own Streaming Service called GeForce NOW. I'm less sure exactly who, or what GameFly are. But, if a second Streaming Service were ever added behind GFN. I would hope it was Steam.
That doesn't mean all is Lost however, you could still get yourself a GTX650 (Or better!*), and stream the PC client side to the Shield using Game Stream.
Or barring the rest of it ask GameFly to add support for AndroidTV, as a hole.
*AMD/ATI Does NOT count as better
Thanks for the response, but that doesn't answer my question. I have GFN and already can stream most of my library from the PC and steam. GFN has a somewhat limited library available with it's subscription compared to Gamefly's, which is available on a simple firestick, fire TV box, smart TV, or emtec box. Obviously if it works on a firestick then just about any crapbox will do.
I get it. Nvidia shield is superior, that's why I got it. I would rather install an app on the shield to try out other available technologies that isn't proprietary to just nvidia instead of buying another box just to try it. Hence my question if anyone has successfully installed the app on the shield.
CRoNeC said:
Thanks for the response, but that doesn't answer my question. I have GFN and already can stream most of my library from the PC and steam. GFN has a somewhat limited library available with it's subscription compared to Gamefly's, which is available on a simple firestick, fire TV box, smart TV, or emtec box. Obviously if it works on a firestick then just about any crapbox will do.
I get it. Nvidia shield is superior, that's why I got it. I would rather install an app on the shield to try out other available technologies that isn't proprietary to just nvidia instead of buying another box just to try it. Hence my question if anyone has successfully installed the app on the shield.
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Well then I take it that it's NOT in the AndroidTV NMPlayStore then. To wit my personal advice would be to sideload it. But outta personal interest is it in the Amazon App Store? If that were the case I might try sideloading the Amazon Underground App first then if you can install it there.
If not, then I would use something like ES File Explorer to copy the *.apk to a MicroSD, or USB Stick and then install it threw ES File Explorer again, on the Shield TV. Which should be simple enough, even if it was a PitA.
CRoNeC said:
Thanks for the response, but that doesn't answer my question. I have GFN and already can stream most of my library from the PC and steam. GFN has a somewhat limited library available with it's subscription compared to Gamefly's, which is available on a simple firestick, fire TV box, smart TV, or emtec box. Obviously if it works on a firestick then just about any crapbox will do.
I get it. Nvidia shield is superior, that's why I got it. I would rather install an app on the shield to try out other available technologies that isn't proprietary to just nvidia instead of buying another box just to try it. Hence my question if anyone has successfully installed the app on the shield.
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Hey Man, I have the same issue that you. Did you found any solution?
Thanks in advance
I was able to download it from mirror play store, and side load it. It runs, but with no navigation from the NV TV remote or game remote. But I could use a mouse and keyboard with it. I didn't get a subscription yet to see if it will work, and it probably will with keyboard and mouse, but my assumption is if the app doesn't recognize the NV game controller to navigate, then it won't work for games as well. Didn't try a PS4 or other Bluetooth controller with it yet. If you've tried this, at all. Let me know.

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