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This is in the concept stage. There are no guarantees.
I am converting my Ipod classic to use a series of SD cards, and I picked up a spare iPod for cheap. This is going to be my work log for removing the stock 30 pin connector and replacing it with a USB C connector. I'll need to design and 3d print the bottom cover of the device except where the connector is. I'm not even sure if there's enough room on the board for this to happen, I might end up needing to cut into the iPod board and do tracing stuff to make room.
One thing I'm wondering is if I can attach the firewire of the iPod to the firewire of the USB c port. I think I'll try to make a 30pin connector to USB C to test and see if there's any advantage before I attach anything to the board itself.
http://pinouts.ru/PortableDevices/ipod_pinout.shtml
https://i.stack.imgur.com/Aovh5.png
https://www.mill-max.com/assets/pdfs/149.2.pdf
update 12/20/2018
I have a 3d printer now, and the dev boards have arrived.
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Please update your work log!
I thought I was the only one wishing to upgrade my port along with my other mods to my ipod. I'm curious as to how you did it and what steps you took to make it happen! Following for future updates.
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I thought I was the only one wishing to upgrade my port along with my other mods to my ipod. I'm curious as to how you did it and what steps you took to make it happen! Following for future updates.
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Unfortunately I'm stuck. I've tried translating the pins from one to another, but nothing I've tried works. It does not recognize it.
If someone knows what pins to what to make the conversion, all I care about is making sure it can still charge and sync. Not the other 30 pin features.
Any updates to this?
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Any updates to this?
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Am wondering the same, has anyone else attempted this? Wonder if there's a QI adapter anywhere. Would love to get rid of the crappy charging cable it requires.
Great project any news
lets reignite this project !
Save the BS and simplify it, just 4 pins, "D+", "D-", "5V+" and "GND", these are all we need to charge and transfer data.
What was the road block here? just unable to obtain USB connection ? Type C is a little tricky as it has a parallel design like lightning. Maybe you had got the pinout jumbled or connected one side in reverse? Ordering some test boards and Type C port components to see what i can achieve!
https://www.theiphonewiki.com/wiki/30-pin_Connector
Someone else commented about QI charging, it is entirely possible and would not be very difficult to do, the only problem is the iPod has a solid metal back so it would need a custom manufactured back replacement. I absolutely love the idea but i dont think anyone has the money/time/resources to design, manufacture the parts required. Because even if they did they would be sitting on it for a very long time with very limited sales(not to mention how many different variations.)
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Ok so someone hacked the audio and charging in the ipod dock and made it work with a extUSB. Anyone up for making an adapter that lets u access video, audio, and charging capabilities of an iPod?? Using a extUSB and a female iPod connector?
and a custom mold?
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1 is USB Power +5v in
5 is USB Ground -
6 is Left Audio +
7 is marked “AG” on the HTC headset board, connect this one to pin 8 to enable audio.
8 is Audio Ground -
10 is Right Audio +
Now we wire the two connectors together like so:
iPod pin - HTC ExtUSB pin
1 ———— 8
3 ———— 10
4 ———— 6
16 ———— 5
23 ———— 1
Solder together pins 1 & 2 on the iPod side and pins 7 & 8 on the extUSB
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iPod Female Adapter
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Just what I'm looking for. If you have better instruction, I'll do it
http://www.webnetta.com/2008/12/27/hack-connects-t-mobile-g1-to-ipod-dock/
i was thinking about someway to do that. it would be easier if there was a premade extusb (port on touchpro, android, other htc phones) to the ipod dock for sale.
True. I've heard talk that a mass production is being started, but I dont think it'll be anytime soon.
Basically I just looked into this. Later today, I'll be looking into actually making it.
This is what is needed to finally justify the way too easy to break non-standard plug.
Audio adapter? Eh, okay, I've used it... A few times... I'd rather use the bluetooth audio.
What would be nice, is for this idea to take off, and also to be able to have a dock like the zune has with the video out. Hell, at that point I'd honestly forget why I ever carried my zune.
Subscribing. Not because I have the time or ability to make this, but I want to see what I can do to help the idea take off.
Am I the only one who can't sync with a home dock? It has never been able to sync from the roll out day that I bought it. I always thought it was a Samsung screw, but I opened it up tonight. You can see in the pic below that it actually has a USB connection with all the right wires. Does anyone have the correct pinout to the micro USB connector? BTW, not a bad pic for 5 megapixel camera, heh?
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If you are talking about the Media Part of it, then this is an issue with Samsung that is supposed to be fixed on froyo. so just wait a day or two and test it then. Also you might find more answers Here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=783177
?Not talking the video Froyo thing. What I'm taing about is the usb micro circuitry that should allow us to sync between the phone and the computer via the micro cable?
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?Not talking the video Froyo thing. What I'm taing about is the usb micro circuitry that should allow us to sync between the phone and the computer via the micro cable?
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I'm not sure what you think the dock does, but there is no desktop sync with these devices (until Samsung Kies works, which will probably be never). When I plug mine into the dock, it asks whether I want to charge or start the USB hub. If I choose the latter, it connects as a USB device, but syncing with Outlook, etc. doesn't happen.
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I'm not sure what you think the dock does, but there is no desktop sync with these devices (until Samsung Kies works, which will probably be never). When I plug mine into the dock, it asks whether I want to charge or start the USB hub. If I choose the latter, it connects as a USB device, but syncing with Outlook, etc. doesn't happen.
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I just wanted to use the usb port to do odin, 1 click, move files, etc. On mine I get nothing other than charging. The one suspect wire was the white one which might have been making contact with the board. On my way to sprint store to get a replacement.
THANK YOU!!!
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I'm installing an HTC flyer in my car permanently where the radio would go (2DIN mounting), but kind of sad at the prospect of losing camera functions (video of dashboard interiors are boring).
So, what would be involved in removing the camera module and placing it somewhere else, as the dash for example? Would I just need to unsolder the camera module, solder on a whole bunch of cables, and connect them to the same contacts? Or am I barking up the wrong tree?
Alternatively, if a device has USB OTG capabilities, is there any way to make it talk to a regular USB webcam?
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Alot of research could go into what you're trying to do.......
However, I'd recommend just trying it and see what happens. Make sure your wires are all the same length.
So yeah.. In this situation, i think the Leroy Jenkins approach is appropriate.
AdamOutler said:
So yeah.. In this situation, i think the Leroy Jenkins approach is appropriate.
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PRICELESS!! lmao. @OP, awesome idea for the in dash flyer. Please post some completed pics!
have you thought about removing the camera from the back ad making "jumper cables" to put it up front? you might need something to make a housing for it to sit in the dash, but it would be better than writing a driver for it.
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The thing is in adding(soldering?) 2 proper connectors to longer flex IMO, hard to do at home, but nothing is impossible. ^^
About OTG connecting - you'd probably use universal WebCam drivers from Ubuntu for eg. though the problem would be in powering that I think, WebCam has to be OTG compliant (with external power connector maybe?) or you'd need some special adapter, the rest is redirecting Android to use your webcam, but don't think it's hard comparing to other things.
I did this with a fascinate in my 87 BMW 325ic
I bought 2 extra cameras ( paid $16ea somewhere, cant remember off hand)
I failed at getting it to work myself as I suck at soldering.
However-
I had a friend take it into work and solder it in for me. We then took a light sensor from a 4th gen camaro , mounted it on my dash, ran the cam there, installed the phone and f-in-a . it was sweet.
this lasted for a full 3 weeks until something came undone and now the cam doesnt work. Ive switched back to the stock deck and just wired a bluetooth receiver into the tape deck, mounted a droid x down by the ashtray and it works. Not as great as what I had, but it works.
Point being, it can be done. and its pretty sweet when done right.
grab fried boards from ebay and start from there.
Wait some more weeks, cotula is developing usb host mode driver, and he has developed a working driver. Its for android. It will be available soon to public when he corrects the errors.
So u can simply plug in an usb cam to ur phone( providing only external power supplay is needed.) So u can do it with out bricking ur phone. Till then use it as a phone..
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I was attempting to solder in a usb flash drive onto the board for some extra internal storage, similar to what they are doing in this thread => http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1866988
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While soldering I accidently broke the piece circled in orange int he picture. I think it is a resistor? Can anyone confirm that and possible tell me how many ohms it is? The piece fell on the floor and is in my carpet somewhere. I would like to get a new piece to solder back in. Since the piece is missing my nexus 7 works fine except it can't go into OTG mode. If I connect a flash drive to the micro usb port with an OTG cable nothing happens and previously it would mount the USB with stickmount.
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I was attempting to solder in a usb flash drive onto the board for some extra internal storage, similar to what they are doing in this thread => http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1866988
While soldering I accidently broke the piece circled in orange int he picture. I think it is a resistor? Can anyone confirm that and possible tell me how many ohms it is? The piece fell on the floor and is in my carpet somewhere. I would like to get a new piece to solder back in. Since the piece is missing my nexus 7 works fine except it can't go into OTG mode. If I connect a flash drive to the micro usb port with an OTG cable nothing happens and previously it would mount the USB with stickmount.
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That is a resistor. When I get a chance I'll get the resistance for you, I'm in the process of moving my office in my house so I don't know exactly where my Multimeter is at the moment.
Thank you! That would be much appreciated!
Still haven't heard anything. Can anyone check the resistance for me?
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Still haven't heard anything. Can anyone check the resistance for me?
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Have you had a look at Nexus 7 schematics?
I found this, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=31922480#post31922480 , but it's way too complex for me. I have no idea how to find that one little resistor in the schematic.
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I found this, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=31922480#post31922480 , but it's way too complex for me. I have no idea how to find that one little resistor in the schematic.
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My guess, please check the schematic on sheet 14 of 60 or page 14, look for r83. Value of R83 is 100k ohm.
please correct if I was wrong.
KVLV said:
My guess, please check the schematic on sheet 14 of 60 or page 14, look for r83. Value of R83 is 100k ohm.
please correct if I was wrong.
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That definitely looks like a good guess. I might try that. Can anyone else confirm KVLV's guess?
Hi,
My Nexus 7 Gen 2 usb stopped charging (it was on/off for a while but now fully stopped).
I ordered a new USB component from eBay so I was desoldering the old one this morning but unfortunatley the 5 pins at the back ripped a few of the pads from the board off.
I was wondering before I order a new USB PCB for £40 is it possible to re trace the 5 pins and wire them to somewhere different on the board??
Looking at this picture this is what I thought I could do:
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Is this possible and if so the best way to fix this?
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Hi,
My Nexus 7 Gen 2 usb stopped charging (it was on/off for a while but now fully stopped).
I ordered a new USB component from eBay so I was desoldering the old one this morning but unfortunatley the 5 pins at the back ripped a few of the pads from the board off.
I was wondering before I order a new USB PCB for £40 is it possible to re trace the 5 pins and wire them to somewhere different on the board??
Looking at this picture this is what I thought I could do:
Is this possible and if so the best way to fix this?
Thanks
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You could try soldering to those solder pads right before the resistors/caps in the path. If you bypass those, and solder directly to the exposed pads you identified, you may have issues, i.e. those resistors/caps are probably there for a reason . That's what I would try anyways.
did you ever end up soldering to these pads? cause any issues?
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did you ever end up soldering to these pads? cause any issues?
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nevermind, didnt work of course. Ended up soldering to the pads just before those caps, just needed to not be lazy about it.