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Quality of camera for trinity is quite good but I don't like the 15 fps movies.
So I went to
HKLM/SOFTWARE/HTC/Camera/Recparam/MP4Large/Framerate
and changed the value from 15 to 30.
I get fluid movies but bitrate stays the same and picture quality is going down.
so I tried to change the BitRate value (384000 by default) but there is no effect. You can put whatever you want, the compression is controlled somewhere else.
Is there a way to increase this bitrate? I don't mind if movies get big as long as quality is improved.
Can you tell mi what is the maximum available video recording resolutin with Trinity and what frame rate?
maximum recording resolution is 352*288 (mode CIF).
In fact I checked that if you change the value:
HKLM/SOFTWARE/HTC/Camera/Recparam/MP4Large/
"Bitrate"=384000
Then whatever value you put the resulting file will be encoded with a default value of 192000.
Nobody has a clue of how the real bitrate is defined for the encoder???
192000 is the value for MP4medium and MP4small profiles.
Isn't it strange?
It's like if you change the value for MP4Large it falls back on MP4medium bitrate value...
Are you sure that trinity actualy record video in 30fps after registry hack? To bad bitrate can't be changed, is mp4 only available format for recording?
I tried it too, indeed de 30 fps tweak works, but bitrate is terrible.
I hope anyone got an idea how to fix this thing.
fraggar said:
I tried it too, indeed de 30 fps tweak works, but bitrate is terrible.
I hope anyone got an idea how to fix this thing.
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Did you try a slower frame rate, like 25 fps? It is still a pretty good speed.
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Did you try a slower frame rate, like 25 fps? It is still a pretty good speed.
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I'm wondering how powerful that ATi chip in the Trinity is. If it can handle 30fps with a higher bitrate... let's see if we can squeeze the most of it!
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I'm wondering how powerful that ATi chip in the Trinity is. If it can handle 30fps with a higher bitrate... let's see if we can squeeze the most of it!
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From what I've read, the ATi video chip is not being fully utilized by the ROM, maybe when we get an upgrade that will change.
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From what I've read, the ATi video chip is not being fully utilized by the ROM, maybe when we get an upgrade that will change.
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Not much is being utilized by the current ROM is there? I mean, it's seriously disappointing that HTC decided to release the Trinity with so many features disabled or toned down.
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Not much is being utilized by the current ROM is there? I mean, it's seriously disappointing that HTC decided to release the Trinity with so many features disabled or toned down.
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Agreed that most of the build-in features were disabled or not turned up fully, GPS, USB-Host and now Ati Chips. How HTC can release a "Full features" ROM soon.
Just wondering if anyone's who flashed their Trinity with one of the latest test ROMs noticed any changes to the video performance.
Anybody solve this problem?
also want to im prove videobitrate...
any clues?!
push need help
how to increase videobitrate
1. total amount of memory must be constant (I think)
2. more fps less bitrate
3. decrease fps and increase the bitrate
Not used to making video's as all my previous phones
Universal,Hermes,TytnII,Raphael,Touch HD didn't make them too well.
So just tried out making video's while driving (as a passenger) and
they look stunningly good. There's lot's of sun/cloud changes
and it picks up beautifully.
Frame rate is above 20FPS average in MPEG 640x480. Nice.
EDIT : from comments below I see most people expect more. For once I'm on the satisfied side
What .. it too can't play 640x480 flawlessly ? I saw some benchmarks which played such videos at 200%.
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What .. it too can't play 640x480 flawlessly ? I saw some benchmarks which played such videos at 200%.
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Did you read his comment???? where does it say it cant play 640x480
A sample recording would be nice
Smooth playback is 24 fps and beyond. if it's between 20-24, it sucks.
It's the recording rate in 640x480 not the playback speed.
It will almost always keep the 23.99 frames per second while recording
So I meant to say, it's a great video recorder.
I think the title of this thread is a little bit naive!
C'mon 640 x 480 has been on most high end phones now since 2006!
We now have alot of phones with 640 x 480, a fair few with 720 x 480 (D1?) and one or two with 720p recording.
The hardware in this phone is capable of 720p as is that of the Palm Pre, Iphone 3GS and probably others too.
So, in summary - I dont see 640 x 480 as amazingly good at all!
On the topic, do any devs think it would be possible to up the recording to it's 720p capabilities?
See above. I accidently posted twice.
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The hardware in this phone is capable of 720p
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Qualcomm advertises Snapdragon (rather over-optimistically in my opinion) as being capable of 720p video playback - where do they say it's capable of 720p capture?
My bad !
I did not notice he talks about RECORDING, I thought he talks about playback.
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Frame rate is above 20FPS average in MPEG 640x480. Nice.
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So video quality is "surprisingly mediocre", then. Is there any non-HTC smartphone in the world that can't manage at least 30fps at VGA resolution? The Samsung i8910HD can almost manage 24fps at a resolution of 1280x720. If the HD2 could better that, then maybe you could describe it as "amazingly good".
The Snapdragon probably should be able to record in 720P from a hardware point of view. My currrent phone, the i8910, records in 720P at around 22-24fps, and its only packing a 600mhz Cortex 8 CPU.
So i went to the registry and messed with some values a bit. I set the bitrate much higher than the default. It would still capture video @ about 25 fps. Can't really tell the difference in quality, but the filesize has increased by a 100%. I'll try to see if there are more reg settings to mess around.
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The Snapdragon probably should be able to record in 720P from a hardware point of view. My currrent phone, the i8910, records in 720P at around 22-24fps, and its only packing a 600mhz Cortex 8 CPU.
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There's a lot more to it than CPU power, I think - it's a bandwidth issue rather than MIPS. I wouldn't be surprised if Windows Mobile imposes some limitations too.
i imagine the bitrate would be similar
any way to do this?
Someone could hack it wouldn't mind!
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i really don't think it's possible .
its hardware issue, the sensor won't be a
ble to take it even with lower than 720p
wouldn't have to be 60fps even though.
anything higher would be an improvement
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wouldn't have to be 60fps even though.
anything higher would be an improvement
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Video recording needs to be done in a standardized frame rate, 24, 25, or 30Hz (or 50 & 60p). If not, it would be a terrible jitter from pulldown during playback.
plenty of videos are vfr depending on the scene motion state though (although mosty wmv afaik). as long as the player knows the right frame rate to play back it plays back fine
anyway, i was thinking as far as the data rate goes, it wouldn't be much different. if there's some hardware limit that doesn't allow it - fair enough.
what is the highest fps we could get though?
Hi,
we can take photos in 3.2 megapixel, so why we can not record video in this resolution or in 1megapixel resolution?
this 3 steps maybe can work
3 easy steps
- if reason is weak processor speed? overlock it
- if reason is low ram? extend it with microSD card and apply SD-Booster
- custom recording app with modified recording resolution. or only change /data/local.prop (but not work for most phones)
True
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what a breaktrough!!! xD if it were that simple we would have 720p recording by now
ya.. it s possible.. but it just damn hard.. may b it needs to rewrite the vid rec driver.. :/
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erikkubica said:
Hi,
we can take photos in 3.2 megapixel, so why we can not record video in this resolution or in 1megapixel resolution?
this 3 steps maybe can work
3 easy steps
- if reason is weak processor speed? overlock it
- if reason is low ram? extend it with microSD card and apply SD-Booster
- custom recording app with modified recording resolution. or only change /data/local.prop (but not work for most phones)
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"extend it with microSD card and apply SD-Booster" ? ? ?
Really?
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"extend it with microSD card and apply SD-Booster" ? ? ?
Really?
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i think he meant swap partition..
Ever thought about this:
- sensor not good enought to record 60 (or even 30/15) Photos with 3,2 MP in one second
Every other camera also needs to lower the resolution when recording video. Thats not a question of processor speed or RAM.
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Every other camera also needs to lower the resolution when recording video. Thats not a question of processor speed or RAM.
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So...
what about this:
Apple Ipod Touch 4G
Camera
Photo: 0.7MP (960 x 720), It's VGA!
Video recording:720p 30fps, it's HD!
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So...
what about this:
Apple Ipod Touch 4G
Camera
Photo: 0.7MP (960 x 720), It's VGA!
Video recording:720p 30fps, it's HD!
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everything depends on the sensor......ours can handle higher res recording
but drivers need to be edited...
im trying to get a kernel with higher res but the drivers are tough and i have no
c++ experience...
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"extend it with microSD card and apply SD-Booster" ? ? ?
Really?
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Copied from android market:
SD-Booster speeds up your SD-Card (external memory-card) up to 40 times! Enjoy a new feeling of speed on your Android smartphone anytime and everywhere you are.
Starting apps, listing to your favorite music or just swapping data with your PC ? Whatever you do, the SD-Booster improve your phone speed!
SD-Booster needs root permission to run, otherwise SD-Booster can't do anything!
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I dont know this is really working but....
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- sensor not good enought to record 60 (or even 30/15) Photos with 3,2 MP in one second
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So try to record your PC desktop with 30fps in resolution 1280x1024 with PATA/ATA HDD and 2GHz processor (1 core) if your HDD is low it cannot save 30 images(frames) per second to your HDD without lag.
If processor is low for rendering 30 frames frames in 1280x1024 resolution into video file and if HDD is too slow to write it, it is Fail. so if in our mobile is possible to speed up read/write speed of sd card and is possible to overlock cpu from 667MHz to 1300MHz, increase the ram using swap, so hardware side is done.
I think it is possible to change /or create custom\ driver for camera and customize recording resolution to our phone.
Sensor is one, If it can capture photo in 3.2MP it can also capture 25 photos/frames\ per second in 3.2MP and render it into video file without lags.
But I think 3.2MP is too much for our devices hardware. So 720pixel is enough to record a pretty nice video.
im trying to get a kernel with higher res but the drivers are tough and i have no
c++ experience..
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I am only php developer so I cant help you in this :-\
you are talking about filmin a video in 3.2 megapixel?!?!? are you out of your mind? Good cameras and high end phones take video in 1080p - that is 1920x1080=2megapixels. You think our little phone can do better? Its not only about RAM, CPU, the drivers need to be reworked but there are always hardware limitations that can not be changed. I'll bet all my money that there is no possible way to get even 720p video with our phone. If we get vga (640x480) recording we can be very happy. That is really hard to do, it may even be impossible since that is 4 times the current quality and it probably takes 4 times more power from memory, CPU, GPU, RAM and 4 months of making new drivers.
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you are talking about filmin a video in 3.2 megapixel?!?!? are you out of your mind? Good cameras and high end phones take video in 1080p - that is 1920x1080=2megapixels. You think our little phone can do better? Its not only about RAM, CPU, the drivers need to be reworked but there are always hardware limitations that can not be changed. I'll bet all my money that there is no possible way to get even 720p video with our phone. If we get vga (640x480) recording we can be very happy. That is really hard to do, it may even be impossible since that is 4 times the current quality and it probably takes 4 times more power from memory, CPU, GPU, RAM and 4 months of making new drivers.
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not in 3.2 in 720pixel
This theory could work, but I think we need a driver re-write. Not only that, but can our GPU even display 720p +?
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not in 3.2 in 720pixel
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Someone was arguing about video in 3.2mp. Anyway, we can't even play 720p video without stutering, so recording is impossible. VGA could be possible however, lg p500 has vga recording with 600mhz CPU and better GPU, if we can get the CPU to do more job than GPU there is a chance. Unless the sensor just can't take it, then we are stuck.
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Someone was arguing about video in 3.2mp. Anyway, we can't even play 720p video without stutering, so recording is impossible. VGA could be possible however, lg p500 has vga recording with 600mhz CPU and better GPU, if we can get the CPU to do more job than GPU there is a chance. Unless the sensor just can't take it, then we are stuck.
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we should be aiming for about 720x480 or close......
its a good res and our gpu should be able to handle it!
i can smoothly play dvd rips on mine without lag or anything at stock speed..
sensor shouldnt be a prob we just need a guy who is good with c++ knowledge
or driver writing experience....anyone?? if u need help with kernel i have successfully compiled a kernel from source and have all the necesary tools
It would be good if we were able to record in aac audio quality,and not like now - in amr.
What will give to us higher resolution if audio is horrible ?
GT-I5800 (Galaxy 3) Video Recording: increase please
Hello at all,
i use the DutchMods ROM V5.3 on my Galaxy 3. In my opinion it's a perfect firmware... but there is a thing: poor camera (Photo and Video). It don't change change from Samsung Stock one. Video has 320x240... a very poor resolution. I think there is some possibilities to increase the resolution to 640x480 (15 fps). The solution can be a post elaboration. When you save the video, the apk Interlace the photo or video. In this way you can have 640x480 video and more high megapixel in photo. The are very good routines for interlace (for example in N70 Nokia there was a program who shot 4 photos and build an high resolution photo using 4 low res photo). The same with video : 320x240 can be 640x480 video with less number of frames. It's a suggest for all custom firmwares.
Thank you at all.
Bye.
Jean-Luke
Talking is useless guys..
This is intended for Froyo
Records at 1920X1080 2mp
but video players decode it to a lower rate
unreal3000 said:
we just need a guy who is good with c++ knowledge
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of course , this is DAMN C++
erikkubica said:
if reason is low ram? extend it
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ARE YOU KIDDING ?
"I can see that SDbooster or whatever, even if it converts the r/w speed to 1TBps, its not to be used as a ram
SD card is a removable media, "if it can hold apps moved from the phone memory, IT IS MOVING. same for data and everything.."
but by no means it can be used as "Random Access Memory"
RAM is directly connected to the phone and it is permanent. Thats all a person can explain"
BTW, reason is the SCREEN RESOLUTION and LENS
rueolps said:
Ever thought about this:
- sensor not good enought to record 60 (or even 30/15) Photos with 3,2 MP in one second
Every other camera also needs to lower the resolution when recording video. Thats not a question of processor speed or RAM.
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I don't think that is a problem cause 25 FPS is enough right!!
Hi guys, G4 plus for is there any 1080p 60fps application and mod ?
I don't think there's hardware to encode 1080p at 60fps and the CPU is not strong enough for software encoding. I don't know if even 720p can be done.
Stock slowmotion is something like 540p so 1080p is so much larger than that even 60fps is not feasible
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I don't think there's hardware to encode 1080p at 60fps and the CPU is not strong enough for software encoding. I don't know if even 720p can be done.
Stock slowmotion is something like 540p so 1080p is so much larger than that even 60fps is not feasible
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guessingagain said:
I don't think there's hardware to encode 1080p at 60fps and the CPU is not strong enough for software encoding. I don't know if even 720p can be done.
Stock slowmotion is something like 540p so 1080p is so much larger than that even 60fps is not feasible
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Similar characteristics phones making 1080P 60fps, I think g4 plus is enough. for example; samsung galaxy s5 making record 1080p 60fps, even doing the 2160p 30fps
The processor we have does support video recording up to 1080p 60FPS. However, I do not know whether other hardware on the device inhibits that or not.
https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon/processors/617
zeomal said:
The processor we have does support video recording up to 1080p 60FPS. However, I do not know whether other hardware on the device inhibits that or not.
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Thanks for information, I believe future 60 fps mod.
it“s doable hit me up on telegram if rooted @defcomk
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it“s doable hit me up on telegram if rooted @defcomk
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Would be nice to provide a solution for ALL here on xda instead of another platform. The purpose of XDA is to provide help for all from all xdaians. Keep in mind.
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Would be nice to provide a solution for ALL here on xda instead of another platform. The purpose of XDA is to provide help for all from all xdaians. Keep in mind.
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I know i just prefer to debug via telegram and post working solution i feel feedback via posts is delayed if xda had live chat feature it would be great