New phone, radio issues - Essential Phone Questions & Answers

Since getting this phone last week, I love it, except for 2 issues. First, the hotspot, after disabling it, still shows up on my laptop as an available connection, and when this happens, the battery drain is significant. This happened 2 nights ago, I had disabled the hotspot before going to bed, and battery drained from full charge to ~55% overnight.
I noticed this issue the first day I had it, and tried a factory reset. That did not resolve the issue.
Today, to add another wrinkle to the problem, bluetooth would not connect to any of my devices. I used the option to "Reset Wi-Fi, mobile & Bluetooth," which worked for the bluetooth, but not for the hotspot. I had to reboot the phone for that to work properly.
In some troubleshooting on the hotspot issue, when disabling the hotspot, my laptop will disconnect, but it still shows the hotspot from the phone as an available connection, though it can't connect at that moment. This problem isn't consistent, though it's happened at least twice.
I'm running the latest stock Essential software.
If anyone has had any experience with this issue, or has found a solution, please share your knowledge. Thanks!

I never had problems with BT when this was my primary phone.
What made me switch back to my Huawei Mate 9, was the signal issue I had with the Essential.
I mean everything on this phone worked PERFECT, but, using the straight talk sim (tracfone/at&t),
I had problems maintaining a signal at time, where I NEVER had signal problems before.

p51d007 said:
I never had problems with BT when this was my primary phone.
What made me switch back to my Huawei Mate 9, was the signal issue I had with the Essential.
I mean everything on this phone worked PERFECT, but, using the straight talk sim (tracfone/at&t),
I had problems maintaining a signal at time, where I NEVER had signal problems before.
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That's interesting. I'm wondering if this has anything to do with this phone being a universal carrier phone. I'm on Verizon, and this phone is perfect on signal strength. Since the Huawei is a GSM only phone, perhaps it works better with GSM carriers.
By the way, nice signature. I'm the co-host, AKA sideshow, for Armed Lutheran Radio.

pastorbennett said:
That's interesting. I'm wondering if this has anything to do with this phone being a universal carrier phone. I'm on Verizon, and this phone is perfect on signal strength. Since the Huawei is a GSM only phone, perhaps it works better with GSM carriers.
By the way, nice signature. I'm the co-host, AKA sideshow, for Armed Lutheran Radio.
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Don't really know...it has the GSM bands that at&t uses, 2,4,5,17,30
I think it might be similar to when Apple slapped a metal cover on the back of their phones and
had signal issues. One of these days when I'm bored or snowed in, I might play around with seeing I
can get the back off and see if that changes anything.

I know its not what you wanna hear but try putting it on 3G mode only.
Where i live i get inconsistent or no signal if im in 4G mode from T-Mobile. If i travel south to a bigger city, i can run 4G all day long and no issues. If you get H+(3G) when you set it to 3G, then it might be a band/carrier issue with 4G in your area.

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How Many People Are Having MAJOR PROBLEMS with DATA on T-Mobile HD2(Stock Rom)

Because this is F'ing ridiculous. I'm soon going to be on my 3rd HD2(T-Mobile is shipping me a new one tomorrow) the previous 2 just kept dropping my data connection. After about 3 hours of LESS of use my data would go out and only way to fix this is by doing a soft reset which is absolutely ridicules considering the damn thing just came out not less then 3 weeks ago. Am I just having bad luck or is there really an issue here that either T-Mobile or HTC need to address ASAP?!
UPDATE
ok now im starting to think it was T-Mobiles network not being able to handle all the new data over there lines or what not. Its been a full 2 days and I'm getting great data coverage. I'm getting my replacement HD2 tomorrow via UPS since I called T-Mobile and told them about the problem they said they would send me a new one. What should I do now. Its such a pain to have to set up my phone the way I like it but then again I dont want to risk having another data problem.
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Because this is F'ing ridiculous. I'm soon going to be on my 3rd HD2(T-Mobile is shipping me a new one tomorrow) the previous 2 just kept dropping my data connection. After about 3 hours of LESS of use my data would go out and only way to fix this is by doing a soft reset which is absolutely ridicules considering the damn thing just came out not less then 3 weeks ago. Am I just having bad luck or is there really an issue here that either T-Mobile or HTC need to address ASAP?!
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Dude, you are having some bad luck!
My phone is perfect. Well, it could use a keyboard, but otherwise...
same problem
I am have same problem..t-mobile 3g sucks i guess
It appears to be a common problems with HD2 users on the other side.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=614119&highlight=connection
I was on the phone with T-mobile a few hours ago for an hour because my data connection would randomly drop. When I try to click it to turn it on, it would make me start a new data connection, wtf?
If I turn my phoen off and back on, it wouldn't even connect, with anything. The guy at T-mobile made me do a hard reset. My connection is fine now, but this was a hassle. I also notice Im not getting any better 3G service (as he said he update my network with better coverage).
I have the same problem with my phone. I have to constantly turn the data off and back on to get connection.
Both of my phones are doing it. They were both replaced recently too. Wish I could vote twice.
same here even if i have a full 3g bar data wont stay stable
No issues here.
been reading and stuff and more than half of the people with an HD2 have this BUT THERE IS A FIX search for it just like I DID
if you can't find it ill just post the cab latter when I got nothing bette to do.... haha lol
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been reading and stuff and more than half of the people with an HD2 have this BUT THERE IS A FIX search for it just like I DID
if you can't find it ill just post the cab latter when I got nothing bette to do.... haha lol
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That's great for you if you have a problem lol...I didn't when I was on stock. Glad to be on Elegancia now...pretty good s***.
No issues here. Bayarea.
The other day, I was in the Dade County Fair in Miami and my cell phone completely lost all connection (not just data, but cell signal as well). It would randomly come up again for a few seconds before dropping. I soft/hard reset, took the battery out for a few minutes... nothing seemed to work, so I called TMO USA the day after to see if maybe I was in the middle of an outage, but nothing and the guy from tech support couldn't help either... I had better service with MetroPCS....
The data connection dropping happens the moment I set foot in my home. It switches out of 3G and the phone starts displaying Edge, which is a lie because there is no network connection at that time (try to update weather and it simply spits out a connection error). I'm gonna try to flash something else and see if that works (I am on stock right now). If I cannot get this solved by the end of this week. I am switching to Sprint and getting myself a TP2 (since I need SIM card capability in my phone).
I did notice one strange thing though. I used CleanRAM (level 3 option) at one point at home when I was with the faulty Edge, and it switched back to full 3G. So, at this point, I am starting to believe that TMO put something in the stock rom that either hinders, or makes the connection lousy...
I guess I put away my ORD for as long as I could with this phone
To put it lightly, T-Mobile plan sucks in my area, I had to switch to AT&T ever since then I havent lost any data connections.
Although I just moved to EnergyROM the other day since I just like that ROM since I used to use it on my Touch Pro. I never had data issues with the Stock ROM. Only time I had a data issue is when there was an outtage in my area and then even the phone didn't work.
I could not get my data connection to stay on more than a few minutes at a time until I loaded up HD2Tweaks. Since then, it's been running perfectly.
It's odd...however, if your phone's only problem is just switching between Edge and 3G try setting the phone to only run on 3G...under Settings->Wireless Controls->Phone->Baseband->WCDMA...
If your phone is cutting out...that sucks lol...not a whole lot I can think of except for the fact that the laws of physics apply in this case...the higher a frequency is, the farther it travels with less energy but the less it penetrates the environment around it. This is in part caused by higher frequency waves becoming extremely tiny, with over 1900mhz having waves that are smaller than a drop of water.
AT&T 3G uses 850mhz and 1900mhz for their 3G. Its lower frequencies don't travel as far, but they have more towers to make up for coverage area and the signal will penetrate.
T-Mobile 3G is 1700mhz/2100mhz meaning that the slightly higher range, while seemingly insignificant, when coupled with less towers, will cause the far end of the signal range to have too great a degradation of power, and not enough penetration to be viable.
Along with this is the fact that many government agencies still operate on the frequencies that T-Mobile purchased, due to not having a backup for their systems. Enough power generated within a frequency range will raise the noise floor enough that your phone's signal will get cut off. Sounds crazy, but it does happen quite often. You ever hear static on your radio? Analog is great in that you can lose data and still function. So government radio's are perfectly okay with a little bit of background noise.
However, signals that broadcast an analog translation of a 1's and 0's, function like a digital connection. When packets of information are lost in significant quantities, or in this case they are known are "frames", your phone cuts out.
Signal interference is becoming more and more of a problem in the cellular world. Satellite communications have had to deal with this problem for years. Only now are enough cell phones being packed into a single area for the noise floor to rise in significant quantities.
Just my $.02
~Jasecloud4
for those who fix the problem can you post how you guys did it. i tried changing data to just 3g didn't work changing to voicestream it didnt work
I'm using HD2 since 25 march. Stock room. So far no problems.
Chicago & east sub.
No problems here... Ever...
Louisville, KY

GPS Issue, only in some areas. GSM network dependent.

Bit of an odd one. Basically at home with the phone on my home network T-Mobile I simply can't get a GPS fix. This problem has only happened in the last couple of weeks previously its been fine, a fix within seconds.
As some of you may know T-Mobile and Orange in the UK have now enabled roaming between the 2 networks. If I force the phone to roam onto Orange I get a GPS fix with-in a minute. Switch the network back to T-Mobile back to no fix.
If I'm in a different area, network on T-Mobile, fix within seconds. I thought maybe it's quick GPS wrongly loading the wrong area because of an issue in the cell db, I've set quick GPS to never update and now the GPS appears to cold start although quick GPS still says the data it has is valid for x number of days.
I've tried defaulting the phone but exactly the same with defaults and using GPS Test rather than TomTom.
Does anyone have any ideas? Is anyone else having the same issue?
I just tried another test. I roamed onto Orange and got a GPS fix in TomTom, I then set my network back to T-Mobile and the GPS fix was lost! As I switched networks I left TomTom running in the background.
A bit more testing. If I force the phone onto 3G T-Mobile the GPS works fine. My theory is what ever frequency the cell here operates on (some 5 miles away in the 1800MHz band) must be causing the some issue with the hardware
I'm thinking that most people wouldn't be able to experiment to see this, I'm just lucky or unlucky depending on how you look at it that I'm in a position where I can switch networks therefore changing frequency within the 1800MHz band and I can stay in the same place to test it. I've had in the past where the GPS would loose its fix for no reason and then just come back while travelling on a motorway I wonder if this was the same thing. Also the chances of someone owning a HD2 using the GPS and being on a cell who's frequency causes a problem is pretty small, and if your travelling you're likely to just think it's dropped for some reason, and oh yes it's back again now so think no more of it.
You are getting confused between GPS and GPRS.
GPS is the satellite system that you use to pinpoint your location (as with TomTom). If your phone is indoors or has a restricted view of the sky, then it cannot receive a signal.
GPRS is a data connection between your phone and the telecoms company. It is basically 2.5G, which way a intermediate step before 3G became set up.
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You are getting confused between GPS and GPRS.
GPS is the satellite system that you use to pinpoint your location (as with TomTom). If your phone is indoors or has a restricted view of the sky, then it cannot receive a signal.
GPRS is a data connection between your phone and the telecoms company. It is basically 2.5G, which way a intermediate step before 3G became set up.
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No, completely understand the difference between GPRS and GPS
I've proven with out a doubt that when using the t-mobile cell serving our house (2g) there is no GPS signal. Use another network still 1800 and there is GPS, use 3g, or move to another area on t-mobile there is GPS.
GPS was working at home while on t-mobile upto a couple of weeks ago, I can only think that the cell has had some work done and has changed frequency.
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No, completely understand the difference between GPRS and GPS
I've proven with out a doubt that when using the t-mobile cell serving our house (2g) there is no GPS signal. Use another network still 1800 and there is GPS, use 3g, or move to another area on t-mobile there is GPS.
GPS was working at home while on t-mobile upto a couple of weeks ago, I can only think that the cell has had some work done and has changed frequency.
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Silly question, but have you got AGPS activated? Because it can give you a rough location based upon the local cell transmitter info and any GPS satelite signals you may be recieving.
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Silly question, but have you got AGPS activated? Because it can give you a rough location based upon the local cell transmitter info and any GPS satellite signals you may be receiving.
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I have AGPS disabled. I doubt my operator supports it. I have tried with QuickGPS disabled and enabled but makes no difference.
If I get a fix while on Orange, leave which ever GPS enabled application I have running, running in the background, force the phone back onto my home network (TMobile), go back to the GPS application there's no fix and no satellite signal being received not even a hint.
I've also tried with the SIM card removed and GPS performs perfectly!
Thank you, I thought I was going mad - my GPS has been working perfectly since I got the phone 6 months ago but in the last week has been dropping out or refusing to start at all.
I tried a hard reset, which fixed the problem until I started driving the next day - after a few minutes TomTom lost it's way. Using a bluetooth GPS proved the signal was good, so I was coming around to the idea that the phone was broken...
I have also now read other users that have had GPS problems when roaming, although usually when switching between countries.
Looking on the T-Mobile website about the orange roaming issue it say 'there might be a few quirky side-effects' but I haven't even signed up for the Orange roaming option, sounds like T-Mobile has changed something for everyone?
I have read that fixing the network choice to manual, not auto, can help with GPS issues while roaming - I've yet to test this.
boomboomer said:
Thank you, I thought I was going mad - my GPS has been working perfectly since I got the phone 6 months ago but in the last week has been dropping out or refusing to start at all.
I tried a hard reset, which fixed the problem until I started driving the next day - after a few minutes TomTom lost it's way. Using a bluetooth GPS proved the signal was good, so I was coming around to the idea that the phone was broken...
I have also now read other users that have had GPS problems when roaming, although usually when switching between countries.
Looking on the T-Mobile website about the orange roaming issue it say 'there might be a few quirky side-effects' but I haven't even signed up for the Orange roaming option, sounds like T-Mobile has changed something for everyone?
I have read that fixing the network choice to manual, not auto, can help with GPS issues while roaming - I've yet to test this.
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I've had the issue for a couple of weeks I would say. Certainly last weekend I couldn't get a fix for ages when I set off and it wasn't until I was a way away from home that the GPS got a fix. This was before the roaming got switch on, of course it doesn't mean they were not doing something with the cell/network.
I too can get a perfect fix with external GPS or with a GPS nav system, or by changing networks! I've also tried another SIM card in the phone, again T-Mobile and get the same results.
I've attached some screen shots.
1st T-mobile no satellites, you'll notice that there isn't so much of hint of signal.
2nd Changing network.
3rd T-Mobile Orange and GPS fix.
All screen shots were taken with the phone in the same place.
Just come back from a drive just to test the GPS. Basically driven 30 miles away from home fixing the phone to T-Mobile and 2G and the only time I got a GPS fix was when the phone lost signal.
Parked in a layby and switched over to orange and got a fix with in a few seconds! Just can't figure out what the connection with being on T-mobile 2g is!
What Radio version is your phone using?
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What Radio version is your phone using?
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Have the same issue with various official T-Mobile ROMs.
I had a play with updating my AGPS settings last night using the Google settings from this thread: http://ip208-100-42-21.static.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=544421 when working on Orange couldn't notice any difference, with T-Mobile still not GPS fix.
I left the GPS running over night on T-Mobile, admittedly indoors but somewhere I know I get a fix, there was still no fix 7 hours later.
I live in a rural village covered only by one cell mast. GPS starts and runs fine at home with or without the phone turned on. if I walk over the other side of the hill, different cell mast, the GPS drops out immediately - I can't test if 3G fixes the problem as it doesn't work here. Once the GPS has stopped I can't get it to start again, even switching the phone off to airplane mode doesn't help. Only a soft reset, with the phone still in airplane mode will allow the GPS to start.
Switching the phone back on and the GPS drops, however walking back over the hill to home - back to my original cell mast and the GPS starts again.
I'm pretty sure t-mobile have rolled out a change to their 2G system, but not to all masts? rural ones maybe last done hence why my home cell still works.
How to proceed from here? T-Mobile are kind of hard to talk to.....
One thing I did notice was in Memory Map the satellite view normally flicks across satellite numbers until it finds a signal, if the T-Mobile problem occurs this process stops and it would appear to have frozen the service?
I take back the hard to talk to part of my last post, I emailed support from the website and they phoned me back within 2 hours!
As to be expected they couldn't give any instant answers but I gave this thread as a reference and the problem is to be escalated.
The call centerthen phoned me back and asked if I was happy, also to offer me 30 minutes free calls for next 3 months - very nice thank you.
Good work boomboomer. Hopefully T-mobile will find something. I'd like to know what they find, still can't understand the connection between a GSM network and GPS though. I haven't tried a controlled test with flight mode but will try that later. Out of interest what part of the country are you in? maybe it's just a pocket of cells that are affective? I'm in the BA8 postcode area.
The problem certainly only affects 2G, 3G is fine.
I'm out of the country this week but fingers crossed T-Mobile will find the problem. It's nice to know I'm not the only one with a problem.
I'm quite a distance away, DT2 here.
I've been asked to test the GPS over the next few days and keep a log of when and where it doesn't work, they said their network people will ring me soon.
At least this fault is 'interesting' in the words of their technical support guy, he'd never heard of anything like it, so there's hope they will give it some time.
On the plus side they've also given me a free month of internet, so I can't fault their customer support focus.
Incidentally, do you have SPB shell installed? This was the only change I'd made on my phone at the time this problem started.
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I'm quite a distance away, DT2 here.
I've been asked to test the GPS over the next few days and keep a log of when and where it doesn't work, they said their network people will ring me soon.
At least this fault is 'interesting' in the words of their technical support guy, he'd never heard of anything like it, so there's hope they will give it some time.
On the plus side they've also given me a free month of internet, so I can't fault their customer support focus.
Incidentally, do you have SPB shell installed? This was the only change I'd made on my phone at the time this problem started.
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I didn't get chance to do any testing today at Heathrow as ended up being a bit rushed. I wouldn't say your not a million miles away. 22miles ish, the Cell that covers our home is in Dorset which is pretty useless when you have to call 999 because you get connected to Dorset who then can't pass you to Somerset and you end up being in a situation where you have no way of contacting Somerset 999 not great in this day and age! But I'm not going to get started on that one on this topic.
It's quite possible its a regional problem.
No I haven't installed SPB shell, I have tried it with a defaulted phone but still had the same problem.
I'm out the country now until Friday, but will do some testing when I return on my return journey. I'll fix the phone to 2g T-mobile and keep an eye on where the GPS drops out.
Oh dear, just got a call from T-Mobile technical networks - they don't support GPS as part of their service and won't be spending any time on the problem, case closed. They did say the problem seems to be with HTC devices only, blackberrys are not effected so it sounds like they have heard of the issue eleswhere?
Looks like it's a network switch required to solve the problem, shame that as I've been with T-Mobile for over 7 years.
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Oh dear, just got a call from T-Mobile technical networks - they don't support GPS as part of their service and won't be spending any time on the problem, case closed. They did say the problem seems to be with HTC devices only, blackberrys are not effected so it sounds like they have heard of the issue eleswhere?
Looks like it's a network switch required to solve the problem, shame that as I've been with T-Mobile for over 7 years.
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Hmm, T-Mobile sold me the phone for use on their network, the phone is sold with a GPS, that now doesn't work on their network surely they need to spend sometime working with HTC to resolve the problem.
I do have a case open with HTC under the ref 10gbc410001235 they were supposed to be taking it up with tier 2 but as yet I've not heard anything back. I'll have to follow it up when I'm back in the UK. It might be worth you also logging a fault with HTC quoting my ref. at least if 2 people call in with the same problem they may start to think it's not just one crazy with the issue!
My other half has a HTC Desire, I haven't checked the GPS on her phone. Not sure if they use the same chipset, of course one is WM the other android. I wonder if its a problem for all HTC phones or just the HD2?

Network and GPS Functionality Vanished

Hi all,
I flashed my phone, and thought I’d go with Darky's Raw Steel Edition (4.1), which is awesome btw. I installed it correctly, installing I9000XWJM8 first (the MODEM and PDA, not CSC as none seemed to come in the package).
Everything was working smoothly until I realise 3G/Data Network is no longer working (it did previously). Not only that but it seems it won’t connect to my service provider (Three) at all (emergency calls only), and I’ve also now noticed GPS doesn’t seem to work at all, I can’t even get into GPS test mode. Wireless does however work though it being off, or on, has no impact.
I’ve tried:
Flashing different firmware - Stock JM8 and Doc Froyo’s latest JPO.
Hard Reset
Deleting and re-entering APN settings, though they were correct and already on the phone anyway.
Testing my SIM on another phone – signal is strong, inc. 3G on that.​
I’m really at a loss here. Any ideas anyone?
Thanks
UPDATE: So, I won't bump this myself, but incase anyone finds this thread in the future: the gprs, gps, 3g, etc all work - just not in my house, on the SGS, anymore. I have no idea why - my other phone, it's fine.. and it used to be fine with this phone too. I'll update again if I figure it out.
the other phone works fine with the same sim you are using in the SGS?
Yep, the same SIM works in my old Nokia 6600 fold, people in my house also with Three are getting solid reception right now. 4-5 bars with 3g established.
It worked beautifully all the way home from work on the bus, just not in/around my house.
It's as if the local cell towers near my house have blocked my SGS specifically (can't receive calls or texts either). I did turn the wireless on and off in short succession (which would cause the gprs/3g to try to re-establish each time).. maybe I flooded them and they blocked my IMEI? Or is that just a ridiculous idea?
The real odd thing is GPS not working either (again, just around my house/street); surely it doesn't need a cell site for that?
It does seem as if I can't download apps from The Market anymore either, and have tried various cache clearing solutions to fix it (problem occurred roughly when I noticed my reception was nill).
You might have a problem with the band selection thing of your phone.. have you tried downloading/speed test when you /do/ get a connection? If it seems capped at 40kbps, you might have the same problem I experienced before, of being stuck on 2g. (Despite settings saying otherwise).
I fixed it by doing the solution to having a missing 850 band, the thread of which is found somewhere in this forum.
Thanks. That sort of worked earlier.
It made a slow data connection, and some texts came through.
I then went out to a location a few miles away, had a look and it was still on a slow connection type for a few mins, then all of a sudden it went to HSPDA (with the occasional 3G flicker) and was blistering fast.
Now that I'm back home, I've lost all reception again and can't make/take calls
[EDIT] Clicking around my phone in the hopes of finding something: checked product code in my nv_data.bin file with SGS Toolbox, and it's showing I9000HKDKOR; whilst the backup is showing I9000HKDH3G - could I be on to something? I backed up my efs folder after rooting before doing anything else - so, going to try restoring that.
I have a hunch based on a 2 year old post (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=445913).
From what I understand, Three UK piggy back on Orange's network when Three's 3G cell towers are out of reach. Orange don't provide Three users with the full service though, just 2G and I'm guessing they prioritise Orange customer traffic.
I think when I flashed my phone, I removed code commanding the phone to prefer Three cell towers. Without that code, the phone simply goes to the strongest/first signal it detects. I'm guessing in the area near where I live, it's Orange (or maybe any old network which is why I'm often getting Emergency Calls only).
This is all guesswork. I'm hopeful, seeing as if I quickly switch the SIM to my two+ year old phone, then I quickly get 5 bars and 3G.. unless the SGS's signal issues really are *that* bad.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=831022
Try see if you have the symptom of a missing band?
Hi Nwsk, I tried that before and assumed it didn't work, but actually the change isn't sticking. Which seems to be the case for a couple of others! Thanks for pointing me back to it!
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Ohhhh dear. Now I have another theory (I really hope I'm wrong).
I've just read on a thread that some phones don't have the 850 Band, it's down to a lack of hardware support. I'd wager every Three UK branded phone sold will have the correct hardware as stock. I sent my phone back to Samsung for repair, they said they replaced the motherboard.. inference: they replaced it with one without the WCDMA 850 support.
Hmm, I'm definitely no authority on this, since I'm just guessing.. but I figure if that if was a true hardware defect, you wouldn't even be able to get it temporarily?
Are you using any 'battery-saving' type apps? Something might be messing up and keep reverting the settings. I had this occur to me a second time when I was trying out the superpower app here, I think it conflicted with another app I was using, and it borked out my network connectivity. Somehow fixed that after a few reboots, and lots of messing around in the phone debug menu with the 3g/2g thing, it suddenly worked again.
I've not seen it manage to get onto 850MHz WCDMA in my house for a while, not since the mobo got replaced (I should qualify that with a statement on my bad memory ). It will occasionally latch onto something if I walk around the house, giving me a slow data connection with the G symbol showing - it will drop pretty quickly.
Messing around while I write this, I've just realised if I set my phone to GSM(2G) with roaming [Three UK phones need this on so they can connect to Orange towers], then it does establish a data connection at 1800mhz. If I force WCDMA only, I get NOTHING. Setting both/auto leads to it being dodgy/instable, as I've discribed above.
My Nokia 6600 supports 850mhz UMTS, which would explain why it's working well inside my house.
I don't think it's an app. I've flashed a few different firmwares in an effort to get this fixed, it's currently on official Froyo JPO (not even rooted!) with Multi-CSC and a few completely harmless apps. I'd try the stock Three firmware if it was available somewhere.
I'm hoping it's software like you suggest! I will tinker away for now!
Thanks for all the help, at least now I'm fairly sure I'm on the right track!

Nexus 4: radios behaving badly

The one thing that's keeping me from fully enjoying my new Nexus 4---hassles with radios, both wifi & cellular.
1) On my home wifi network on all devices except the Nexus 4 I see solid, constant download speeds of 25Mbps. My Nexus 4 consistently only gives me 4-6Mbps. If I disconnect/reconnect sometimes I can see speeds slightly higher than that, but only temporarily. This isn't generally a huge deal because 4-6Mbps is fast enough for most things on a phone, it just bugs me that every other device in the house gets 25Mbps.
2) Of bigger annoyance is my cellular data connection, it drops off multiple times per day. The cellular signal strength indicates full bars, along with the 'H' icon indicating I'm connected to T-Mobiles HSPA+ network. Voice still works fine but the data connection is dead--nothing will connect--Speedtest, maps, Google Search, Facebook, etc. This forces me to either turn on/off Airplane mode or reboot the phone completely to regain my cellular data connection. On my previous SGS2 I never experienced this issue. It drives me nuts to not be able to pull up a phone number, directions etc at the times I need it most.
Does anybody have any similar experiences or suggestions on how to remedy these issues?
Edit---FYI I'm fully stock but rooted. 4.2.1 update not yet applied.
1) Check APN settings and make sure your account is properly provisioned by calling T-Mo CSRs. I had a similar issue with my Nexus One back in the day that was fixed with a reboot after they reprovisioned my account.
2) Flash factory image, in case it was a bad flash of the radio. It happens.
3) If 1 & 2 fails, or you don't want to try #2, call the Nexus hotline and get yourself a replacement.
ATnTdude said:
1) Check APN settings and make sure your account is properly provisioned by calling T-Mo CSRs. I had a similar issue with my Nexus One back in the day that was fixed with a reboot after they reprovisioned my account.
2) Flash factory image, in case it was a bad flash of the radio. It happens.
3) If 1 & 2 fails, or you don't want to try #2, call the Nexus hotline and get yourself a replacement.
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Called TMobile and had them reset my account, I'll keep an eye on it the next couple of days.
Right now I'm downloading a cached Google map via WiFi and it is slooooow.
I also notice on edge the signal is inconsistent.
Hi
The Wi-Fi issue is something happening to others, seems to be a driver bug.
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=40306
Regards
Phil
Wifi connectivity is my biggest gripe. I'll step 6 feet away from my router and I lose a bar. A couple rooms away I fluctuate between 1 and 0 bars.
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Did you ever find a cure for this? I am having the exact same issues on my O2UK Nexus 4, anytime I want to use the data connection its almost guaranteed not to work and involve reboots, Airplane mode on and off etc
Im having the same issues. My data just drops wifi and cellular. I dont get full signal wifi or cellular. I live in india and flashed the latest .54 which was released in india recently. I managed to at least get cellular data going but my strength still low and data drops still on both wifi and cellular. Its super frustrating. Any ideas?
try reflashing the OS on your phone and try changing the wifi channel on your router.
changing the channel on my wireless router really helped signal to all of my devices. there may be lots of interference on the channel you're on.
SeraldoBabalu said:
try reflashing the OS on your phone and try changing the wifi channel on your router.
changing the channel on my wireless router really helped signal to all of my devices. there may be lots of interference on the channel you're on.
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I may reflash OS but i just got the phone today so ill slow down a bit. I flashed the radio one would think that would be enough? Anyway I have many other devices on my wifi without an issue and i used wifi analyser and theres no overlap with other routers and i experience this on 2g 3g and wifi so it looks like some modem problem. Unfortunately the phone was bought 3 months ago in the States and im here in india so im kind of stuck
There are known issues with the Nexus 4 wifi speeds slowing for no apparent reason. Also, known issues with the LOS (loss of signal). You can find information and bug reports on both of these issues.
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There are known issues with the Nexus 4 wifi speeds slowing for no apparent reason. Also, known issues with the LOS (loss of signal). You can find information and bug reports on both of these issues.
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I dad see some threads reporting this issue. Unfortunately i dont see any solutions or resolved threads. Additionally people either have it they dont as i see it i cant see people witching sides. Its just a little frustrating. Any opinions on whether kernel swapping will help?
Did a full flash from scratch. No progress. Also i went to my friends place and signal was perfect for like 4 hrs straight but every other place ive been since has seen choppy signal.
nvillamob said:
Wifi connectivity is my biggest gripe. I'll step 6 feet away from my router and I lose a bar. A couple rooms away I fluctuate between 1 and 0 bars.
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Pretty bad. I ran a test a few weeks ago and I can go up to 450 feet from my router (old Linksys) without a problem, and after that it gets iffy, and finally disconnects at 500 feet. I am seeing an average of 20 Mbps on wifi. Now if I can only get my cellular connection (non-wifi) to go faster than 1 Mpbs max I would have a usable phone.
I have a slightly diff issue.
If I reboot my phone, I connect to my router no problem. If I turn wifi off (to save battery) and then turn it back on.... it shows my AP's as out of range.... but I do see my neighbours AP's. I also have an N10 with has no issues at all with wifi (and none of my other divises have issues either).
When I bought the N4 they seemed to be having an issue with it when setting it up.... but I was not paying close attention. I am wondering if I have a bad phone on top of the "normal" wifi issues that other are experiencing.
Think I will revert back to stock and swap it for another phone to see if I can at least just turn off / on the wifi rather then reboot to connect (how sad is that?)
OldGaf said:
I have a slightly diff issue.
If I reboot my phone, I connect to my router no problem. If I turn wifi off (to save battery) and then turn it back on.... it shows my AP's as out of range.... but I do see my neighbours AP's. I also have an N10 with has no issues at all with wifi (and none of my other divises have issues either).
When I bought the N4 they seemed to be having an issue with it when setting it up.... but I was not paying close attention. I am wondering if I have a bad phone on top of the "normal" wifi issues that other are experiencing.
Think I will revert back to stock and swap it for another phone to see if I can at least just turn off / on the wifi rather then reboot to connect (how sad is that?)
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**** UPDATE ****
I picked up a cheap belkin router and set it to AP mode.
My N4 has no issues at all with it. Connects when I want it to right away and is fast / solid connection.

Nexus 6P consistent network drop

Hello everyone!
I am having a very hard time diagnosing an issue with my Nexus 6P. Android 7.1.1 Angler-03.78 Build: N4F26T on AT&T unlocked. My network keeps dropping consistently. It works fine for about 5-7 minutes after a reboot or after toggling Airplane Mode. It goes on to attach itself to LTE and then subsequently drops to HSDPA/3G and then just outright loses network. It intermittently then comes back but usually hangs on to HSDPA/3G and the voice quality and data speed are just terrible.
I tried the SIM in my old Galaxy nexus (which doesn't support LTE unfortunately) and the network didn't drop. So I am convinced something is going on with the phone. This issue crept up this last Monday (03/26) and has been going on ever since. Has anyone had similar issues? If not, could anyone tell me how to diagnose this issue before I have to send it to Huawei? Because I am not very keen on sending away the only proper handset I have.
Thanks
I had a similar problem on Cricket, which uses AT&T's network. I never had good cell coverage in my apartment but it suddenly got so bad that I could only make and receive calls in certain rooms. Cricket wasn't able to diagnose the issue and I ended up switching my service to Project Fi. The problem completely went away. I now have a strong cell signal with full bars everywhere in my apartment. I'm not sure that sending your phone back to Huawei will actually solve anything but good luck.
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I had a similar problem on Cricket, which uses AT&T's network. I never had good cell coverage in my apartment but it suddenly got so bad that I could only make and receive calls in certain rooms. Cricket wasn't able to diagnose the issue and I ended up switching my service to Project Fi. The problem completely went away. I now have a strong cell signal with full bars everywhere in my apartment. I'm not sure that sending your phone back to Huawei will actually solve anything but good luck.
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Oh, I can't switch from my carrier. And this particular issue just started occurring this week. I have been reading a few threads with different radio versions. I wonder if that will help.
pronoyc said:
Hello everyone!
I am having a very hard time diagnosing an issue with my Nexus 6P. Android 7.1.1 Angler-03.78 Build: N4F26T on AT&T unlocked. My network keeps dropping consistently. It works fine for about 5-7 minutes after a reboot or after toggling Airplane Mode. It goes on to attach itself to LTE and then subsequently drops to HSDPA/3G and then just outright loses network. It intermittently then comes back but usually hangs on to HSDPA/3G and the voice quality and data speed are just terrible.
I tried the SIM in my old Galaxy nexus (which doesn't support LTE unfortunately) and the network didn't drop. So I am convinced something is going on with the phone. This issue crept up this last Monday (03/26) and has been going on ever since. Has anyone had similar issues? If not, could anyone tell me how to diagnose this issue before I have to send it to Huawei? Because I am not very keen on sending away the only proper handset I have.
Thanks
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This is a known issue just this month I experienced it myself, Try flashing different radios I was on 03.78 and had signal drop issues 03.72 and 03.75 have had the best results.
I flashed radio 3.7.5 and it did zip for me. I was on Sprint where I never had any problems and switched to AT&T when I got the 6P and never got more than half the bars strength when the service was actually working. After I switched to Project Fi I am usually on the T-Mobile network and get full bar strength 100% of the time at home. If I use Signal Spy to manually switch to Sprint I still get full bar strength in every room in my apartment. This is with the exact same radio that I had problems with on AT&T. I don't know if the 6P doesn't play nice with certain networks or if those networks provide inferior coverage but Verizon users have had notorious problems with this phone that caused Google to issue a separate radio just for them. Verizon customers are the ones who claimed to benefit from flashing radio 3.7.5. I have never heard of that actually helping anyone else and it definitely didn't help me. If the problem is partly with your network then sending the phone back to Huawei won't make any difference. You can try flashing a different radio but in the end you might have to switch carriers and if you can't do that you might need to switch to a phone that your carrier actually recommends.
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I flashed radio 3.7.5 and it did zip for me. I was on Sprint where I never had any problems and switched to AT&T when I got the 6P and never got more than half the bars strength when the service was actually working. After I switched to Project Fi I am usually on the T-Mobile network and get full bar strength 100% of the time at home. If I use Signal Spy to manually switch to Sprint I still get full bar strength in every room in my apartment. This is with the exact same radio that I had problems with on AT&T. I don't know if the 6P doesn't play nice with certain networks or if those networks provide inferior coverage but Verizon users have had notorious problems with this phone that caused Google to issue a separate radio just for them. Verizon customers are the ones who claimed to benefit from flashing radio 3.7.5. I have never heard of that actually helping anyone else and it definitely didn't help me. If the problem is partly with your network then sending the phone back to Huawei won't make any difference. You can try flashing a different radio but in the end you might have to switch carriers and if you can't do that you might need to switch to a phone that your carrier actually recommends.
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It's strange because this happened just this week. It was fine before this week. Everything worked, I got proper signal strength and the connection never dropped. Now on my commutes I can see there is no network when I am driving, no maps, no spotify nothing.
tarroyo said:
This is a known issue just this month I experienced it myself, Try flashing different radios I was on 03.78 and had signal drop issues 03.72 and 03.75 have had the best results.
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Okay, I guess that's what I am doing today. I haven't modded my phone in any way, I am still on stock android. I am going to have to start by unlocking bootloader and flashing TWRP.
Good luck. I was in the same boat. It just stopped working but there was no Rom update that could have caused a problem.
jhs39 said:
Good luck. I was in the same boat. It just stopped working but there was no Rom update that could have caused a problem.
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Yes! Exactly my thoughts
tarroyo said:
This is a known issue just this month I experienced it myself, Try flashing different radios I was on 03.78 and had signal drop issues 03.72 and 03.75 have had the best results.
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Where do I find the old versions? This thread doesn't have the old versions anymore. 03.79 doesn't resolve the issue.
EDIT: I used 03.75 and that doesn't do it either. Time to try 03.72. I am so disheartened.
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Where do I find the old versions? This thread doesn't have the old versions anymore. 03.79 doesn't resolve the issue.
EDIT: I used 03.75 and that doesn't do it either. Time to try 03.72. I am so disheartened.
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Nope, no luck with 03.72 either. :crying:
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Where do I find the old versions? This thread doesn't have the old versions anymore. 03.79 doesn't resolve the issue.
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Why not go to AT&T first, let them know about your issue and have them provision a new SIM for your phone (free). I seriously doubt a different radio is going to solve your problem, but if you want to try there is a dedicated thread in General for flashable bootloader/radio zips, but you would be better served installing ADB/Fastboot on your PC and using fastboot to flash them yourself. The latest radio is 03.81 (from 7.1.2) The stock image files on Google contain the radio and bootloader img files. If the new SIM doesn't fix it, you may end up backing up your data and doing a factory reset.
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Why not go to AT&T first, let them know about your issue and have them provision a new SIM for your phone (free). I seriously doubt a different radio is going to solve your problem, but if you want to try there is a dedicated thread in General for flashable bootloader/radio zips, but you would be better served installing ADB/Fastboot on your PC and using fastboot to flash them yourself. The latest radio is 03.81 (from 7.1.2) The stock image files on Google contain the radio and bootloader img files. If the new SIM doesn't fix it, you may end up backing up your data and doing a factory reset.
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Okay the latest factory ROM didn't work, I did a complete wipe and a factory reset. I will go to AT&T tomorrow and see if a new sim helps (I doubt it because this SIM works fine in my backup phone Galaxy Nexus but I can't verify LTE with that).
I don't know what my options will be after this. I feel like I am spending more time maintaining my phone instead of using it. Just disappointed, that's all.
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Where do I find the old versions? This thread doesn't have the old versions anymore. 03.79 doesn't resolve the issue.
EDIT: I used 03.75 and that doesn't do it either. Time to try 03.72. I am so disheartened.
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Under radios
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=63049054&postcount=3
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Under radios
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=63049054&postcount=3
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Yeah, I found it. Thank you. None of the versions helped though
I've been experiencing signal problems when downgrading which is not your case. But I got it solved by performing a factory reset. It's fairly straightforward once you have backed up your data. Worth a try?
Similar problem here I think I have found part of the problem
I have been having a similar problem ever since a recent update. I have tried everything found in this post. Recently I tried turning off my wifi and noticed the problem seems to go away. I have done a few searches to see if anyone has reported no phone with wifi on, none of the results so far have been very helpful.
Since I don't want to be without wifi, I have gone into the developer options and turned on cellular data always active, to see if this helps, so far this is working for me.
rchtk said:
I've been experiencing signal problems when downgrading which is not your case. But I got it solved by performing a factory reset. It's fairly straightforward once you have backed up your data. Worth a try?
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I did try that but it didn't work unfortunately. I called up Google and they sent me a refurb which was DOA but then later they sent me a new one which works just fine. So it was definitely a hardware issue on my old phone. I don't plan on updating my software because I just want this phone to work like a phone.
rhuskjr said:
I have been having a similar problem ever since a recent update. I have tried everything found in this post. Recently I tried turning off my wifi and noticed the problem seems to go away. I have done a few searches to see if anyone has reported no phone with wifi on, none of the results so far have been very helpful.
Since I don't want to be without wifi, I have gone into the developer options and turned on cellular data always active, to see if this helps, so far this is working for me.
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It happened either way. Wifi status didn't affect my issue. It used to die out completely. Google just sent me a new replacement (after a DOA refurb) and it seems to be holding. But I am not upgrading to 7.1.1 because I feel the issue might crop up again. So I am going to stick to 6.0 for now.
Update on my status
So far having wifi off has worked, until I ran Waze and then both GPS and Networking down till I quit and turned Airplane mode on and off. The previous change to Developer setting did not work.
I have been debating going back down to 6.*, has anyone had good results with this?

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