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Wizard Car Charger

So I visited my local Walmart and discovered a car charger, designed for Blackberry 6200 through 7500 and Motorola RAZR series phones.
The connector is the same, mini USB B.
$25,000 Question: Can I use this to charge my TMO MDA? Same connection, just worried the voltage or wiring might not be the same.

The AC chargers that came with my Razr and MDA are the same voltage-wise (5V) but not the same Amps.
MDA is 5V 1A, Razr is 5V 0.5A, they are not the same
However, it shouldn't damage the battery, just charge slower.
Just so you know, USB ports output 5V at 0.5A as well.
Edit: Sorry, I realize I completely changed my post, but didn't want incorrect info out there.

Thanks...I figured that, but was just making sure.
I got it in case of emergency...I almost always charge via USB; just leave it plugged in all day.
But you never know.....
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fuzzie said:
Thanks...I figured that, but was just making sure.
I got it in case of emergency...I almost always charge via USB; just leave it plugged in all day.
But you never know.....
Thanks!
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Don't expect it to charge if you battery is below 30-20% charge. I'm not sure why this is an issue but it has bitten me in the rear once already.
Does anybody know why it's a problem for "less-than-1amp" chargers to charge back from the low threshold?

boxwave.com sells a 1 amp car charger. It has a USB port, so you just use it with any cable that normally plugs into a USB port. Since my Globalsat GBH-820 BT adapter came with a cable with large USB at one end, and _two_ mini USB at the other end, I can charge the GBH-820 and my 8125 at the same time.

oconnor.jb said:
boxwave.com sells a 1 amp car charger. It has a USB port, so you just use it with any cable that normally plugs into a USB port. Since my Globalsat GBH-820 BT adapter came with a cable with large USB at one end, and _two_ mini USB at the other end, I can charge the GBH-820 and my 8125 at the same time.
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That's not true,... if you use the VersaCharger like I do. This is where I learned of the "charging only" cable that Boxwave sells (how conveinent) and then they sell a Sync/charger for USB only. I have a Boxwave VersaCharger that I can't use without buying their "cable" to make it charge the 8125. I found this out because I have a Belkin retractable sync/charge cable that doesn't work with the VersaCharger as I had hoped. The cable that you have may work with 1amp charger but it probably won't work with theVersaCharger.
What is the output on the "min-usb" connector end of the cable? This sounds like the cable that I need for the 2 devices that I use.
...I wonder if they are putting some electronics in the cable connector...?

I bought the bundle that had a car charger (I have the regular; not the high output; not the Versa) and two mini-Sync (retractable) cables. I got caught by the fact that one of them is "charging only" when I was trying to use the "charging only" cable between my laptop and my TI-84plus calculator. I switched to the mini-USB cable that came with my calculator, and it worked fine, as did my phone with AS. That's when I looked closer at the two mini-sync cables and noticed that one was for "charging only". So, that mini-sync cable (the charging only) stays in the car, and works fine for charging my phone or my GBH-820. The really odd thing is that the "charging only" cable looks "thicker" than the one that works for syncing. Maybe lower gauge wire to help the higher current flow easier.
I have also used my other USB-miniUSB cables with my car adapter. E.g. the cable that came with the phone, the cable that came with my TI-84plus calculator.
My Bluetake headphones came with their own USB cable that has, for lack of any better term, an ultraminiUSB (or some kind of proprietary connector, cause it's not marked with a USB symbol like the other cables) plug at the end. I just plug the regular USB end of that cable into the car charger, and it charges the Bluetake's just fine.

Excellent car charger for Wizard
I have purchased and used the "Ecovell 4x USB" adapter on both a Wizard and a Universal. It provides a 2 Amp output which is equivalent to the AC adapter and works with any mini-USB cable. It will charge a Universal from absolutely dead which I have not been able to do with any other adapter. Here is the link to the item on Yes Depot:
http://www.yesdepot.com/product/ud0520.html
I've ordered from them and the service was OK. I haven't seen the item available anywhere else.
Regards,
Dave

Forgot my OEM usb charger in a hotel..

Hi,
I have forgot my Asus oem usb cable in a hotel in San Francisco., The charger is not available on google playstore, i really just need the cable and I dontwant to use a normal usb cable because it takes hours to charge..
Anyone know where i can buy such cable?
I need a cable with this output:
AC INPUT
110V-240V
DC OUTPUT
5Vdc/2A
PLUG
North American NEMA 1-15 plug (standard 2 prong US plug)

Malarie said:
Hi,
I have forgot my Asus oem usb cable in a hotel in San Francisco., The charger is not available on google playstore, i really just need the cable and I dontwant to use a normal usb cable because it takes hours to charge..
Anyone know where i can buy such cable?
I need a cable with this output:
AC INPUT
110V-240V
DC OUTPUT
5Vdc/2A
PLUG
North American NEMA 1-15 plug (standard 2 prong US plug)
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I got this one as a "spare" to keep at work. Works perfectly with the N7. I did have to get a micro USB cable to go with it and the Galaxy Tab cable is a throw-away....but still. Charger itself works awesome.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005XPXHCU

ExploreMN said:
I got this one as a "spare" to keep at work. Works perfectly with the N7. I did have to get a micro USB cable to go with it and the Galaxy Tab cable is a throw-away....but still. Charger itself works awesome.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005XPXHCU
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Thanks you very miuch for the reply
Does any micro usb cable works with the OEM charger? Cause i still have the plug connector, i really just need the cable..

Malarie said:
Thanks you very miuch for the reply
Does any micro usb cable works with the OEM charger? Cause i still have the plug connector, i really just need the cable..
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Yeah, any cable should work for charging. Usually it's data that is a problem because sometimes cables won't have those pins even connected.

The charger is available in the play store its $25 I just double checked
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Taking one for the team. Nice. Whenever I go to hotels and forget my charger I can always get one at reception.

ExploreMN said:
Yeah, any cable should work for charging. Usually it's data that is a problem because sometimes cables won't have those pins even connected.
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Why do some companies insist on supplying crippled USB cables?
On where to get them, any mobile (cell) phone shop should have micro USB. Just about every maker – with the exception, of course, of Apple – has switched to this connector for charging and data.

Car Charger?

Does anyone have a confirmed working car charger for this phone?
My motorola car charger that I used for my GNex and GS3 isn't fully compatible with the G2. I get a message saying "slow charging" when I plug it in.
What do you guys use to achieve full charging speeds?
I realize there's a Q&A forum, but since this is directly related to accessories, I wasn't sure if it was better suited for this forum.

Nobody has a working car charger?

Both of these work for me.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0042B9U8Q/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006SU0SX0/ref=oh_details_o03_s00_i01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
the powerjolt is much more low profile though

That's just a generic list. The G2 requires a hi power charger
jeff_warner said:
Hi check out this collection of car charger for LG G2...they all are compatible with LG G2 and wont create any issue of slow charging and all...you can avail any of them for free shipping too...
Thanks !!!!
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beddachedda said:
Both of these work for me.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0042B9U8Q/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006SU0SX0/ref=oh_details_o03_s00_i01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
the powerjolt is much more low profile though
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The powergen dual port works great. It has two 2.1amp USB ports, one that works with Android, and the other with Apple products (when using a data cable --> detecting USB vs AC charge mode). I have custom USB cables where I shorted the data pins so I always pull at AC charge rates regardless of the port type. In any event, this charger should provide you with the same capability as the OEM wall charger.

I have a 2amp car charger and it works fine, no message about slow charging.

the issue im runnin into is find a usb cable that enables fast charging
i have a dual usb car charger that put out 2amps per usb but cant.find an aftermarket usb to micro that can support more amps (fast chargin)
the oem lg g2 cable works...as well as the nexus 7 cable
i got this cable but doesnt charge more than 1amp
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B004G...c=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_details_o01_s00_i02
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kyler13 said:
The powergen dual port works great. It has two 2.1amp USB ports, one that works with Android, and the other with Apple products (when using a data cable --> detecting USB vs AC charge mode). I have custom USB cables where I shorted the data pins so I always pull at AC charge rates regardless of the port type. In any event, this charger should provide you with the same capability as the OEM wall charger.
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how do u short the data pins?

nitric13 said:
the issue im runnin into is find a usb cable that enables fast charging
i have a dual usb car charger that put out 2amps per usb but cant.find an aftermarket usb to micro that can support more amps (fast chargin)
the oem lg g2 cable works...as well as the nexus 7 cable
i got this cable but doesnt charge more than 1amp
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B004G...c=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_details_o01_s00_i02
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how do u short the data pins?
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To short the data pins, I actually cut a USB cable, stripped back the insulator, re-soldered the +5V and ground wires, soldered together the data pins on the microUSB side of the cable, and stagger cut the data wires on the other side. Prior to the re-soldering, I slipped some shrink tubing on one end of the cable to re-insulate everything. Not for the faint of heart.
Background for those that don't know... Typically, Android phones look for little to no resistance on the data pins to detect a high current charger. Any other load triggers USB mode since most PC's are only designed to supply 500mA via USB. I assume this is a safety issue to prevent overdrawing a PC's port. Apple operates differently. They look for some nominal resistance as USB and switch to fast charge under open or some higher resistance. Most chargers >500mA are designed for the iPhone market unless they explicitly state other compatibility. Therefore, the data pins are floating. Any charger can be used at its max rating if you trick the Android phone with the homemade cable described above. Of course, then it becomes a power-only cable, useless for data. Clearly, OEM chargers for Android phones short the data pins internally so your OEM cable can be used with a wall charger (fast) or with your PC for data connections and nominal (slow) charging.
So the powergen mentioned above has two 2.1A ports, one labeled NA (non-apple) and A (apple) so you don't need to worry about mix-n-match devices and cables. Any USB cable will fast charge on the appropriate port. With my homemade cable above, my Galaxy Nexus will fast charge on either port.
Fast forward to the G2... Just got it yesterday and while in the car, I noticed my homemade cable only permitted SLOW charge on either port. Huh. Kinda a head scratcher. I ran in the house and got the OEM LG cable and both ports worked with FAST charge. So I tried one more thing, I grabbed a regular USB cable and observed the following: the phone went into FAST charge on the apple port and SLOW charge on the non-apple port. I can only assume that LG is detecting fast charge in a different way. The fact that a standard USB cable doesn't work with the data pins shorted at the charger but the OEM cable does makes me think there is something about LG's cable that allows it to pull max power from the charger. FYI, I plugged the OEM LG cable into a 850mA Motorola AC charger and it registered as SLOW charge.

kyler13 said:
To short the data pins, I actually cut a USB cable, stripped back the insulator, re-soldered the +5V and ground wires, soldered together the data pins on the microUSB side of the cable, and stagger cut the data wires on the other side. Prior to the re-soldering, I slipped some shrink tubing on one end of the cable to re-insulate everything. Not for the faint of heart.
Background for those that don't know... Typically, Android phones look for little to no resistance on the data pins to detect a high current charger. Any other load triggers USB mode since most PC's are only designed to supply 500mA via USB. I assume this is a safety issue to prevent overdrawing a PC's port. Apple operates differently. They look for some nominal resistance as USB and switch to fast charge under open or some higher resistance. Most chargers >500mA are designed for the iPhone market unless they explicitly state other compatibility. Therefore, the data pins are floating. Any charger can be used at its max rating if you trick the Android phone with the homemade cable described above. Of course, then it becomes a power-only cable, useless for data. Clearly, OEM chargers for Android phones short the data pins internally so your OEM cable can be used with a wall charger (fast) or with your PC for data connections and nominal (slow) charging.
So the powergen mentioned above has two 2.1A ports, one labeled NA (non-apple) and A (apple) so you don't need to worry about mix-n-match devices and cables. Any USB cable will fast charge on the appropriate port. With my homemade cable above, my Galaxy Nexus will fast charge on either port.
Fast forward to the G2... Just got it yesterday and while in the car, I noticed my homemade cable only permitted SLOW charge on either port. Huh. Kinda a head scratcher. I ran in the house and got the OEM LG cable and both ports worked with FAST charge. So I tried one more thing, I grabbed a regular USB cable and observed the following: the phone went into FAST charge on the apple port and SLOW charge on the non-apple port. I can only assume that LG is detecting fast charge in a different way. The fact that a standard USB cable doesn't work with the data pins shorted at the charger but the OEM cable does makes me think there is something about LG's cable that allows it to pull max power from the charger. FYI, I plugged the OEM LG cable into a 850mA Motorola AC charger and it registered as SLOW charge.
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I have pretty much the same thing, had a cable that would only do slow charge, so I stripped the wires back, and on the micro usb side I cut the green and white(data) and twisted them together. Now its fast charge no matter what charger I plug this cable into.... not sure why urs isn't....

My AT&T branded charger doesn't give me the slow charge notification.
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droidiac13 said:
My AT&T branded charger doesn't give me the slow charge notification.
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Yes, but its not a 2 amp charger. We want a bigger fast charge vehicle charger...

I tried the USB plug in my car (Scion 2012) and two different Belkin cigarette/USB chargers today. The USB and one of the Belkins gave slow charging. The other Belkin did not -- worked fine. They were supposed to be identical, but I had suspected one was a fake. Guess I was right.

I just use the usb cable that came with their phone and plug it into my auto usb or the car's 110 outlet.
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Tylt. Flat ribbon charger works.
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No wireless charging?

Since it has a titanium body, it looks like Wireless charging will be missed
Or will it?
It look like it has a charging pad, BUT it looks like it will a magnetic connector will allow Qi-ish like charging where you lay it down without having to connect a usb cable, but the back docking pins will charge the phone. When charged you just pick it up and go without having to disconnect anything, WHICH I FREAKING LOVE ABOUT MY QI wireless charging right now with my Nexus 6.

The back is ceramic, not titanium. So it could work, and does work, but you need to connect with their pins for the phone to recognize the pad. It's wireless but I think without the pins it doesn't work. We will have to wait and see..
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Since there's no headphone jack, it would be nice if there were a way to charge the phone and have a 3.5 mm jack plugged in to the USB jack at the same time. Especially in the car.

cb474 said:
Since there's no headphone jack, it would be nice if there were a way to charge the phone and have a 3.5 mm jack plugged in to the USB jack at the same time. Especially in the car.
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Just buy a cheap $15 Bluetooth aux. No more wires in my car, besides the charger if I need it.

You know, The phone supports Wireless USB. How exactly do you suppose they accomplish that? Its already been stated by Andy that the two connection points are magnetic for aligning accessories. Now, I don't think anyone knows for SURE how this phone's tech actually works yet. Since Andy went on record to say this tech will be open source, who is to say this wireless communication couldn't support Qi charging with a software update. It's entirely possible that this phone supports that out of the box. Really I am not confident that this could be answered with a " yes it does" or "no it does not" quite yet. Unless I am uninformed? can anyone else chime in?
EDIT** pins do provide power infact too.

When the phone website first launched there was an accessory for a wireless charging dock that said coming soon..... It's not there anymore. I thought it was supposed to transmit power thru the connector pins. But maybe the pins only transfer power from phone to accessory not accessory to phone.

bsg411 said:
When the phone website first launched there was an accessory for a wireless charging dock that said coming soon..... It's not there anymore.
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It is still there, when scrolling down the webpage. The image is of the phone lowering to rest in plate charger, to get juice via the two pins on back of phone.

lpasq said:
It is still there, when scrolling down the webpage. The image is of the phone lowering to rest in plate charger, to get juice via the two pins on back of phone.
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Your right.... It is still there....I overlooked it. Well I'm not really sure why every review says there's no wireless charging. Assuming this dock actually comes out.... It is charging without a cord/wire... Which is essentially wireless charging. It's just not qi wireless charging technology.... It could basically be described as proprietary wireless charging.

cb474 said:
Since there's no headphone jack, it would be nice if there were a way to charge the phone and have a 3.5 mm jack plugged in to the USB jack at the same time. Especially in the car.
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I was reading an interview and Andy indicated one of the next adapters for the phone after the camera is car audio integration.
I wonder what that is?
My BMW uses USB storage so I don't even bother with the phone.

tech_head said:
I was reading an interview and Andy indicated one of the next adapters for the phone after the camera is car audio integration.
I wonder what that is?
My BMW uses USB storage so I don't even bother with the phone.
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It will be interesting to see what they do with the adapters. If they do that, I hope it includes a 3.5mm jack. For a lot of people that's still the only way they have to tap into their car audio system.

I am pretty sure the 2 pins are just for power, and any wireless bit is through the 60hz system which is more than likely data only.
So no Wireless charging parse', but with the dock, it has fancy pin charging lol.
I do also look forward to seeing what else they use that expansion ability for. Heck If they wanted to add a headphone port to the phone how easy would it be to just build a slim plate that attached to it that barely is thicker than the port itself, but is a bit wider to include a nice DAC and AMP? Doesn't take up the USB port for charging and could have really good audio to boot. The possibilities are endless and unlike some of the other modular designs, this one seems to make good sense and not be an eyesore when not in use.

Wireless data transfer and wireless charging are not even remotely the same thing. Data transfer is radio waves with a transmitter and receiver. Qi charging is electromagnetic induction (a magnetic field around a coil of wire will induce a voltage in the wire).

Dash Charge Cable

How does USB cable influences charge of speed? Why DASH speed charging works with the red USB cable provided by manufacturer, but not my other USB3 cables?
Does the cable have to be some some special kind, i.e. sort of certification or whatever? I would really like to use longer (i.e. 1.5 - 2 metres) cable from my charger, but all the cables I have and tried, plugged into official charger, does not support fast charge.
Thanks for answers!

vector88 said:
How does USB cable influences charge of speed? Why DASH speed charging works with the red USB cable provided by manufacturer, but not my other USB3 cables?
Does the cable have to be some some special kind, i.e. sort of certification or whatever? I would really like to use longer (i.e. 1.5 - 2 metres) cable from my charger, but all the cables I have and tried, plugged into official charger, does not support fast charge.
Thanks for answers!
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That is mostly cause of a resistance between the wires which voltage drop indicates its a cable that meets the requirements. That is the common practice for such proprietary accessories.
Maybe someone has time to measure this and/or cut his original cable and find the resistor, I need mine
I'm sure it's that method.

vector88 said:
How does USB cable influences charge of speed? Why DASH speed charging works with the red USB cable provided by manufacturer, but not my other USB3 cables?
Does the cable have to be some some special kind, i.e. sort of certification or whatever? I would really like to use longer (i.e. 1.5 - 2 metres) cable from my charger, but all the cables I have and tried, plugged into official charger, does not support fast charge.
Thanks for answers!
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You can buy a third party one cheaply from ali express. They work like the proprietary ones and there's also a 1.5m option. I personally haven't found any drops in charging speed at all.

Look in the USB-A side of the cable, there is an extra pin above the 4 normal USB pins which signals dash charging.

skanadian said:
Look in the USB-A side of the cable, there is an extra pin above the 4 normal USB pins which signals dash charging.
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Yeah, that can be the reason!