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Hey guys,
did anyone notice, that after rooting and/or installing the google apps, the wlan is always enabled, even when you turn off the screen?
This is pretty annoying to me, because the battery usage is much higher.
With wlan disabled the kindle battery usage is pretty low. It uses near to no power while in standby but when the google apps are installed (and therefor wlan is always enable) i loose up to 10 - 20% battery over night.
Is there anything i can do about this? Is there a way to figure out what exactly keeps the wlan from shutting down?
Thx
You happen to find anything else about this? First I saw of it.
This is actually a good thing in my opinion...
Hey again,
teookie, yes i know, to one its a bug to the other a feature but i prefer the old behavior and save some battery.
And finally i found the root of my evil.
An unknown app changed the wifi sleep settings. Sadly amazon removed this option from the settings dialog so you have to change it by hand in the settings.db .
Have a look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19676566#post19676566
In step 16. change the value to "0".
You can also change the value "wifi_idle_ms" (in the "secure" folder) to something lower e.g. "5000" (5 seconds), to disable wifi even faster.
Now everything works like before, the only missing thing is the app that changed it.
If you are on Stock Motorola Lollipop 5.0.2, check your Battery History in System Settings - you may notice Wi-Fi is constantly active, even when you turn it off.
In my case, the following setting in Viber was the cause: Settings > General > Wi-Fi sleep policy > Change to 'Use device's settings'
Instructions:
Firstly, go to: Settings > Wi-Fi > Advanced Wi-Fi > Keep Wi-Fi on during sleep > Change to 'Never.'
The issue appears to be that certain apps are keeping Wi-Fi active in Lollipop. Not every app may offer this setting related to 'sleep policy', a workaround is to use the App Settings Xposed Module - which allows you to disable such a permission for individual apps.
The permission can be known as: Change_Network_State.
After making these changes you may need to turn off Wi-Fi and restart phone.
Related: https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=79368
Thanks . it solve my real problem.
i have question. If we have change Keep Wi-Fi on during sleep to 'Never.' Will programs like Whatsapp or Viber get the gcm notifications when phone is going to sleep?
Dizzyrul3z said:
i have question. If we have change Keep Wi-Fi on during sleep to 'Never.' Will programs like Whatsapp or Viber get the gcm notifications when phone is going to sleep?
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This is true, when phone sleeps - there is no Wi-Fi data connection.
Rather than leaving Wi-Fi on however, some people might prefer the phone wakes up every 15 minutes / 30 minutes / 1 hour, and enables Wi-Fi for 1 minute - allowing any messages to arrive. Many apps can do this, one example is DS Battery Saver.
There is also an argument that if you use Wi-Fi a lot, it's better to leave Wi-Fi on during sleep, because excessively enabling and disabling it is costly in terms of battery-life.
I've been using stock Lollipop on XT1008(Moto G Forte, I read it was just a "commercial" variant of the XT1032).
As far as I can tell, my phone doesn't report high Wi-Fi usage, but I disabled an option that I think it´s more responsible than the one mentioned here, that's "Search Always Available", this one was turning on my wifi when I even shut it down, wasting more battery than keeping it on.
Currently, my phone has been on like 13 hours and has 13% left, with a WiFi usage around 85% of the time.
Thanks for making us aware of that option in Viber.
But even after disabling that option in Viber, in the battery graphic seems like wi-fi is always active. Is it because I will also need to set "Keep Wi-Fi on during sleep" to "never"? But if it's set to never, doesn't it mean that when phone screen is off, it automatically switches off wi-fi even if you kept it on from the toggle?
lollerblade said:
Thanks for making us aware of that option in Viber.
But even after disabling that option in Viber, in the battery graphic seems like wi-fi is always active. Is it because I will also need to set "Keep Wi-Fi on during sleep" to "never"? But if it's set to never, doesn't it mean that when phone screen is off, it automatically switches off wi-fi even if you kept it on from the toggle?
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Yes, 'never' means Wi-Fi is off when phone is sleeping. There is also the advance Wi-Fi option 'Scanning always available - which' you might want to disable.
Double check you have changed the setting in Viber, and you may need to reboot phone. It's also possible another app is causing Wi-Fi to always be active, for some it's Whatsapp.
lost101 said:
Yes, 'never' means Wi-Fi is off when phone is sleeping. There is also the advance Wi-Fi option 'Scanning always available - which' you might want to disable.
Double check you have changed the setting in Viber, and you may need to reboot phone. It's also possible another app is causing Wi-Fi to always be active, for some it's Whatsapp.
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Ok so that option works as I thought, so for correctly receiving notifications with screen off it should be set on "always". I double checked on Viber's option and it's set correctly, then rebooted, plus scanning always available is off, geolocation (which can keep wi-fi on) is off and apparently there are no things that can keep wi-fi on.
Whatsapp does not allow to set wi-fi behavior, and the strange thing is that I have the same apps I had on Kitkat, where I didn't have such problem of viewing in battery graphic.
I am having the doubt if this may be only a Lollipop graphic issue or if wi-fi actually stays on...
lollerblade said:
Whatsapp does not allow to set wi-fi behavior, and the strange thing is that I have the same apps I had on Kitkat, where I didn't have such problem of viewing in battery graphic.
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That's why I mention the 'App Settings' module in OP. I believe Whatsapp can and does cause this issue - there is just no setting within the app itself. You can check what permissions apps have by using 'App Settings.'
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That's why I mention the 'App Settings' module in OP. I believe Whatsapp can and does cause this issue. You can check what permissions apps have by using 'App Settings.'
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Mmm yes I saw that...but I'm guessing that without root there's nothing else to do, right?
lollerblade said:
Mmm yes I saw that...but I'm guessing that without root there's nothing else to do, right?
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No. Root would be necessary for changing permissions. However this issue may have been resolved in Android 5.1 - removing the need for this fix.
Wifi should be lefy alone as default to "never sleep"
Wifi should never sleep, even if the phone's cpu sleeps. Wifi will receive messages from whatsapp or whatever and wake up the cpu.
But if you put wifi chip to sleep, the phone will connect using 2g or worse, 3g or HSPA, and drain even more battery.
Wifi comes by default to "never sleep" for this reason, it is more battery efficient than 2g/3g.
And if you dont have wifi at home, all you have to do is slide down the menu and turn of Wifi. No need to change internal configuration on behaviour who only make things worse.
On the other hand, Viber is known for years to be a battery abuser.
I have been using android for years, and wifi policy was always the same, and my phones have idle times of several days
i even published some screen shots of my moto defy and moto G with a full week Idle without charging.with whatsapp and Wifi polocy never sleep.. With viber i wouldnt even try to make it last 2 days.
This is starting to annoy me. At work and home I'm on wifi all the time. It is faster, less latency, and is all around better than Sprint LTE here.
The v20 likes to toggle off my wifi when screen is off. Which I could understand if say overnight and not used for 8 hours....but simply at work here, 30 minutes or an hour-wifi, wake the screen, is toggled off. Which wouldn't be bad if the phone toggled-on when I woke it up...Which if it did I wouldn't be posting. I've so far tried disabling all the wifi "power saving" toggles in Wifi>Advanced still does it.
Note it doesn't seem correlated to signal strength. I'll be in the same room as the router, and it'll toggle-off wifi. Even tried setting up a Smart Location to keep wifi on-didn't help.
Ideas? Exorcisms?
Skripka said:
This is starting to annoy me. At work and home I'm on wifi all the time. It is faster, less latency, and is all around better than Sprint LTE here.
The v20 likes to toggle off my wifi when screen is off. Which I could understand if say overnight and not used for 8 hours....but simply at work here, 30 minutes or an hour-wifi, wake the screen, is toggled off. Which wouldn't be bad if the phone toggled-on when I woke it up...Which if it did I wouldn't be posting. I've so far tried disabling all the wifi "power saving" toggles in Wifi>Advanced still does it.
Note it doesn't seem correlated to signal strength. I'll be in the same room as the router, and it'll toggle-off wifi. Even tried setting up a Smart Location to keep wifi on-didn't help.
Ideas? Exorcisms?
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I'm sure you've already done this, but in Wifi>Advanced, under "useful settings (tmobile version, anyway)," there's an option for "Keep Wi-Fi on when screen is off." Make sure that's set to yes.
What ocelot4ark mentioned, under advance > Keep wifi on during sleep set to always.
ocelot4ark said:
I'm sure you've already done this, but in Wifi>Advanced, under "useful settings (tmobile version, anyway)," there's an option for "Keep Wi-Fi on when screen is off." Make sure that's set to yes.
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Yup already set to "Yes".
You might have those fake apps which claim to increase your speed
Check all your smart settings as well... There are a few possibilities for auto shut off in there as well
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Skripka said:
This is starting to annoy me. At work and home I'm on wifi all the time. It is faster, less latency, and is all around better than Sprint LTE here.
The v20 likes to toggle off my wifi when screen is off. Which I could understand if say overnight and not used for 8 hours....but simply at work here, 30 minutes or an hour-wifi, wake the screen, is toggled off. Which wouldn't be bad if the phone toggled-on when I woke it up...Which if it did I wouldn't be posting. I've so far tried disabling all the wifi "power saving" toggles in Wifi>Advanced still does it.
Note it doesn't seem correlated to signal strength. I'll be in the same room as the router, and it'll toggle-off wifi. Even tried setting up a Smart Location to keep wifi on-didn't help.
Ideas? Exorcisms?
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Mine's been doing the same thing since I got it on 10/18. Factory reset didn't fix it. Drives me nuts when I'm casting and I unlock the screen, I have to reconnect it to whatever I am casting. And yes the first thing I checked was to make sure wifi was set to always on.
My Wi-Fi is also ****ing around now. Anyone have a solution yet? This is getting stupid now.
Hi,
My H990DS has been bothering me for a couple of days as WiFi turns itself on without any kind of intervention.
Turning it off manually or having the phone restart does not help. I made sure the latest apps installed make no impact.
Playing with Developer Options made no difference.
I am ready to Factory Data reset.
Anyone experienced something similar ?
Thanks,
My 918 always shows wifi active in GSAM's graph, even when set to "Never" under the "Wifi on while inactive" option in system settings. I ended up just downloading Leandroid from the play store and setting it to disable the wifi radio, and renable it periodically to check for push messages. Seems to work fine with doze and standby time has improved.
Under settings, location, three dots top right, scanning, turn wifi scanning off. It turns back on anytime you use wifi and you manually have to turn it back off each time.
Mine (918) does this all the time. Im thinking its a 7.0 thing. There has been a few exceptions where it has stayed off. In my case I drive through a busy section in town and it constantly connects to the 20 or so open wifi spots so I turn it off. Well once I pull into the garage at home its magically back on.
Maybe something to do with networks it recognizes, Xfinity wifi wreaks havoc on it as well.
As soon as I uninstalled the latest apps, the issue disappeared. Not a single exception in 24 hours.
I suspect a Sip Client had caused the problem.
Gytole said:
Under settings, location, three dots top right, scanning, turn wifi scanning off. It turns back on anytime you use wifi and you manually have to turn it back off each time.
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What!?
That sounds utterly horific for the battery, nevermind privacy concerns. I thankfully haven't experienced anything similar myself, but I've only ever used custom ROMs so perhaps that's the cause. But that sounds terrible.
Hi folks,
I've got the 6013 model in the US, running on AT&T, completely stock never rooted, fully updated to 10.3.11. Either the most recent update, or the one before that, seems to have caused an issue where texts sent to me overnight or in early morning before I first use the phone never show up. I've missed some important notifications due to this. The worst thing is they NEVER show up... they aren't just delayed until I wake the phone up. After I start using the phone, new texts make it through just fine. The phone seems to be sleeping deeper or something and not getting any of these cellular-based texts. Emails and other notifications based on wifi internet seem to be showing up fine.
Do not disturb is NOT enabled (and, I've tried toggling it on and off without change). This has been going on for weeks or longer, multiple reboots, etc.. I've checked my default texting app (Textra) and the phone's built-in Messages app... the texts aren't in either app. They just never show up.
What else can I look into to check the cause of this and hopefully a fix?
Thanks!
As a test today, I sent a text from my work phone to my personal OnePlus when I got up (late! Father's Day!) before interacting with my OnePlus at all. It did receive the text just fine. I think the cellular radio may be on some timer and going to sleep / waking up on some sort of schedule. Where are the settings for controlling this kind of thing? I haven't messed with this phone's settings much... it just worked fine out of the box and ever since for the last two and a half years until recent update messed this text thing up.
Further information: In Settings, Battery, Battery Saver is OFF (I've never enabled this) and under battery optimization I noticed Textra was set for Intelligent Control; I've toggled this to Don't Optimize. "Messages" was not present; I never use it.
Is there anything else to try? Note that the phone is plugged in and fully charged at the time these issues are occurring.
Frankenscript said:
Is there anything else to try?
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Dude, not sure but hope it will work,
anyway trying will cost nothing...
Go to settings > battery > battery optimization >
hit on upper right 3 dots and select advanced optimization,
then be sure " SLEEP STANDBY OPTIMIZATION"
is toggled OFF.
Try again and cross your finger...
Cheers
Dadditz said:
Dude, not sure but hope it will work,
anyway trying will cost nothing...
Go to settings > battery > battery optimization >
hit on upper right 3 dots and select advanced optimization,
then be sure " SLEEP STANDBY OPTIMIZATION"
is toggled OFF.
Try again and cross your finger...
Cheers
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Thanks @Dadditz , that was already off. Sigh. Not sure why this happens. I've tested when I get up at 7 am, sending a text from another phone, and my 6T receives it, but during the darker hours of the night, no joy. Thanks for the reply, though.
Just as a follow up, the problem seems intermittent. I got some 4 am texts from my sump alarm when the wifi went down briefly. No idea what's going on, but it's intermittent rather than constant.