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Rooting the mobile looks so complex compared to my GS2 where It is all automatic and simple. I've read the guide and it's way over my head, I'm sorry but stupid people exist and the guide is not easy to follow in the slightest.
I just want to make it so if I have two fingers side by side and I swipe up and down, it hides and reveals the on screen buttons. Obviously I don't want it to be one finger as you use one finger for many things on the screen, however two would be perfect for this function.
I don't understand why google haven't done or just built hardware buttons in the bottom part that has no function other than a tiny led which should be at the top really. I just want to be able to hide them simply like this without any cumbersome apps installed or having to root and use some crazy rom which is so complex to do on this phone.
Is it possible at all to make the phone function like this?
As far as I know, there's no way to do that on the stock ROM.
You could use either of these toolkits to unlock and root this phone. They're both really easy to use and the instructions are precise.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2015469
or
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1995688
After unlocking, rooting and installing a custom recovery, you can then flash a ROM that supports expanded desktop. I know paranoidandroid does and perhaps other ROMs do as well. I'm not sure of any of them allow the nav buttons to be hidden by a gesture but there's usually an option in the power menu to expand the desktop and maybe there's even a way to allow gestures to do it with a mod or launcher or something. But that would only be possible on a custom ROM that allows this in the first place.
Edit: Here's another even simpler root solution
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2025274
What is the difference between unlock and root and do you have to do both?
Ain't there no way just to like download a registry file like Windows and suddenly it'll have the function?
People always go on about Stock Android but it's ****, touchwiz would never have these stupid onscreen buttons and not let you hide them.
Rooting Nexus devices is literally the SIMPLEST thing to do. Quite simply, if you don't know how to root a Nexus device, you shouldn't have one.
tatltael said:
As far as I know, there's no way to do that on the stock ROM.
You could use either of these toolkits to unlock and root this phone. They're both really easy to use and the instructions are precise.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2015469
or
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1995688
After unlocking, rooting and installing a custom recovery, you can then flash a ROM that supports expanded desktop. I know paranoidandroid does and perhaps other ROMs do as well. I'm not sure of any of them allow the nav buttons to be hidden by a gesture but there's usually an option in the power menu to expand the desktop and maybe there's even a way to allow gestures to do it with a mod or launcher or something. But that would only be possible on a custom ROM that allows this in the first place.
Edit: Here's another even simpler root solution
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2025274
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I've used your second link which was easy enough.
However I have no idea how to install a Rom on this device.
Seriously with the GS2 the only thing I can remember doing was using Odin, it was so easy.
Is there nothing easy I can install after this instead of having to load Paranoid Android which I have no clue how to do?
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I use secure settings and tasker to hide them while in car dock mode. Works pretty well. Make sure you have the option in the power menu though or you will not be getting out of it unless you have an exit task haha.
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However I have no idea how to install a Rom on this device.
Seriously with the GS2 the only thing I can remember doing was using Odin, it was so easy.
Is there nothing easy I can install after this instead of having to load Paranoid Android which I have no clue how to do?
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I used to have a galaxy s and a galaxy s2. I used to use odin and flash ROMs the way you claim is 'easy'. Trust me, ever since i got my galaxy nexus, and now the N4, the thought of going back to the odin days makes me shudder.
Flashing roms and kernels on nexus devices is so much easier and hassle free. All you need is the custom recovery on your phone and you'll never need to hook it up to a PC again to flash anything. Just download the required ROM files from the thread. Boot into recovery, make a nandroid backup and then flash the ROM zips. Do a full data/cache wipe if needed and you're set.
And by the way, there are much more detailed instructions available in this forum if you care to use the search function.
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I use secure settings and tasker to hide them while in car dock mode. Works pretty well. Make sure you have the option in the power menu though or you will not be getting out of it unless you have an exit task haha.
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in secure setting it falls under "custom ROM" category so there is no way to do it in stock?
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I used to have a galaxy s and a galaxy s2. I used to use odin and flash ROMs the way you claim is 'easy'. Trust me, ever since i got my galaxy nexus, and now the N4, the thought of going back to the odin days makes me shudder.
Flashing roms and kernels on nexus devices is so much easier and hassle free. All you need is the custom recovery on your phone and you'll never need to hook it up to a PC again to flash anything. Just download the required ROM files from the thread. Boot into recovery, make a nandroid backup and then flash the ROM zips. Do a full data/cache wipe if needed and you're set.
And by the way, there are much more detailed instructions available in this forum if you care to use the search function.
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Do I need to make a Backup? Just this phone has such small storage.
Can't I just flash a stock rom later if I need to send it back?
Trust downloading a file, loading it in Odin and clicking a button is much easier than this lol. Never even knew what Custom Recovery was or any of this stuff lol.
Start learning and reading rather than throwing your hands up exclaiming "it's hard" and walking away.
The info is literally all available in the stickied guide at the top of this forum.
If you try as you read...you'll have no problem doing it.
I've literally sat my incompetent mother down...the woman who didn't realize you had to SWIPE to answer a phone call...and was unable to answercalls for over a year on her Droid X because of it...
I opened my guide and told her to take my stock phone and unlock and get a ROM running on it.
Took her less than an hour.
And touch wiz wouldn't have this stupid implementation?
On screen keys are going to be on more than just nexus devices someday.
You're the one who doesn't understand it.
Post two of the guide.
Get your learn on.
If you think stock android is ****, why bother buying the phone and not an S3? Odin is such a pain in the ass because you have to be tied to a computer and Odin files are upwards of 600mb. How you had an S2 and never used anything other than Odin is amazing because any ROM worth flashing on the i9100 was flashed through recovery.
There is no way to hide the buttons with a gesture. Follow the toolkit to root and unlock, then spend five minutes learning to flash a ROM and flash one with expanded desktop.
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Curious about that as well.
SIII is an excellent phone.
I suggest OP returns this one and picks the SIII up.
But actually...
There kind of is a NavBar toggle gesture possibility.
AOKP has a navbar toggle as an "AOKP Action."
You can then use a LMTPie gesture to set that action.
Or wait a couple weeks until the upcoming NavRing without NavBar is finished and use the custom NavRing action to set the toggle...
You can currently do this, really. But turning it back on would require a long press of the power button and tapping the toggle.
Venekor said:
Rooting the mobile looks so complex compared to my GS2 where It is all automatic and simple. I've read the guide and it's way over my head, I'm sorry but stupid people exist and the guide is not easy to follow in the slightest.
I just want to make it so if I have two fingers side by side and I swipe up and down, it hides and reveals the on screen buttons. Obviously I don't want it to be one finger as you use one finger for many things on the screen, however two would be perfect for this function.
I don't understand why google haven't done or just built hardware buttons in the bottom part that has no function other than a tiny led which should be at the top really. I just want to be able to hide them simply like this without any cumbersome apps installed or having to root and use some crazy rom which is so complex to do on this phone.
Is it possible at all to make the phone function like this?
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I hope you must have learned to root your phone now.
This app - GMD GestureControl will give you an option to use the entire screen, and use various multi-finger gestures instead. However, I am not aware of any single ROM/APP which will give you an option to hide on screen buttons based on gesture.
Your options are:
1. Use an app [forgot the name, will let you know if you are interested], which will disable your onscreen buttons, and then use GMD GestureControl for interacting with the screen.
2. Custom ROM's such as Cyanogenmod, AOKP, PA etc, which have an option to hide your onscreen buttons on long pressing the power button. [ pressing the power button shows the on-screen buttons again].
3. PA additionally has an option to disable/enable on-screen buttons based on the application. [for eg. you can disable it for all games/image viewer etc.]
PS: Please note I am using Galaxy SII and am yet to receive the device. So, whatever I stated is based on reading about it. Haven't really tried any of those stuffs. So, others please correct me if I am wrong.
the aokp rom has aokp actions. nova prime launcher has getsure control that can use the aokp action to toggle dock.
I'm have slight buyers remorse, but I have a few more days till I can't return it for a full refund. I hoping to find out if any of the issue I have with the Note 3 or more accurately touchwiz will be able to be solved. I'm coming from a history of running customs ROMS on my galaxy S1 and galaxy S2, most of the time cyaogenmod. Lucky I find touchwiz has improved but here are my over all gripes:
Can't change the vibration pattern for notifications, most importantly text messages and emails. You can create customs patterns but they are only for calls. This is my biggest problem right now. And the fact that clearing a message from the notification bar doesn't mark it as read is annoying.
I would love on screen buttons, with this much screen restate it's a great phone for on screen buttons, I also find getting low enough to press the capacitive buttons with my thumb and still holding the phone a bit difficult and I think I would have no trouble if there was on screen buttons. - SoftKey Enabler, requires root- https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.fatedevgroup.softkeyenabler&feature=search_result
Home buttons wakes the phone - Fixable by mod or wanam http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2477150
Double home press open magazine - Settings in Magazine, gesture disable can be done by freezing magazine in titanium
Replace S Voice with google voice. - Freeze with titanium then use double tap to get to google voice
Remove all toggles from notification area, have all the toggles in the toggle pane
Remove the persitant icons from the task bar (blocking mode, smart stay, NFC)
All logs in phone log - fixable with app - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.samsung.log.converter.ics
I really got used and liked the pop up/quick message window option that cyaogenmod had. I would like that along with the removal of chat bubbles.
I also liked black/Holo design, I sure this can and will come some how. Also we'll see how kitkat ends up looking...
How likely is it that my gripes with touchwiz can be fixed, yet still stay on touchwiz framework due to not wanting to lose functionality? I am aware it will require root and most likely a custom ROM, but if I was able to start out with just some modifications to stock rom, that might be a good start. I might find out but 1-4 are my biggest complaints. I love the note 3's hardware, but I'm hoping the roms/touchwiz won't push me toward the nexus 5....
One additional question, all these model numbers are confusing as hell. I have the N900W8, will that hinder my ability to use custom roms? Is it an equivalent to another model number? (X-Note is the only roms I've seen so far the explicitly says its compatible with the 900W8)
Answer:
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Since Canadian users can flash T-Mobile and N9005 ROM.
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From: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2497263
All suggestions welcome.
Edited with solutions in blue. I haven't tried them yet
If you open Magazine and hit menu, then choose Settings, you can turn the double home press off from in there.
The swipe from the bottom gesture can't be disabled short of doing something like freezing Magazine with Titanium Backup.
bnevets27 said:
I'm have slight buyers remorse, but I have a few more days till I can't return it for a full refund. I hoping to find out if any of the issue I have with the Note 3 or more accurately touchwiz will be able to be solved. I'm coming from a history of running customs ROMS on my galaxy S1 and galaxy S2, most of the time cyaogenmod. Lucky I find touchwiz has improved but here are my over all gripes:
I would love on screen buttons, with this much screen restate it's a great phone for on screen buttons, I also find getting low enough to press the capacitive buttons with my thumb and still holding the phone a bit difficult and I think I would have no trouble if there was on screen buttons
Can't change the vibration pattern for notifications, most importantly text messages and emails. You can create customs patterns but they are only for calls.
Home buttons wakes the phone - I did read somewhere this was able to be disabled
Double home press open magazine
Replace S Voice with google voice.
Remove all toggles from notification area, have all the toggles in the toggle pane
Remove the persitant icons from the task bar (blocking mode, smart stay, NFC)
All logs in phone log - fixable with app, easiest one yet.
How likely is it that my gripes with touchwiz can be fixed, yet still stay on touchwiz framework due to not wanting to lose functionality? I am aware it will require root and most likely a custom ROM, but if I was able to start out with just some modifications to stock rom, that might be a good start. I might find out but 1-4 are my biggest complaints. I love the note 3's hardware, but I'm hoping the roms/touchwiz won't push me toward the nexus 5....
One additional question, all these model numbers are confusing as hell. I have the N900W8, will that hinder my ability to use custom roms? Is it an equivalent to another model number? (X-Note is the only roms I've seen so far the explicitly says its compatible with the 900W8)
All suggestions welcome.
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would love to know the solutions to this list as well!
wilflare said:
would love to know the solutions to this list as well!
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A fwlew of these things are easily fixed with xposed wanam module. You need to be rooted though. As for Google voice, freeze svoice (maybe you can just clear defaults, but I froze it) then when you double tap home, you'll be given options in what you want that to do.
bnevets27 said:
I would love on screen buttons, with this much screen restate it's a great phone for on screen buttons, I also find getting low enough to press the capacitive buttons with my thumb and still holding the phone a bit difficult and I think I would have no trouble if there was on screen buttons
Remove all toggles from notification area, have all the toggles in the toggle pane
All logs in phone log - fixable with app, easiest one yet.
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looking how to change these. hmm
Hi Forum,
I have a bit a problem with my newly upgraded Note 3. Been searching online for a while now and not getting anywhere, so I thought I might start a post here to ask the experts and hope it would help some others with the same problem. Thank you all in advanced.
I have installed the leaked 5.0 rom on my note 3 only recently and everything seems to be working perfectly fine except I can no longer able to use the swipe down gesture to pull down the notification bar. At first, I thought it was the 3rd party launcher I am using that has compatible issue, but after the trying out 2 other different launchers (even paid for one), the problem still exists.
Basically, if I move my finger all the way up to the top and pull it down, it will work, but if I use the swipe down anywhere gesture offered by 3rd party launchers, it will not. And yes, I have tried different gesture options but none of them works.
Given Note 3 is a large phone and I have been using the same way to pull down my notification bar for many many years, it's very inconvenient for me to operate the phone now. And I am pretty sure there's many more out there with the problem who would understand the frustration I am having now.
I am not sure if it's the rom or if there's anything in regards of the settings... if anyone knows anything about how to fix this. it will be really great!
Anyone? Any ideas? Please?
This is a discussion to compare these two systems for our phone who has more new and practical function.
gentr said:
This is a discussion to compare these two systems for our phone who has more new and practical function.
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I am using RR (cm13) since months, and it runs really great, but I am also looking to try a debloated stock imperium soon ?
Any comparisations are welcome.
pOpY
Gesendet von meinem LG-H815 mit Tapatalk
I used imperium rom since I bought my LG g4... Some day ago I switched to cm13... Except some bugs like the switch 3g/lte that doesn't work automatically and the bug with encryption cm13 is more battery friendly and smoother then the imperium with the same application installed.
Aldideos said:
I used imperium rom since I bought my LG g4... Some day ago I switched to cm13... Except some bugs like the switch 3g/lte that doesn't work automatically and the bug with encryption cm13 is more battery friendly and smoother then the imperium with the same application installed.
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Sei un grande!
You are the boss!
Aldideos said:
I used imperium rom since I bought my LG g4... Some day ago I switched to cm13... Except some bugs like the switch 3g/lte that doesn't work automatically and the bug with encryption cm13 is more battery friendly and smoother then the imperium with the same application installed.
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What future settings you get on cm expect the smooth, regarding a stock based rom can you be more detailed
These are my experiences based on months of G4 (H815) use with both stock-based (Imperium and Genisys) and CM13.
Stock-Based ROM:
- Amazing camera, especially if you can properly use manual mode
- Good audio quality
- Still has more bloatware than needed (even the best ones like Imperium)
- Slower security patches
CM13:
- Noticeably smoother and lighter
- More battery
- Camera is still very good but you lose manual mode
- Very fast security updates (like google nexus)
- Will soon be updated to Android 7.0 Nougat
- Zero bloatware
- Audio quality is slightly lower
Hope this will help you!
Ps: both stock based and CM13 right now are 100% stable, if you hear people having issue they either 1) Haven't clean flashed or 2) they don't have H815
marn3us said:
These are my experiences based on months of G4 (H815) use with both stock-based (Imperium and Genisys) and CM13.
Stock-Based ROM:
- Amazing camera, especially if you can properly use manual mode
- Good audio quality
- Still has more bloatware than needed (even the best ones like Imperium)
- Slower security patches
CM13:
- Noticeably smoother and lighter
- More battery
- Camera is still very good but you lose manual mode
- Very fast security updates (like google nexus)
- Will soon be updated to Android 7.0 Nougat
- Zero bloatware
- Audio quality is slightly lower
Hope this will help you!
Ps: both stock based and CM13 right now are 100% stable, if you hear people having issue they either 1) Haven't clean flashed or 2) they don't have H815
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I'm looking for a OS "upgrade" too, but I'm aware of losing camera features... With CM can you still shoot raw?
siphid said:
I'm looking for a OS "upgrade" too, but I'm aware of losing camera features... With CM can you still shoot raw?
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With some apps yes
This is the wrong forum/place for this topic, but I'll throw my 2 cents out there as well. Everyone's phone is different, so I will try to simply point out software only differences. Also not to try and repeat what "marn3us" stated above. Pretty sure H815 or H811 don't matter, not with the comparison below.
For me, I really like the following
STOCK:
-In call floating pop up. Simply best feature I know, have not seen it on anything else really. While other end is ringing or talking, you can multi task and almost instantly get back to the call when they pick up or you're done doing other things. Sure w.out that floating bubble, one could pull down the notif panel but I personally find the bubble a bit more convenient (esp how you can move it around).
-VoLTE. I have LTE everywhere I live, so I like to take advantage of that. Also WifiCalling if I need it
-Lockscreen. I love how it works. If I have my phone in my pocket and somehow the screen gets turned on while I am trying to pull it out, if I accidentally tap a notification it does not automatically open. Stock lockscreen requires one tap of notif + full swipe then it will open that notif app. No way of accidentally opening apps showing notifications. Non-stock, double tap any notif and it opens...some ROMs are worse than others, with a broken prox sensor allowing you to open notifs even with screen off in your pocket...making all sorts of pocket activity (calls/text/etc.). The stock way of 'Click + Swipe below' for me works great. Also the prox sensor works 100% on stock ROMs so 100% of time in your pocket it will never have pocket action.
-Lockscreen Pt2: Double-tap to wake/sleep. Works almost every single time. I love the dt2s on LS (some ROMS do have this but with the bad way of simply double-tap a notif to open [on non-stock roms] sometimes I'll double tap the notification instead of turning my screen back off...errr.)
-Data/Service. I find stock has a much better response to reception. In some dead-zone places (like a basement), I have very low service. With non-stock, I almost always lose service completely in same area. Then it doesn't come back until I airplane toggle/leave dead-zone. Stock seems to give better reception everywhere.
-Incom Call Pop-up: Very nice with the ability to simply hide the pop-up and let the phone keep ringing. I found on non-stock there is no way to hide the pop up (actually maybe by a swipe now I think about it, though does that decline the call?).
For me, those 4-5 things are the main points why I cannot use anything other than Stock. Also for me, stock works perfectly fine. No lag and everything just works (I clear recents and restart every couple of days). I try new builds of non-stock all the time, a day or 2 then realize I am missing my fav features above so then I go back. I recently found out the LG SmartWorld app allows you to theme some parts of the UI (icons, fonts, some colors, etc.)..combined with the Tweaksbox, you can do some good Stock changes.
I never really had a problem with lag/performance. I also always used the Imperium kernel: http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/orig-development/kernel-imperium-kernel-g4-v1-0-t3282915 which seems to always do well for my phone. I also turn animations down to .5 in dev options, everytime I flash stock...makes it much quicker. I also know with stock, it's pretty much all optimized code for our phone...AOSP based miss a bunch of proprietary code which I think takes out some of the potential of this phone. Wish every company was like 1+, dev friendly.
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-Lockscreen. I love how it works. If I have my phone in my pocket and somehow the screen gets turned on while I am trying to pull it out, if I accidentally tap a notification it does not automatically open. Stock lockscreen requires one tap of notif + full swipe then it will open that notif app. No way of accidentally opening apps showing notifications. Non-stock, double tap any notif and it opens...some ROMs are worse than others, with a broken prox sensor allowing you to open notifs even with screen off in your pocket...making all sorts of pocket activity (calls/text/etc.). The stock way of 'Click + Swipe below' for me works great. Also the prox sensor works 100% on stock ROMs so 100% of time in your pocket it will never have pocket action.
-Lockscreen Pt2: Double-tap to wake/sleep. Works almost every single time. I love the dt2s on LS (some ROMS do have this but with the bad way of simply double-tap a notif to open [on non-stock roms] sometimes I'll double tap the notification instead of turning my screen back off...errr.)
-Data/Service. I find stock has a much better response to reception. In some dead-zone places (like a basement), I have very low service. With non-stock, I almost always lose service completely in same area. Then it doesn't come back until I airplane toggle/leave dead-zone. Stock seems to give better reception everywhere.
-Incom Call Pop-up: Very nice with the ability to simply hide the pop-up and let the phone keep ringing. I found on non-stock there is no way to hide the pop up (actually maybe by a swipe now I think about it, though does that decline the call?).
I never really had a problem with lag/performance. I also always used the Imperium kernel: http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/orig-development/kernel-imperium-kernel-g4-v1-0-t3282915 which seems to always do well for my phone. I also turn animations down to .5 in dev options, everytime I flash stock...makes it much quicker. I also know with stock, it's pretty much all optimized code for our phone...AOSP based miss a bunch of proprietary code which I think takes out some of the potential of this phone. Wish every company was like 1+, dev friendly.
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1) proximity sensor works great in CM13 as well, it's just turned off by default
Also, lockscreen in cm13 is faster than stock (less touch/swipe) and nothing of what you described (like app opening in pocket or similar) can happen because you have proximity sensor AND you must input the passcode before doing anything.
2) Double tap to sleep and double tap to wake work perfectly fine both in stock and cm13, no difference to me.
3) Data/service signal is exactly the same, works great both with cm13 and stock. Maybe you had older modem/baseband when you tried cm?
4) If you get a call in cm13 and want to let it ring while using the phone you can simply press home button and it'll return to home screen like any other app (leaving the call in the background).
5) Stock roms are quite laggy (except for genisys that is decent and imperium which is very good) but CM13 is noticeably faster
6) Proprietary code has an impact almost only on camera (no manual mode and slightly lower "auto" camera quality) and audio.
This is not meant to criticize stock roms (I have used imperium for months and I still switch to it when i travel and want amazing manual pictures). I was just saying that not all of your points were very accurate.
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1) proximity sensor works great in CM13 as well, it's just turned off by default
Also, lockscreen in cm13 is faster than stock (less touch/swipe) and nothing of what you described (like app opening in pocket or similar) can happen because you have proximity sensor AND you must input the passcode before doing anything.
2) Double tap to sleep and double tap to wake work perfectly fine both in stock and cm13, no difference to me.
3) Data/service signal is exactly the same, works great both with cm13 and stock. Maybe you had older modem/baseband when you tried cm?
4) If you get a call in cm13 and want to let it ring while using the phone you can simply press home button and it'll return to home screen like any other app (leaving the call in the background).
5) Stock roms are quite laggy (except for genisys that is decent and imperium which is very good) but CM13 is noticeably faster
6) Proprietary code has an impact almost only on camera (no manual mode and slightly lower "auto" camera quality) and audio.
This is not meant to criticize stock roms (I have used imperium for months and I still switch to it when i travel and want amazing manual pictures). I was just saying that not all of your points were very accurate.
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Ok. Your phone is your phone. And passcode? When did I say I used one?
Everything you just 'defended' non-stock for, I disagree 100%. I made my points for a reason.
For my phone, what I said was accurate. If stock doesn't work for you like that then you got a defunct phone.
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Ok. Your phone is your phone. And passcode? When did I say I used one?
Everything you just 'defended' non-stock for, I disagree 100%. I made my points for a reason.
For my phone, what I said was accurate. If stock doesn't work for you like that then you got a defunct phone.
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LOL, passcodes were invented for a reason
You look like a guy who doesn't pay much attention while reading other's posts so please stop posting here, we were trying to help the OP get *CORRECT* information to base his decision upon.
I said that both stock and CM13 work FLAWLESSLY on my phone and that CM13 does NOT have all those problems you invented. Thus, if your phone had those problems and mine does not, it is YOUR phone the "defunct" one, not mine (or you just made mistakes when flashing, which is more likely).
Let's not continue this discussion and focus on helping the OP please
Please this discussion need to be more detailed for app and settings that have this to roms cm and stock based with port features. in the end this is the reason for root or unlock our phone to get mor function and performance.
Cm13
1) nav bar 2 button for edit (menu-search)
2) no sound button on toggle panel (sound vibration silent)
3) double tap screen of only on status bar
4) theme yes
5) advanced reboot yes
6) ambient display yes
7) supersu on developer setting yes
8) lock screen only to buttons (phone-camera)
9) lock screen weather no
10) lock screen weather animation no
11) hide app no
12) one hand mode no
13) dualwindows no
14) fm radio no
15) file manager does not recognize usb otg
16) you can add other that I are not listed here
Sock based rom
1) nav bar 3 button for edit (capture+ Qslide-Dual windows)
2) sound button on toggle panel (sound vibration silent) yes
3) double tap screen of any where
4) theme yes
5) advanced reboot no
6) ambient display no
7) supersu on developer setting no
8) lock screen five buttons
9) lock screen weather no
10) lock screen weather animation no
11) hide app yes
12) one hand mode yes
13) dualwindows yes
14) fm radio yes
15) file manager recognize usb otg
16) you can add other that I are not listed here
The biggest points for stock IMO:
One handed mode
Better camera quality and manual mode, the LG camera app really good takes fullest advantage of its hardware.
As for better sound quality, when I was using imperium Viper4android was included and CM includes AudioFX.
It might come down to better quality earphones.
CM 14 it´s out???
http://www.cyanogenmods.org/forums/topic/lg-g4-cm14-cyanogenmod-14-nougat-7-0-rom/
I have only run stock so far since there is no root for marshmallow which my phone had out of the box when I got it a month ago. It's an h812 Canadian variant which is good in one way... absolutely nothing preinstalled by my carrier (Koodo). A couple apps from LG, so almost no bloatware. I can't complain about the stock rom other than certain things that are annoying that aren't there on most custom AOSP or cm Roms (toggling sync on or off brings up a big read me that I have to agree to) and automatic prevention of hearing loss by always dropping my volume down.
I still prefer cm13 based like my moto x 2014 is running but I don't know if I'll ever have that option, or even want to since the camera is one of the few major improvements from my old phone.
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Also to add...cm13 on my moto x and the other day helping my friend survey his property in the wilderness, very little reception and putting my sim card back in the moto x got me enough reception to run the tinder app, Facebook and YouTube which refused to load on the g4.
Not saying it's because of cm but the moto x was better despite having cm.
And the moto x is now my music player and the quality sounds better even on cm compared to stock g4 which gives me more reason to be able to try cm on the g4 since I don't use it for music as much right now anyway.
I like stock LG ui and with Genesis theme (UX 5) it's just marvellous
love stock for camera and stability. i would go AOSP if no more updates were avaiblefor my phone and the AOSP would make run better then i would.. iin my opinion AOSP for phones that arent no longer supported of end up in a rom that has bugs
This has reached a point that those who don't depend BT calling may be able to use it as a daily driver. Just be sure to backup first!
The flashing on first boot during setup may cause issues for those with epilepsy. This is due to how to disable the second screen.
Working:
Camera! https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/f/GCam5.1.018-Arnova8G2-V1.7Beta2.apk is recommended with Nexus 6 HDR config in advanced settings.
Bluetooth (skips with wifi, and doesn't work in call)
NFC
Wifi -- two users have reported issues on their devices, while it works for others.
GPS
Sensors
Sound
Calls
Fingerprint
Data
WiFi tethering
Second screen disable hack
Not working and issues:
Screen glitches on first boot. Reboot and will be good after (part of hack to disable 2nd screen)
Tap to wake
Flashlight tile: install flashlight tile for kenzo in play store with root to workaround.
Slight animation glitch when switching activities due to second screen hack.
BT issues above, and doesn't work in call.
If you use camera immediately after turning on, it may not work. You must wait about a minute after powering for it to work (it will always work after).
Probably more.
TODO
BT fixes
Tap to wake
flashlight tile
get a proper 2nd screen fix like v20 working without additional issues. v20 dtsi hack doesn't work for us due to dual panel depending on partial update (most likely).
Repos (kernel is lineage-15.1 branch):
Kernel
v10-common
h901
blobs
Changes from AOSCP
Using Ruthless launcher instead of Luna
Two reverts to support substratum themes in addition to CypherOS' color manager.
Use opengapps for gapps, magisk for superuser (may have issues with modules).
Download
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Bugs with workarounds:
Wifi doesn't connect and MAC address is all zeroes (only some users):
This is a misc partition that has MAC address hardcoded to a randomly generated address. This should work permanently on any device with the issue so long as two aren't on the same network. If anyone would like instructions on how to modify with a new MAC address, let me know.
Image https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=818222786056033811
Instructions:
Place on /sdcard
Reboot to recovery (for advanced reboot in CypherOS hold reboot button for full menu)
From twrp terminal or adb shell, run: dd if=/sdcard/misc.img of=/dev/block/bootdevice/by-name/misc
Reboot and enjoy fixed wifi
No charging indicator (but still charges):
Boot device plugged into power or USB and the indicator will work the entire power cycle. Working on a fix but not as trivial as I'd hoped.
Bootloop bug:
I recently got hit by the infinite bootloop bug, with the only workaround of disabling the big cluster. Here's a modified TWRP that only uses the little cluster (used Eliminator74's image):
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=818222786056035329
And here's a little cluster only boot image from the titan kernel (our CAF kernel has msm_thermal issues with booting with disabled big cores, needs modifications):
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=674106145207491774
Just uploaded a new build with the second screen backlight bleed fixed (from v20 for liblights).
Recently bluetooth was broken, and I need to debug further. In addition, the future builds (not yet posted) will be using the "lineage-15.1" branch of the kernel. I had based the kernel for this rom off the g4 cypheros kernel, but that Titan kernel is very buggy and has far worse performance (jittery mess compared to los 14.1, realized it's kernel not rom). The kernel also had very bad data corruption issues (also documented on g4).
Man thanks for working on our near forgotten devices. I cannot test this much ATM until things get a tad more stable, but you have my attention!
Just uploaded a new build. This is using the lineage-15 kernel branch on my github, which has CAF merged in and is buttery smooth compared to the Titan kernel .
BT is now back to the g4 state at least (fixed for music, still has some issues), and incall mic is now working correctly (updated mixer_paths.xml).
For me this is a daily driver now, but I also don't need fingerprint, nfc, or some other functionality that is no doubt broken (not sure yet due to minimal testing). Enjoy!
PS: due to all lg v10 now being unlockable, I'll be doing some test builds for the other variants in the next few days..
Downloaded the rom on my H901 and flashed it. It seems to work okay, there were some screen issues during the initial setup. The rom seems nice but with some issues (like the ones mentioned above - missing second screen, etc). The screen is shifted down so I can barely see the navigation bar. If ya need some testing of some options, settings, etc - let me know.
JuSkoch said:
Downloaded the rom on my H901 and flashed it. It seems to work okay, there were some screen issues during the initial setup. The rom seems nice but with some issues (like the ones mentioned above - missing second screen, etc). The screen is shifted down so I can barely see the navigation bar. If ya need some testing of some options, settings, etc - let me know.
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Thank you! It looks like I messed up the init script in that build that's supposed to adjust the screen accordingly. Using adb, run the following (it's only needed once):
adb shell wm size 1440x2560
johngalt1 said:
Thank you! It looks like I messed up the init script in that build that's supposed to adjust the screen accordingly. Using adb, run the following (it's only needed once):
adb shell wm size 1440x2560
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Thanks!. the screen now fits. However, I did seem to find another issue. Not sure why, but when I try to tap on the navbar buttons, only the upper half of that area works and the bottom half doesn't. Same thing happens with the statusbar. I think changing the screen size (or whatever else it could be) is making it so that the touch area is also reduced. I tried restarting it, but it still does it. Still usable but then that means i have to pay attention when I tap on the home button.
JuSkoch said:
Thanks!. the screen now fits. However, I did seem to find another issue. Not sure why, but when I try to tap on the navbar buttons, only the upper half of that area works and the bottom half doesn't. Same thing happens with the statusbar. I think changing the screen size (or whatever else it could be) is making it so that the touch area is also reduced. I tried restarting it, but it still does it. Still usable but then that means i have to pay attention when I tap on the home button.
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Thank you for bringing this up. I had forgotten and got used to it early on. I'll fix this today.
Just uploaded a new build. Changes:
Tweaked touch offset
Synced CypherOS to 6.0.0 (fixes navbar on first boot and removes some features)
Fixed init script to set display res (part of the second screen disable hack)
Updated Ruthless Launcher
Will give this a try with my V10 since I don't use it as a daily driver, can play around with it. Shame they couldn't get the 2nd running properly but no biggie. Also what firmware is recommended for this? Here is a pic of the current software/firmware it has
Edit: sorry about the pic, shows up portrait in my gallery but landscape on here
Update: after wiping in TWRP (v 3.0.2-0), install gave me an error 7
"E3004: This package is for device: pplus, v10,h901; this device is. "
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amoot329 said:
Will give this a try with my V10 since I don't use it as a daily driver, can play around with it. Shame they couldn't get the 2nd running properly but no biggie. Also what firmware is recommended for this? Here is a pic of the current software/firmware it has
Edit: sorry about the pic, shows up portrait in my gallery but landscape on here
Update: after wiping in TWRP (v 3.0.2-0), install gave me an error 7
"E3004: This package is for device: pplus, v10,h901; this device is. "
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Second screen is in the works for lineage on the v20, which we'll be able to use when it's ready ?.
Try twrp 3.2.1 https://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-lg-v10/development/twrp-3-2-1-h901-t3765971
Much thanks. Will give it a try and see.
Update: bingo, that did the trick ?
Probably sticking with stock rom on my v20. I rely on the Google certification for Netflix and my banking. Only have it rooted with magisk and no modules downloaded, passes safety net.
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As previous poster mentioned, the navbar buttons only register the top half, bottom half has no reaction. During setup, popped up with wrong vendor image. I ignored the message, continued with setup. Lots of flashing graphical glitches and static screen. Using ruthless launcher, will test some more out
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amoot329 said:
Much thanks. Will give it a try and see.
Update: bingo, that did the trick ?
Probably sticking with stock rom on my v20. I rely on the Google certification for Netflix and my banking. Only have it rooted with magisk and no modules downloaded, passes safety net.
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As previous poster mentioned, the navbar buttons only register the top half, bottom half has no reaction. During setup, popped up with wrong vendor image. I ignored the message, continued with setup. Lots of flashing graphical glitches and static screen. Using ruthless launcher, will test some more out
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The navbar button one is weird and not as trivial as I'd hoped (but an issue with the 2nd screen hack). Regarding the glitches they shouldn't appear after the first reboot (in issues in OP).
May be all related to the whole screen aspect, when I try to swipe down the notifications bar, have to start the swipe gesture almost halfway down the status bar. With stock rom, youre usually able to start your swipe down gesture from the 2nd screen area.
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amoot329 said:
May be all related to the whole screen aspect, when I try to swipe down the notifications bar, have to start the swipe gesture almost halfway down the status bar. With stock rom, youre usually able to start your swipe down gesture from the 2nd screen area.
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It is. The touchscreen is disabled in the second screen portion of the display. The v20 style disable hack doesn't work for our panels, but they also disable the touchscreen in the second screen.
For that functionality, the best hope we have is the work into lineage second screen work being done for v20 which we'll be able to use.
Wow, this is a giant step for us H901 users!
Going to DL and test.
Am I able to revert back to my current ROM after testing this?
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Double0EK said:
Wow, this is a giant step for us H901 users!
Going to DL and test.
Am I able to revert back to my current ROM after testing this?
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Yes, be sure to fully backup in TWRP prior to flashing, and then you'll be able to restore if the current issues are too great for you. You'll even be able to backup this ROM after flashing and setting up to switch between them as v10 issues are tackled.
On another note, I think I may have finally found the issue with the touchscreen offset (bottom half of navbar not working) I'll be testing today.
New build uploaded. Changes:
- Fixed touchscreen alignment. Bottom of navbar now works.
- Synced with upstream CypherOS
- Testing navbar theme settings from gerrit.