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First off I want to say that I DID search and I hope I'm not double posting, if so, I apologize.
I recently bought a Nexus 7 for my wife and I, and she's pretty into one or two Facebook games here lately. (Marvel Avenger's Alliance and ZooTown.. or ville.. or something?)
The device is not rooted (yet) and is running standard OS. I downloaded and installed Firefox Beta and Flash, and she directed herself over to FB to test out her games.
They run nowhere near where we were expecting. I'd be lying if I didn't expect it to outclass my desktop, since it's 4 years old, and the game runs a bit sluggish on it, but my desktop runs it twice as fast as the tabet. =\
For a tablet that runs GTAIII on max, the idea that it's having trouble with a Flash game kinda upsets/confuses me.
I am willing to root and put a custom ROM on, I just haven't had time, I currently have a Samsung Epic 1 running CM9 (too lazy to upgrade).
So aside from a new ROM (or kernel, I've got a basic grasp on what THAT does but not 100%) is there something or do/install, perhaps a browser that runs it better? or something along those lines?
Thank you!
PS If I am looking at a ROM/kernel change, any suggestions? I see there's a CM port here, seems good, and I've been using various editions of CM consistently for 2 years now, just making sure I'm not getting comfortable with something when there's better out there
My current phone, HTC M8 has almost died on me. The speakers are shot and to be honest the battery is getting worse, it really isn't worth fixing considering it's beaten up condition.
For now I need speakers, so I'm thinking of digging out my mint condition Nexus 4. It is unlocked etc so it is ready for flashing away. The last rom on it was the fantastic Mahdi rom, but of course that was Kitkat.
I hate asking the best rom question, it's done to death and annoys people. So I'll ask a different way!!!
Would I be correct to assume Lollipop roms are likely the most stable, battery efficient roms or is the consensus that Kitkat was better? I won't mention Marshmallow as it's not "official". Oh wait, I just did!
Thank you.
Purenexus or chroma are very stable on marshmallow.
Thanks for that, will take a look later.
It will be like stepping back time firing up the old Nexus. Still a fantastic piece of hardware, quite ahead of it's time back then I think.
I would also recommend Chroma, Marshmallow works really well on the Nexus 4 even if it is not officially released for that device. I wouldn't go back to a previous version.
About Pure Nexus, personally I've had some issues with it. If I remember well it was Bluetooth audio playback stutettering and/or frequent WiFi disconnections. It was an older version however. Maybe it is fixed now.
Unfortunately, the developer is only going to be releasing one more update to Chroma for the Nexus 4 and that is it, so it doesn't make sense to install it . I am currently on Chroma and love it, so that is a shame. I think I am going to go with CM13 next.
After enjoying a 64gb storage phone, I just realised my old N4 was only an 8gb. That said, I don't recall ever running out of space. I don't do music, install many apps or store much junk such as pics so I might get away with it. I simply need a working phone for talk, text, mobile web etc.
Dirty Unicorns is a solid ROM..
For marshmallow I recommend Pure Nexus. The best I've used performance, stability and battery life wise, was Purity kitkat.
I would recmend Sailfish OS + sfdroid. You can run android apps and have the best multitasking out there. Sailfish OS is almost pure linux on your phone. It's faster then android and without sfdroid and google apps does not drain battery. You will have amazing battery life with just sailfish os on your nexus 4. Trust me i have nexus 4 with Sailfish OS only. It does 4 hour SOT at least with full day battery life.
Thanks for all the advice. The old N4 is now up and running, with the latest Pure Nexus. All is well, although it will take some getting used to not having bass speakers from the htc!
Good to have a working phone again. Hope it lasts a while until I can afford another phone or get my htc repaired. Might have a play around with different roms.
Anyone still on Kitkat?
Chroma, installed it in both my mom and brother nexus, no problem whatsoever.
The ROM isn't the only thing you can do to make the N4 up to "modern standards".
My advice is to find a ROM you like. I use DirtyUnicorns since it stills get updated regularly (but it sucks because they recommend you clean flash each time).
Next, flash the HellSpawn kernel (and control it with the Kernel Aduitor app, from the play store).
Then go find the latest Viper4Android app and flash that. This will boost your sound performance immensely (seriously, it's like a different phone) - note, if you get audio bugs then just increase performance in the kernel.
Finally, get some nice icon themes or layers so you can make it as you want it.
(for more advanced stuff, you can flash xposed as well and add some nice modules to improve the look and usage of the phone).
Oh, and AdAway!
So, I brought this phone two months ago, and have been using it since. However, I find it not very fun to use as there's always frustrating amounts of lag. (Especially in the UI)
On stock 6.0, the UI is a tad bit laggy, but bearable. However, games stutter. On the other hand, running stock 7.0, the UI is horrendously laggy, while games run fine.
I've tried every custom ROM that I could, but this device still seems to be very laggy when it comes to using it, almost to the point of being completely unusable. I do not leave apps open, and clear the cache often, so I don't know what the issue is. It's too late to return it now, too.
Anything I could do to make my phone usable?
This is disappointing, as even my old Moto E ran faster than this phone.
Gimzie said:
So, I brought this phone two months ago, and have been using it since. However, I find it not very fun to use as there's always frustrating amounts of lag. (Especially in the UI)
On stock 6.0, the UI is a tad bit laggy, but bearable. However, games stutter. On the other hand, running stock 7.0, the UI is horrendously laggy, while games run fine.
I've tried every custom ROM that I could, but this device still seems to be very laggy when it comes to using it, almost to the point of being completely unusable. I do not leave apps open, and clear the cache often, so I don't know what the issue is. It's too late to return it now, too.
Anything I could do to make my phone usable?
This is disappointing, as even my old Moto E ran faster than this phone.
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What defines lag in your book? Sure, there are a couple micro stutters when pulling the notification shade or switching apps, but lag is generally nonexistent. If you've come from a Pixel, S7, 6P, OP3, etc., then yeah, there's definitely a massive difference.
Also, it's definitely possible that your touchscreen may have issues as well.
Finally, I recommend the following ROMs (I've tried nearly all the ROMs here on XDA) for smoothness/battery:
- Beanstalk 7.1.2
- AOSP-CAF (discontinued but still very good)
- JX's Creampie (stock with mods)
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What defines lag in your book? Sure, there are a couple micro stutters when pulling the notification shade or switching apps, but lag is generally nonexistent. If you've come from a Pixel, S7, 6P, OP3, etc., then yeah, there's definitely a massive difference.
Also, it's definitely possible that your touchscreen may have issues as well.
Finally, I recommend the following ROMs (I've tried nearly all the ROMs here on XDA) for smoothness/battery:
- Beanstalk 7.1.2
- AOSP-CAF (discontinued but still very good)
- JX's Creampie (stock with mods)
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The lag is mostly long UI stutters, but sometimes it gets really bad, especially on Lineage OS based roms. I have a feeling it's something related to single handed mode, though. I might try beanstalk soon.
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The lag is mostly long UI stutters, but sometimes it gets really bad, especially on Lineage OS based roms. I have a feeling it's something related to single handed mode, though. I might try beanstalk soon.
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I've recently installed Lineage on my brand new G4, and I honestly think the phone was better off on stock 7.0, as opposed to the custom rom. I'll agree i think the phone i just a bit stuttery/laggy at times.
I managed to make stock a lot faster by removing Greenify. Battery life seems to be better as well.
The problem does still stick around in Lineage-based roms, and I feel like One-handed mode causes this, since you can't turn it off.
EDIT: I prefer having root and all that.
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I managed to make stock a lot faster by removing Greenify. Battery life seems to be better as well.
The problem does still stick around in Lineage-based roms, and I feel like One-handed mode causes this, since you can't turn it off.
EDIT: I prefer having root and all that.
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Just found your post after searching for stutter in connection with one-handed mode. I only recently bought the G4 Plus as a temporary replacement for my broken Pixel and was a bit frustrated. I felt the G4 was quite stuttery, even tried a standard G5 in a store yesterday and thought "wow, that is a lot smoother.. well it just seems the G4 is a bit more stuttery. Today i compared it to my sisters G4 Plus, which was a lot smoother. You could really see the difference in scrolling and i thought it must be the digitizer or something. So before repackaging to return it to Amazon i tried a factory reset, voila, stutter gone. I tried activating one-haded mode again -> stutter. Deactivate one-handed mode -> stutter gone. So i guess that's the cause.
Disable any night-light app/setting and UI will run fine
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Disable any night-light app/setting and UI will run fine
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It was (reproducible if i activate/deactivate it) actually the one-handed mode, but thanks anyways!
There doesn't appear to be much activity on this forum or in any of the custom ROMs for this device. I'm sad that it's stuck on Marshmallow (I know Nougat ROMs exist, but in my experience they were too unstable to use) when Android 11 is about to drop, and that GNU/Linux is not available for it. With the newest builds I can find being from mid 2019 and the Linux kernel stuck on an unsupported version, I just don't trust it to be secure any more, so I'm now using it mostly airgapped, and only on a trusted firewalled network when I absolutely must use the wi-fi.
In order to get some idea of how much hope there is, I'd like to know if anyone has a guess for how many of these are still in service.
I have one that I play with from time to time but mostly just email. I still have one brand new in a box that we never used as we got it as part of a promotion. I've thought about it using it with my OBD2 connector to troubleshoot the cars.
I got 3 of it, grandparents using 2 of them and Im using the last one for reading and surfing web.
Me! My father bought it back like in 2013 and haven't used it much until last year. Then he gave it to me and I was pumped cause never really had a tabled. I discovered how comfortable are they to read/surf/watch YouTube.
I flashed it with Lineage and later Unlegacy, both at android 7.1. I must say when it functions correctly, it FLIES!! I can watch YT videos at 720 no problems and the pictures look great, very nice colors!
Unfortunately it hangs often, like there's a hidden process of the OS causing problems. It heats the hell out of the CPU and resetting doesn't seem to solve it, but eventually goes away and comes back to normal. It expends like 60% of the time functioning right and the other 40% overheating and hanging up. It also drops wifi intermittently.
Even with all those problems I refuse to let it go. Mine is almost new, and as I said I love how the screen looks despite it's resolution. I wish I could get an stable release in 7.1 so I can squeeze the rest of it's life out of it.
Lineage is not being ported anymore by AndroidAndi and Unlegacy project seems dead as well. Im lost here, if somebody can point me to a stable release I could use for the things I do with it, that would be AWESOME! (EDIT: Will try out AICP)
You mentioned AICP, which I haven't heard of before. Is that still maintained for it?
I still have a working one and use it accasionally for movies. Now I am looking for a "newer" stable ROM, at the moment it has cyanogen mod 13.0-201618 nightly
I don't think there ever was anything stable other than KitKat. I'm using an unofficial nightly Omnirom marshmallow build from early 2019. There are Nougat nightly roms, but I've found them to be too slow to use.
I still have a tab 2. i dont ever use it but its a good backup device. i messed around with it the first time i started running custom roms on androids. i put a couple different roms like cyanogen mod. but went back to stock and havent touched it since that was like 2014. now im trying to run the latest version of lineage os to make it faster and more stable as the stock/custom rom was very unstable.
I just turned mine on and see I'm running slim-4.44 build. Sucks cause lots of stuff doesn't work on it. Netflix isn't even supported.
Is there another rom that can be loaded that's better to get better functionality? I know this is super old hardware. Email pretty much is fine but seems silly to just use this for email. Hate to throw it out because it's in immaculate condition...lol
-Nigel
NewShockerGuy said:
I just turned mine on and see I'm running slim-4.44 build. Sucks cause lots of stuff doesn't work on it. Netflix isn't even supported.
Is there another rom that can be loaded that's better to get better functionality? I know this is super old hardware. Email pretty much is fine but seems silly to just use this for email. Hate to throw it out because it's in immaculate condition...lol
-Nigel
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Yes, folks, this is old hardware but its not acceptable to ditch is just because its hard. We'll never move to a more sustainable economy is we can recycle old hardware. They work that you guys do with custom ROMs is awesome as you are doing your bit to not fill landfills. It would be good to know if there is still a relatively recent ROM for the Galaxy Tab 2 that is still maintained.
Hi all, I'm using unlegacy Android based on Android 7.1 and I suggest you to use it
I suggest you to not flash gapps (they're too much resources intensive). I'm currently using it with L speed set everything on performance (don't fuss with ram manager settings because it crashes) and with Firefox preview ( the fastest and most stable for this tablet IMO) downloaded from apkpure
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Hi all, I'm using unlegacy Android based on Android 7.1 and I suggest you to use it
I suggest you to not flash gapps (they're too much resources intensive). I'm currently using it with L speed set everything on performance (don't fuss with ram manager settings because it crashes) and with Firefox preview ( the fastest and most stable for this tablet IMO) downloaded from apkpure
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Hello,
Which unlegacy build are you using for your tablet? There was a build from July 2019, and it seemed to have security patch as of 7/5/2019. Unfortunately, I saw it too late on jenkins, and it isn't available for download anymore (probably because I don't know how to download older artifacts from jenkins).
I have a P5113 10.1 WiFi, and I'm using unlegacy asop 6.0.1 build as of February 2019 since I couldn't get 7.1 to get pass the setup wizard, probably because of gapps as you suggested.
ME! I still use P3100 model it is fine but it is lagging a lot these days . I'm using slim os 4.4. Anybody can suggest a smooth ROM for the Device.
Thanks
Just received one from my nephew to keep the kids busy... watching yt , uh quietly...
Kept my head busy thinking if any good ROM would be available.
Good to know there are possibilities.
I have one too.
Thanks to Android-Andi it's up and running again.
Thanks again Andi.
Yeah after so many attempts , I have now managed to make it usable.
Previously I was using crDroid rom (marshmallow) with gapps. But it was so laggy that I couldn't do anything ( literally anything). Now after doing some research I have chosen unified lineage OS 14 ( 7.0) from Android Andi's website. I am now using unified Twrp ( not the official one) also from Andi's website. And flashed a custom overclocked kernel. This time I am not using gapps ( very resource heavy). And using "NEW PIPE" for YouTube streaming. And rooted with magisk and flashed "Oxygen OS sounds" from magisk modules. Now I can watch YouTube videos 720p without any lag. This device flies now...??
I have 1
I bought one for a microbiology class because it was cheaper to buy a digital copy and the tablet than to buy the book. It was a new book with no previous editions, so I had to. I never really had to use it for classes again, I prefer a book over the tablet. It has been sitting around untouched for a bit, I think the last time I used it Hulu or Netflix no longer had a compatible app version for android 4. I can't remember how much I paid for it, but I feel like it got slow and they quit pushing out updates not long after I bought it. I decided to pull it out and play around with it. It is not doing much, so if I mess it up by rooting it, I won't be too upset. Trying to find the best way to do this. I have also seen some information about LineageOS.
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There doesn't appear to be much activity on this forum or in any of the custom ROMs for this device. I'm sad that it's stuck on Marshmallow (I know Nougat ROMs exist, but in my experience they were too unstable to use) when Android 11 is about to drop, and that GNU/Linux is not available for it. With the newest builds I can find being from mid 2019 and the Linux kernel stuck on an unsupported version, I just don't trust it to be secure any more, so I'm now using it mostly airgapped, and only on a trusted firewalled network when I absolutely must use the wi-fi.
In order to get some idea of how much hope there is, I'd like to know if anyone has a guess for how many of these are still in service.
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still own one but its slow , not as slow as my old ipad 3 which is useless now
In the name of GOD?.....Hi do you know what's custom ROM is best?slim6 2017
Still using this tablet for surfing, videos with RR rom. Quite happy with that.
Hi all,
as the title says, what would be the snappiest rom to use today (not necessarily the bleeding edge Android) that is still quite speedy to use on this unit, while not being ancient at the same time?
Difficult question, i know. I resurrected my own unit yesterday (new screen assembly, new battery, new USB pcb. It basically turned out as a brand new device ) and i rooted it, increased the partition size and installed LineageOS 17 on it (tried 18 but had issues).
But would i be better off using Lineage/Android 9 or 8 here? From a snappy-ui perspective, but without going all old-school...?
Hello,
I would also love to know this, I found mine after a couple of years, still working great!! And I would like to maybe update the system as it's still using the stock Android 6. Would it be beneficial to update it? And if so, to which version would you recommend?
Cheers.
While awaiting some nice pointers, i installed LineageOS17.1 + TWRP on mine, and also installed the ElementalX kernel (in order to bump up the cpu speed a notch + undervolt a bit). It surely did help quite much to reduce the sluggishness that it had when i used L.OS18, but its still not 100% perfect. Perhaps Android 8 or even 7 would be the perfect balance??
I'm also in the same position - I've been using Timur's as my Nexus is an indash install but it's so painfully slow if you try and do anything beyond play a song - Maps is near impossible.
Is LineageOS17 stable and quick enough for light usage these days?
Idk man. I finally went all the way down to Nougat (LineageOs14.1) to get it quite smooth (with ElementalX). And it is very fluent mostly, BUT...
If i leave the tablet for a whole day, i have severe issues getting the touch to recognize my fingers to start with (i have to press quite hard for it to register). As the CPU starts heating up (from using it), that sensation vanishes gradually and after a while (10 minutes or so, when i can feel the heat from the CPU from the back-cover) it actually is quite fluent. I have no clue why this is, i just know thats how it is.
I overlocked it to 1.7GHZ and undervolted it one step in elemental.
I'll be following this one with interest. Didn't have high hopes for anything modern, but Lineage sounds nice. Nine year old hardware inside, that's ancient, isn't it. Mine's still all original inside and out, including OS, but I found it in a drawer the other day and it was such a perfect formfactor, size and weight perfect for holding in one hand for reading, etc.
Haha, a timely post for me, as well. Just today I got mine charged for use as a budget desktop "nest hub" now that I got a new Nest doorbell.
It's been a trip reviving this tablet... and seeing it sitting next to my pixel 6 pro, it amazes me to think of how android and these devices have evolved over the years.
I can't even remember what (if any) rom and/or kernel I have installed on it, but it appears to be rooted. If there's something out there that's at least as good as this marshmallow rom to breathe new life into this tablet, that would make my day!
Well, I find that for being such an old device, with LOS18.1 it is working almost flawless. The gyroscope isn't working properly, but with some apps (not root) it is still manageable.
It is still great to play videos and as a docking station. It is a bit slow, but far way better than all 2013 devices, I had almost no stutter with VLC (only once when started, it lost some frames but it was acceptable).
The main drawback I have is that there is no charging+otg, even with QI charge. It could be used as a very cheap and efficient network storage but nope :\
Bumping this thread a bit. I have two wifi units, one running 11 and the other running 6 and while android 6 is quicker, it lacks in the "support" department (i.e running some applications that requires newer software). The 11 unit on the other hand is sluggish as #ยค#" (to be expected on such an old device). But as a middle-ground, are there any flavour of (say) Android 9.x that runs somewhat smooth on this device (maybe with some booster such as elementalx on-board)?
So i went and installed Lineageos 16 on the previous Android 6 tablet and it works decently well (its a little bit more sluggish of course). But then i remembered back in the day i was running the ElementalX kernel on some older version in order to overclock the CPU a bit and went looking for some current version of it.
I bought it on the playstore and tried it out (also tried to flash it beforehand) but it seems to stop its support at Android 8
Next up, i bought the "setcpu for root" users (im running Magisk) but it just hangs and does nothing (unfortunately). Are there any "goto" ways to bump the cpu frequencey a tad bit nowadays with Android 9+ OS on this tablet?
Lineage OS 18.1 latest + the LOS18.1 compatible anykernel3 flashable elememtalx + fstrim performed on system + data + cache and its reasonably snappy. If any older android device is running slowly, I always suspect emmc needing a trim personally. Did you let it sit overnight on a charger while powered on before deciding it was too slow (or run the fstrim batch file in cross to make sure you're clean)
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Lineage OS 18.1 latest + the LOS18.1 compatible anykernel3 flashable elememtalx + fstrim performed on system + data + cache and its reasonably snappy. If any older android device is running slowly, I always suspect emmc needing a trim personally. Did you let it sit overnight on a charger while powered on before deciding it was too slow (or run the fstrim batch file in cross to make sure you're clean)
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Which kernel is compatible with latest lineage 18.1?