Some background on what I've done with the phone:
It came with B29 on it.
I used DrakenFX's BootStack and System files to downgrade it to B27
From there, I tried the steps in Tenfar's thread to root the phone without unlocking the boot loader.
I screwed something up along the way and after many hours, got my phone booting properly again and downgraded to B20.
From there, I followed the steps posted by mmamedov in tenfar's thread to actually get my phone rooted properly.
I'm pretty new to rooting and all this stuff since I'm jumping ship from iPhone, but I've done a bit of tinkering.
I don't quite understand where the "root" part resides and what updates would affect it.
Now, I'm on B20 but would like to upgrade to some of the newer versions. What are my options for doing that and would I have to wipe the phone to update?
Could I use the backup tool to flash the stock recovery instead of TWRP, and use the built in update through settings?
Or should I use TWRP and DrakenFX's newer BootStack/System files to update?
or something else?
Thanks
- Android Newbie
mozerxdaven said:
Some background on what I've done with the phone:
It came with B29 on it.
I used DrakenFX's BootStack and System files to downgrade it to B27
From there, I tried the steps in Tenfar's thread to root the phone without unlocking the boot loader.
I screwed something up along the way and after many hours, got my phone booting properly again and downgraded to B20.
From there, I followed the steps posted by mmamedov in tenfar's thread to actually get my phone rooted properly.
I'm pretty new to rooting and all this stuff since I'm jumping ship from iPhone, but I've done a bit of tinkering.
I don't quite understand where the "root" part resides and what updates would affect it.
Now, I'm on B20 but would like to upgrade to some of the newer versions. What are my options for doing that and would I have to wipe the phone to update?
Could I use the backup tool to flash the stock recovery instead of TWRP, and use the built in update through settings?
Or should I use TWRP and DrakenFX's newer BootStack/System files to update?
or something else?
Thanks
- Android Newbie
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=68873482&postcount=2 rooting makes the OTA from ZTE not work
I've been going through a similar learning curve as you I think.
I recommend @DrakenFX's nearly stock rom.
You will need to unlock the bootloader (I'm pretty certain) I believe that is covered and/or linked in the rom's page.
If it doesn't make sense keep reading until it does, is the advice I gave to myself.
I'm pretty new to certain parts of all the options involved in rooting and bootloaders etc. but I believe that the bootloader can be relocked if you don't get it officially unlocked and you do it yourself, I haven't confirmed that yet so don't take my word for it.
I ran into confusion when I unlocked and had driver issues with fastboot but I got there.
DrakenFX had a few posts that are really helpful. I used his B29 image and bootstack after I had TWRP installed.
He has another TWRP unlock zip that allows unlocking with ADB and then fastboot.
I ran into issues like I said and posted in his bootstack thread if you'd like to see if my problems might shed some light. My post didn't prompt any meaningful conversation but my driver issues sorted themselves out so I didn't have to pursue it much further.
Sorry for the lack of links but I hope this helps in some way.
Here's the ROM from DrakenFX that is close to stock B29, it looks like it will evolve into Nougat, can't wait for that.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/axon-7/development/rom-zaxon-dmix7-stock-base-rom-t3495970
Hello,
Just got it and already bricked it, hooray.
I did the Nougat update and allowed modifications (the swipe in TWRP). I'm dumb
So here's everything I did :
First I used the Axon 7 Toolkit by BKORES to unlock bootloader and flash TWRP.
At step 9), It failed to boot TWRP even tho I could access it with power+volume.
It eventually would get stuck at the ZTE logo when I wanted to boot system.
I flashed SuperSU with an SD card in recovery.
So : Fastboot and system won't work. Recovery would, and so does bootloader from this.
What should I do ?
CiT42 said:
Hello,
Just got it and already bricked it, hooray.
I did the Nougat update and allowed modifications (the swipe in TWRP). I'm dumb
So here's everything I did :
First I used the Axon 7 Toolkit by BKORES to unlock bootloader and flash TWRP.
At step 9), It failed to boot TWRP even tho I could access it with power+volume.
It eventually would get stuck at the ZTE logo when I wanted to boot system.
I flashed SuperSU with an SD card in recovery.
So : Fastboot and system won't work. Recovery would, and so does bootloader from this.
What should I do ?
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Nah this is a soft brick, nothing to worry about
Maybe your SuperSU did some bad stuff on the rom. For exampls if you flash SuperSU 2.79 or higher on Android 6 (at least in the stock rom) it won't boot. Maybe try flashing Magisk B13? I think it gets rid of SuperSU
There's a no-verity-opt-encrypt file too, somewhere in this forum, maybe in Kernels, ROMs thread. Maybe give it a shot
Another way is going back to the stock recovery and flash an official package. I have made an easy guide for the A2017G, not sure if it works on the U or chinese. you can find it over at Guides, should be pretty close to the top
If you have an A2017U you can get the DrakenFX system files and install them, maybe you can fix the stuff
Or take the easy way, and install a custom ROM. Not the best choice unless you're willing to withstand some small bugs and stuff. The way to install them is get the A2017X_Universal_Bootstack and corresponding modem for your model, plus the ROM and OpenGApps 7.1.2 arm64 (Or beansgapps if the rom specifies), and of course the ROM itself. You wipe system, data, caches (not necessarily internal) then flash the Universal Bootstack and tbe modem, then the ROM, then GApps if you want to have them, then Magisk or SuperSU if you want root (some roms come with self-installing Magisk in the same package, too).
Or use MiFlash and flash a complete stock image of your phone's system. That one works like a charm
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Nah this is a soft brick, nothing to worry about
Maybe your SuperSU did some bad stuff on the rom. For exampls if you flash SuperSU 2.79 or higher on Android 6 (at least in the stock rom) it won't boot. Maybe try flashing Magisk B13? I think it gets rid of SuperSU
There's a no-verity-opt-encrypt file too, somewhere in this forum, maybe in Kernels, ROMs thread. Maybe give it a shot
Another way is going back to the stock recovery and flash an official package. I have made an easy guide for the A2017G, not sure if it works on the U or chinese. you can find it over at Guides, should be pretty close to the top
If you have an A2017U you can get the DrakenFX system files and install them, maybe you can fix the stuff
Or take the easy way, and install a custom ROM. Not the best choice unless you're willing to withstand some small bugs and stuff. The way to install them is get the A2017X_Universal_Bootstack and corresponding modem for your model, plus the ROM and OpenGApps 7.1.2 arm64 (Or beansgapps if the rom specifies), and of course the ROM itself. You wipe system, data, caches (not necessarily internal) then flash the Universal Bootstack and tbe modem, then the ROM, then GApps if you want to have them, then Magisk or SuperSU if you want root (some roms come with self-installing Magisk in the same package, too).
Or use MiFlash and flash a complete stock image of your phone's system. That one works like a charm
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I flashed DrakenFX's B29 stock rom. Didn't thought it would work with recovery but anyway ! Thank you.
Do you recommend some ROMs, kernels, etc ?
CiT42 said:
Do you recommend some ROMs, kernels, etc ?
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Nah, they are all mostly bad. The best of the bunch seems to be NucleaRom, it has an okay kernel (Radioactive, not too good battery-wise but I've never seen so little UI lag, like, ever) and okay features (like 1/3 of what ResurrectionRemix has), an awesome maintainer (OrdenKrieger) and boots in like 15 seconds
But the stock ROM is currently the best of them all, not battery wise (you can get some obscenely high SOT numbers on LineageOS with Substratum black themes) but it's fluid and stuff runs well on it. The status bar is hideous though, and MiFavor is white themed, on an AMOLED screen, what the crap ZTE?
Don't try PureNexus, permanent hard brick from the looks of it.
LineageOS works okay but it has some compatibility problems with some apps I use, dunno
I think you could try the dual-boot patcher, that way you can test the roms and keep a working stock rom to use it as your daily driver without losing data. i never used the dual boot patcher though, so good luck if you will use it
I've bad experiences with Dual boot on my old 1+.
Hello eveybody.
I have a question. Actually I have more .. a lot, but for now:
Up to what buildnumber is it possible to root the P8 Lite?
(Because I had B605 and tried to root it but failed. Got stuck in logo, and now I have stock rom B609.
Still trying to root but get all kind of errors and weird things I dont understand ... I am a newbie at this though.)
Oh, also what else do i need to do before trying to root for the tenth time ? (Log out of Huawei account? reset facory settings? ... or anything?)
Kind regards,
TommyWhite
TommyWhite said:
Hello eveybody.
I have a question. Actually I have more .. a lot, but for now:
Up to what buildnumber is it possible to root the P8 Lite?
(Because I had B605 and tried to root it but failed. Got stuck in logo, and now I have stock rom B609.
Still trying to root but get all kind of errors and weird things I dont understand ... I am a newbie at this though.)
Oh, also what else do i need to do before trying to root for the tenth time ? (Log out of Huawei account? reset facory settings? ... or anything?)
Kind regards,
TommyWhite
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Your can error every versions... I'm on B610 and have rooted it with Magisk... I guess you already have rooted it before so you're not new to this... Well anyway, to root you must have TWRP recovery, and the root file... Boot into recovery mode and simply flash the root file...
What error did you get while rooting on B605?
You probably got stuck in boot animation because you flashed superSU in system mode. It should be installed in system-less mode. Magisk will install only in system-less mode and I think it's better at passing the safetynet.
amageek said:
Your can error every versions... I'm on B610 and have rooted it with Magisk... I guess you already have rooted it before so you're not new to this... Well anyway, to root you must have TWRP recovery, and the root file... Boot into recovery mode and simply flash the root file...
What error did you get while rooting on B605?
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Thanks for replying :good:
What do you mean with "Your can error every versions..."? .. Do you mean you can root every version?
I am very new to this. Half of the time I dont know what the H im doing, and all of the time I only have a slight idea of what is going on in the Phone. For example I dont even know what a root file is, could you tell me?
How did you root with Magisk if I may ask? And whats the difference with SuperSu?
I had all kinda errors and issues along the way from B605 to B170 and B123 Android 5 back to 6 and B609. (I could make a thread of it ... maybe it helps others???)
Because today I finaly rooted my Phone.
Weirdly enough root checker basic sais it isnt but other root checkers say it is (and my device itself said after reboot that it was) ... so what to make of that?
Can I update the Phone now its rooted without unrooting it?
@keikari
Thanks for responding.
But im afraid I cannot quite follow you.
Could you explain a bit more please?
(Can you also maybe read the last bit of my other reply?)
TommyWhite said:
@keikari
Thanks for responding.
But im afraid I cannot quite follow you.
Could you explain a bit more please?
(Can you also maybe read the last bit of my other reply?)
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You can't update phone which is rooted(as far as I know).
Do you have TWRP recovery installed?
If you had TWRP installed and you rooted by flashing SuperSu(this is what other guy meant with "root file"). By default SuperSu installs in system mode(meaning it does it thing into system partition). You need to install other zip file first to make it install system-less mode(meaning it does it thing into boot partition).
Magisk is also flashable zip and similiar to SuperSU. If you use apps that need to pass safetynet(like netflix) you want to root with magisk.
Don't know did that helped at all. It's hard to explain when I only know how to use it but don't know why/how it works : D
And if you don't mind doing factory reset before updating, you can also install official updates in TWRP.
Uhhhmmm ok. Well I had to copy eu.chainfire.supersu-1 folder from boot folder to system folder so I dont know what to call that than.
I have TWRP now yes thank you.
But I dont understand about safetynet, coz I just tried Netflix and it works just fine ... and I got SuperSu not Magisk.
By the way when I press on SuperSu nothing happens ... how come?
Also your telling me that I can install official update with TWPR without unrooting it?
And, if you dont mind telling me, whats better to make backup with TWPR or Titanium backup?
While im at it ... if I make a backup of rooted Phone and accidently unroot it by update or something cant i just restore the backup to unroot it again?
Thanks in advance, sorry for the many questions. (Ill learn a lot; )
1. I don't think you can just copy superSu stuff(though not 100% sure, I rarely do things manually if I don't have to. Mostly because lack of knowledge : D )
2. Maybe stock rom passes safety net and it's nothing to really think about as an user. Because if everything works like you want -> no reason to care. If doesn't work -> now you care and you can find answer since you have something to look for
3. Root isn't actually thing you can loose. It's thing that you just install in the rom. As user you can think it like an app.(which just has to be installed a bit differently).
4. When you press SuperSu, Supersu app should open (maybe your copying broke it)
5. TWRP is to back up whole rom(or some partitions). Like if you "soft brick" your device or format system/boot/data partition you can restore it back exactly like it was with TWRP backup. You should do this every time you install new rom or some stuff that modifies system like xposed. It saves time and nerves if things don't work.
5.1 Titanium back up is to back up app and/or app data(like progress in games). This is good if you are changing rom or wanting to re-install your current rom.
6. You'll soon understand the actual concept of the root. Like with p8lite only thing you need to worry is that you have unlocked bootloader. Which you should have since you were able to install TWRP.
7. About installing firmware in TWRP is kind of easier, because stock method will need non-rooted firmware and only few exactly correct firmwares can be installed on top of your current firmware. With TWRP you can even install roms from other kirin 620 devices. (My phone is honor 4x, but I used to use p8lites firmwares because it had more updates) TWRP updating will wipe data.
Happy to help. I think I answered most of your questions in that, ask if you need better details. It would be hard to write guide that has all basics explained the way it would be easy to understand, you'll learn faster when you keep trying and ask question as they come(like you have) at some point you will do something wrong and be like **** this **** and start over again. Then it will became easier and you will also learn that it's difficult to actually brick this phone(some people are too scared about it and few have succeeded in it, but no idea how : D) )
Thanks for using actual english in your questions. :good:
TommyWhite said:
Uhhhmmm ok. Well I had to copy eu.chainfire.supersu-1 folder from boot folder to system folder so I dont know what to call that than.
I have TWRP now yes thank you.
But I dont understand about safetynet, coz I just tried Netflix and it works just fine ... and I got SuperSu not Magisk.
By the way when I press on SuperSu nothing happens ... how come?
Also your telling me that I can install official update with TWPR without unrooting it?
And, if you dont mind telling me, whats better to make backup with TWPR or Titanium backup?
While im at it ... if I make a backup of rooted Phone and accidently unroot it by update or something cant i just restore the backup to unroot it again?
Thanks in advance, sorry for the many questions. (Ill learn a lot; )
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By default, SuperSu installs root in system mode. It will fail the SafetyNet test (which checks if the android system is modified or not if it fails, you can't run SnapChat and Android Pay will not work too). If you root by Magisk, the SafetyNet test will pass..
To make it clear, since you have TWRP, download the Root file (SuperSu or Magisk) and then flash the root file from TWRP... Copying and pasting won't work.
These are the files: SuperSu v 2.78 and Magisk v 13.3.. Download either of these files and flash through TWRP..
And yes, I meant you can root...
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To answer your other question, when you update your phone it will unroot it... You can root it again by simply flashing those files...
Do Refer the MEGA Thread for more information... Banakafallata has explained everything neatly...
amageek said:
By default, SuperSu installs root in system mode. It will fail the SafetyNet test (which checks if the android system is modified or not if it fails, you can't run SnapChat and Android Pay will not work too). If you root by Magisk, the SafetyNet test will pass..
To make it clear, since you have TWRP, download the Root file (SuperSu or Magisk) and then flash the root file from TWRP... Copying and pasting won't work.
These are the files: SuperSu v 2.78 and Magisk v 13.3.. Download either of these files and flash through TWRP..
And yes, I meant you can root...
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Isn't magisk 14 https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/official-magisk-v7-universal-systemless-t3473445 better than 13.3 or does it have some bugs?
keikari said:
Isn't magisk 14 https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/official-magisk-v7-universal-systemless-t3473445 better than 13.3 or does it have some bugs?
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Yes but I haven't uploaded the file in my Mega Cloud... He can update it ..
keikari said:
1. I don't think you can just copy superSu stuff(though not 100% sure, I rarely do things manually if I don't have to. Mostly because lack of knowledge : D )
2. Maybe stock rom passes safety net and it's nothing to really think about as an user. Because if everything works like you want -> no reason to care. If doesn't work -> now you care and you can find answer since you have something to look for
3. Root isn't actually thing you can loose. It's thing that you just install in the rom. As user you can think it like an app.(which just has to be installed a bit differently).
4. When you press SuperSu, Supersu app should open (maybe your copying broke it)
5. TWRP is to back up whole rom(or some partitions). Like if you "soft brick" your device or format system/boot/data partition you can restore it back exactly like it was with TWRP backup. You should do this every time you install new rom or some stuff that modifies system like xposed. It saves time and nerves if things don't work.
5.1 Titanium back up is to back up app and/or app data(like progress in games). This is good if you are changing rom or wanting to re-install your current rom.
6. You'll soon understand the actual concept of the root. Like with p8lite only thing you need to worry is that you have unlocked bootloader. Which you should have since you were able to install TWRP.
7. About installing firmware in TWRP is kind of easier, because stock method will need non-rooted firmware and only few exactly correct firmwares can be installed on top of your current firmware. With TWRP you can even install roms from other kirin 620 devices. (My phone is honor 4x, but I used to use p8lites firmwares because it had more updates) TWRP updating will wipe data.
Happy to help. I think I answered most of your questions in that, ask if you need better details. It would be hard to write guide that has all basics explained the way it would be easy to understand, you'll learn faster when you keep trying and ask question as they come(like you have) at some point you will do something wrong and be like **** this **** and start over again. Then it will became easier and you will also learn that it's difficult to actually brick this phone(some people are too scared about it and few have succeeded in it, but no idea how : D) )
Thanks for using actual english in your questions. :good:
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Thank you very much for helping and letting me feel at ease with that last bit! Buttuhm if I used Dutch I dont think I would get very much help here, but thanks for thanking me (My English is not so good though)
Sorry for the late responce. Ive been busy ... also with reading and searching ... but seems like the more I read the more questions I get.
Anyways:
1. In the tutorial I finally tried it said in the end "7. Now open /device/data/app and locate folder eu.chainfire.supersu-1 cut and paste in folder /device/system/app with following rights rwx r-x r-x" and it worked. (Im not sure weither I may post the link of that tutorial here. Its some blogspot.)
2. Mobile banking doesnt work anymore. It sais it doesnt recognize my device ... so If its not to hard to switch to Magisk, I would like that.
3. But I cannot just uninstall SuperSu and install Magisk now can I? (Im trying to figure that out, among all the other stuff new to me.)
4. Lol ye I have been a bit of an idiot there or drunk or something, cause it works just fine.
5. Ok so it makes an images of your whole device so to speak, right? But I guess TWRP will be gone after a official update or a stock ROM is installed? When I make a back up with TWPR it names it date Balong500311 or something. I had the Balong bug several days ago but its gone now ... I hope. In aida64 it sais Board: Balongv8r1sft and in project menu it sais CP version: some number (balong) ... its very strange.
5.1 So TWRP is better it backs up everything.
6. Ok, but I wanna know .. Everything!!!! :victory:
7. I dont understand your first sentence here at all. (Remember im realy realy new to this. For to new to be going installing ROMs from other devices )
amageek said:
By default, SuperSu installs root in system mode. It will fail the SafetyNet test (which checks if the android system is modified or not if it fails, you can't run SnapChat and Android Pay will not work too). If you root by Magisk, the SafetyNet test will pass..
To make it clear, since you have TWRP, download the Root file (SuperSu or Magisk) and then flash the root file from TWRP... Copying and pasting won't work.
These are the files: SuperSu v 2.78 and Magisk v 13.3.. Download either of these files and flash through TWRP..
And yes, I meant you can root...
---------- Post added at 01:08 ---------- Previous post was at 01:04 ----------
To answer your other question, when you update your phone it will unroot it... You can root it again by simply flashing those files...
Do Refer the MEGA Thread for more information... Banakafallata has explained everything neatly...
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Yes thank you. But I finally rooted it after a bunch of trouble. Softbricks, balong bug, all kinds of errors and issues. And I was finally able to root it in a very strange way ... and almost accidentally. And not with the newest TWRP (does that matter?) nor the newest SuperSu. When I flashed the newest SuperSu in not the newest TWRP it got softbricked.
So Im a bit ... uhm more cautious now hoping it will all go more smoothly from now on.
I will search Banakafallata's thread.
Oh by the way. You have B610 right? Do you still have the local update function in the menu of updater?
TommyWhite said:
Yes thank you. But I finally rooted it after a bunch of trouble. Softbricks, balong bug, all kinds of errors and issues. And I was finally able to root it in a very strange way ... and almost accidentally. And not with the newest TWRP (does that matter?) nor the newest SuperSu. When I flashed the newest SuperSu in not the newest TWRP it got softbricked.
So Im a bit ... uhm more cautious now hoping it will all go more smoothly from now on.
I will search Banakafallata's thread.
Oh by the way. You have B610 right? Do you still have the local update function in the menu of updater?
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Great to know that you've rooted, though by some weird way... It doesn't matter much, the difference between older and newer SuperSU is very less... But for TWRP, newer lets you flash stock update.zip whereas older doesn't...
https://forum.xda-developers.com/p8lite/general/mega-thread-root-unbricking-updating-t3400994
Do read this
amageek said:
Great to know that you've rooted, though by some weird way... It doesn't matter much, the difference between older and newer SuperSU is very less... But for TWRP, newer lets you flash stock update.zip whereas older doesn't...
https://forum.xda-developers.com/p8lite/general/mega-thread-root-unbricking-updating-t3400994
Do read this
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Ok that will not unroot my device right? Ill do that tommorow, its very late here in Holland ... 3:40 am???
Do you still have the local update function in the menu of updater in B10 (your device)? Id like to know ver much pls.
Thanks in advance!
TommyWhite said:
Ok that will not unroot my device right? Ill do that tommorow, its very late here in Holland ... 3:40 am???
Do you still have the local update function in the menu of updater in B10 (your device)? Id like to know ver much pls.
Thanks in advance!
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No, the local update option is not there from Marshmallow onwards. But you can flash a zip for it too... Yes, updating your device to newer build (updates) will unroot your device... But you can root it again
TommyWhite said:
Thank you very much for helping and letting me feel at ease with that last bit! Buttuhm if I used Dutch I dont think I would get very much help here, but thanks for thanking me (My English is not so good though)
Sorry for the late responce. Ive been busy ... also with reading and searching ... but seems like the more I read the more questions I get.
Anyways:
1. In the tutorial I finally tried it said in the end "7. Now open /device/data/app and locate folder eu.chainfire.supersu-1 cut and paste in folder /device/system/app with following rights rwx r-x r-x" and it worked. (Im not sure weither I may post the link of that tutorial here. Its some blogspot.)
2. Mobile banking doesnt work anymore. It sais it doesnt recognize my device ... so If its not to hard to switch to Magisk, I would like that.
3. But I cannot just uninstall SuperSu and install Magisk now can I? (Im trying to figure that out, among all the other stuff new to me.)
4. Lol ye I have been a bit of an idiot there or drunk or something, cause it works just fine.
5. Ok so it makes an images of your whole device so to speak, right? But I guess TWRP will be gone after a official update or a stock ROM is installed? When I make a back up with TWPR it names it date Balong500311 or something. I had the Balong bug several days ago but its gone now ... I hope. In aida64 it sais Board: Balongv8r1sft and in project menu it sais CP version: some number (balong) ... its very strange.
5.1 So TWRP is better it backs up everything.
6. Ok, but I wanna know .. Everything!!!! :victory:
7. I dont understand your first sentence here at all. (Remember im realy realy new to this. For to new to be going installing ROMs from other devices )
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1. Oh, I just realized that that copy was to make superSU a system app instead of user app. (This only affects superSU app, not other stuff it installs) If you install SuperSU in system mode it will cause bootloop.
2. I guess you can try use superSu uninstaller or try to uninstall from superSU app. Then just go magisk thread and download latest stable magisk and install it in TWRP. You can take backup of boot partition if you want so it will be easy to fix if you get bootloop.
5(I guess). Yes, you're right.
You can always get to bootloader mode and just flash TWRP again. I'm not sure is there any reason to care about balong "bug". I guess it might prevent updating with stock method and maybe some cust partition related stuff but I know almost nothing about that.
5.1 If you want to change rom and it's sometimes good to do facotry reset before installing new rom. In this case you need titanium backup to have app progress saved.
6. All I know about rooting is that you install magisk or superSU and then use it(so can't help with anything deeper) : D
7.I'll try again, but shorter
Normal update method only allows you to update on an unmodified firmware(Non-rooted) and it does kind of strict version checking.
If you are ok with doing factory reset before installing you can download update with/from "firmware finder"(can be found somewhere from this devices forum and probably also from honor 4x and 4c forums) to install update in TWRP(zip files from firmware finder have update-script in them. Official site updates doesn't have it.) This way there is no version checking. If you are doing this remember to reboot recovery when installation is done(it will go to stock recovery) and to factory reset. Then you can flash TWRP and do rooting stuff.
I wrote this a bit tired, so I hope the words are in order which they might make some sense.
amageek said:
No, the local update option is not there from Marshmallow onwards. But you can flash a zip for it too... Yes, updating your device to newer build (updates) will unroot your device... But you can root it again
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Ok. But I tried local update by pressing vol up + vol down and powerbutton and it tried to update but failed.
Now I'm glad it failed coz it would have unrooted my phone as I understand.
Did it fail coz the phone is rooted? Or is that pherhaps because of what keikari said: "only few exactly correct firmwares can be installed on top of your current firmware"? That I cant update from B09 to B10.
keikari said:
1. Oh, I just realized that that copy was to make superSU a system app instead of user app. (This only affects superSU app, not other stuff it installs) If you install SuperSU in system mode it will cause bootloop.
2. I guess you can try use superSu uninstaller or try to uninstall from superSU app. Then just go magisk thread and download latest stable magisk and install it in TWRP. You can take backup of boot partition if you want so it will be easy to fix if you get bootloop.
5(I guess). Yes, you're right.
You can always get to bootloader mode and just flash TWRP again. I'm not sure is there any reason to care about balong "bug". I guess it might prevent updating with stock method and maybe some cust partition related stuff but I know almost nothing about that.
5.1 If you want to change rom and it's sometimes good to do facotry reset before installing new rom. In this case you need titanium backup to have app progress saved.
6. All I know about rooting is that you install magisk or superSU and then use it(so can't help with anything deeper) : D
7.I'll try again, but shorter
Normal update method only allows you to update on an unmodified firmware(Non-rooted) and it does kind of strict version checking.
If you are ok with doing factory reset before installing you can download update with/from "firmware finder"(can be found somewhere from this devices forum and probably also from honor 4x and 4c forums) to install update in TWRP(zip files from firmware finder have update-script in them. Official site updates doesn't have it.) This way there is no version checking. If you are doing this remember to reboot recovery when installation is done(it will go to stock recovery) and to factory reset. Then you can flash TWRP and do rooting stuff.
I wrote this a bit tired, so I hope the words are in order which they might make some sense.
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Thanks again, I copied some bits to remember. I hope you were not tired of me not understanding things. You said I should just ask so here I go again
I understand most of what you wrote but:
TWPR can make a back up/an image of the device, right? But that image doesnt include apps and app data (or data at all?)? And Titanium doesnt back up firmware I guess.
So how do I make a backup of everything (except of the hardware) then?
Also Im in a dilemma about updating TWPR, because you said it will whipe data (what data actually?) and amageek said I need new TWPR for stock updates. So I need the "backup of everything first" I guess ... what to do? I have TWPR 3.0.2 now by the way.
Also cant I just download Magisk from Google Play now that my phone is rooted ... or is that being stupid?
7: Its strange, coz I remember I had my phone rooted (with the help of some old tutorial they should remove imo) but accidentally downgraded my phone with it to lollipop (one of the many failures I encountered ). But just with local updates B052 to B132 to B170 back to some 2KB B132 to marshmallow B609 ... something like that ... it was unrooted again.
Anyway, by update script you mean a script only TWPR can read?
And therefor TWPR does not check the version allready installed?
Is that correct?
But after this you say: "If you are doing this remember to reboot recovery when installation is done (it will go to stock recovery) and to factory reset.
Then you can flash TWRP and do rooting stuff."
I dont get that, coz that means you have to start all over again ... or do I miss something?
Im sorry, im doing the best I can.
TommyWhite said:
Ok. But I tried local update by pressing vol up + vol down and powerbutton and it tried to update but failed.
Now I'm glad it failed coz it would have unrooted my phone as I understand.
Did it fail coz the phone is rooted? Or is that pherhaps because of what keikari said: "only few exactly correct firmwares can be installed on top of your current firmware"? That I cant update from B09 to B10.
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Do you have have stock recovery or TWRP recovery? If you have TWRP recovery then fish stock recovery and then try updating again...