Why after a lot of time there are no custom kernel(oc) for Oreo and why some kernels Wich don't work don t have accurate clock speed are not deleted or banned rooms ..?
Is there any developer who can make kernel for Oreo who know what doing and have accurate clock and proper clock table?????
Bogdans29 said:
Why after a lot of time there are no custom kernel(oc) for Oreo and why some kernels Wich don't work don t have accurate clock speed are not deleted or banned rooms ..?
Is there any developer who can make kernel for Oreo who know what doing and have accurate clock and proper clock table?????
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There are plenty of custom kernels for aosp oreo and yes some of the clock speeds are fake.We don't have oreo TW yet and may never get it.Also phone is nearly 3 years old now and you know the maximum optimal clock speed is no higher than 1400mhz or possibly 1500mhz.The phones hardware limits the possibility of any future kernel being better than what we have.Someone just tested twister kernel and got 41900 on antutu so that oreo kernel is the best in my opinion.You have a choice of at least 5 or 6 oreo kernels alone for aosp so there are plenty.It's just J5 2016 we have not an S9 we just have to accept it is a soc 410 and has limitations.Tons of kernels available from MM to Pie even twister works on pie.I think is a great phone but we cannot get something more kernel wise that is going to make any significance even with real clock speeds.
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There are plenty of custom kernels for aosp oreo and yes some of the clock speeds are fake.We don't have oreo TW yet and may never get it.Also phone is nearly 3 years old now and you know the maximum optimal clock speed is no higher than 1400mhz or possibly 1500mhz.The phones hardware limits the possibility of any future kernel being better than what we have.Someone just tested twister kernel and got 41900 on antutu so that oreo kernel is the best in my opinion.You have a choice of at least 5 or 6 oreo kernels alone for aosp so there are plenty.It's just J5 2016 we have not an S9 we just have to accept it is a soc 410 and has limitations.Tons of kernels available from MM to Pie even twister works on pie.I think is a great phone but we cannot get something more kernel wise that is going to make any significance even with real clock speeds.
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I'm just asking someone to make kernel who have options to overclock 1400/1500mhz proper clock
And a little oc of GPU for OREO...
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I'm just asking someone to make kernel who have options to overclock 1400/1500mhz proper clock
And a little oc of GPU for OREO...
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people have lives to live.
All you need to know to build it yourself is here, great tutorials from a really nice guy. Very helpful and normally replies to questions in his thread https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...w-to-build-custom-roms-kernel-t3814251/page49
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Why after a lot of time there are no custom kernel(oc) for Oreo and why some kernels Wich don't work don t have accurate clock speed are not deleted or banned rooms ..?
Is there any developer who can make kernel for Oreo who know what doing and have accurate clock and proper clock table?????
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Getting away from oreo there are a couple of TW nougat with real clock speeds.One of them is Leviathan and if you have problems flashing that just unzip it delete the build prop and rezip and flash it.The other one is dragon kernel and as far as I can see it has real clock speeds.With dragon I put f/synch off for better performance and read ahead of 2048.F/synch off gives a gain of 2000-2500 on antutu and risk of data loss is non existant for me.I am using dragon on odyssey and listening to music at full volume for last 3 hours and not a single pause and processing is superb.Dragon will give you at least 50% better battery performance than quasar 1.6.Only problem on dragon is it crashes exkernel gpu so better to use kernel adiutor and it works great.Maybe bulgarian jesus will make an oreo kernel as well.
Finsnevis said:
Getting away from oreo there are a couple of TW nougat with real clock speeds.One of them is Leviathan and if you have problems flashing that just unzip it delete the build prop and rezip and flash it.The other one is dragon kernel and as far as I can see it has real clock speeds.With dragon I put f/synch off for better performance and read ahead of 2048.F/synch off gives a gain of 2000-2500 on antutu and risk of data loss is non existant for me.I am using dragon on odyssey and listening to music at full volume for last 3 hours and not a single pause and processing is superb.Dragon will give you at least 50% better battery performance than quasar 1.6.Only problem on dragon is it crashes exkernel gpu so better to use kernel adiutor and it works great.Maybe bulgarian jesus will make an oreo kernel as well.
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Yes yes I know Leviathan the real one good kernel....but I need OREO BCS of ask 27 dragon kernel don't have real clocks to?
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Bit of a general question here, but I am getting some really wacky benchmark scores. They're all over the place and id like to know if any of you guys have found a rom and kernel that just works.
I've tried quite a few custom rom's now both Lollipop and Marshmallow, and they've all offered underwhelming performance (Not much faster than my old 801 soc device).
Albeit for the exception of resurrection remix, of which gave me phenomenal in game performance and AnTuTu scores within the 7700 range. A HUGE improvement over stock and other custom Rom's. Unfortunately Resurrection Remix 6.0 is by far the buggiest rom I've loaded, soft reboots everywhere, no working camera and artifacts.
Any recommendations for a good rom ? or should I be focusing on kernels with say stock Oxygen OS ?
I would say stay on OOS so that you can use all Sensors (FP and LF) and give Boeffla Kernel a try. Gives me amazing performance and pretty good benchmarks if i configure the Kernel to give me max performance (i dont do this often because a Benchmark score says nothing). With a balanced setting on the Kernel you get good Battery life and a good performance for daily use.
Use stock with Boeffla, guaranteed stability and from what others have posted with their tweaks seems best option. Everything else looks too experimental or unstable.
just use kernel auditor and use these settings; govenor-interactive, scheduler-row, readahead-1024, in virtual memory dirty ratio-30, dirty background radio-10, swappiness-10, Z-ram-250, under entrphy read-128, write-256. you will hit over 90,000 on antutu with stock rom. I've used these setting with stock with stock kernel, skydragon and oxyslim. i prefer stock now, i just uninstalled the apps i don't use plus oemkitlog, oneplus telephony, com.codeauroroa.img
But why should you even bother with Z-Ram when you have 4GB RAM in this phone?
Doesnt make any sense for me ...
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But why should you even bother with Z-Ram when you have 4GB RAM in this phone?
Doesnt make any sense for me ...
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It is totally pointless in a system with 4GB (even 3) RAM, wouldn't add performance since CPU now has to compress/decompress data on the fly - but what I'm wondering is: does Android have ZRAM by default or is this added? If it's added, lose it. If you were running an emulator this would be a hit.
Hello, i'm thinking of flashing a custom kernel to my MXP, but I don't really know which kernel should I choose cause I don't know which is better.
There are 2 kernels that which very popular around here are Squid and Ultra kernel.
I'm trying to flash a kernel which support for great gaming performance and extend the battery life a little bit, and giving less heat up my beloved phone. I've heard there's a kernel that can overclock past 1.6GHz, so I want to try (To be honest I've never overclock a modern generation phone's CPU before so I don't want to in over my head, plus I don't want to overclock it because I don't really want to because I've been out of the game for so long since I did it with my Sony X8).
I'm opening this thread hoping you guys (the Pros) can teach me, show me or recommend me about this.
Thank you
So as far as I know there are two kernels available for marshmallow. Squid's and Ultra. Squid was the first around here and has kept updating and improving. That is the one that you can overclock, as a matter of fact is overclocked as soon as you flash it. Most people use Kernel Adiutor to tweak it. Ultra kernel on the other hand expands on Squid's but it hasn't been updated in a while and some of the governors available on Ultra create crashes and bootloops. In reality the only way to go is stock (as in the one that comes with whatever ROM you flash) or squid's. Some people might disagree with me but I would suggest making your own opinion by reading through the threads. Most questions, issues and concerns are addressed within. Otherwise, good luck.
So I want to OC my phone a bit.
That's my only gripe with this device, that it's a tad bit slow - I think due to the high resolution.
Back in the past I used OC on my Note 2 and S3, and both became blazing fast.
I realize you cannot push a chip on 2,2ghz all day long.
But that extra boost is extra handy when you do need the speed.
I checked out the kernel forum of course, but I only found a GPU OC kernel, and one kernel with only a 2.0ghz OC.
That's only 0.1 ghz increment, that ain't not much.
Ps.: I realize that not every chip is the same. They all have different undervolting/overclocking capabilities, it's silicon lottery. But I do want to see if I could push my Note 4 a bit. And heck, it will throttle anyway if things get a bit hot.
And of course another post about someone wanting to control their cpu and nobody on these forums gives you an answer, I have been trying to look for solutions and kernals that offer cpu overclocking to atleast 3000mhz like how cm13 is, The problem is I dont like the ui of cm13 and want to use rooted jasmine which is based on stock 6.0.1 , but the cpu on apps only lets me clock it to 2649mhz and it doesnt let me set frequencies at all sometimes, it seems nobody knows or cares to tell anyone if their roms support cpu tuning or not, its sad and annoying because people seem to get their useless questions answered and not issues of this kind which are why some people even decided to root in the first place, like me.
Did u checked the Nemesis and Refined ROM threads from the exynos forum? There you can find what you want.
Here you can find and learn if you have a time and will to know and learn every possible things about Cpu ,setting up Cpu ,frequency and other stuff:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/general/general/ref-to-date-guide-cpu-governors-o-t3048957/page89
https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/general/guide-advanced-interactive-governor-t3290605
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one question... how to REALLY TEST and compare a kernel?
sometimes adding and modding the phone with custom rom, kernel, greenify and other manual modded cpu governor etc...... it's almost IMPOSSIBLE to understand if the perfornance, or battery life is affected by a kernel or something else.
A person could obtain a bad battery life but the culprit could be ANYTHING.....
so IMHO the easiest way to compare a kernel is the numbers of features and OPTIONS that allows it.... something like how many governor, i/o schedulers , tcp algorithms, dt2w..... and so on... because a PERFECT kernel... could be perfect in some roms.... and worse on others.....
there are too many complications about the number of apps, which apps, to use greenify or naptime/forcedoze , and a possible incompatibility with a specific ROM with specific kernel.
after all........ maybe the simpler test is to keep the same configuration of the rom for at least 1 week, make a nandroid twrp backup, flash 1 kernel, keep it 1 week ( and see results), then restore twrp with stock kernel/rom , then flash the second one kernel, keep 1 week, then restore backup, test 3rd kernel.... and so on? making it sure NOTHING CHANGE, no greenify change... no gaggressive doze setting change....
it would be nice if other people would write here they combination of precise KERNEL + ROM used to achieve a great battery life and SOT.......
No doubt all these kernels are well tuned and devs are making them better & better every day. I always use RADON KERNEL and it works with every rom just perfect, never tried AGNI though, two days back I flashed ElementX and Franco kernel but I noticed two big cores are either going "offline" or shutting them off permanently. @franciscofranco replied those two cores were thermal throttled or something (may be....) but after RADON I didn't noticed that issue, all 6cores are back online . So for now I'm sticking with radon I'll flash FrancoKernel next week and see if thingd sorted out..
Most off all I think we kenzo users are blessed to have all these big names in development thread.
Why isn´t Lineage Os on the List (a.k.a Cyanogen Mod)
I certainly like Radon best . Save battery and not lose performance .
I don't like AGNi . Because it update too frequently sometimes and little waste battery .And that ,I don't like the AGNi Controller ,One reason :For users who use other languages, this apk is difficult to translate . But , I can't deny it is a good kernel .
About Other kernel , I did not use them for a long time . So I do not understand.
realista87 said:
one question... how to REALLY TEST and compare a kernel?
sometimes adding and modding the phone with custom rom, kernel, greenify and other manual modded cpu governor etc...... it's almost IMPOSSIBLE to understand if the perfornance, or battery life is affected by a kernel or something else.
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Battery and performance are undeniably affected by your kernel.
For example, the battery life on Nitrogen OS kernel is amazing, and the reason for that is, reduced performance. It's not slow, it's smooth really, but it's slower than Radon's balanced configuration.
And I think your argument that a kernel can be judged by the number of features, governors and schedulers it includes is wrong, because you don't need multiple governors or schedulers to get a good experience.
At one time, you'll only be using one, and that's why the stock configuration of the kernel matters.
I think every custom kernel has their advantages and disadvantages.
All we need to do is tuning it.
For example, I use Franco kernel and I changed the input boost ms for better responsive.
Or I use nitrogen kernel and tuning the governor for better performance.
However, I choose latest ex kernel manager app to tuning the kernel. It's more friendly ui and more reliable.
And the best thing is latest version of radon/franco/exkernel/nitrogen/agni has unified fp support.
Hi, this is a friendly request for the senior devs on this forum. I am actually a noob when it comes to kernel compilation. So I wanted to ask if anyone here has already compiled or is willing to compile the latest stock kernel (from 3.6.1) with no other features except kcal controls. Because me and other OP2 users feel that battery life is best on stock kernel but the washed out display is absolutely disgusting. Also if it's not possible just us know, thanks in advance!
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Hi, this is a friendly request for the senior devs on this forum. I am actually a noob when it comes to kernel compilation. So I wanted to ask if anyone here has already compiled or is willing to compile the latest stock kernel (from 3.6.1) with no other features except kcal controls. Because me and other OP2 users feel that battery life is best on stock kernel but the washed out display is absolutely disgusting. Also if it's not possible just us know, thanks in advance!
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Did you try boeffla's kernel? gives much better battery life than stock for me (1/3 longer, in any scenario i tested it).
If you still want to have stock kernel here are the kcal commits. just set up Virtualbox Ubuntu, set up build environment , download official op kernel source (the 6.0.0 version!) and cherry-pick the commits (google it).
If the effort is not worth it, use boeffla's or stock without Kcal.
I can try to help you if you're stuck, but mind that i'm just starting with compiling stuff myself.
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Did you try boeffla's kernel? gives much better battery life than stock for me (1/3 longer, in any scenario i tested it).
If you still want to have stock kernel here are the kcal commits. just set up Virtualbox Ubuntu, set up build environment , download official op kernel source (the 6.0.0 version!) and cherry-pick the commits (google it).
If the effort is not worth it, use boeffla's or stock without Kcal.
I can try to help you if you're stuck, but mind that i'm just starting with compiling stuff myself.
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Yeah man I have tried boeffla. Performance is okay but battery isn't as good as stock imho. Maybe my settings affected it. Can you tell me which version of boeffla you use and what settings so maybe I can replicate your results. Thanks man.
ThaRealSaad said:
Yeah man I have tried boeffla. Performance is okay but battery isn't as good as stock imho. Maybe my settings affected it. Can you tell me which version of boeffla you use and what settings so maybe I can replicate your results. Thanks man.
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Sure, i use boeffla 2.4-beta5, interactive battery extreme governor (u can tweak max frequency on little to 1200mhz), set little cores (i use 2, you can set it to 3-4 for more performance) set big cores to min0, max0 (if you need power to play games etc. set to min0 max 1-2) GPU underclocked to 27mhz, boost disabled, governor adreno (or powersave, might gives lags)
Further i installed xposed, greenify, amplify (there is a free version, but u have to compile it by yourself--> easiest with android studio).
And i followed this thread to maximize my battery life.
Tried several rom and kernel combinations, with this setup i get a sot of 5-6h with 48h of not charging or 7-8h in less than 24h. But on Lineage 13 its even better... (trying to compile a custom oxygenos, debloated, without playstore, F2FS capable right now but not able to activate F2FS)
If you're interested in the ext4 image, tell me (its untested though).
wertus33333 said:
Sure, i use boeffla 2.4-beta5, interactive battery extreme governor (u can tweak max frequency on little to 1200mhz), set little cores (i use 2, you can set it to 3-4 for more performance) set big cores to min0, max0 (if you need power to play games etc. set to min0 max 1-2) GPU underclocked to 27mhz, boost disabled, governor adreno (or powersave, might gives lags)
Further i installed xposed, greenify, amplify (there is a free version, but u have to compile it by yourself--> easiest with android studio).
And i followed this thread to maximize my battery life.
Tried several rom and kernel combinations, with this setup i get a sot of 5-6h with 48h of not charging or 7-8h in less than 24h. But on Lineage 13 its even better... (trying to compile a custom oxygenos, debloated, without playstore, F2FS capable right now but not able to activate F2FS)
If you're interested in the ext4 image, tell me (its untested though).
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Damn dude these settings sound a bit extreme doesn't your phone lag like hell lol. And oh hey that sounds really interesting! Is it based off 3.6.1? And what kernel have you implemented it with. Right now I'm testing HalogenOS (loving it so far) but when I feel like switching again I would love to try your build. Link me!
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Damn dude these settings sound a bit extreme doesn't your phone lag like hell lol. And oh hey that sounds really interesting! Is it based off 3.6.1? And what kernel have you implemented it with. Right now I'm testing HalogenOS (loving it so far) but when I feel like switching again I would love to try your build. Link me!
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I don't even have microlags (with other kernels and this settings it lags like hell, idk why boeffla doesn't)
However, app opening speed and switching between apps is a bit slower than usual).
Idk what the official source's base is (i guess 3.5.8) as i could'nt boot it up yet. Kernel is original kernel (with F2FS activated by me), i'll change this when it boots with f2fs.
I'll send you the link when i have time