Pixel 3 camera on Z17 - ZTE Nubia Z17 Questions & Answers

Hi people I just wanted to know if you tried the Pixel 3 camera app on this phone. Maybe you could get better low light pics . I want to buy that phone so much but I've seen that the camera is not so good at night as it just increases the ISO a lot. Thanks

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Camera Quality Sucks..!

hey guys,
does anyone else feel that Note 3 camera sucks? Note 2 has a better camera quality.
1. Low light images are too much grainy
2. Flash light power is low as compared to Note 2
3. Camera takes a lot of time to open, click a photo...
anyone else facing the same problem? OR is it just me?
pratik_193 said:
hey guys,
does anyone else feel that Note 3 camera sucks? Note 2 has a better camera quality.
1. Low light images are too much grainy
2. Flash light power is low as compared to Note 2
3. Camera takes a lot of time to open, click a photo...
anyone else facing the same problem? OR is it just me?
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Uh.. no. The Flash light is actually lower on purpose not to over light the picture. You can try flash light apps and set the light brighter. Quality is muuch better than on note 2. Felt the same way in the beginning but then I checked 2 vs 3 picks on PC and the quality is significantly better. On one thing I do agree though the app takes longer but you can try different apps.

Is the camera this bad?

I've heard too many negative reviews about the camera and that it can be a deal breaker..so which camera is better iphone 6's camera or the axon 7's camera?
Bought the phone because previous one was stolen few days before I went traveling in China. Been more than happy with the pictures it takes. Panorama is cool too. It struggled with low light, but it improving noticably with every update.
Uploaded a few pics from a national park in China for you. You be the judge. All pics were made with auto mode.
https://apexalpha.stackstorage.com/index.php/s/NZeWb0ifRNf02aM
I have to say though. The iPhone costs $300 more. If you care so much go for the Galaxy S7 for camera (and Android)
Actually not that bad
I remember hearing tons of negative reviews on the camera and being worried that it wasn't going to be that good but after using the phone for about a week I can honestly say the camera is pretty good. It does struggle a bit in low light, though but that's simply because of the amount of megapixels. In my opinion, some reviewers are just a bit picky
memo45 said:
I've heard too many negative reviews about the camera and that it can be a deal breaker..so which camera is better iphone 6's camera or the axon 7's camera?
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I'm coming from a Nexus 6P and the Axon 7 camera just doesn't compare, especially in low light. The 6P had a great camera. That being said, since B27 came out things have improved noticeably and while the camera still isn't ad good as the 6P, it's more usable now and does produce decent enough shots in low and pretty good ones in good light.
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Low light scenes are very challenging for the camera. ZTE really need to improve the HDR processing, where it can't touch 2015's Nexus phones and where it trails the much cheaper Honor 7.
There's not much sun where I am and I'm really noticing the difference.
You can certainly get better-looking results by playing with white balance in manual mode but that won't help you if you want to snap a darker foreground without blowing out all the background detail - a trick the Nexus phones' HDR+ excels at. I know they are deadly slow but I'd be happy to put up with much longer exposure times if it meant better pictures.
Could you please provide some selfie snaps as I'm kindda of a selfie guy?
Also I currently have the iPhone 5 so if the axon's camera is worse than the iphone 5 I might go with the oneplus 3 even though I hate its 1080p screen
memo45 said:
Could you please provide some selfie snaps as I'm kindda of a selfie guy?
Also I currently have the iPhone 5 so if the axon's camera is worse than the iphone 5 I might go with the oneplus 3 even though I hate its 1080p screen
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There's such thing as a sefie guy?
kidnova said:
There's such thing as a sefie guy?
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At least where I live?
Could someone Post some selfies?

Camera is quite capable, the MIUI camera is the weak link.

Here's some shots taken with a 3rd party app called Snap Camera. Enjoy!
Hmm limited file size attachments. Here are links to the originals!
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bx_9X4Ugo_yaUWZvek1BM1R0TUU/view?usp=drivesdk
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bx_9X4Ugo_yaMkx3VnFDYkoyYXM/view?usp=drivesdk
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I put Google camera and open camera on mine and while they seem better both are somewhat slow to auto focus and snap oic. For a camera on phone to me that quick snap is important. May try the one you mentioned to see if better.
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SWBgHz said:
I put Google camera and open camera on mine and while they seem better both are somewhat slow to auto focus and snap oic. For a camera on phone to me that quick snap is important. May try the one you mentioned to see if better.
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It has zero shutter lag, instant photos, really recommend it. Let me know if you want my settings! I'm not 100% sure but It may be a paid app, i think i'd purchased it sometime in the past.
Edit - Tried Open Camera - not very good output, couldn't get Google Camera to work for some reason.. Snap Camera is definitely the best I've seen so far.
Paulrgod,
Thank you so much for this post. What a difference snap makes. No focus breathing and stabilization built in. Huge win as the camera is so important to me as it is my daily picture taker for my family and the biggest concern for this phone...but not any more.
Thanks again!
No problem, happy to help.
I took some photos of my son playing in the living room the other day and it was awful, unacceptable quality really.
So I decided to see if any other apps would make a difference. The quality of the photos I posted above were better quality than comparison shots I took on my Note 5!
Still struggling in low light a bit though, but I've found keeping the ISO in check, set at 400 / 800 the shots are acceptable, but can be difficult getting it to take the shot.
Those shots are extremely noisy, lacking detail and soft ... they just feature heavy post processing (by the app) to make it more attractive to the average punter - saturation, contrast and smoothing. The camera absolutely isn't capable. In fact, many phones of similar price have better selfie sensors than this phone does main camera ...
Well someone's a bit grumpy. Did you click the links to see the full versions? The attachments in the first post are poor due to size rrestrictions. I'm quite happy with them actually.
They came out better than compatible shots taken at the same time on my Note 5.
Kinda hilarious that an app can do a better job than the phone manufacturer's own software.
I tried Snap camera too, but A Better Camera does better in terms of instant focus, or just it seemed to me
3rd party cams also do better in WB and details.
The camera is absolutely horrendous.
I felt like I went back in time to 2009
I've been using the Samsung Note since it first launched.
The note 5 camera is excellent
The mi mix is profusely bad
CorruptedSanity said:
The camera is absolutely horrendous.
I felt like I went back in time to 2009
I've been using the Samsung Note since it first launched.
The note 5 camera is excellent
The mi mix is profusely bad
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It's a matter of perspective. I too ha a note 5 and yes, it's one of the best phone camera's, as well documented through the year the note 5 has been on the market. So, by that logic, nearly every other phone camera will be disappointing.
However, from my unscientific observation of the note 5, Mi Max (not Mi Mix) and Lenovo Phab 2 Pro, the Mix is better than the Max or Phab 2 Pro. Focus and processing is faster and moving targets can be captured with some resemblance to the image photographed.
Could be the SOC (Max and P2P are SD 652 while Mix is SD 821).
I am enjoying the phone, even though the camera is less than really good. I'm willing to trade the 6.4 inch screen and condensed body for the lesser camera.
Just one man's perspective.
audscott said:
It's a matter of perspective. I too ha a note 5 and yes, it's one of the best phone camera's, as well documented through the year the note 5 has been on the market. So, by that logic, nearly every other phone camera will be disappointing.
However, from my unscientific observation of the note 5, Mi Max (not Mi Mix) and Lenovo Phab 2 Pro, the Mix is better than the Max or Phab 2 Pro. Focus and processing is faster and moving targets can be captured with some resemblance to the image photographed.
Could be the SOC (Max and P2P are SD 652 while Mix is SD 821).
I am enjoying the phone, even though the camera is less than really good. I'm willing to trade the 6.4 inch screen and condensed body for the lesser camera.
Just one man's perspective.
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Couldn't agree more on the bolded part as an owner of the Note 5 and returned the Phab 2 Pro after less than a week of ownership. Phab 2 Pro could of been a nice phone if they didn't cut corners in certain areas. Then again its all subjective to ones opinion.
Regarding the camera, wished it was as good as Samsung phones but I've used the 6.4" screen more than I've taken pictures so I'm ok with the traded of.
Do you know if this 3rd parry camera is actually capturing a photo and processing it? Or just basically screenshoting the image on the screen like SnapChat does...
Also does it have HDR?
VeryCoolAlan said:
Do you know if this 3rd parry camera is actually capturing a photo and processing it? Or just basically screenshoting the image on the screen like SnapChat does...
Also does it have HDR?
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Definitely Capturing and processing the image. Yes it does HDR - of which you can customise a hell of a lot - exposure values, delays between shots etc..
I've never seen a camera app with as many settings as this actually.
I do photography as a serious hobby.
Mix camera has its strength and weakness. (Native app)
The colour balance is quite accurate most of the time but it definitely love to over saturate.
The auto focus is snappy enough.
The auto exposure is surprisingly good as well.
The low light is terrible but ALL phone sucks at it.
HDR works and they keep the effect to the lower end which I like. While pixel has super good HDR results, sometimes the effect is way over used.
I really like the sharpening level they choose. It feel just right (More on the soft side)
Overall I would say the biggest flaw is that it's unreliable. Occasionally the colours are just way over saturated, but hey that's why I have a camera
To anyone that is rooted and has enabled the Camera2 API (adding persist.camera.HAL3.enabled=1 to build.prop), give ProShot by Rise Up Games a try. Manual Camera by Geeky Devs Studio doesn't work when I mess with the shutter speed or ISO setting but ProShot does. Now both of these are paid but I'm sure you have Play Reward credit spare
I waited for MIUI 9 to see if it would bring an improvement in the camera application but now that I have it, I don't see any improvement. So I decided for now to use Snap Camera. Can someone tell me what would be the best settings to use Snap Camera in the MIX?
Is the Snap Camera app, better then the Google Camera app downloaded from the Oneplus 5 thread?

is the camera that bad?

Hi I'm on the fence right now between buying the axon 7 European version and the oneus 3t and s7 edge. The only thing that holds me off is the camera.
I now hold the g5 that I'm planning to give to my wife. Now there is no way that she'll have a better camera than me .
So can you advise me pls?
Did the camera improved after nougat update?
Is the camera better with 3rd party cameras such as open caema app?
In every other field the axon 7 is an unbeatable beast
ItsNewDroid said:
Hi I'm on the fence right now between buying the axon 7 European version and the oneus 3t and s7 edge. The only thing that holds me off is the camera.
I now hold the g5 that I'm planning to give to my wife. Now there is no way that she'll have a better camera than me .
So can you advise me pls?
Did the camera improved after nougat update?
Is the camera better with 3rd party cameras such as open caema app?
In every other field the axon 7 is an unbeatable beast
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If you need a great camera on a phone get the s8/s7 or V20
From what I've seen it's not HORRIBLE, but it's not super good either. It's just... ok, I guess. As mentioned, if you want a better camera, get a Samsung or LG phone.
ItsNewDroid said:
Hi I'm on the fence right now between buying the axon 7 European version and the oneus 3t and s7 edge. The only thing that holds me off is the camera.
I now hold the g5 that I'm planning to give to my wife. Now there is no way that she'll have a better camera than me .
So can you advise me pls?
Did the camera improved after nougat update?
Is the camera better with 3rd party cameras such as open caema app?
In every other field the axon 7 is an unbeatable beast
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Well it's subjective, but keep in mind:
-The most flawed part of the camera is the software; ISOs are too high on manual mode
-Has high color noise, so photos aren't very good in the dark (unless you have a tripod, with which you can make some shet-in-your-pants photos)
-Very, I repeat VERY good on okay lighting conditions
-Already has RAW support
People usually say that the OP3 has a far better camera than this thing... I'm not that sure anymore, I compared an OP3T and my a7 and while it lacks on low light, the difference is still not that much.
Also different camera apps don't improve quality much, I used a bunch of them (HTC, Motorola, Google, LOS) and always find myself using the stock app for the simplicity and rather good design of it. The only thing worth complaining about is that you can only do 4x zoom on the stock camera, but you won't be using 8x digital too much anyways
The camera isn't bad, but it isn't as good as LG, Samsung or Apple, especially in low light. For the price of the phone it a pretty decent performer. I'm not sure if it improved as my phone got wet and the screen faild a few month back. I finally sent it in for repair today.
If Camera performance is a priority then the LG and Samsung are a better option. Where the Axon 7 shines is in audio both in it front facing speakers and headphone jack.
Check out pocketnow's review:
https://youtu.be/dTsg7EyYKFM
It's not even close to the performance of even older flagships in terms of overall usability. The Autofocus is so iffy that consider 1/2 of my quickshots are blurry as it just can't lock the target good.
On perfect scenes, the pics do hold up well against S7 and V20 but in terms of clarity there's just way too much noise.
The video performance is even worse often alot of noise show up and the low light video is completely unusable.
It's sad that the iPhone 6 which is much older beats it on all levels still photos, videos, AF, zoom.
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Well it's subjective, but keep in mind:
-The most flawed part of the camera is the software; ISOs are too high on manual mode
-Has high color noise, so photos aren't very good in the dark (unless you have a tripod, with which you can make some shet-in-your-pants photos)
-Very, I repeat VERY good on okay lighting conditions
-Already has RAW support
People usually say that the OP3 has a far better camera than this thing... I'm not that sure anymore, I compared an OP3T and my a7 and while it lacks on low light, the difference is still not that much.
Also different camera apps don't improve quality much, I used a bunch of them (HTC, Motorola, Google, LOS) and always find myself using the stock app for the simplicity and rather good design of it. The only thing worth complaining about is that you can only do 4x zoom on the stock camera, but you won't be using 8x digital too much anyways
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OnePlus 3 is better but not much better, the AF is a step up but still very iffy compare to S6 or S7. I even laughed that my Note 4 beats both the Axon7 and OP3 on just random quick shots. The OP3 often has blurry faces and washed out colors if the lighting is weak. Thats why the camera software on flagships are better they compensate the lack of lighting by fixing the images to good effects.
Any low light or fast action shots you take will yield better results in manual mode. I have the Axon 7 (US) and HTC 10. Daylight shots, the Axon wins. Better clarity due to the 20 megapixel camera (HTC 10 has 12 megapixel), and color saturation is more vivid. But low light or fast action shots, the Axon falls flat on its face. I can point and shoot with the HTC consistently, but with the Axon I have to play with manual mode settings to get a shot that's close to the HTC's. Even with that manipulation, the Axon still falls behind the HTC.
Cueball74 said:
Any low light or fast action shots you take will yield better results in manual mode. I have the Axon 7 (US) and HTC 10. Daylight shots, the Axon wins. Better clarity due to the 20 megapixel camera (HTC 10 has 12 megapixel), and color saturation is more vivid. But low light or fast action shots, the Axon falls flat on its face. I can point and shoot with the HTC consistently, but with the Axon I have to play with manual mode settings to get a shot that's close to the HTC's. Even with that manipulation, the Axon still falls behind the HTC.
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Yeah, I read somewhere that using manual mode would be better in low light. I'll have to try that once I get my Axon back from the ZTE service center.
The camera isn't great but is good for a $400 phone. We tend to compare it to more expensive flagships, so I guess I can't complain too much.
I got the Axon 7 for it's audio capabilities and all around good specs for the price, and new the camera probably wasn't going to be top tier.
RojasTKD said:
The camera isn't bad, but it isn't as good as LG, Samsung or Apple, especially in low light. For the price of the phone it a pretty decent performer. I'm not sure if it improved as my phone got wet and the screen faild a few month back. I finally sent it in for repair today.
If Camera performance is a priority then the LG and Samsung are a better option. Where the Axon 7 shines is in audio both in it front facing speakers and headphone jack.
Check out pocketnow's review:
https://youtu.be/dTsg7EyYKFM
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There is a new review from them:
https://youtu.be/l4lHnPOftbA
ItsNewDroid said:
Hi I'm on the fence right now between buying the axon 7 European version and the oneus 3t and s7 edge. The only thing that holds me off is the camera.
I now hold the g5 that I'm planning to give to my wife. Now there is no way that she'll have a better camera than me .
So can you advise me pls?
Did the camera improved after nougat update?
Is the camera better with 3rd party cameras such as open caema app?
In every other field the axon 7 is an unbeatable beast
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Cueball74 said:
Any low light or fast action shots you take will yield better results in manual mode. I have the Axon 7 (US) and HTC 10. Daylight shots, the Axon wins. Better clarity due to the 20 megapixel camera (HTC 10 has 12 megapixel), and color saturation is more vivid. But low light or fast action shots, the Axon falls flat on its face. I can point and shoot with the HTC consistently, but with the Axon I have to play with manual mode settings to get a shot that's close to the HTC's. Even with that manipulation, the Axon still falls behind the HTC.
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RojasTKD said:
Yeah, I read somewhere that using manual mode would be better in low light. I'll have to try that once I get my Axon back from the ZTE service center.
The camera isn't great but is good for a $400 phone. We tend to compare it to more expensive flagships, so I guess I can't complain too much.
I got the Axon 7 for it's audio capabilities and all around good specs for the price, and new the camera probably wasn't going to be top tier.
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I have to say that I agree with everything said here, the camera is not top, but still gives a really nice results AS LONG AS YOU KNOW HOW TO PROPERLY USE IT.
This is not a camera for point and shoot in any situation, and as the guys pointed out, on daylight you will get amazing pictures, sharp and with nice colors. On low light... it really depends on your abilities.
I had the Mate 9 for a month, and I can say there wasn't so much difference between the 2, even on low light they were similar, but always the Mate 9 giving slightly better results.
One more thing, the video in the Axon 7 is kind of mediocre. I don't care about video, usually I don't record many videos, but I can say it was huge difference the video from the Mate 9 and the Axon 7. If you are a video guy, probably you would be disappointed with the Axon 7.
In the end, I gave back the Mate 9 and I kept the Axon 7 because for me, any smartphone should have a nice display, good camera, decent battery, excellent sound and nice performance. Axon 7 has all of those, but most important, the audio experience that no phone in the market can give you nowadays, and is the reason number one I won't change this phone soon.
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Already bought the axon 7 and its a nice phone. The camera is real bad. I can't believe there are such bad camera nowdays. Plus the vibrator motor is noisy and of bad quality. Beside that its pretty nice phone
in comparison to my huawei mate 9, the axon 7 camera is really GREAT. it's like 3 times better than mate 9's ****ty dual cam.
can you switch off the notification vibration? its really annoying me, particularly if you set a notification sound. you then have a vibration and the sound both overlapping each other.
ItsNewDroid said:
Already bought the axon 7 and its a nice phone. The camera is real bad. I can't believe there are such bad camera nowdays. Plus the vibrator motor is noisy and of bad quality. Beside that its pretty nice phone
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The camera is not bad. The vibratation motor is bad, I agree on that. But I think they could make it better if they reduced the vibration power, which I reckon it would be possible
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The camera is not bad. The vibratation motor is bad, I agree on that. But I think they could make it better if they reduced the vibration power, which I reckon it would be possible
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I've searched but could not find how to reduce vibrator intensity. Even in resurrection remix there is no option. Can you recommend what to do?
Launch night mode, you are golden. Daylight is pretty good. And I must you, if you take makro shots: its FAR better then any phone i know
ItsNewDroid said:
I've searched but could not find how to reduce vibrator intensity. Even in resurrection remix there is no option. Can you recommend what to do?
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You can't reduce the intensity on capacity buttons vibration.
Also, the minimum intensity on google keyboard is strong , hence you won't reduce the notifications vibration either, It must be hardcoded in a way that not even kernels can't fix ¿?. I don't know. I'm not a developer...maybe we should contact one...but the fact that it's too strong on both custom and stock roms suggests that it can't be fixed.
So I've managed to get used to the vibration intensity of the though I wish someone would be able to develop a way to control it.
Regarding the camera, I've found that snap camera works great and the post process is excellent and make the shots much more sharper. Video above 720p are still horrible but what can you do.? Nothing is perfect
The camera is very bad in low light, the photo will likely be blurry due to the camera app trying to capture more light. But it does ok in good lighting. You probably can't go wrong with the S7 Edge, it's camera is better than the Axon 7.
Check out their camera section, in low light the S7's camera does much better.
http://www.androidauthority.com/zte-axon-7-vs-samsung-galaxy-s7-722336/
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The camera is very bad in low light, the photo will likely be blurry due to the camera app trying to capture more light. But it does ok in good lighting. You probably can't go wrong with the S7 Edge, it's camera is better than the Axon 7.
Check out their camera section, in low light the S7's camera does much better.
http://www.androidauthority.com/zte-axon-7-vs-samsung-galaxy-s7-722336/
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That comparison was made with Marshmallow, and even when the S7 will always take better pictures, quality and focus improved a lot in Nougat.
zte mini camera
i know this is likely a dead topic, but have there been any software developments, either zte or custom rom, that have improved the axon mini's camera?
i read of a google pixel apk, does that install and work ok on the mini 7?

About the camera

I watched so many reviews on this device, I bought a 64GB variant. Camera is so average even on daylight, Front camera is straight rubbish in medium - low light conditions. G cam don't fix this either. Is it me or every device has this problem?
Maheshzx said:
I watched so many reviews on this device, I bought a 64GB variant. Camera is so average even on daylight, Front camera is straight rubbish in medium - low light conditions. G cam don't fix this either. Is it me or every device has this problem?
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Probably u , mine camera is pretty good and at night gcam pics are so good and much better idk what's wrong with ur phone.
farhan20 said:
Probably u , mine camera is pretty good and at night gcam pics are so good and much better idk what's wrong with ur phone.
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Yes, camera is bad in low light conditions, take a closer look at details on picture taken at night.
I don't really know about you guys, but mine is just straight up awesome. I was on a 7 day trip in Vienna with a friend of mine, made a bunch of photos, in maximum sun light conditions, medium light conditions, low light conditions, and the photos weren't bad at all. My friend actually picked a photo from my phone to upload on his instagram. (gotta add that he currently owns an iPhone XS Max)
The main camera is top notch, the wide and tele have terrible color depth, lens flares, purple fringing, noise.
GCam fixes those pretty well though.
Maheshzx said:
I watched so many reviews on this device, I bought a 64GB variant. Camera is so average even on daylight, Front camera is straight rubbish in medium - low light conditions. G cam don't fix this either. Is it me or every device has this problem?
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The main camera has a competent sensor on paper, but in real life, even with gcam improvements, the results are far from stellar as the image lacks a little bit on fine detail, maybe due not good quality optics.
Of course, the front camera has difficulties in medium - low light but I think not more or less than many other devices.
This gcam version is specifically suited for low light conditions.
https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/f/changelog374/
And for a more general purpose I would try this one:
https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/f/changelog661/
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The main camera has a competent sensor on paper, but in real life, even with gcam improvements, the results are far from stellar as the image lacks a little bit on fine detail, maybe due not good quality optics.
Of course, the front camera has difficulties in medium - low light but I think not more or less than many other devices.
This gcam version is specifically suited for low light conditions.
https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/f/changelog374/
And for a more general purpose I would try this one:
https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/f/changelog661/
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Thanks a lot man. You really saved my day. :fingers-crossed:

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