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Hey,
I was using swiftdroid last two days and it appears to be killing all apps almost as soon as I quit it. I checked with Advanced Task Killer and it appears swiftdroid is trying to keep at least 45MB free even after I enabled 32MB swap with built-in VRAM.
This is very annoying. It keeps quitting facebook chat and IMO chat as soon as I switch to another app. I'm aware GT540 has very low memory but the thing is in stock, I didn't have any problem even though I didn't have VRAM/swap. I usually get around 25MB RAM free all the time and most apps stay in memory. I'm usually like able to launch the IM app, facebook app and still be able to use the browser or file expert or messaging app.
So, is there's a workaround? It's really annoying when it keeps quitting the IM app just like that!
Sorry for saying it's annoying. I know we get this for free and I shouldn't be complaining at all. It's just that it pissed me by quitting IM app, the only app I want to stay in the memory.
What version of Swiftdroid are you using
The latest one (M5), has improved RAM management a lot
And comes with better battery life, too
I got the same thing. Always 40-45mb free and apps being killed quickly. I'm on M5. Someone said that Joestone's AOSP is better in this aspect, but I didn't test it yet.
Mitalca:
I'm on M4. I downloaded M5 only today. I don't think it lacks good RAM management. It's just that its memory management settings have been tweaked to keep maximum possible amount of RAM free so that any new app will launch faster. Am sure there must be a switch to change it.
EazyLuke:
I don't really have any problems with stock 2.1. I checked out Joe's AOSP and swiftdroid. The only real advantage apart from speed is voice input. In Joe's AOSP, I couldn't get voice to work. In swiftdroid, it worked.
that's what I meant with RAM management
Maurik changed the settings on M5
mhoangtr said:
In M4 rom, lowmemorykiller setting is 6,8,16,20,32,40 MB so apps killed too fast.
If you want to keep apps longer, try set to 6,8,16,20,22,24 MB (this is default value of android).
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But I don't know how can you change that setting in M4
Try M5, if it ain't working for you, go to Joe's
Mitalca said:
that's what I meant with RAM management
Maurik changed the settings on M5
But I don't know how can you change that setting in M4
Try M5, if it ain't working for you, go to Joe's
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@Mitalca: That's the whole purpose of the post. I couldn't find the option where I can change 6,8,16,20,32,40 MB to 6,8,16,20,22,24 MB.
How do I change it?
You can change these values with e.g. this application https://market.android.com/details?id=com.lim.android.automemman&feature=search_result
I installed this app: https://market.android.com/details?id=com.rs.autokiller
It does the same thing.
I set the values to 6-8-12-18-20-20. Now I'll have to see if that brings an improvement.
EDIT: Tested it for a few minutes. And it seems to be an awesome improvement! I can switch from Facebook, Twitter and Browser, and everything is kept in memory, meaning these apps don't have to reload everything!
And it seems to be stable. I also use some of the "advanced system tweaks settings".
Thanks you guys.
XDA memebers. Useful as ever.
I'm gonna try both the apps and keep the app with slicker interface.
M5 isn't working.
Says assert failed when trying to flash via recovery.
Trys v6 SuperCharger!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991276
It Works Perfectly on our GT540!
I found this problematic, too.
I installed M5 yesterday. Everything is great except this (and I don't like oversensitive accelerometer, but it's not urgent problem ).
Last night I listened Music player, and surfed via Miren. After two opened tabs, Music player shut down . After four opened tabs, phone rebooted. Factory widgets' widgets are useless with this agressive RAM menagment.
hash87 said:
You can change these values with e.g. this application https://market.android.com/details?id=com.lim.android.automemman&feature=search_result
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Thanks man.
Works excellent .
EazyLuke said:
I installed this app: https://market.android.com/details?id=com.rs.autokiller
It does the same thing.
I set the values to 6-8-12-18-20-20. Now I'll have to see if that brings an improvement.
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To bad - it want access to too much permissions.
Access to too much permissions? Use LBE Privacy Guard!
What permissions?
And by the way, I wrote a PM to Mur4ik and asked him to try this app out. Maybe he'll change the numbers for RAM-management in his next release if he thinks it's an improvement.
EazyLuke said:
What permissions?
And by the way, I wrote a PM to Mur4ik and asked him to try this app out. Maybe he'll change the numbers for RAM-management in his next release if he thinks it's an improvement.
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There are plenty of custom ROMs that use Mur4ik's config. It boils down to personal preference. Do you want newer apps to launch really fast or do you want certain apps to stay in memory all the time?
Multi-taskers would prefer to have all apps in memory while people who like doing one thing at a time or who use phone for gaming mainly would prefer Mur4ik's config which launches apps faster.
The best thing for Mur4ik is to include an option to change the memory management config depending on user.
After changing the numbers my apps don't really seem to open slower.
In my opinion Mur4ik could lower the numbers a little bit, to allow better multitasking, but still let new apps open fast (just my personal opinion).
But I don't say he HAS TO do that, just a suggestion, if he doesn't like it it isn't a problem at all, because everyone can simply adjust the numbers easily .
That's true. xD
If I were to suggest, I'd suggest to add the option to change these settings. Apps opening fast depends on what individual apps are in the memory and what new app you are opening.
For example, if you open Angry Birds while your memory is at 16MB, you certainly can't expect it to open fast.
On the other hand, if you open messaging app while memory is at 16MB, it certainly will open faster.
But, I really disliked the apps Swiftdroid had in the latest release. I had to get rid of the whole GO suit with Uninstaller for Root.
nibras_reeza said:
But, I really disliked the apps Swiftdroid had in the latest release. I had to get rid of the whole GO suit with Uninstaller for Root.
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Try M6, was released yesterday, it's completely clean! Only Tonepicker and QuickSettings are added.
SWEETTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!! xD
you could also try to put mur4ik rom in the kitchen and play with autokiller settings ...
this is michalak8 from android.com.pl (mike's froYo dev) looking for that magic 10 posts to post my rom) Could someone close the rom thread in development section - I would like to post it my self without google-translate bugs
mikegapinski
There seems to be quite a lot of profile/audio managers on the market so I'm looking for recommendations from people who've tried and tested some.
The main use I want one of these apps to perform is auto changing/scheduling profiles at certain times of day. For example, at work my mobile has to be on silent but when I leave work I want to be able to hear calls. Then when I get my much needed beauty sleep I want it to set automatically to another profile at a set time. I want it to also recognise weekends when my phone doesn't have to be on silent.
All suggestions welcome.
Well, no feedback yet so I thought I'd dl a few of the free ones from the market and try them out. The one with the best UI, custo, functionality and profile management appears to be Profile Scheduler.
I've deleted all the others (about 6 of them) from my phone now because after testing Profile Scheduler I find that it works excellently, so far. I am going to find this invaluable.
Looking for some advice as I am still pretty noob-ish. I apologize in advance if this thread is out-of-bounds in any way; every search for answers that I've conducted always seem to beat-around my questions. Any advice will be thanked ASAP, even if you can shoot me a url to the advice I need that would be awesome. If it appears that I'm on top of things that would be great to know as well. Thanks in advance!
I'm running CM7.1.0 Encore Signed emmc with Tiamat v4.1.0 kernel; using Ram Manager Pro for optimization in lieu of task killers, Nook Tweaks for CPU stepping and voltage management, "Antivirus Free" for virus protection, "Battery Calibration" to monitor/obtain max charge (~4200 mV), and "Set DNS" for faster web-based loading. I've also disabled Android Cell-Standby Services through ADB and removed useless apps such as camera and voice apps using Root Explorer. My biggest questions are as follows:
1. Am I running the best kernel for speed and battery saving?
2. What are good voltage settings for better battery conservation (currently on default voltage settings)?
3. Is there really a need for a virus protection, and if so is there something better than what I have?
4. Is there any settings that I should know about for "Set DNS" (didn't change settings, just installed and activated it)?
5. Are there any other technical ways to adjust battery consumption (have to charge every night under normal use)?
I keep telling myself that I'm probably good to go, but I want to be certain that I've been as thorough as I can be. If anyone does something differently with great results please feel free to advise! As I said before, any advice or even just urls that help with my questions will be thanked. Can't wait to discuss this more!
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Looking for some advice as I am still pretty noob-ish. I apologize in advance if this thread is out-of-bounds in any way; every search for answers that I've conducted always seem to beat-around my questions. Any advice will be thanked ASAP, even if you can shoot me a url to the advice I need that would be awesome. If it appears that I'm on top of things that would be great to know as well. Thanks in advance!
I'm running CM7.1.0 Encore Signed emmc with Tiamat v4.1.0 kernel; using Ram Manager Pro for optimization in lieu of task killers, Nook Tweaks for CPU stepping and voltage management, "Antivirus Free" for virus protection, "Battery Calibration" to monitor/obtain max charge (~4200 mV), and "Set DNS" for faster web-based loading. I've also disabled Android Cell-Standby Services through ADB and removed useless apps such as camera and voice apps using Root Explorer. My biggest questions are as follows:
1. Am I running the best kernel for speed and battery saving?
2. What are good voltage settings for better battery conservation (currently on default voltage settings)?
3. Is there really a need for a virus protection, and if so is there something better than what I have?
4. Is there any settings that I should know about for "Set DNS" (didn't change settings, just installed and activated it)?
5. Are there any other technical ways to adjust battery consumption (have to charge every night under normal use)?
I keep telling myself that I'm probably good to go, but I want to be certain that I've been as thorough as I can be. If anyone does something differently with great results please feel free to advise! As I said before, any advice or even just urls that help with my questions will be thanked. Can't wait to discuss this more!
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Sounds like a good setup. You may experience market issues by removing cell service and camera, some apps may not show up. My question is how did you get tiamat's kernel to run on the nook?
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Sounds like a good setup. You may experience market issues by removing cell service and camera, some apps may not show up. My question is how did you get tiamat's kernel to run on the nook?
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I'd like to know that as well......
I used Tiamat's latest Evo NON SBC Kernel ( http://tiamat-dev.com/tiamat_evo/ ). After downloading I installed the zip through Clockwork (after wiping both caches) in boot-recovery and I'm guessing it's working fine... what issues have there been with Tiamat's before?
-XDA Premium on CM7 Nook Color
vessamj said:
I used Tiamat's latest Evo NON SBC Kernel ( http://tiamat-dev.com/tiamat_evo/ ). After downloading I installed the zip through Clockwork (after wiping both caches) in boot-recovery and I'm guessing it's working fine... what issues have there been with Tiamat's before?
-XDA Premium on CM7 Nook Color
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No issues reported, because the only kernels around this forum are Barnes and Noble source. Let us know how the battery life is. Not to question your integrity, but did it stick, showed up in settings, about tablet?
That's a great point. It didn't stick. All seemed well when I installed it but I guess the long pause on the next reboot was from the system restoring the last kernel I had. After looking around some more I came to realize that in order to have control of CPU stepping with Nook Tweaks you must have Dalingrin's 2.6.29 OC Kernel 09/01/11 (http://coachz.inetpro.org/~dalingrin/nook/kernels/090111/) or later. So that's fixed.
Meanwhile my battery is only good enough that I have to charge it at the end of every day under normal use, sometimes earlier.
After that, my list of questions fall to:
1. What are good Nook Tweaks voltage settings for better battery conservation (currently on default voltage settings)?
2. Is there really a need for a virus protection, and if so is there something better than what I have?
3. Is there any settings that I should know about for "Set DNS" (didn't change settings, just installed and activated it)?
4. Are there any other technical ways to adjust battery consumption (have to charge every night under normal use)?
-XDA Premium on CM7 Nook Color
vessamj said:
That's a great point. It didn't stick. All seemed well when I installed it but I guess the long pause on the next reboot was from the system restoring the last kernel I had. After looking around some more I came to realize that in order to have control of CPU stepping with Nook Tweaks you must have Dalingrin's 2.6.29 OC Kernel 09/01/11 (http://coachz.inetpro.org/~dalingrin/nook/kernels/090111/) or later. So that's fixed.
Meanwhile my battery is only good enough that I have to charge it at the end of every day under normal use, sometimes earlier.
After that, my list of questions fall to:
1. What are good Nook Tweaks voltage settings for better battery conservation (currently on default voltage settings)?
2. Is there really a need for a virus protection, and if so is there something better than what I have?
3. Is there any settings that I should know about for "Set DNS" (didn't change settings, just installed and activated it)?
4. Are there any other technical ways to adjust battery consumption (have to charge every night under normal use)?
-XDA Premium on CM7 Nook Color
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Sounds like your battery drains about normal. I lose around 12 to 15% per hour, always have. I have tweaked the voltage some, but did not see much of a result. There is is no need for virus protection that I am aware of. I have not seen a single thread on that issue (I have been around this forum for a year)
I can't advise on any DNS settings. You may want to play with the voltage some and see if that makes any difference on battery life. By the way, there is an updated kernel in the development forum in MiRaGe's kang build. Look for it in the OP. Also his build, for me, is the fastest and most responsive that I have used. Good luck.
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Sounds like your battery drains about normal. I lose around 12 to 15% per hour, always have. I have tweaked the voltage some, but did not see much of a result. There is is no need for virus protection that I am aware of. I have not seen a single thread on that issue (I have been around this forum for a year)
I can't advise on any DNS settings. You may want to play with the voltage some and see if that makes any difference on battery life. By the way, there is an updated kernel in the development forum in MiRaGe's kang build. Look for it in the OP. Also his build, for me, is the fastest and most responsive that I have used. Good luck.
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Thanks for the advice... I'll look up the kernel and see how it goes.
1) There's some voltage stuff listed here
2) I don't use any, it seems to me like most malware is centred around phones anyway. I just use Droidwall to block internet access for anything shady-lookin'. LBE lets you block more permissions, or CM7 will too, but with no SIM, no mobile data, no GPS, there is just not as much to be concerned about on the nook . Basically, being aware of what Permissions are, and checking them, should keep you safer than relying on a faceless, profit-motivated company.
www.theregister.co.uk/2011/11/21/mobile_security_dust_up/
4) If you're interested, Tasker can be used to under/overclock any app. So, your flashy game will run at 1200, your simple text reader at 800, and so on.
selection16 said:
1) There's some voltage stuff listed here
2) I don't use any, it seems to me like most malware is centred around phones anyway. I just use Droidwall to block internet access for anything shady-lookin'. LBE lets you block more permissions, or CM7 will too, but with no SIM, no mobile data, no GPS, there is just not as much to be concerned about on the nook . Basically, being aware of what Permissions are, and checking them, should keep you safer than relying on a faceless, profit-motivated company.
www.theregister.co.uk/2011/11/21/mobile_security_dust_up/
4) If you're interested, Tasker can be used to under/overclock any app. So, your flashy game will run at 1200, your simple text reader at 800, and so on.
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Thanks! I'm definitely gonna purchase Tasker now, as I've been looking at it for a while... and I'll check out the voltage and the security links for sure.
selection16 said:
1) There's some voltage stuff listed here
2) I don't use any, it seems to me like most malware is centred around phones anyway. I just use Droidwall to block internet access for anything shady-lookin'. LBE lets you block more permissions, or CM7 will too, but with no SIM, no mobile data, no GPS, there is just not as much to be concerned about on the nook . Basically, being aware of what Permissions are, and checking them, should keep you safer than relying on a faceless, profit-motivated company.
www.theregister.co.uk/2011/11/21/mobile_security_dust_up/
4) If you're interested, Tasker can be used to under/overclock any app. So, your flashy game will run at 1200, your simple text reader at 800, and so on.
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Would you be willing to share a profile for 4) as this is exactly what i am trying to do with no luck thus far. Thank you.
gsutton said:
Would you be willing to share a profile for 4) as this is exactly what i am trying to do with no luck thus far. Thank you.
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This is where I got the info;
http://tasker.wikidot.com/cpu-profiles-governor-frequency-control
I am eagerly awaiting my a500, which is being shipped right now.
In the mean time, I'd like to know what kind of optimizations you would suggest to get the best performance and utility from the tablet, so that when I do get it i'm all ready to go.
I have an android phone, and I know a big thing for it, was replacing the launcher with ADW, Launcher Pro, or Zeam. How is the default launcher on the a500? Is there a better alternative?
Secondly, do the available roms provide noticeably better performance? I'll probably be rooting for CIFS support if DLNA doesn't work out anyways, so it'd be nice to know if the roms are worth it.
Are there any settings I should change from default that would make the performance better? Or anything else you suggest?
Thanks for all your help
Some of the roms do offer performance improvements.. Thou usually break something.. unless they are the near stock rooted themed ones..
same with overclocking each kernel offers different features you will have to find what suits your needs..
the biggest issue with custom roms kernels is trade off there is always something you will be trading.. WITH Many of them its battery life and app compatibility.Th biggest two most important things for me . well 3 really.. all require you to root your tablet
1 ad-hoc network support (just a single file to replace to allow this)
2 GPS.. There is a gps fix that allows much better sat locks.
3 Backup... Titanium backup needs root not to mention full backup thru CWM RECOVERY.. aCER Recovery installer from market can do this for you .
So other than rooting the device, you don't do anything else for performance gains?
you can put a custom kernel, the one i use allows overclocking up to 1.64GHz
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1170319
That looks pretty awesome to me, bwassef.
I'd definitely use it just for the CIFS support, but its good to know OC is supported if I feel the need.
Are there any other things I could do, or that are necessary besides kernels & roms?
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That looks pretty awesome to me, bwassef.
I'd definitely use it just for the CIFS support, but its good to know OC is supported if I feel the need.
Are there any other things I could do, or that are necessary besides kernels & roms?
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DON'T CHANGE A THING , not for several weeks. erica_renee gave that advice before and it's the best you can follow. You need to see how it's suppose to work and get a baseline so you know how it should work. Get all your applications running and working first then see what you'd like to change that it doesn't allow you to do. Then look at other ROM's.
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DON'T CHANGE A THING , not for several weeks. erica_renee gave that advice before and it's the best you can follow. You need to see how it's suppose to work and get a baseline so you know how it should work. Get all your applications running and working first then see what you'd like to change that it doesn't allow you to do. Then look at other ROM's.
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The not changing a thing of course goes without saying. even thou yes i guess it does need to be spoken always.. If its not broken dont fix . Root and modify your device only if it does not suit your needs stock..
im Blonde i cant remember to type everything.. Giggles.
Of course, if I can get along just fine on 100% stock, I'll do that. However chances are I will need to route for CIFS support if the DLNA app doesn't work well enough.
I was actually hoping for more suggestions that don't require rooting. Like alternative launchers, or settings on the device.
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Of course, if I can get along just fine on 100% stock, I'll do that. However chances are I will need to route for CIFS support if the DLNA app doesn't work well enough.
I was actually hoping for more suggestions that don't require rooting. Like alternative launchers, or settings on the device.
List of my favorite apps.
1 .Thumbs keyboard
2.Titanium backup. (Need root)
3.autodesk sketchpad.
4.co-pilot. GPS app that does not need data service area.
5.Paltalk video program..(social video chat)
6.office program. I have Polaris .quicknoffice and a couple otherness.
7.splashtop HD. (To acess my desktop from anywhere)
8.root explorer. (Does not have to have root but recommended)
Also astro. And file manager he. Es file manager are nice.
9.Yahoo messenger and the video plugin.
10. Google voice. Awesome so I dont have to give out my real phone number.
11.beautiful Widgets. I love there clock and weather add ons.
I could go on but will stop here
One more I use alot is andcad. Awesome cad drawings app.
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I can tell you that in regards to a home launcher, ADW Launcher is great, and has awesome honeycomb integration. some (including me) notice a lag in the stock launcher and ADW takes care of that
NonRoot Performace Tweaks / Apps:
- Disable animations. (Settings/Screen/Animation).
- Set wifi to turn off when screen is off. (Settings/Wireless & Networks/Wifi Settings/Advanced)
- Turn off all unnecessary radios. (Bluetooth, GPS, Wifi)
- Set screen brightness to as low as you can or use auto broghtness.
- Use Opera Mobile instead of the stock browser. You may find one you like better, but this is the fastest one that I've found. Also, make sure to turn off Opera Turbo.
- Use File Manager HD as you as your file manager.
- MX Video player for video playback.
- Thumb Keyboard to replace the stock one.
- Stock launcher isn't bad, but I like to customize everything so I use ADW EX.
If I think of anymore I'll post em .
Thanks guys, these were the kind of tips I was hoping for.
Especially that there is value using ADW as an alternative launcher, and that there may be slight lag in using the stock launcher.
Has anyone tried the tablet loaded with widgets versus bare? Is it possible to run it with a lot of widgets without it slowing down a lot? I was also thinking of using some more minimal looking text widgets to displayed weather etc. instead of the fancy graphical ones. I'm assuming these will be lighter on resources?
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Thanks guys, these were the kind of tips I was hoping for.
Especially that there is value using ADW as an alternative launcher, and that there may be slight lag in using the stock launcher.
Has anyone tried the tablet loaded with widgets versus bare? Is it possible to run it with a lot of widgets without it slowing down a lot? I was also thinking of using some more minimal looking text widgets to displayed weather etc. instead of the fancy graphical ones. I'm assuming these will be lighter on resources?
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I've got about 10 widgets plus a LWP and im still able to play games etc. with out any lag. But I'm also rooted with many different mods and tweaks I've done, so I'm not sure how it would be on a stock OS.
I just installed this amazing kernal, here's the problem the main language where this kernal comes from is German. I have stweaks and synapse installed and not sure how to tweak these setting appropriately to get the most out of this kernal...any help would greatly be appreciated. ..Thank you
*what profiles get better battery life **
The dev is Russian I believe. The kernel was on here but the thread was closed, something to due with source code compliance. Excellent kernel.
You can get sTweaks from the play store, and I'm pretty sure it's the same for synapse - try installing them over the bundled versions.
No recommendations - your use is unique for you, what may be good for you may not be good for another user, and vice versa.
You have a zillion options with sTweaks and synapse, just keep testing.
I don't use the kernel anymore because I didn't want 2 apps to control it and preferred a kernel where I could follow development. But from memory, I used 12 mV undervolt, no OC, on demand governer and got good battery life.
That makes sense...Greatly appreciate it thank you very much