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Root for Moto G4 Plus with Android Nougat?

Hey there, I hope someone answer to this thread and my doubt is about the Android Nougat root becuase I've installed the athene_oem_user_7.0_NPJ25.93-11_12_release stock firmware via fastboot and I've tried to root it by installing SuperSU in the TWRP recovery but the device gets bricked becuase the SuperSU installer modifies the system and doesn't use the systemless mode, so if there any other way to root the phone ? I really need it

There's no permanent root method devised yet. Here's a temporary one though created by Shreps (your device will get unrooted after a reboot)
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3532556
You can use it for uninstalling system apps or quickly restoring some TB backups.
Note: Will work only on XT-1643 model
Sent from my Moto G (4) using Tapatalk

1chrome said:
There's no permanent root method devised yet. Here's a temporary one though created by Shreps (your device will get unrooted after a reboot)
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3532556
You can use it for uninstalling system apps or quickly restoring some TB backups.
Note: Will work only on XT-1643 model
Sent from my Moto G (4) using Tapatalk
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FYI, I can confirm it works on XT1622 as well

What if I have the XT1641? Ok, I'll try with mine

siredux said:
FYI, I can confirm it works on XT1622 as well
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FYI, I can confirm it works on XT1626 as well

Any root method for the Moto G4 yet?

Is there a working root method for the Moto G4 (Running Android 7.0) yet?
And I'm not talking about the G4 plus...
I desperately want to break my phone free.
There must be one by now.

TheTechnoToast said:
Is there a working root method for the Moto G4 (Running Android 7.0) yet?
And I'm not talking about the G4 plus...
I desperately want to break my phone free.
There must be one by now.
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G4 and G4 plus use the same method, flash TWRP then elemental x kernel and then you can root it With super su or magisk.
Enviado desde mi Moto G⁴ #StayUnbeaten

syverman said:
G4 and G4 plus use the same method, flash TWRP then elemental x kernel and then you can root it With super su or magisk.
Enviado desde mi Moto G⁴ #StayUnbeaten
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Thanks for the reply! Is there a guide to do this?

TheTechnoToast said:
Thanks for the reply! Is there a guide to do this?
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I wanted to try it but I have a problem with the bootloader that I can not unlock because my computer is the amazon version that no one could remove said ads in the latest security update NPJ25.93.14.5, if anyone knows of any solution I will be grateful .

TheTechnoToast said:
Thanks for the reply! Is there a guide to do this?
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This guide shows you how to root with SuperSU https://forum.xda-developers.com/mo...de-root-moto-g4-plus-supersu-android-t3587918
Ensure you've flashed a custom kernel such as ElementalX before rooting, else you'll trip anti-rooting protections built into the stock kernel, which may necessitate a re-flash of your stock ROM. You may wish to use newer versions of SuperSU. Alternatively, if you wish to use magisk for rooting, you can have a look at this guide I've written based on the above link: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=72496111&postcount=270
I've used this method to root a G4 Plus running NPJS25.93-14-8 (June 2017 stock ROM) with magisk 13.3 and have EX Kernel Manager, Amaze and other root utilities running okay. Furthermore, with the built-in root hiding abilities of magisk, SafetyNet dependent apps appear to run okay. I believe SuperSU has a similar addon to hide root from various detection methods too.
Something I've run into with using the stock ROM with TWRP is that Google Play Store may show an error 0 when attempting to download apps or updating. Seems this is related to permissions issues on the data partition and you may be able to correct them with this post: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=73604008&postcount=19
As mentioned above, the same steps should apply to G4 devices (and has been tested on G4 devices). As usual, unlocking your bootloader will wipe your device (as a security measure) so back up your data and move it off your device. You may wish to back up your SD card if adopted as internal storage (or find a way to save your encryption key). Also, requesting the unlock key from Motorola, regardless of whether you use it, appears to void your remaining service warranty.
Futhermore, once rooted, you will not be able to accept OTA updates, and attempts to do so will soft-bootloop your device unless you boot to bootloader and select 'Start' to boot to system. To accept OTA updates, you'll have to revert back to a clean stock ROM (and of the same build or newer - attempts to revert back to older stock ROMs than what you had, especially if you were previously on the March/June 2017 patch level, have a nasty habit of hard bricking if you took OTA updates).
If you're okay with all that, then good luck rooting

echo92 said:
This guide shows you how to root with SuperSU https://forum.xda-developers.com/mo...de-root-moto-g4-plus-supersu-android-t3587918
Ensure you've flashed a custom kernel such as ElementalX before rooting, else you'll trip anti-rooting protections built into the stock kernel, which may necessitate a re-flash of your stock ROM. You may wish to use newer versions of SuperSU. Alternatively, if you wish to use magisk for rooting, you can have a look at this guide I've written based on the above link: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=72496111&postcount=270
I've used this method to root a G4 Plus running NPJS25.93-14-8 (June 2017 stock ROM) with magisk 13.3 and have EX Kernel Manager, Amaze and other root utilities running okay. Furthermore, with the built-in root hiding abilities of magisk, SafetyNet dependent apps appear to run okay. I believe SuperSU has a similar addon to hide root from various detection methods too.
Something I've run into with using the stock ROM with TWRP is that Google Play Store may show an error 0 when attempting to download apps or updating. Seems this is related to permissions issues on the data partition and you may be able to correct them with this post: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=73604008&postcount=19
As mentioned above, the same steps should apply to G4 devices (and has been tested on G4 devices). As usual, unlocking your bootloader will wipe your device (as a security measure) so back up your data and move it off your device. You may wish to back up your SD card if adopted as internal storage (or find a way to save your encryption key). Also, requesting the unlock key from Motorola, regardless of whether you use it, appears to void your remaining service warranty.
Futhermore, once rooted, you will not be able to accept OTA updates, and attempts to do so will soft-bootloop your device unless you boot to bootloader and select 'Start' to boot to system. To accept OTA updates, you'll have to revert back to a clean stock ROM (and of the same build or newer - attempts to revert back to older stock ROMs than what you had, especially if you were previously on the March/June 2017 patch level, have a nasty habit of hard bricking if you took OTA updates).
If you're okay with all that, then good luck rooting
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Thanks for this. Yes, I'm okay with all of this (I've rooted my previous phones), I'm aware of the risks and stuff. I'll give this a try ?

flako72 said:
I wanted to try it but I have a problem with the bootloader that I can not unlock because my computer is the amazon version that no one could remove said ads in the latest security update NPJ25.93.14.5, if anyone knows of any solution I will be grateful .
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Um... Could you ask questions in your own forum please? This forum is for rooting help for the Moto G4.

TheTechnoToast said:
Um... Could you ask questions in your own forum please? This forum is for rooting help for the Moto G4.
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I think he is asking about the Moto G4 Amazon version. So he is in the right forum.

Caxref said:
I think he is asking about the Moto G4 Amazon version. So he is in the right forum.
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Oh, okay. But even still - I think he should be asking the question individually. Not only would he get more help from people but it wouldn't detract from my post.

echo92 said:
This guide shows you how to root with SuperSU https://forum.xda-developers.com/mo...de-root-moto-g4-plus-supersu-android-t3587918
Ensure you've flashed a custom kernel such as ElementalX before rooting, else you'll trip anti-rooting protections built into the stock kernel, which may necessitate a re-flash of your stock ROM. You may wish to use newer versions of SuperSU. Alternatively, if you wish to use magisk for rooting, you can have a look at this guide I've written based on the above link: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=72496111&postcount=270
I've used this method to root a G4 Plus running NPJS25.93-14-8 (June 2017 stock ROM) with magisk 13.3 and have EX Kernel Manager, Amaze and other root utilities running okay. Furthermore, with the built-in root hiding abilities of magisk, SafetyNet dependent apps appear to run okay. I believe SuperSU has a similar addon to hide root from various detection methods too.
Something I've run into with using the stock ROM with TWRP is that Google Play Store may show an error 0 when attempting to download apps or updating. Seems this is related to permissions issues on the data partition and you may be able to correct them with this post: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=73604008&postcount=19
As mentioned above, the same steps should apply to G4 devices (and has been tested on G4 devices). As usual, unlocking your bootloader will wipe your device (as a security measure) so back up your data and move it off your device. You may wish to back up your SD card if adopted as internal storage (or find a way to save your encryption key). Also, requesting the unlock key from Motorola, regardless of whether you use it, appears to void your remaining service warranty.
Futhermore, once rooted, you will not be able to accept OTA updates, and attempts to do so will soft-bootloop your device unless you boot to bootloader and select 'Start' to boot to system. To accept OTA updates, you'll have to revert back to a clean stock ROM (and of the same build or newer - attempts to revert back to older stock ROMs than what you had, especially if you were previously on the March/June 2017 patch level, have a nasty habit of hard bricking if you took OTA updates).
If you're okay with all that, then good luck rooting
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Thanks so much! Worked perfectly on the Moto G4.
Consider the question closed

Modifying Host File Without Root

I just ordered a Moto G5 Plus and expect delivery next week. I am not sure if I really want to root. I would be happy if I could just modify the host file to prevent ads. Is it possible to change the host file without root and still accept OTA updates? Any guidance in doing so is appreciated.

This is not possible as the hosts file lives in somewhere in the root folder or in /su
Your best bet would be to just root which is really no big deal, or use your home wifi router to block ads somehow.

MrTooPhone said:
I just ordered a Moto G5 Plus and expect delivery next week. I am not sure if I really want to root. I would be happy if I could just modify the host file to prevent ads. Is it possible to change the host file without root and still accept OTA updates? Any guidance in doing so is appreciated.
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Or root and still apply OTA using FlashFire

GopalKaul said:
Or root and still apply OTA using FlashFire
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I did not know it was possible to flash an update to a rooted stock ROM. With my Moto G3 I was restoring pre-root ROM, accept OTA, re-root, then re-flash rooted ROM data. Modifying the host file is my primary reason to root. I will search the G5 forum for FlashFire instructions.

MrTooPhone said:
I did not know it was possible to flash an update to a rooted stock ROM. With my Moto G3 I was restoring pre-root ROM, accept OTA, re-root, then re-flash rooted ROM data. Modifying the host file is my primary reason to root. I will search the G5 forum for FlashFire instructions.
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It is hit and miss using Flashfire on Moto devices... sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't, depends on what you had changed with root. Some people used it with the G 2015, but it often failed. I can't speak to the viability of it on this device though.
There is no way to modify the host file without root, period... You can use something like Adblock Browser or another browser with build in ad blocking though.

You can import host files without root with Netguard: https://github.com/M66B/NetGuard/blob/master/FAQ.md
Dunno if it can accomplish what you want though.

MrTooPhone said:
I did not know it was possible to flash an update to a rooted stock ROM. With my Moto G3 I was restoring pre-root ROM, accept OTA, re-root, then re-flash rooted ROM data. Modifying the host file is my primary reason to root. I will search the G5 forum for FlashFire instructions.
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If you only get Adblock, fine... But if you remove system apps , then it surely wouldn't work

acejavelin said:
It is hit and miss using Flashfire on Moto devices... sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't, depends on what you had changed with root. Some people used it with the G 2015, but it often failed. I can't speak to the viability of it on this device though.
There is no way to modify the host file without root, period... You can use something like Adblock Browser or another browser with build in ad blocking though.
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Can TWRP be booted (not flashed) on the G5 like the G3?

MrTooPhone said:
Can TWRP be booted (not flashed) on the G5 like the G3?
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Yes. If you have twrp.img it's just
Code:
fastboot boot twrp.img
while you are booted into the bootloader.

Excellent news. Looking forward to my new phone.

MrTooPhone said:
Can TWRP be booted (not flashed) on the G5 like the G3?
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Yes, but as with the G3 the Bootloader must be unlocked. Remember, that simply unlocking the Bootloader will cause SafetyNet API checks to fail in Nougat without rooting with Magisk, thus breaking OTAs as well.

acejavelin said:
Yes, but as with the G3 the Bootloader must be unlocked. Remember, that simply unlocking the Bootloader will cause SafetyNet API checks to fail in Nougat without rooting with Magisk, thus breaking OTAs as well.
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If SafetyNet API check fails, understand no OTAs, what about playstore access and updates? With the G3, even though an unlocked bootlader makes the device uncertified, the device still has full access to the playstore. I am thinking some day Google will be shutting down playstore to uncertified devices and those that fail SafetyNet API checks.

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If SafetyNet API check fails, understand no OTAs, what about playstore access and updates? With the G3, even though an unlocked bootlader makes the device uncertified, the device still has full access to the playstore. I am thinking some day Google will be shutting down playstore to uncertified devices and those that fail SafetyNet API checks.
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SafetyNet failure itself won't stop OTAs, but just about any modifications to boot, system, or recovery will cause a failure.
Apps will install and update, however, some apps check SafetyNet and will not function if it fails... Pokemon Go, Netflix, Android Pay, Snapchat, and most most banking and financial apps come to mind, but there are plenty of others.
I am in agreement that eventually devices that are not certified will not be allowed Play Store access, someday... But SafetyNet is only part of device certification.

I can not find a way to do it.
Overwriting the hosts file on the system with twrp does not work.
Install a zip using twrp with the hosts file, either.
There really is no way to do it without having to root?

Did you try Netguard?

Knutselmaaster said:
Did you try Netguard?
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Using PIA with Mace enabled works as well.

Unlocked bootloader, no root: how to fix GPay?

I've unlocked bootloader with the official tool but didn't do root. Now I have trouble with GPay saying that my device cannot be used for paying.
I don't need root now. So, the question is: is there any way to relock bootloader without rooting the device, installing TWRP, Magisk etc? Or, maybe, can I just trick GPay into believing that everything's fine without relocking?
Any response would be strongly appreciated.

Booolat said:
I've unlocked bootloader with the official tool but didn't do root. Now I have trouble with GPay saying that my device cannot be used for paying.
I don't need root now. So, the question is: is there any way to relock bootloader without rooting the device, installing TWRP, Magisk etc? Or, maybe, can I just trick GPay into believing that everything's fine without relocking?
Any response would be strongly appreciated.
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If you don't need root, why did you unlock it in the first place? You can't relock your bootloader if you have unlocked it with official tool. But by installing Magisk, you can use GPay. If you don't need root, disable it in Magisk settings.

anagramgenius said:
If you don't need root, why did you unlock it in the first place? You can't relock your bootloader if you have unlocked it with official tool. But by installing Magisk, you can use GPay. If you don't need root, disable it in Magisk settings.
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I was trying to resolve some strange unmanageable issue with BT headphones volume and sound quality by installing Ainur module. But somehow it resolved on its own during the unlocking process (due to reset, I guess).
Anyway, I've got the answer: no GPay without root and Magisk. Thank you!

Magisk without flashing custom recovery?

Hey,
Sorry this sounds totally noob, but I was trying to gain root access for my moto g4 play. I have already unlocked the bootloader. Is it possible to install magisk without twrp. Most guides online follows through twrp.
On official Magisk installation guide, it says to patch recovery. How can I do so?
Sorry, this is dumb but haven’t rooted anything in last 5-6 years.
Also the SD card slot on this g4 play is broken, so that’s a big problem.

apurveanand said:
Hey,
Sorry this sounds totally noob, but I was trying to gain root access for my moto g4 play. I have already unlocked the bootloader. Is it possible to install magisk without twrp. Most guides online follows through twrp.
On official Magisk installation guide, it says to patch recovery. How can I do so?
Sorry, this is dumb but haven’t rooted anything in last 5-6 years.
Also the SD card slot on this g4 play is broken, so that’s a big problem.
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