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[help]oneplus 5 or 5t

should i go with 5 or 5t? i want to mention that i currently use Samsung galaxy note 8(greatlteFD)..or should i stay with my current phone? I can't decide.. please help users..

razor6_4 said:
should i go with 5 or 5t? i want to mention that i currently use Samsung galaxy note 8(greatlteFD)..or should i stay with my current phone? I can't decide.. please help users..
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No reason to switch. Oneplus 5T has the same chip and doesn't even have treble. Do remember that even the Oneplus 6 (to be launched) won't match the S9 camera. Oneplus is good for raw performance, unlocked bootloader (custom rom support) and less priced than flagships.

usr3 said:
No reason to switch. Oneplus 5T has the same chip and doesn't even have treble. Do remember that even the Oneplus 6 (to be launched) won't match the S9 camera. Oneplus is good for raw performance, unlocked bootloader (custom rom support) and less priced than flagships.
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unfortunately note 8 has no aosp roms whereas op5 has a ton of aosp...and a heavy rom like tw lags most in the cases..not exactly lag and hiccups here and there... though op5 can't even compete note 8 with camera

razor6_4 said:
unfortunately note 8 has no aosp roms whereas op5 has a ton of aosp...and a heavy rom like tw lags most in the cases..not exactly lag and hiccups here and there... though op5 can't even compete note 8 with camera
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Yeah, best option is to wait for Oneplus 6. Treble is important for stable roms.

don't buy oneplus 6. because 6T became 2 months later
its ....

dont buy oneplus anymore, cuz that notch..

more_than_hater said:
dont buy oneplus anymore, cuz that notch..
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i am taking about 5 bro not 6..

razor6_4 said:
i am taking about 5 bro not 6..
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well, than there is no reason for you to switch.y you will gain no profits except buggy here and there aosp based custom rom.. so i said, but if you are lucky enough to sell your note 8 as same as you bought it - than go ahead

dadashi.reza said:
don't buy oneplus 6. because 6T became 2 months later
its ....
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more_than_hater said:
well, than there is no reason for you to switch.y you will gain no profits except buggy here and there aosp based custom rom.. so i said, but if you are lucky enough to sell your note 8 as same as you bought it - than go ahead
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main thing for me how is the battery backup on rr 6.0 and lineage 15.1?

razor6_4 said:
main thing for me how is the battery backup on rr 6.0 and lineage 15.1?
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not a big shot comparing to stock oos... except... bugs. bugs everywhere at rr (well, as always, nothing new here). LOS..? If you disable oneplus services at stock and install custom kernel from boefala or blu spark (didn't try flash, cuz i dont like its description), then it will be same as at LOS. So, no profits. Its all about interface.
Hope, this will help you.

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more_than_hater said:
not a big shot comparing to stock oos... except... bugs. bugs everywhere at rr (well, as always, nothing new here). LOS..? If you disable oneplus services at stock and install custom kernel from boefala or blu spark (didn't try flash, cuz i dont like its description), then it will be same as at LOS. So, no profits. Its all about interface.
Hope, this will help you.
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in my note 8 i consistently get 6 or 6.5h every single day with minimum 21h of usage...will i get this benefit from oneplus 5?
to be honest because of never update highest flagship of Samsung's motive has bothered me so much that now i hate Samsung and want to change..

more_than_hater said:
dont buy oneplus anymore, cuz that notch..
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i don't mind having a notch in the phone if it's perfectly utilized..

Mi A1 android 8.1?? May 5,2018

Why Xiaomi Mi A1 still not on android 8.1? Xiaomi should have a voice for Google to solve the user, or just a few should also be the direction of choice for users such as creating a MIUI version for Mi A1, because whether GG has the software development, But Xiaomi understands most of his products.

U bought mi a1 because of stock Android, if u want MIUI u should have bought a mi 5x

I was wrong to buy xiaomi mi a1. But xiaomi should also give the user the MIUI option on Mi A1. Google will abandon Mia1 ?

godinsideme said:
I was wrong to buy xiaomi mi a1. But xiaomi should also give the user the MIUI option on Mi A1. Google will abandon Mia1 ?
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You don't know what you are talking about.
Think before you write.
Think before you buy.
Think before opening redundant threads.
Take care!

This is the worst community I've stumbled across, and I've been long time xda member...Are you people real? Why do you want 8.1 update so bad, it's nothing major except few not so important features. There is a leaked 8.1 available at xda so we can expect 8.1 on our devices soon, maybe next month. That leaked version has some bugs, so when they fix them we will receive 8.1
You want fastest updates? Buy Pixel or use Custom ROMs and stop ruining community with same nonsense again and again.

If you want 8.1 so bad you can flash latest leaked version, I'm using it and have 0 problems with it, it's my daily driver untill official comes.
Sent from my Red Mi A1

marko.dnb said:
This is the worst community I've stumbled across, and I've been long time xda member...Are you people real? Why do you want 8.1 update so bad, it's nothing major except few not so important features. There is a leaked 8.1 available at xda so we can expect 8.1 on our devices soon, maybe next month. That leaked version has some bugs, so when they fix them we will receive 8.1
You want fastest updates? Buy Pixel or use Custom ROMs and stop ruining community with same nonsense again and again.
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I don't have bugs, i'm usin' it

Itemt said:
I don't have bugs, i'm usin' it
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Read somewhere like stock camera not working with some other small things that do not affect daily usage. Gcam works without a problem.

marko.dnb said:
Read somewhere like stock camera not working with some other small things that do not affect daily usage. Gcam works without a problem.
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Look

marko.dnb said:
Read somewhere like stock camera not working with some other small things that do not affect daily usage. Gcam works without a problem.
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Stock camera works perfectly on leaked 8.1 rom.
Sent from my Red Mi A1

Never really understood why its so important to have the latest software. You can run android 5.1 and still have support for basically all software. Anything after lollipop basically looks and works the same. And miui is being ported.

Me, for example, I would buy Mi5X, but it is not available in my country and doesnt have LTE freqs for me, so I bought MiA1, but I am sad about the device. I would love to have stable MIUI on this device.
I would love this device, but battery life is just sad, Google apps use so much battery, especially Photos, they used 15% in 30 mins (and I was just staring at one picture, it wasnt even syncing, it was just idle).

JakobSWE said:
Never really understood why its so important to have the latest software. You can run android 5.1 and still have support for basically all software. Anything after lollipop basically looks and works the same. And miui is being ported.
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You have right still use my mx4 pro(flyme 4.2 as alternative music player with android 4.4.4 with proper dirac support and maybe better sounding than most phones . Most applications of google playstore work.it got also android 5 (flyme 6 ) but audio decreases quality and no dirac

kutulu32 said:
You have right still use my mx4 pro(flyme 4.2 as alternative music player with android 4.4.4 with proper dirac support and maybe better sounding than most phones . Most applications of google playstore work.it got also android 5 (flyme 6 ) but audio decreases quality and no dirac
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Well, I suffer some bugs at the current state of our stock ROM. Camera has a lot of flickering, battery life not that good and I also got issues with deep sleep when device doesn't sleep at all when it is locked and I dont even have almost any app installed... not sure if Oreo 8.1 will fix it, but I hope that Android P will and will also bring bigger support for our dual camera setup.

Cheap phone means cheap people....
Many of those people complaining are just young baby crying for having things when they want
MiA1 is up to date looking other Android one phone
Xiaomi is working on it we have the may security patch and a 8.1 beta build !
Why those people are complaining ? The phone is working great it have a damn good battery, good camera, CPU, ram etc....
200€ for this is great deal and my previous phone was a 500€ Nexus 6
For the price I have nothing to complain about

Dead-neM said:
Cheap phone means cheap people....
Many of those people complaining are just young baby crying for having things when they want
MiA1 is up to date looking other Android one phone
Xiaomi is working on it we have the may security patch and a 8.1 beta build !
Why those people are complaining ? The phone is working great it have a damn good battery, good camera, CPU, ram etc....
200€ for this is great deal and my previous phone was a 500€ Nexus 6
For the price I have nothing to complain about
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And we've got a great and healthy development community, and that's awesome. If you want MIUI so badly, buy something else like the Redmi Note 4 or the Mi 5X.

Dead-neM said:
Cheap phone means cheap people....
Many of those people complaining are just young baby crying for having things when they want
MiA1 is up to date looking other Android one phone
Xiaomi is working on it we have the may security patch and a 8.1 beta build !
Why those people are complaining ? The phone is working great it have a damn good battery, good camera, CPU, ram etc....
200€ for this is great deal and my previous phone was a 500€ Nexus 6
For the price I have nothing to complain about
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Actually the thing is their is too much competition in Asian market, and particularly in India the price of the phone is about ₹15K, a price band where most of Indian buy phones, So competition is tough and we have good alternative available in market unlike Western Market. Maybe €200 is not big amt. In your country, but is is big amount in India. And no one had forced Xiaomi to price it lower, they were free to do that, they priced low its their problem now. Nokia 5 Runs 8.1( almost same price) and we also except same as we also Purchased Android One device. Anyways it coming next month anyways.:angel::angel:

Ritik99 said:
Actually the thing is their is too much competition in Asian market, and particularly in India the price of the phone is about ₹15K, a price band where most of Indian buy phones, So competition is tough and we have good alternative available in market unlike Western Market. Maybe €200 is not big amt. In your country, but is is big amount in India. And no one had forced Xiaomi to price it lower, they were free to do that, they priced low its their problem now. Nokia 5 Runs 8.1( almost same price) and we also except same as we also Purchased Android One device. Anyways it coming next month anyways.:angel::angel:
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Dude... Nokia 5 specs cannot be compared with mi a1. If they share the same price so mi a1 is way better in terms of value for money. Considering we have the latest OS from google (oreo), receive monthly security patches, have a beta build with 8.1 (which is not a big deal since we already have oreo and it's very stable with minimal bugs) and have these powerful specs and build quality then good job Xiaomi.
Stop crying about 8.1.. seriously this is getting ridiculous.

Ahmed Kassem said:
Dude... Nokia 5 specs cannot be compared with mi a1. If they share the same price so mi a1 is way better in terms of value for money. Considering we have the latest OS from google (oreo), receive monthly security patches, have a beta build with 8.1 (which is not a big deal since we already have oreo and it's very stable with minimal bugs) and have these powerful specs and build quality then good job Xiaomi.
Stop crying about 8.1.. seriously this is getting ridiculous.
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Don't make it what you want to make of it. People keep saying that you have to buy pixel for fast updates, or they give pricing a reason for this. I am just telling them that Nokia gives updates much faster to even the mid range phones. Just telling them that price excuse is lame
Their are bugs believe it or not, charging time has increased from April Patch, the phone becomes like a fireball in hand even when I play PUBG on minimum graphic within one round, And the biggest problem is that the Moderator of their Community, even doesn't reply to these if you post it their, communication is a big problem from Xiaomi's side from starting. People keep asking for 8.1, but AFAIK they give a expected release date, A expected release date will actually close mouth of all such people who keep spaming these threads.

Community development strength

You're a power user. Can the Xiaomi Mi A2 Lite keep up? Rate this thread to express how "healthy" the development scene is for the Xiaomi Mi A2 Lite. A higher rating indicates available root methods, kernels, and custom ROMs.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

Just hoping for the TWRP to come up soon. And for LineageOS-like ROMs to show, too. Eager to try them out and unleash all the phone's potential.
Looking good, though

The phone is keeping up very good actually this is my first budget phone after a long time of using the galaxy series,note series and nexus 6p it is a tad slower at opening closing apps and the gpu is also weaker but it is surprisingly good at keeping them open in the background. The battery life is by far the best so far i ever had, around 8 hours of screen time of actively using the phone. I really hope the development for this phone starts up looking forward to testing roms and helping out in the future.

No custom roms or kernels for now but the Kernel Source is already here and there's already some guides about different tasks, so the developpement community promises to be active, in addition to Android One and the GSI roms!

TWRP official is coming. phh-treble will be updated for rounded corners soon. we'll be selling mi a2 lite with boot loader unlocked (which you can do yourself ofc) and a 2yr warranty that won't be void when you flash roms. we're working on sponsoring opengapps twrp and phh-treble and providing dev support / bug bounties.
let me know if you want anything else...like lineageos official, etc.

hope to see development for the phone in the near future

Official TWRP is on the way, hope to see lineageos taking the same way as twrp.
It's a very nice phone, relatively compact, big battery, volte, easy to unlock, A/B partition...

An official Lineage would be pretty nice to have.

Ordered the Xiaomi Mi A2 Lite 4gb/64gb last week. Anxious to see it delivered. My old Nexus 4 is still going strong, almost 5 years later, but it is having glitches and severe battery issues when I run GPS and maps. The other day, it reset itself and wiped all my user photos. Most were already backed-up, but still. It runs Android 7.1.2, otherwise. So, time to move on with a new phone.

bmoke said:
Ordered the Xiaomi Mi A2 Lite 4gb/64gb last week. Anxious to see it delivered. My old Nexus 4 is still going strong, almost 5 years later, but it is having glitches and severe battery issues when I run GPS and maps. The other day, it reset itself and wiped all my user photos. Most were already backed-up, but still. It runs Android 7.1.2, otherwise. So, time to move on with a new phone.
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Official TWRP is here, working on LOS.

nice! Thanks!

d1ngh said:
Official TWRP is here, working on LOS.
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Woohoo

d1ngh said:
Official TWRP is here, working on LOS.
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15.1 or 16 If I may ask?

Is the notch well supported by custom roms like lineage os?

khoavn said:
Is the notch well supported by custom roms like lineage os?
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Not in every custom rom. Tried a few, GSI Pixel Experience P Rom does support it.
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I expected a fully working build by now but still looks like nothing coming up to 6 months old this phone as well

mortmaru said:
I expected a fully working build by now but still looks like nothing coming up to 6 months old this phone as well
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Agreed but still a great phone, now pie is (un) officially here so it's all good.. what do you really want? It is a banger of a budget.. how many devices have you owned that couldn't even be rooted comfortably? There are quite a few. I suspect things will pick up in the coming months as people keep hearing about this phone..

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Agreed but still a great phone, now pie is (un) officially here so it's all good.. what do you really want? It is a banger of a budget.. how many devices have you owned that couldn't even be rooted comfortably? There are quite a few. I suspect things will pick up in the coming months as people keep hearing about this phone..
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I have never owned a phone which can't be rooted starting with the likes of htc desire upwards then switched to chinese brands starting with redmi note 2 all have supported custom roms/roots.
This is the only one that has had very poor support.
I don't agree regarding budget cheapest 4gb/64gb version i saw for was about £145 for that price Redmi note 6 Pro is better value.
I don't expect much from this 6 months past and not even stable recovery/root and you would think some one would of done even a basic miui port (even original firmware has lots of issues still with slow updates compared to other android one phones)

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mortmaru said:
I have never owned a phone which can't be rooted starting with the likes of htc desire upwards then switched to chinese brands starting with redmi note 2 all have supported custom roms/roots.
This is the only one that has had very poor support.
I don't agree regarding budget cheapest 4gb/64gb version i saw for was about £145 for that price Redmi note 6 Pro is better value.
I don't expect much from this 6 months past and not even stable recovery/root and you would think some one would of done even a basic miui port (even original firmware has lots of issues still with slow updates compared to other android one phones)
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for root you can use magisk, I have installed it on mine. this phone is for those who don't like big phones as this can be operated using one hand only

OP6T Custom Rom

Hello!
There is no custom rom for our little one plus 6t ?

hugogogadget said:
Hello!
There is no custom rom for our little one plus 6t ?
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Got to give it some time. My 5T sat in the box unused for a few months because no custom roms were available. Heck the 6 still doesn't even have official Lineage support.
That being said development support is the only reason I buy OnePlus.

People please understand that custom ROM development is dead!!! sure you can bootloader unlock install TWRP and mods but development will never amount to much compared to the hay days of XDA. ..it's over
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The devs are tired of Oneplus. The times are over at Oneplus. At 6 there is hardly anything and that after months. The 6t will get worse.

SpectraFun said:
The devs are tired of Oneplus. The times are over at Oneplus. At 6 there is hardly anything and that after months. The 6t will get worse.
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Do we have treble support? I never thought to look into it till now.

SpectraFun said:
The devs are tired of Oneplus. The times are over at Oneplus. At 6 there is hardly anything and that after months. The 6t will get worse.
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I hope not. I switched to the 5T after Google dropped ended the Nexus line. Just picked up the 6T hoping devlopement would pick up like it did for the 5T. If development ends up going nowhere this will be my last OnePlus device and I go back to my hard and fast rule of not purchasing any device without Lineage support. No more hoping for it down the road.

My next Phone is a Pixel. I will sell my 6t and buy the Pixel 3 XL. Better Dev support, faster update and better Camera.

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My next Phone is a Pixel. I will sell my 6t and buy the Pixel 3 XL. Better Dev support, faster update and better Camera.
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From what I've seen Pixels get very little development support until they are pretty old. The Pixel 3 doesn't have very much development either at the moment.

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My next Phone is a Pixel. I will sell my 6t and buy the Pixel 3 XL. Better Dev support, faster update and better Camera.
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What sort of development are you guys looking for?
One+ 6T is "almost" stock android.
I came from an S8 where I was dev for the following ROM: https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8/development/rom-googlewiz-oreo-extreme-debloat-t3750641
It took me just a few hours to have the same ROM on the 6T, including debloating some of the One+ software which is IMHO pretty useless.
So now my One+ 6T looks and feels like a Pixel.
I can try to make a flashable rom for 6T out of it but I need to study a bit ... I did most of steps manually so I don't have a flashable zip.
Let me know if there would be interest in that.

foobar66 said:
What sort of development are you guys looking for?
One+ 6T is "almost" stock android.
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The highest thing on my wish list would be Lineage.

foobar66 said:
What sort of development are you guys looking for?
One+ 6T is "almost" stock android.
I came from an S8 where I was dev for the following ROM: https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8/development/rom-googlewiz-oreo-extreme-debloat-t3750641
It took me just a few hours to have the same ROM on the 6T, including debloating some of the One+ software which is IMHO pretty useless.
So now my One+ 6T looks and feels like a Pixel.
I can try to make a flashable rom for 6T out of it but I need to study a bit ... I did most of steps manually so I don't have a flashable zip.
Let me know if there would be interest in that.
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I am most definitely interested, however, I have the TMobile variant. Is there a possibility of unlocking and rooting in the future without TMobile unlocking for me?

Custom ROM development definitely isn't what it used to be, however we'll see a few in the coming months. Anyone know if DU is supporting the 6t? I'm not following them on G+ anymore since they weren't supporting my last device.

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From what I've seen Pixels get very little development support until they are pretty old. The Pixel 3 doesn't have very much development either at the moment.
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I'm a tester for 3XL ROM and it's coming along well
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foobar66 said:
What sort of development are you guys looking for?
One+ 6T is "almost" stock android.
I came from an S8 where I was dev for the following ROM: https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8/development/rom-googlewiz-oreo-extreme-debloat-t3750641
It took me just a few hours to have the same ROM on the 6T, including debloating some of the One+ software which is IMHO pretty useless.
So now my One+ 6T looks and feels like a Pixel.
I can try to make a flashable rom for 6T out of it but I need to study a bit ... I did most of steps manually so I don't have a flashable zip.
Let me know if there would be interest in that.
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yes it can be a good idea, and it can launch development maybe ? :cyclops:

Pain-N-Panic said:
Custom ROM development definitely isn't what it used to be, however we'll see a few in the coming months. Anyone know if DU is supporting the 6t? I'm not following them on G+ anymore since they weren't supporting my last device.
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You are right, the last phone I had with a vast amount of roms was the htc m8 and lg g3.
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Pain-N-Panic said:
Custom ROM development definitely isn't what it used to be, however we'll see a few in the coming months. Anyone know if DU is supporting the 6t? I'm not following them on G+ anymore since they weren't supporting my last device.
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You are right, the last phones I had with a vast amount of roms was the htc m8 and lg g3.

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Do we have treble support? I never thought to look into it till now.
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Yes. All phones launching with Oreo & above will have treble support.

Seeing as we now have a more than serviceable TWRP that can decrypt and a growing customer base of one plus users on the 6T, I would venture to guess development will be ramping up very soon.

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My next Phone is a Pixel. I will sell my 6t and buy the Pixel 3 XL. Better Dev support, faster update and better Camera.
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I had pixel 1 and 2 and one plus definitely has better Dev support

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I had pixel 1 and 2 and one plus definitely has better Dev support
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Yep I owned a Pixel XL and OnePlus 3 at the same time almost nothing going on in the pixel section but the OP3 section was thriving plenty of development going on.

There was a time that custom roms were so much better than stock roms, but nowadays many stock roms are better. They tend to be better with cameras rather than the generic cam that comes with a custom rom, they tend to also have better battery life as the rom is usually optimized for that specific device. There are many other things. About the only reason to root nowadays is to get rid of bloat and certain system files, as well as, modding your device with various mods like majisk and substratum. So I wouldn't expect a lot in the way of custom rom development. Gone are the days of Nexus and Note 4 development. Those days were a flashaholics dream!

Worth buying?

Hi, I would like to purchase a new phone soon or later and I still cannot decide whether OP6T is worth buying, I condider OP7 more expensive and OP6T is right in price where I would expect my future phone. Can it be my new daily driver for several years? Thank you

Had same dilemma 6t or 7! for me it wasn't really much of an improvement to justify the extra picked up a mint unlocked 6T for 249 still a grate phone and will be for a while yet plenty of development going on , unless willing to shell out for the pro then 6T is the one,
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I'm happy with my 6T and I haven't seen any compelling reason to upgrade to a 7 or 7 Pro. I'm running the beta, which gives me a peak at new additions before they are rolled out to the public release and my phone is running great.

The 6t is a excellent choice.

I'm loving my 6t, granted I stepped up from a Moto e4 plus.. so a big jump. I haven't really found anything that truly disappoints me to the point of wishing I had something different or newer.

Thank you so much for answers! And what about end of support, is there any year when the phone stops being supported with updates?

TrueMS said:
Thank you so much for answers! And what about end of support, is there any year when the phone stops being supported with updates?
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Considering that that OnePlus just rolled out security updates and feature updates for the OnePlus 3 thru 5 this week, I'd say you've got a few years of updates to go before EOL

I have had rooted phones since the LG g2. Stuck with LG up until I made the mistake of getting the k20 plus and, lastly the V20. LG broke too many promises. I and, others hung LG up. We were stuck with being able to trust another manufacturer and, hope that source codes, etc be released so that development could be active. I don't know if you plan to root or run mods or anything, if you do this device won't let you down. It is virtually unbrickable. Excellent daily driver that surpasses all of my previous devices.

I bought 6T and have no regrets

OnePlus 6T still rocken!

galaxys said:
OnePlus 6T still rocken!
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What about camera?

I too will be buying a 6T from a friend who keeps changing phones so I'm hopefully getting a good deal. Is the stock ROM great or is there some sweet custom ROMs that you think I should try? This probably the wrong thread to ask that.