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Any actual themes?

I noticed that layers is really just coloring the UI. That said, are there any actual themes I can apply a la gs6?

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abraxo said:
I noticed that layers is really just coloring the UI. That said, are there any actual themes I can apply a la gs6?
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Do you understand that that's all a theme is meant to do?

Heisenberg said:
Do you understand that that's all a theme is meant to do?
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Cm themes have the ability to make things look a lot different. I'm guessing that's what op is looking for.

akellar said:
Cm themes have the ability to make things look a lot different. I'm guessing that's what op is looking for.
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Layers themes even more than cm themes do.

Heisenberg said:
Layers themes even more than cm themes do.
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This is simply inaccurate, even the guy that started layers will admit that. There are things layers can't even touch that cmte can.

akellar said:
This is simply inaccurate, even the guy that started layers will admit that. There are things layers can't even touch that cmte can.
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There are things that Layers can't touch, but there are far more things that Layers can theme that cm can't.

Heisenberg said:
There are things that Layers can't touch, but there are far more things that Layers can theme that cm can't.
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Such as? Sorry but this is not true.

akellar said:
Such as? Sorry but this is not true.
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Well, apps for a start, and keyboards. Have you used Layers? I don't think Layers can change the boot animation, but I could be wrong about that. In terms of ease of use, CM probably comes out on top, it's a lot more user-friendly. Where Layers really excels is the amount of choice you have; there can be multiple options for each element. Anyway, we're kinda hijacking this thread now, but can you explain to me exactly what it is that the cm theme engine can theme that Layers can't?

Heisenberg said:
Well, apps for a start, and keyboards. Have you used Layers? I don't think Layers can change the boot animation, but I could be wrong about that. In terms of ease of use, CM probably comes out on top, it's a lot more user-friendly. Where Layers really excels is the amount of choice you have; there can be multiple options for each element. Anyway, we're kinda hijacking this thread now, but can you explain to me exactly what it is that the cm theme engine can theme that Layers can't?
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Yes used both plenty. Cm can theme the same apps in the same way layers does, but sure what you're referring to there? I will give you that you can piece apart themes easier in layers (at the expense of a user friendly experience). Cmte can change styles where layers cannot touch them. This allows for the larger element changes that you'll find in some cm themes and why many layers just seem to change colors. They both have their advantages but cm absolutely can touch more elements than layers.

akellar said:
Cm can theme the same apps in the same way layers does, but sure what you're referring to there?
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I don't recall cmte being able to theme apps and keyboards, but that could have more to do with my memory than anything else.
akellar said:
Cmte can change styles where layers cannot touch them. This allows for the larger element changes that you'll find in some cm themes and why many layers just seem to change colors.
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Can you be more specific? What do you mean by styles?
akellar said:
They both have their advantages but cm absolutely can touch more elements than layers.
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Again, please be more specific. What does cmte touch that Layers doesn't?

Heisenberg said:
I don't recall cmte being able to theme apps and keyboards, but that could have more to do with my memory than anything else.
Can you be more specific? What do you mean by styles?
Again, please be more specific. What does cmte touch that Layers doesn't?
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Yes it can theme apps and keyboards and has always been able to do so. Styles is a folder inside an apk that controls various visual elements. Cmte can alter this, layers cannot.

akellar said:
Yes it can theme apps and keyboards and has always been able to do so. Styles is a folder inside an apk that controls various visual elements. Cmte can alter this, layers cannot.
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Ok, thanks. What else?

Heisenberg said:
Ok, thanks. What else?
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Boot animations, fonts, audio files

akellar said:
Boot animations, fonts, audio files
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Ah yeah that's true. It is very well implemented, I'll give it that much. The one thing stopping me from using it is the fact that you need to be on a CM (or CM based) ROM to use it. I just don't see the sense in that on this device when you can get all of the same features in ROMs based on the official firmware (read: stable), but without all of the bugs that come with CM. One thing I really miss from CM though is the System Profiles feature, that's awesome.

We have ROOT now, what do we need to use Layers (theme's)?

I had a Moto X Pure and was running a rooted version of the stock ROM..... I installed Layer's manager and the layer of my choice (Dark Stock) and it worked.
I tried this with my Axon 7, the Layers manager installed fine and ran, but I couldn't find any of my installed themes to apply? Is there a setting that needs changed in a ROM in order to be able to change the theme, or are we just not there yet?

tele_jas said:
I had a Moto X Pure and was running a rooted version of the stock ROM..... I installed Layer's manager and the layer of my choice (Dark Stock) and it worked.
I tried this with my Axon 7, the Layers manager installed fine and ran, but I couldn't find any of my installed themes to apply? Is there a setting that needs changed in a ROM in order to be able to change the theme, or are we just not there yet?
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First of all, Layers has been deprecated and Substratum has taken it's place. Although it does have legacy support for Layers still. And secondarily, (maybe a silly question, but I'm just going on the way you've worded your question) did you download the theme(s) you want to try from the play store? And then there's also a good chance, even though android now has (some) native support for RRO themeing, that some things like the ui and dialer etc will not themes as the commits are not there from ZTE.

tdgillihan said:
First of all, Layers has been deprecated and Substratum has taken it's place. Although it does have legacy support for Layers still. And secondarily, (maybe a silly question, but I'm just going on the way you've worded your question) did you download the theme(s) you want to try from the play store? And then there's also a good chance, even though android now has (some) native support for RRO themeing, that some things like the ui and dialer etc will not themes as the commits are not there from ZTE.
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I seen there was a new name with "Layer's" being secondary in some of the descriptions? A lot can change in a month, because I was using "Layer's" just last month on my Moto X Pure and had no idea it was going away.
Yes, I did download the theme I wanted from the PlayStore (Dark Stock).
I may try it again since I've done a few more things to it....And I realize that not everything is "theme-able", mainly looking for just a few things, like the notification cards in the pull down and my settings menu.
But the fact I was still using the Layers Manager was probably the issue. I just installed the Substratum manager and it worked, at least for the notification cards. The settings menu wasn't completely themed, so I un-theme'd it.

This is all I really wanted! My PlayStore is also themed, the rest is left alone.

tele_jas said:
This is all I really wanted! My PlayStore is also themed, the rest is left alone.
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Sweet. So it didn't theme settings either? Nice to see that this much is indeed working. Are you familiar with TBO and their themed apps etc?

tdgillihan said:
Sweet. So it didn't theme settings either? Nice to see that this much is indeed working. Are you familiar with TBO and their themed apps etc?
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The settings *DID theme, but they looked like cards with a white background and you could see around the edges and the gaps between "groups". It didn't look very good, so I un-themed the settings.
Phone didn't theme (didn't expect it to)
Contacts didn't theme (didn't expect it to)
Playstore did theme
Calculator did theme
I don't use Gmail, but I'm sure it would have
Nova did theme, but I've already got the search bar colored the way I want it, so I un-themed it too
I normally don't theme the calendar or Google Photos, because I've had issues with the apps after they update - so I leave them alone.
No, not familiar with TBO? Is that "Total Black Out" or "Team Black Out"? If so, I have seen those.....But I like the more dark gray, or dark gray-blue themes as opposed to total black.

tele_jas said:
The settings *DID theme, but they looked like cards with a white background and you could see around the edges and the gaps between "groups". It didn't look very good, so I un-themed the settings.
Phone didn't theme (didn't expect it to)
Contacts didn't theme (didn't expect it to)
Playstore did theme
Calculator did theme
I don't use Gmail, but I'm sure it would have
Nova did theme, but I've already got the search bar colored the way I want it, so I un-themed it too
I normally don't theme the calendar or Google Photos, because I've had issues with the apps after they update - so I leave them alone.
No, not familiar with TBO? Is that "Total Black Out" or "Team Black Out"? If so, I have seen those.....But I like the more dark gray, or dark gray-blue themes as opposed to total black.
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Cool. Yes, that's Team Black Out. Yeah, I like the same color elements. Would you be willing to install the theme able Google Dialer and Google Contacts and see if they worked?

Here is the link and you can find them and other theme able apps in here. http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/apps-themeable-hangouts-layers-cmte-t3113192
This is how my Nexus6 looks.

tdgillihan said:
Cool. Yes, that's Team Black Out. Yeah, I like the same color elements. Would you be willing to install the theme able Google Dialer and Google Contacts and see if they worked?
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Will the Themeable google Dialer/Contacts that's in the PureNexus thread work? Or do you have a link you could give me? You can PM me it if you prefer?
[EDIT] I found them in the TBO thread

tele_jas said:
Will the Themeable google Dialer/Contacts that's in the PureNexus thread work? Or do you have a link you could give me? You can PM me it if you prefer?
[EDIT] I found them in the TBO thread
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Yeah, they're the same pretty sure.
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tdgillihan said:
Yeah, they're the same pretty sure.
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So....The ones from the PureNexus thread would reboot my phone every time I tried to open it. The ones from the TBO thread work just fine and were able to be themed as well. I much prefer the Google dialer, so I appreciate the lead on this!

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So....The ones from the PureNexus thread would reboot my phone every time I tried to open it. The ones from the TBO thread work just fine and were able to be themed as well. I much prefer the Google dialer, so I appreciate the lead on this!
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That's great news. I'm thinking maybe with that, Nova Launcher and TBO theme able apps for Google I may just be able to live with the factory ui for a while until we can get something more aosp once I get mine. But this is nice to have more of an aosp flavor for now. BTW, have you tried installing Xposed for other personalized modification?
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tdgillihan said:
That's great news. I'm thinking maybe with that, Nova Launcher and TBO theme able apps for Google I may just be able to live with the factory ui for a while until we can get something more aosp once I get mine. But this is nice to have more of an aosp flavor for now. BTW, have you tried installing Xposed for other personalized modification?
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I normally don't do Xposed with a custom ROM, but Xposed is great at modding a stock ROM....So, yes I installed Xposed for just a couple small things (using GravityBox):
1) Round battery icon
2) Center clock
3) More music volume steps (30)
I also used emoji switcher and have "Emoji One" emoji's.

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I normally don't do Xposed with a custom ROM, but Xposed is great at modding a stock ROM....So, yes I installed Xposed for just a couple small things (using GravityBox):
1) Round battery icon
2) Center clock
3) More music volume steps (30)
I also used emoji switcher and have "Emoji One" emoji's.
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Oh man, this is pretty much all I need to get me by until some actual development starts up. That is if we ever get sources or AOSP type ports. Only thing I worry about with ports is full functionality of all the features this phone has and oft times battery life can take a hit due to lack of full optimization. Thank you.
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From looking at the Substratum page, it seems like it has two modes -- one with root and one without. Is that accurate? It'd be nice to have themeability while still staying stock.

TeutonJon78 said:
From looking at the Substratum page, it seems like it has two modes -- one with root and one without. Is that accurate? It'd be nice to have themeability while still staying stock.
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You can read up on and ask questions here:
https://plus.google.com/communities/102261717366580091389
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Man all this good stuff is moving me in the direction of getting this phone, how is the battery life on this beast?

tele_jas said:
I had a Moto X Pure and was running a rooted version of the stock ROM..... I installed Layer's manager and the layer of my choice (Dark Stock) and it worked.
I tried this with my Axon 7, the Layers manager installed fine and ran, but I couldn't find any of my installed themes to apply? Is there a setting that needs changed in a ROM in order to be able to change the theme, or are we just not there yet?
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When you say we have root, are you referring to this method?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/axon-7/development/wip-axon-7-root-bootloader-unlokced-t3441204
From what it looked like there it was still untested on US model.

Oogar said:
When you say we have root, are you referring to this method?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/axon-7/development/wip-axon-7-root-bootloader-unlokced-t3441204
From what it looked like there it was still untested on US model.
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No, I have my bootloader unlocked.

Substratum + Andromeda Rootless Works!

So being overwhelmed with joy, I didn't spend much time searching to see if this was already stated... none-the-less, Substratum themes work great on Stock Oreo, rootless, with the help of Andromeda. Here's a guide if needed: https://forum.xda-developers.com/ap...top-clients-release-notes-t3668682?styleid=18
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...and a pic.
...those "thin"navbar icons may slow burn-in. ...allegedly.
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Indeed. I'm trying Archangel's blank navbar for that purpose until all that gets figured out.

Any substratum themes that make the nav bar set to 0

gaw316 said:
Any substratum themes that make the nav bar set to 0
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Maybelle pointed one out, here: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.amazed.navbars&hl=en

oryanh said:
Maybelle pointed one out, here: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.amazed.navbars&hl=en
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Oh, awesome! You can adjust the height to 0?

gaw316 said:
Oh, awesome! You can adjust the height to 0?
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Sorry, no, I misunderstood. There's a blank Navbar theme you can use. its there, just invisible.

Here's a good one if you're like me and like to have more than 3 columns for your quick toggles.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=me.msfjarvis.substweaks&hl=en

I've been running for half a day so far all is well..
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How has everybody's experience been with Substratum and apps? I love the theming capability, but keep on having certain apps force close. This is my first attempt with Substratum so I am sure I am doing something wrong, but not quite sure where to look. I have ensured that apps are all updated, and I choose the correct version on theme application, but I still end up with certain apps crashing. For example, I was using swift black (very nice btw) and Google photos and facebook messenger would force close. Is it best to only theme system stuff and leave apps alone? Or is swift black to blame? Or am I doing something wrong like I suspect?

It depends greatly on the themers, but can be easily broken by an app update. Themers like de Jan, Niklas Schnettler, Jeremy Beck, I could go on... Are very thorough and quick about updating themes. One approach is to Apply all the Overlays, as I'm sure you've done, but if an app crashes, just go back into Substratum and reapply the specific app overlay. If this doesn't help (oh, and reboot) then remove, uninstall or disable that specific app overlay. I'd say I probably have a an 80% success rate on all Overlays working perfectly on a given theme. (I have maybe 15 apps over and above stock) You could also just not theme apps, and only system and the base stock apps. It will still be gorgeous...
Try these: Outline, Mono, (anything from DeJan or Kohlewrrk) Spectrum, Aligned)

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How has everybody's experience been with Substratum and apps? I love the theming capability, but keep on having certain apps force close. This is my first attempt with Substratum so I am sure I am doing something wrong, but not quite sure where to look. I have ensured that apps are all updated, and I choose the correct version on theme application, but I still end up with certain apps crashing. For example, I was using swift black (very nice btw) and Google photos and facebook messenger would force close. Is it best to only theme system stuff and leave apps alone? Or is swift black to blame? Or am I doing something wrong like I suspect?
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I don't use Facebook but I'm using Swift Black for photos.. You will get FC on apps when versions get updated before the theme is updated... I've seen them plenty while using Substratum on Samsung devices
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I don't use Facebook but I'm using Swift Black for photos.. You will get FC on apps when versions get updated before the theme is updated... I've seen them plenty while using Substratum on Samsung devices
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I wonder if that is what it is. I may have to try being more meticulous since I cannot fix it unless attached to a computer. Thank you for the reply. Have you noticed any issues with system theming?

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I wonder if that is what it is. I may have to try being more meticulous since I cannot fix it unless attached to a computer. Thank you for the reply. Have you noticed any issues with system theming?
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I’m using aospUI Black theme for system and it seems to be good just a few blacked out icons like in about phone but mainly good ..
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That's good to know. I wanted to give this a try.
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Anyone know a theme that centers clock that currently works

I want to be able to theme my phone without rooting, and sure, the 1.99 for Andromeda is no big deal. However, a lot of other themes (like Archangel's navbar app) are paid as well, so I'd be spending more in addition to paying first to be able to theme. Are there any other themes with transparent navbars, or just any other way so that I wouldn't be spending more on top of the first price?

Currently this no longer works with 8.1 Beta until the code is updated by the developer..

oryanh said:
So being overwhelmed with joy, I didn't spend much time searching to see if this was already stated... none-the-less, Substratum themes work great on Stock Oreo, rootless, with the help of Andromeda. Here's a guide if needed: https://forum.xda-developers.com/ap...top-clients-release-notes-t3668682?styleid=18
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...those "thin"navbar icons may slow burn-in. ...allegedly.
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Invisible icons like these will slow it down lol.

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Invisible icons like these will slow it down lol.
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Just so you guys realize, a nav bar without any pixels (total black) will actually leave a burn-in of that exact size. In order to limit that, you need to fill it with some color other than red (red pixels don't wear).
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Flux theme crashed system UI for me... which corrupted the OS. Had to do a factory reset to get it running again. Just FYI.

Substratum Navbar themes?

Wow, I don't remember the last time I created a thread, lol! Are there any OOS 9 substratum themes for the navbar themes? The one comprehensive theme I found doesn't quite have OOS 9 support and I just figured out why that is lol. Anyone following a particular developer that plans on releasing a navbar theme?

I'm just wondering for themes in general, I can't get mono/art to work at all.

zakkyzombie said:
I'm just wondering for themes in general, I can't get mono/art to work at all.
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The Swift series works from what I heard. I'm using Soft W Dark at the moment

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The Swift series works from what I heard. I'm using Soft W Dark at the moment
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I just tried swift black with the emrald accent and everything is navy blue and orange. What should the system theme be set to before the substatum, I think I messed up having it on dark already.

zakkyzombie said:
I just tried swift black with the emrald accent and everything is navy blue and orange. What should the system theme be set to before the substatum, I think I messed up having it on dark already.
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I had two themes activated like a idiot.

BIGWORM said:
Wow, I don't remember the last time I created a thread, lol! Are there any OOS 9 substratum themes for the navbar themes? The one comprehensive theme I found doesn't quite have OOS 9 support and I just figured out why that is lol. Anyone following a particular developer that plans on releasing a navbar theme?
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Nav bar apps in play store will theme navbar.

I tried the navbar apps, but the 6T memory management seems to keep killing the app. Super annoying with 8 god damn GB of RAM. I set the navbar to amoled black, and it eventually reverts back to default.

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I tried the navbar apps, but the 6T memory management seems to keep killing the app. Super annoying with 8 god damn GB of RAM. I set the navbar to amoled black, and it eventually reverts back to default.
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Tweak the battery & background settings (do not optimize or restrict),allow it to display over other apps & it should stay on.
Also,lock it in recents.

BIGWORM said:
Wow, I don't remember the last time I created a thread, lol! Are there any OOS 9 substratum themes for the navbar themes? The one comprehensive theme I found doesn't quite have OOS 9 support and I just figured out why that is lol. Anyone following a particular developer that plans on releasing a navbar theme?
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-6t/themes/custom-navbar-overlays-pie-version-t3894231

Dark UI for J5 (2016)?

Which ROMs have that? So far I've only seen it on DotOS. Any other?

Lauriso said:
Which ROMs have that? nSo far I've only seen it on DotOS. Any other?
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Havoc is great you have a choice of dark grey or black ui and is very stable.Accent colours are great too.

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Havoc is great you have a choice of dark grey or black ui and is very stable.Accent colours are great too.
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Thank you! Just checked the screenshots, and I noticed it also has those rounded pull-down menu buttons. What's the deal with that? I prefer icons that look like this. Is that an option on Havoc?

Lauriso said:
Thank you! Just checked the screenshots, and I noticed it also has those rounded pull-down menu buttons. What's the deal with that? I prefer icons that look like this. Is that an option on Havoc?
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Yeah I see what you mean the one you show is like lineage pull down menus.On havoc it's built to look like Pie icons although havoc is oreo.I think it looks smart especially neon green against black ui.I never tried changing them as I don't customize much but that aside Havoc with Twister kernel has the highest benchmark of any J5 2016 41k plus

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Yeah I see what you mean the one you show is like lineage pull down menus.On havoc it's built to look like Pie icons although havoc is oreo.I think it looks smart especially neon green against black ui.I never tried changing them as I don't customize much but that aside Havoc with Twister kernel has the highest benchmark of any J5 2016 41k plus
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Thanks. I do agree speed and stability are the most important factors at the end of the day. Although aesthetics come second . What I don't like with this design is how text is broken under the icons.

Lauriso said:
Thanks. I do agree speed and stability are the most important factors at the end of the day. Although aesthetics come second . What I don't like with this design is how text is broken under the icons.
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Other Rom that has black ui and icons like you want is AEX.I will PM you with link as it is not on xda.

Finsnevis said:
Other Rom that has black ui and icons like you want is AEX.I will PM you with link as it is not on xda.
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Thank you. Which one do you find faster?
I'm running DotOs Oreo right now, and it's sometimes slow, System UI crashes occasionally, and it has this super annoying lag when switching from wifi to mobile data.

Lauriso said:
Thank you. Which one do you find faster?
I'm running DotOs Oreo right now, and it's sometimes slow, System UI crashes occasionally, and it has this super annoying lag when switching from wifi to mobile data.
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Try bootleggers pie rom. Well maintained and really fast
And also loads of different dark themes for the ui

Lauriso said:
Thank you. Which one do you find faster?
I'm running DotOs Oreo right now, and it's sometimes slow, System UI crashes occasionally, and it has this super annoying lag when switching from wifi to mobile data.
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The fastest is Havoc followed by AEX extended.Dot is a nice rom.The key to these oreo roms running fast are the kernels and the two I use will benchmark 4000-5000+on antutu over stock kernels and you won't find them here on xda.
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What J510 model are you using is it FN?

garylawwd said:
Try bootleggers pie rom. Well maintained and really fast
And also loads of different dark themes for the ui
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Thanks. How does screen dimming work on Pie? I always found the darkest to be too bright at night, and on Oreo the official screen dimming apps didn't work anymore because they didn't have the permission to draw over Android UI like notifications. So now I'm using an Xposed module that does the trick but, as far as I know, there is no Xposed for Pie.