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BIG QUESTION:
I have not turned on Sprint service on the phone yet and was wondering if Sprint will detect if the phone has been rooted before I try to activate it and then not allow me to activate it?? I am basically wondering if I should wait to root the phone till after I activate it, because I don't want Sprint to ban it, but I also don't want all that bloatware on it either.
Background:
I have kept "feature/dumb phones" ever since I've had Sprint and I've been with the consecutively for more than 10 years with the same "plan" that gives me free 3G internet, but times are changing and while my plan is perfect for me (price and everything else balanced) I'm finally giving in to the data and bandwidth Gods. I find it a shame Sprint or other carriers don't provide a toolkit to customize their phones to how people want them and for the most part I just want my smartphone to be "barely smart" and mostly just a NICE phone with broadband convenience. I don't want to live so plugged in all the time, so a custom ROM seems right.
I have held out for a very long time on getting a smart phone. I don't change phones, but every 4-5 years. I bought a HTC EVO Shift 4G used with a slightly cracked screen (on the edge) and have refurbished it with a new screen and new circuit chip/ribbon cable and I've got it all working nicely now. I'm rockin an old Samsung Rant (slider) and honestly I think sliders are dying, but as long as I can use one I always will.
I have been teaching myself how to root my phone through various posts (the whole past week) on this web site and the only thing I've found that will temproot my HTC Evo Shift is Visionary+ and I had to install it manually since the PLAY market doesn't have it anymore. I'm working on getting through all the various instructions to permanent root it. Then I was gonna load JustWorksTechnology's ROM v2 and hopefully like it and use it bloatware free.
Lastly - I have temprooted the phone, and even then I don't see the option to remove the bloatware apps when I go to manage applications in the regular menu system. Do I find a bloatware/root uninstaller type app, once I'm temprooted, to remove this stuff if I wanted to stick to the stock ROM and just get the bloatware off it? or how else is removing stock apps from a stock ROM accomplished?
FYI - I've gotten rom manager/clockwordmod recovery on it, but I realized before trying that I can't even do a backup ROM to "start the ROM experimentation process" without having full permanent root privileges first.
Sorry if this was a little long. Just figured I'd introduce my highly technical Android and PC freedom forever - SELF. 1st post on this site. Yes, I actually did watch the NOOB video.
To get rid of bloatware you need a root explorer or something like Titanium Backup. Just be aware deleting it may cause issues when trying to get OTA updates.
And there's no way for Sprint to detect root.
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About detecting a root
Well if Sprint would be able to detect a root at all, then activating a phone or not, it would be detected.
You can either detect a root, or not detect a root.
And to answer your question; "Can I uninstall bloatware from my stock ROM?"
I was about to give a "no", but then I realized something. If you root and use your stock ROM, you can download Titanium Backup (app in the Playstore) and the app will let you delete bloatware. Only if rooted though, obviously.
Yes ofcourse, ROOT ALL
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Posting to root or not to root on XDA is like saying should we legalize weed at a weed distribution center, Anyways you are ONLY gaining functionality by having root and really not losing anything.
I love the responses. lol thanks everyone. Well, then I guess activating a ROOTED phone on Sprint shouldn't be an issue. Thats what I needed to know.
1. Well, then what remains is what ROM is best for my SHIFT. Anyone got experience with the JustWorksTechnology one that has very recently been updated? or recommendations of any certain ROM?
2. Do these ROMS include all the default menu system that comes on the phone or do they do away with that as well?
IE: I know the main purpose is of a ROM is to get rid of bloatware and gain performance and a few added features, but will I be missing any normal parts of the menu system that are normally there or do I get all that too with the Android OS?
3. Whats a good Android emulator for me to play around with ROMs before loading it to my phone?
You're activating it over the air right, not taking it into the store to have it added to your account? If you're doing it yourself or having them do it over the phone you're good, but if this is something you bought from someone else and have to get put on your line in-store then you don't want to root until after they have it in the system.
MissionImprobable said:
To get rid of bloatware you need a root explorer or something like Titanium Backup. Just be aware deleting it may cause issues when trying to get OTA updates.
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But, Titanium Backup (and the like) can't remove bloatware unless you are rooted right?
What type of OTA updates would cause issues? PRI, PRL, Firmware, etc.. ?
I figure you are just saying if it tries to update something that isn't there, there could be issues right?
What the issue could be with a used phone is a bad ESN.
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Cheers!
Congrats! Always fun learning something new. Personally I started off rooting with a previously water damaged HTC MyTouch 3G Slide. I eventually ended up with 3 altogether, and as these phones required repair I turned to the XDA community. I couldn't be happier with learning all the in's and out's of working with Android, the various phone producers and the different cell phone companies. So, Cheers! Wish you the best of luck.
Rooting before activation?
Hello,
I'm am going to take advantage of Sprint's Black Friday promotion to get an SG3 for my partner. He's not very technical but I'd prefer to root his phone so that he can take advantage of Titanium Backup. Do I need to activate the phone prior to rooting it or can I root it first? I know I have to turn it on and enable USB debugging mode. I want to say that when I got my E4GT, I had to activate it before doing anything on the phone.
Is there a non-root method for backup that will back up app data and not require a connection to the computer? I looked at the Ultimate Backup Tool, but it appears to require a USB connection to a computer to work. I like the simplicity of TiB.
Thanks
cajunlibra said:
Hello,
I'm am going to take advantage of Sprint's Black Friday promotion to get an SG3 for my partner. He's not very technical but I'd prefer to root his phone so that he can take advantage of Titanium Backup. Do I need to activate the phone prior to rooting it or can I root it first? I know I have to turn it on and enable USB debugging mode. I want to say that when I got my E4GT, I had to activate it before doing anything on the phone.
Is there a non-root method for backup that will back up app data and not require a connection to the computer? I looked at the Ultimate Backup Tool, but it appears to require a USB connection to a computer to work. I like the simplicity of TiB.
Thanks
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I ordered the phone and it should arrive next week. Do I have to activate the phone before rooting it? This would just be a rooted stock JB ROM. Giving him anything else will confuse the hell out of him. If you think not rooting it is better, what would be the best way to backup app data, etc? I haven't really found any non-rooted backup solutions that don't require connecting to a computer. Once rooted, will he have to ignore all OTA updates as well?
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MissionImprobable said:
To get rid of bloatware you need a root explorer or something like Titanium Backup. Just be aware deleting it may cause issues when trying to get OTA updates.
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there are ways to block OTA updates, thus preventing root issues. From when I was researching root for my Motorola Droid X2 last summer, if your phone receives an OTA update and you froze/removed system apps it can brick your phone.
Looking back on that, I question "brick". You can probably still SBF, although probably won't keep your data.
cajunlibra said:
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Originally Posted by cajunlibra
Hello,
I'm am going to take advantage of Sprint's Black Friday promotion to get an SG3 for my partner. He's not very technical but I'd prefer to root his phone so that he can take advantage of Titanium Backup. Do I need to activate the phone prior to rooting it or can I root it first? I know I have to turn it on and enable USB debugging mode. I want to say that when I got my E4GT, I had to activate it before doing anything on the phone.
Is there a non-root method for backup that will back up app data and not require a connection to the computer? I looked at the Ultimate Backup Tool, but it appears to require a USB connection to a computer to work. I like the simplicity of TiB.
Thanks
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I ordered the phone and it should arrive next week. Do I have to activate the phone before rooting it? This would just be a rooted stock JB ROM. Giving him anything else will confuse the hell out of him. If you think not rooting it is better, what would be the best way to backup app data, etc? I haven't really found any non-rooted backup solutions that don't require connecting to a computer. Once rooted, will he have to ignore all OTA updates as well?
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Can anyone help me with this? The phone is expected to arrive either Wed or Thurs and I'll be heading out of town to see him on Saturday.
I did the towelroot last night on my AT&T S4. Worked like a champ.
I installed SU Pro, Busybox Pro, and Titanium BU Pro afterwards. SU pro failed to update the binaries, so I don't know what that means. I uninstalled some of the known bloatware, but it gave ominous warnings as I uninstalled bloatware, etc. Although, the phone is working fine with less battery drain. No problems, whatsoever.
Is there a list of bloatware that can be safely uninstalled with the AT&T S4 KitKat ROM anywhere? There's so much crap on here, but I don't want to disable features that are maliciously tied to it. So far; this is awesome!
I had a popup from Samsung today, wanting me to update my security settings. It warned that certain software programs that I may have installed could compromise the security of my phone. I declined; fearing that it may disable my new root status. I don't know who to believe, but it's damn sure not AT&T or Samsung. I also got the "unlocked" symbol upon re-boot. Does that mean that I tripped KNOX? Will Triangle away clear that? The status shows: "Custom". Yet; the phone is working perfectly. I want to know if I should freeze or uninstall FOTA's. Seems like that's going to be a constant PITA.
On another note (no pun intended), I've downloaded certain programs that I thought / knew were useful - some paid / some free - that were memory / data / battery hogs, even though they didn't appear to be so in the EULA's. Is there any program or list of programs from the Play Store that are known pigs? How the hell do you know???
And, speaking of "note", has anyone used this on the Samsung Note 3? Ditto the above questions. I have a brand new one that's nothing but a $700.00 paperweight. It would kick ass if this worked on my Note 3!
I know that this is a new method, but has anyone experienced any negative side effects? Not me, so far. Any suggestions for add-ons for improvement of the performance of either device? This guy is going to get a nice donation this Friday!
A little help?
Thanks,
Jim
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2616221
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Any time I tether, Skype w/ the girlfriend, or even listen to music, my rooted Galaxy S 5 gets REALLY hot (sometimes to the point where the screen isn't able to be touched; it burns). Is this happening to anyone else, or does someone have a fix? I'm running ART and I'm rooted. Removed some bloatware and on a Deodexed Stock ROM. That's about it. Thanks in advance! :good:
tyfo9 said:
Any time I tether, Skype w/ the girlfriend, or even listen to music, my rooted Galaxy S 5 gets REALLY hot (sometimes to the point where the screen isn't able to be touched; it burns). Is this happening to anyone else, or does someone have a fix? I'm running ART and I'm rooted. Removed some bloatware and on a Deodexed Stock ROM. That's about it. Thanks in advance! :good:
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You should use battery stats to investigate which app or service is running. Then try to freeze/disable that app to see if the heat issues is solved.
Or you should reflash stock firmware, it it still too hot, it might be hardware issue
Is anyone else experiencing any performance issues after root? I'm trying to figure out exactly what is happening, so if anyone has suggestions please send them my way.
I haven't done anything crazy after root except install Super Su, freeze some apps with TiB, and remove some bloat (VZW stuff). Now every reboot from my device takes between 3 to 10 minutes to fully come up (using All-in-one toolbox). It used to take under 2 minutes. Scrolling between screens are slow as hell too.
S Health no longer works (I read the threads about fix, but doesn't work for me).
I had to uninstall Xposed framework and Wanam (too laggy) and disabled the Google Now Launcher.
Please, post up any helpful suggestions or anything I should try to improve my performance. Thanks!
BSquaredB2 said:
Is anyone else experiencing any performance issues after root? I'm trying to figure out exactly what is happening, so if anyone has suggestions please send them my way.
I haven't done anything crazy after root except install Super Su, freeze some apps with TiB, and remove some bloat (VZW stuff). Now every reboot from my device takes between 3 to 10 minutes to fully come up (using All-in-one toolbox). It used to take under 2 minutes. Scrolling between screens are slow as hell too.
S Health no longer works (I read the threads about fix, but doesn't work for me).
I had to uninstall Xposed framework and Wanam (too laggy) and disabled the Google Now Launcher.
Please, post up any helpful suggestions or anything I should try to improve my performance. Thanks!
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Did it start only after root or after installing the xposed framework? If it was the latter have you tried the fixes that have been posted?(disable secure storage, clear shealth cache/davlik cache.)
Rakuu said:
Did it start only after root or after installing the xposed framework? If it was the latter have you tried the fixes that have been posted?(disable secure storage, clear shealth cache/davlik cache.)
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Thanks for the reply Rakuu and yes, I have tried clearing both caches and secure storage is disabled. The degraded performance started after getting root, but I installed Xposed pretty quickly afterwards. It almost feels like stuff is running in the background, but I can't see any blatant process that could be causing it.
I was actually thinking that the S5 would fly after freezing or removing the bloat. Weird.
You can always Odin back to stock . I had Bluetooth problems and lag after root. I went back to stock and no more problems
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That's what I'm going to do I think. I hate my phone now.
EDIT: Noticed this morning that notifications are not working properly and something is also draining my battery. Phone died over night (77% battery) at 10:30pm and late for work today.
Question (probably stupid one): Is there a way to redo the root process or do a factory reset without loosing root to try and fix these issues? Otherwise, will be using Odin today. Thanks.
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BSquaredB2 said:
That's what I'm going to do I think. I hate my phone now.
EDIT: Noticed this morning that notifications are not working properly and something is also draining my battery. Phone died over night (77% battery) at 10:30pm and late for work today.
Question (probably stupid one): Is there a way to redo the root process or do a factory reset without loosing root to try and fix these issues? Otherwise, will be using Odin today. Thanks.
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I'm having similar issues, although not quite as bad as yours, after rooting, removing bloat and installing Xposed. I'll be ODIN'ing back to stock and re-rooting tonight.
If I were you, I would do the same: ODIN back to stock and then re-root. Rooting is now a 1 click deal so it's really not hard or time consuming at all. Then just make sure to take your time removing bloat and modifying to try and identify what exactly is causing the performance issues.
So my phone seems to be functioning normally now, but I'm not sure why. Battery is lasting all day, screens seem more responsive, notifications working, and I even got S Health to start working with fix (wasn't editing/saving the build.prop file correctly). I still need to re-install Xposed and Wanam, but I didn't want to push my good luck.
Can anyone guess why performance is better now (like night and day difference)?!
I noticed it with mine too. I put it back to stock and left it
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Same here. I Odin mine back to stock, then rerooted and froze a few apps but didn't touch Xposed or Wanam. It's running so much better now
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I had similar issues after setting up safestrap. It lagged, WiFi never wanted to connect or anything. Factory reset and just used towelroot and xposed and haven't had much issues at all. Some apps lag a bit but I figure its to be expected.
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Rooting itself does not change performance. Just clarifying because the subject line suggests that it does.
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Q&A for [ROM][AOSP] Google Edition S4/ Pure Nexus Edition[SAFESTRAP] Oct 4th.14
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Thanks Joe! And a question.
First off, I want to thank Joe for all his hard work! Ever since I upgraded from the S3 to the S4 I have been missing CM for their lack of bloatware more than anything else. Found this just over a week ago, installed it and haven't looked back at TouchWiz ever since!!! Everything works great but I have a small issue I am hoping someone can help me with, I have tried using GravityBox and a separate Xposed module to have a different picture on the lock screen but all I ever get is a black background. If anyone has any ideas I would love to hear them. Thanks again Joe for all your hard work and I am sad to hear you will be moving on. Was hoping to see some of that Lollipop goodness but I understand that hobbies can only take so much of your time. Good luck with your S5 work!
salpsuc said:
First off, I want to thank Joe for all his hard work! Ever since I upgraded from the S3 to the S4 I have been missing CM for their lack of bloatware more than anything else. Found this just over a week ago, installed it and haven't looked back at TouchWiz ever since!!! Everything works great but I have a small issue I am hoping someone can help me with, I have tried using GravityBox and a separate Xposed module to have a different picture on the lock screen but all I ever get is a black background. If anyone has any ideas I would love to hear them. Thanks again Joe for all your hard work and I am sad to hear you will be moving on. Was hoping to see some of that Lollipop goodness but I understand that hobbies can only take so much of your time. Good luck with your S5 work!
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Which rom are you using right now? I heard there's an issue with GB while on the gpe version. You might have to do a nandroid backup and try out pure nexus as others users reported GB working with no issue for them. And sometimes after applied a tweak, you must restart your phone to take affect.
salpsuc said:
First off, I want to thank Joe for all his hard work! Ever since I upgraded from the S3 to the S4 I have been missing CM for their lack of bloatware more than anything else. Found this just over a week ago, installed it and haven't looked back at TouchWiz ever since!!! Everything works great but I have a small issue I am hoping someone can help me with, I have tried using GravityBox and a separate Xposed module to have a different picture on the lock screen but all I ever get is a black background. If anyone has any ideas I would love to hear them. Thanks again Joe for all your hard work and I am sad to hear you will be moving on. Was hoping to see some of that Lollipop goodness but I understand that hobbies can only take so much of your time. Good luck with your S5 work!
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In gravity box switch background mode from overlay to underlay. That's what worked for me.
Google Wallet
Has anyone gotten Google Wallet to work? When i setup tap to pay, it says its not the default, but in phone setting, its thr only option. Anyone know how to fix it?
-Todd
How to Pure Nexus on SGH-1337M
Hello,
I have the SGH-I337M with bootloader I337MUMUAMDJ and with TWRP recovery, I'd like to install this Pure Nexus but I don't know what to chose when it comes to the modules.
Has anyone installed this or can anyone provide me some advice?
Thanks,
OMG I am LOVING the Pure Nexus rom on my S4!!!!! I just want to say that this was my first Android experience and was going to be my last until I stumbled upon xdadevelopers and this ROM a few days ago. I originally switched from an iPhone (which was hard enough) but when I got my brand new S4 I couldn't believe how slow and laggy it was, thanks to ATT apps and touchwiz, my phone with all these great specs could barely keep up with MMS messages and was lagging just scrolling thru my contact list!!??! :/
So anyways, I was ready to move back to the Apple side of the world before I decided to give this ROM a try and after installing the Pure Nexus rom all i can say is... WOW!!! I think i'm finally falling in love with this device 1.5 years later. This is exactly how the S4 should be stock from all carriers!! Pure, clean, fast and functional!! very impressed! Awesome work Joe!!
[ROM] Pure Nexus for SGH-I337M
Arilou said:
Hello,
I have the SGH-I337M with bootloader I337MUMUAMDJ and with TWRP recovery, I'd like to install this Pure Nexus but I don't know what to chose when it comes to the modules.
Has anyone installed this or can anyone provide me some advice?
Thanks,
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I believe I was in the wrong forums, I found GOOGLE EDITION 4.4.4 by Danvdh, Kryten2k35 & Ktoonsez and I believe it is meant for SGH-I337M so I'll give it a try.
Also, I did have one question, is there any work around yet for being able to connect this to a PC via USB and being able to transfer files? Again, I'm on ATT NC1 using the Pure Nexus Rom.
Any help would be appreciated, thanks!
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Also, I did have one question, is there any work around yet for being able to connect this to a PC via USB and being able to transfer files? Again, I'm on ATT NC1 using the Pure Nexus Rom.
Any help would be appreciated, thanks!
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No. Look into airdroid or the app in the OP. There will be no work around unless our bootloader gets unlocked, from what I understand it's a kernel problem and there's no real way to fix it without flashing a kernel
Rhymey said:
No. Look into airdroid or the app in the OP. There will be no work around unless our bootloader gets unlocked, from what I understand it's a kernel problem and there's no real way to fix it without flashing a kernel
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Airdroid is really good, thanks Rhymey!
I couldn't get Multi Mount SD-card lite to work though, even after checking off MTP fix... like it shows up in my file explorer as a drive but everytime I click it, it says "please insert disk"... not sure why?
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Airdroid is really good, thanks Rhymey!
I couldn't get Multi Mount SD-card lite to work though, even after checking off MTP fix... like it shows up in my file explorer as a drive but everytime I click it, it says "please insert disk"... not sure why?
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no idea there, i just use airdroid haha
I use the GPE ROM on safestrap nb1. Does anyone experience random "No Service" problem? It 2as working fine for few weeks and the next morning there is no service but my brother's phone(same att as me, stock) has se4vice. Thankfully i reflashed the rom and it came to normal. Will this recurr?
Adding tiles to drop down menu?
Greetings all,
Is there a way to add more tiles to the menu? Where the Brightness, Settings, Wifi, Network, Battery Life, Airplane Mode, Bluetooth and Location settings are? I'd like to have to customize this a bit if possible.
Thanks!
zodiacs123 said:
Greetings all,
Is there a way to add more tiles to the menu? Where the Brightness, Settings, Wifi, Network, Battery Life, Airplane Mode, Bluetooth and Location settings are? I'd like to have to customize this a bit if possible.
Thanks!
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You need to install Xposed Installer and GravityBox KK Modules.
Cannot see internal storage
Hello,
After flashing this ROM, I can't see all of my internal storage. Is there an easy fix for this?
Wifi difficulties on Google Play Edition ROMs for I337UCUFNI1
Hello, I followed the instructions for the SafeStrap installation of various Google Play Edition ROMs on my Samsung Galaxy S4, NI1 found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=53758259#post53758259
I successfully booted into working installations for all of them (Pure Nexus Edition, Google Edition for SafeStrap v1.1, & S4 Google Edition for SafeStrap. The phone could receive 4G LTE, but could not turn on Wifi. It became stuck on "Turning Wifi on..." & never progressed elsewhere. I performed all manner & combinations of hot reboots & full reboots, with no luck.
I also tried flashing different ATT modules.zip from NB1 & NC1, none of which changed anything.
In http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4-att/development/rom-google-edition-s4-t2837239/post55466895#post55466895
I also saw that in addition to hot/soft reboots, trying go enter/exit airplane mode may also get wifi back up again. This too failed. I'm utterly confused how hot reboots & this airplane mode fix worked for so many others.
Anyone else had luck with fixing wifi?
Requesting advice/help. I just flashed this rom and have experienced two data drops already within 30 minutes of me using the rom. What should I do to fix this?
also...just tried to install chrome from the play store. When I open chrome my phone immediately vibrates 3 times very quickly, and says "unfortunately chrome has stopped". Ive tried clearing cache/data and uninstalling, neither worked. Did I forget to do something when I flashed this rom? other weird stuff has been happening like I rebooted my phone one time and the wifi wouldn't even turn on and I had to reboot again to get it working.
Every time you cold boot, you need to do a hot reboot to get wifi working.
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