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First some backgound.
In preparation for a big event where I will be using my phone for web surfing a lot, I pick up the huge brick2600mah battery. It works well and last all day. I forgot my charger and had to charge the phone over USB and that only seems to charge the battery to 75%. But that is a different issue.
So when I get home, I put back in the stock battery so the phone will no longer be a brick in my picket any more. (The 2600mah battery will be used for events where I need the power)
But the stock battery is not lasting very long at all any more. The capacity seems to be down 50%. I left it in my truck once and came back to find it almost dead. It went from fully charged with the car charger to dead in 2 hours.
A week or so later, in the same spot, I knew I was going to be out of ear shot, so I left my fully charged phone, in airplane mode to save the battery. 4 hours later and it's dead like a door nail.
I have since done the same and the battery is low after 6 hours, but not dead. Something strange is going on. I have ran the phone till dead 3 times and fully charged it and that seemed to help, but it's still not happy. It also takes 8+ hours to charge.
A few hours ago, I managed to hard lock the phone, so I pop out the battery. The battery swollen. Not Sony like, but like something inside is really pressing hard against the case and wants to get out. Note I am talking about the stock HTC battery, not the brick.
My stock battery problems may be unrelated to the use of the 2600 brick battery, but I figure it's worth bringing up.
Anyone else seen this? Can I bug T-Mobile about getting a new battery?
Any suggestions next to bury it in a hole before it explodes and kills us all?
If the stock as really swollen, you'd better contact Tmo and get a replacement. I think it might got over heated when you left it in the truck. Did you put it on the dashboard? Was that a hot sunny day? Any temperature above 60 degrees Celsius can cause permanent damage to lithium-ion batteries. Crystals growing on one of the electrodes (can't remember which) can penetrate the insulation and touch the other side, causing a internal short. This will heat the liquids inside the battery and when the pressure rise beyond control...
You need a new battery, batteries can swell like that either from heat or too high current drained. Might be a defect in the battery from the start as well tho (short-circuit waiting to happen or something, who knows?)
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Anyone else seen this? Can I bug T-Mobile about getting a new battery?
Any suggestions next to bury it in a hole before it explodes and kills us all?
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Any lithium battery that experiences swelling should immediately be viewed as a potential hazard. At this point you cannot drop it off in a battery recycling drop-off point (and perish the thought of just tossing it in the trash). I recommend you take it to a T-Mo store and demand an exchange for a new battery. You'll also be relieved of the responsibility to deal with disposing of it properly.
Nice game of connecting the dots. I normally put my phone in the shade when left in my truck for several hours. But I miscalculated the position of the sun and when I checked back in a few hours, it was not in direct sunlight and hot. Not too hot to handle, but toasty. Only happened once, but I guess that sure could be the cause.
The battery is not hot now or bursting out of it's case, and I have been using it for 2 months so I don't think it will be an issue recycling it. Is a T-Mobile store just going to hand over a new battery to me?
Bonus, I now know why the battery in my GPS only lasted 2 months.
Even if it's not in direct sunlight, the temp inside of a car on a sunny day can easily go over 200 degrees F... in many cases going up to 300 degrees.
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Nice game of connecting the dots. I normally put my phone in the shade when left in my truck for several hours. But I miscalculated the position of the sun and when I checked back in a few hours, it was not in direct sunlight and hot. Not too hot to handle, but toasty. Only happened once, but I guess that sure could be the cause.
The battery is not hot now or bursting out of it's case, and I have been using it for 2 months so I don't think it will be an issue recycling it. Is a T-Mobile store just going to hand over a new battery to me?
Bonus, I now know why the battery in my GPS only lasted 2 months.
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As said 100% correctly by jashsu, your battery is basically hazardous. Keep it away from anything you want to stay alive (you, your property, your G1...) until you can get it to T-Mobile.
XDA does not condone this, but your best bet to get a new battery is to lie. If you tell them you left it in the sun, they're most likely not going to replace it. Play dumb and tell them nothing odd happened and you have no idea why it did it.
If you bought it from em and are still in contract with them, I'd be pretty shocked if they didn't replace it on the spot (even if you don't have warranty). Until then, do NOT use the battery, and be thankful that it didn't destroy your G1.
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Even if it's not in direct sunlight, the temp inside of a car on a sunny day can easily go over 200 degrees F... in many cases going up to 300 degrees.
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water boils at 200 degrees, there is no way a car goes to 300 degrees, it would explode....
Freedomcaller said:
water boils at 200 degrees, there is no way a car goes to 300 degrees, it would explode....
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lmao, i agree
http://www.mydogiscool.com/x_car_study.php
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Guess I got my numbers mixed up... according to a few websites, they can get up near 200 degrees.
http://www.kidsource.com/kidsource/content3/news3/temperatures.safety.all.html
I have been still using the phone. Bloated battery and on. It has not tried to kill me as of yet.
Today I went down to the t-mobile store and told the guy at the counter that my phone was only holding a charge for 5 hours at most. He suggested a battery swap and if that does not fix it, a phone swap. I handed him my puffed out battery, and he handed me a new, slimmer one. He never asked for my phone, my number, or nothing else. Once again I am reminded why I go with the only carrier that does not offer 3G service in my area. T-Mobile service rocks.
Yesterday morning I woke up to my vibrant battery, charged maybe 25% with an exclamation mark that looked like a road sign and a thermometer icon over the battery. The phone was very hot. I let the battery drained then charged it the night before. Is that normal was the battery over heating? should I exchange it for a new one? I got the phone on saturday and that was the first time i charged it.
Btw is anyones vibrant making creaking noises on the edges where it's painted metallic?
I personally have never heard of an overheating indicator on this device so this night be news to many. The issue of heat being generated from this device while charging has been brought up. For me it happens rarely now but when it does I pull the charger, let it cool down and then plug it back in.
Try charging it again and letting it drain again completely and see if you can get it to occur again. If so a battery replacement may be the only thing you need.
Sidenote: No my Vibrant doesn't make and creaking noises. I am just plagued with a loose volume rocker lol
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I've had the thermometer road sign come up before. I left my phone on the charger in the car. Realized I did it and went to get it and it was HOT! I put it by an AC vent and let it cool before using and haven't had any issue.
Are you using the charger that came with the phone?
Over heating when I first got the phone it would run super hot and even hotter when charging but never got that overheating symbol. However over a few days my phone barley gets hot anymore.
Creaking yes I am experiencing it as well as a loose volume button. It is annoying but it does not bother me that much.
Isn't that the under 30 % symbol . .
Last week my phone became super hot. I feel asleep while I was listening to music and while it was on the charger. When I woke up the phone was muy caliente, literally. It wouldn't turn on so I took out the battery to let it cool down but my battery was hot as well. I let it cool for a bit and put the battery in again and it still didn't work. So I plug it back into the charger and the battery charging icon booted up. I went into the OS and it said the battery was at 0%. Now it's working fine and never happened again. Weird though.
I called tmo and they said to go ahead and go get a new one from a retail location, since its still within the 14 buyers remorse period, so I did. But looking by the comments I think I didn't need to, but now I have no more creaking on the edges . Thanks guys for all your help and comments.
Ya. mine gave that symbol while charging the other day. I unplugged it and put it far away in case it was some defective battery or something. Nothing exploded and haven't see it since. Was mildly disturbing though.
wow, my phone doesn't over heat thankfully.
Glad you returned the phone.
Let us know if the new one does the same thing.
thank You.
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Ya. mine gave that symbol while charging the other day. I unplugged it and put it far away in case it was some defective battery or something. Nothing exploded and haven't see it since. Was mildly disturbing though.
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Haha the thought of it might exploding was in the back of my mind also.
I had that problem too once. My phone got too hot one morning and got that symbol. I had an app that told me what the temp of the battery and it was at 144 f. I went too look at what was causing it, it said display at 90%. I had too remove the battery, let it cool down and than charge it. Every time I make sure that brightness is at 0% and that no other app is running in the background. Because when I wake up that morning, my phone was on before I even touched it. I wad thinking an app was not letting it sleep and it was on the whole night.
Yes, I did have screen turn off at 1 minute.
144F = 60C.... You could BURN yourself touching that lmao! That's high even for my computer processor...at least its on the high side I mean.
No wonder an icon popped up. Most I've gotten it to is 54C and that was with GPS navigation, music, screen on, and the phone being in direct sunlight sitting in the car while navigating me. And touching THAT it started being really uncomfortable/burning-like. Can't imagine what 60 would be like lol.
Glad it actually WORKS at such a temperature though. And that it TELLS you "Cool me down please" lol.
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144F = 60C.... You could BURN yourself touching that lmao! That's high even for my computer processor...at least its on the high side I mean.
No wonder an icon popped up. Most I've gotten it to is 54C and that was with GPS navigation, music, screen on, and the phone being in direct sunlight sitting in the car while navigating me. And touching THAT it started being really uncomfortable/burning-like. Can't imagine what 60 would be like lol.
Glad it actually WORKS at such a temperature though. And that it TELLS you "Cool me down please" lol.
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My Overclocked core i7 at 4 ghz does not even hit 60C (idle) on 100% load yes it does.
60C for a phone is unbelievably hot.
Your core i7 is one HECK of a chip then. My friend's corei7 that I helped overclock with a gigantic copper air cooler for $80 hits 70C at 4.00Ghz under load. I told him if it ever hits 73C to clock it down since that's the limit.
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wow, my phone doesn't over heat thankfully.
Glad you returned the phone.
Let us know if the new one does the same thing.
thank You.
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I'm happy to say that I charged it before I went to bed. When I woke up, the phone was at 100% and cool to the touch.
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Your core i7 is one HECK of a chip then. My friend's corei7 that I helped overclock with a gigantic copper air cooler for $80 hits 70C at 4.00Ghz under load. I told him if it ever hits 73C to clock it down since that's the limit.
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I am new here but just wanted to know if anyone else has had issues with their Samsung Vibrant overheating???? I have had this phone for less than 2 months from my carrier and now it is dead and in for repair!! I went to go grab the phone and the screen did not come on; however, the buttons at the bottom were lit up so i tried the buttons on the side of the phone (on/off switch) still nothing. The top half of my phone (not where the battery is) got so hot that it burnt my hand. Then I noticed blue, red, green pixel stars on the screen (which by the way burnt the screen). I don't know if it is a faulty battery/charger? Or what. When I spoke to my carrier, they told me that this is the first they have heard about anything like my case. It has been in the shop for more than 1 month now and I am getting very annoyed..as they gave me a loaner Galaxy to use and I HATE IT!!! Anyone have any suggestions??? I did not game on this phone or anything...
Thanks so much,
Pam
Happened to an HTC Aria I had, and had to get a new replacement to AT&T. The digitizer went (burnt?) out, and since it's a touchscreen only phone it became unusable because I couldn't really do anything on it.
What kind of charger did you use? Especially car charger...
I have never had it on with a car charger. I have heard that one should put the phone on plane mode as the green charge battery light will not come on. From what I hear they are replacing the screen (which they have no choice as it is burnt) as well as the board. Why is it taking soooooooooooo long? I usually have it on WiFi all the time; however, this should not do anything. It makes me mad....I have waited for this phone to come out and when I got it, I thought there was no other...until this happened. I did notice it acting kinda slow and I realize some phones do get warm...but should NEVER get hot enough to burn one's hand!!!!
I'm guessing you didn't OC the phone or anything.
Yea, I keep mine on WiFi basically 80% of the time, but the phone (in stock form) turns that off when the phone sleeps. I have brightness set to auto.
I notice my phone gets very hot when I have it on a car charger, and I'm using a charger from T-Mobile. It doesn't happen when I have it charging from an outlet in the wall through a USB Extended cable.
That's the only time I notice my phone getting hot.
Also, using the phone on WiFi tends to keep the phone cooler than using it on a data connection - I've noticed that for a few phones I've owned.
The overheating issue was also a big problem with HTC HD2s (except those phones would just go into a reboot loop/lock up, instead of burning up ).
No I did not overcharge the phone; however, I do notice that the battery life is almost nil on this phone. Full charge does not last 2 long on the phone and I only use it basically to text my daughters...and a little texam holden lol. But I have noticed with this galaxy (the loaner phone) the battery stays good for 2 - 3 days! Although I really hate this phone so I do not use that much! How would they be able to tell if it is the battery?? From what they have told me, they are only replacing the screen and the board....Well something made it go hot!! Battery or charger...When I took the phone back to Aliant I was going to give them everything including the charger, but they just sent it away with the battery. How do they know it was not the charger?? Getting very frustrated....I have always owned a Samsung phone and have never had any issues until this phone....makes me want to go back....but I do like the Vibrant when it was working....esp the screen.....
Only things I've ever come across that have made a Vibrant overheat is using cheap non-oem extended batteries, overclocking the CPU / GPU or leaving it a car in a 120+ climate then expecting to make heavy of use it without allowing it to cool down first.
I have never replaced the battery...it is brand new (less than 2 months old)....Thank god I had insurance on it... One would think that it would not take this long to come back from being fixed!!! Have never left in car....don't have to worry about the 120 degrees we are INTO snow now!! LOL... I am disappointed with Samsung. How can they tell what made it go that way?? Battery? Home Charger? They should replace the battery in my opinion as well!!
How often does the Vibrant overheat? Is this a common issue?
not sure.....it only took one time for me that fried the phone...Now they are supposedly replacing the screenh (they have to it burnt an image on it) as well as the board.
I have never heard of this happening with the vibrant. They claim they have not heard of this issue??!! I cannot believe this. I would like to know what caused this. I thought perhaps it was the WiFi being on all the time, but I do not think this is why. I do not game on it....I do not overcharge it (only charge it via home charger when it shows battery getting low - which might i add says it is almost drained at mid day??!)
Seriously, I have never heard of a phone overheating. I mean, sure they get hot when talking on it, but never overheat.
my phone has gotten really hot gaming on it while charging (stock charger and moto cliq charger), but it's never died or even decreased performance from it. even when oc'd.
Mine has gotten warm twice: once, I left Google Maps w/ GPS open when I put the phone in my pocket, and didn't realize it until I felt the heat in my pocket; the other time, I left ScummVM running (which apparently doesn't suspend properly), draining my battery over about two hours, again in my pocket.
Both times the phone was only warm to the touch. Nothing like you've described.
So do you have T-Mobile or Bell? If you have Bell (sounds like you do, I'm 99% positive) this is limited to the Bell i9000m Vibrant and not the T-Mobile T959 Vibrant.
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So do you have T-Mobile or Bell? If you have Bell (sounds like you do, I'm 99% positive) this is limited to the Bell i9000m Vibrant and not the T-Mobile T959 Vibrant.
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There are threas on T-Mobile's official Vibrant forum about this issue.
My vibrant gets very very hot from time to time. I keep it on a usb hooked up to my computer at work with wifi on all day. Sometimes it will get super hot and not want to charge. I restart the phone and it usually fixes the problem. But its not the battery that gets hot, its for sure the yup part of the phone.
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Sounds to me like you had a bad battery...this can cause the battery to overheat while charging. I work in construction and when the batteries on my power tools fail you can cook an egg on them when they are charging.
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my phone goes to 120plus with me playing while charging. Why don't they just replace thw phone?
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Mine has gotten warm twice: once, I left Google Maps w/ GPS open when I put the phone in my pocket, and didn't realize it until I felt the heat in my pocket; the other time, I left ScummVM running (which apparently doesn't suspend properly), draining my battery over about two hours, again in my pocket.
Both times the phone was only warm to the touch. Nothing like you've described.
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OMG there is a ScummVM emu!!!! BRBBRBRBRBRBRBRB.....
Did u happen to have anytype of case on your vibrant. I notuced when I charge my phone with the case on it got prety hot. Not to where it would burn my hand, but hotter than I really thought my phone should be while charging. So I take the case off when I put it on the charger.
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Woke up this morning and phone was off and very very hot, screen was actually burning to touch and the battery the same. Just managing to get it to come on now by the looks of it. Anyone had this? always thought my battery could be the cause of random reboots as its always hot when the phone does it and goes on reboot cycle until i saw its a common type of hardware fault!
ok finally got it to boot turns out it has charged a bit its 61% wouldnt come on for ages though!
hmm...
Sounds like what happened to my old nokia 6280 many many years ago...
Might be a battery defect, I sent mine for servicing the last time and they said the battery was nearing the end of its usuable life lol.
its a replacement about 3 months ago - the phone! been stuck constant reooting for ages now, diong it now every 2min struggling to get stuff back on the phone after the update
Well there is not much other to do than send it back to repair.
I wouldn't mess around with it too much if i were you. When electronics fail to protect your lithium battery from overcharging or over-discharging, the battery will get very hot. At some point the battery can even get uncontrollably hot and explode. If it sometimes gets so hot then there is something wrong with the electronics to prevent this and you should send it back to a repair center.
Happened to me to but it was my fault left my phone charging under my pillow.
I think is a problem with the charger mine had the same issue like 3 times but we aware it hurted my screen.... It was not responding as good as before so i took it to my career and have a replacement of all... Phone, Battery and Charger...
Take care of it or you'll have the same problem as i did...
Jim
I had the same thing happen a few months ago and the phone ended up not booting anymore a couple of weeks later. Had it replaced and new x10 has been running great since then.
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Yeah I've this issue before usually I manage to cool it down before it huts the phone, I don't know why this happends but it occours randomly. Any ideas??
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all of you who are having issues it could be either:
1.Charger base(where you connect your USB in) has gone bad
2.Battery Defective(try getting access to another battery)
3.Software needs to be reflashed or there could be bad apps that uses power
4.Defective hardware and needs to be turned in for Warranty which im sure 100% of everyone on this forum has
I don't have warranty on my x10, it was a giveway present from someone who got it by a giveaway present from someone who works for SE.
So it's not 100%
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I don't have warranty on my x10, it was a giveway present from someone who got it by a giveaway present from someone who works for SE.
So it's not 100%
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regardless though, shouldnt there be a warranty on it?
This happened to my X10i too.
It would charge for hours and gain like 1% and get extremely hot.
I let the battery go flat, then I took out the battery and waited for a few hours.
When I charged it afterwards, it worked fine afterwards, haven't had any other problems with it. =)
Yeah, I've had the same problem a time or two as well. I would send mine in for repair under warranty, but alas, my Digitizer is cracked. So they would probably deny me.
Dont think they would deny it they just wouldnt fux the digitizer. if there is a problem with their product which i think there is alot of hardware issues in a large number of x10s out there [rebooting / overheating constant like mine] they are legally going to have to replace/repair this
Well, its sworth a shot then I guess, Im having a TON of different hardware problems with this phone. Worst they can say is no, right?
Sorry to go off topic.
Often, while charging, if I access any apps, my phone goes to reboot cycle. Have also noticed that the battery gets hotter than usual during those times. Its a way too nagging problem in an otherwise good phone.
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Seems like when,i use my phone between 20 30 min intervals it gets real hot in the back. I have a case and the whole case gets hot.
Today while listening to pandora for 45 mins while cutting my hair it just turned off. Phone was hot....
Anyone else with this issue??
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I don't have a case but I ran pandora for 2 and half hours today and the back was still cool to the touch.
I haven't had any issues with this. Used the sirius/xm app for about 2 hours and it wasn't even warm.
mine actually gets really hot as well. i used google navigation for about 30 minutes today and the back got really hot, mostly at the bottom half of the phone. i have a incipio feather case and the case got warm as well. i haven't had the overheating affect any performance issues though but am a little worried that it's getting so hot. are you going to bring yours in to have it looked at?
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mine actually gets really hot as well. i used google navigation for about 30 minutes today and the back got really hot, mostly at the bottom half of the phone. i have a incipio feather case and the case got warm as well. i haven't had the overheating affect any performance issues though but am a little worried that it's getting so hot. are you going to bring yours in to have it looked at?
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Same here, used navigation for about 20 minutes and the phone was very warm.
im not sure what to make of this. the first day i had the phone, i had a missed call, and the phone got pretty warm in my pocket.?!?!?! later, talking on the phone and it got to be almost HOT.
yesterday i had a couple of 20 minute browsing sessions and the phone just got good and warm. but it dosnt seem to effect permormance at all, and the battery isnt draining too fast or anything, so im not worried about mine at this point.
nope mine is always cool as a cucumber
Mine gets warm/gentle hot when browsing or doing any stuff that needs data transfer over 3G/H.
Have a movie going on (from SD) for ~2 hours now, and it is still cool.
Having come from the N1 where this was a constant issue I can tell you it is due to placement of parts. The CPU sits immediately behind the lower part of the phone. Heavy CPU use will result in a hot phone.
Also keeping it in your pocket will heat it up too. Body heat and background processes that use the CPU.
It is only and issue if you are very hot for a long time. Can result in reboots and crashing.
The back of mine did get rather warm in the car after using Nav for ~30 minutes, however this doesn't seem any different than what my old Tilt did and is normal for smart phones.
If your phone does actually get hot enough to power itself off, then I'm guessing either you've got it in a very poor case (or warm pocket with no ventilation), or it's defective.
Pandora alone shouldn't be enough to make the phone hot. I'd suggest try running it with the phone sitting on a table and no case. If it still gets hot after 20 minutes, exchange it. If it doesn't, get a new case.
I also have the feather incipio case. It got so hot it crashed.... Nice case but worried if it keeps getting hot it may, cause, life of phone to, be a lot shorter!!!
If it happens again I'm going to take it to ATT.
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My Atrix that I exchanged today was getting warm alot also. Shoot the one I'm using now is warm. I figured the phone just has that problem. I have a friend who complain of theirs getting hot. Neither of us have experienced the shut down issue though. And I get it just from browsing the web!! I would have expected Motorola to discover this temperature problem during testing. They probably decided "it's not extreme, so we'll still sale a couple million." Heck Apple HAS BIGGER issues with signal problem & they are still selling like Red Lobster's biscuits.
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My Atrix that I exchanged today was getting warm alot also. Shoot the one I'm using now is warm. I figured the phone just has that problem. I have a friend who complain of theirs getting hot. Neither of us have experienced the shut down issue though. And I get it just from browsing the web!! I would have expected Motorola to discover this temperature problem during testing. They probably decided "it's not extreme, so we'll still sale a couple million." Heck Apple HAS BIGGER issues with signal problem & they are still selling like Red Lobster's biscuits.
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Same here, the bottom of my phone gets warm from just browsing, which I'm not used to at all. However, it's good to know that I'm not the only one, although I wish none of us experienced this.
I seems when im only using edge 3g or hsdpa it gets hot ....not when using wifi
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same here. whenever browsing over data it is getting really hot.
INFUSE overheating HELP
So I got a replacement infuse and still I have the same problem temperature on it gets really hot. I haven't let it to hot mainly because I don't have a case or cover on it.... it only gets that hot when using it while charging and its not the battery. The hottest points are the SIM card and top right corner on the back....any help would be appreciated
yea im overclocked soooo i kinda expect some heat +(wile useing my custom webtop it gets real warm and sometimes the setcpu -cpu temp alarm goes off too but i havent had it ever reboot on its own i generaly just pull the batt for a few min and its all good
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my atrix gets a lil warm and i do have a case i listen to pandora and internet radio all the time for well over two hours! my mom has an atrix also and she has a otter defender and ours gets about the same temp with heavy use with no issues at all
@1ghz and undervolted I'm sitting at 140 degrees running gps
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Same thing... I am using Faux's 2.0 kernel. Using Antutu CPU Master Free for now to adjust speeds. I've seen the temp @ 41C a couple of times. I have the profile set to powersave with a min of 216 and max of 1300.
I have not had any shutdown issues but, I do have an issue with my widgets disappearing on me randomly.