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Camera quality is bad

So I've been taking a few pictures on my phone, and I have noticed that the Galaxy S2 is very very inconsistent in taking quality photos. I can have a great clear shot of some mid-ranged photos, but far distanced photos have horrible quality. I understand if you take pictures of something really far, obviously it won't be that good, but when I compared to my friends iPhone 4, the 8MP is barely on par with it. Do any of you know what might be the problem? I've tried using auto focus and manual focus, but it is always blurry.

It seems to be an hardware problem. I find the sgsw camera pretty good, especially the dynamic range. My only concern is with indoor pictures, a bit noisy and cold.

Can you upload and provide some shots samples?
Everything on auto? It might help to know which ROM/mod you are using.
I'm not an expert in mobile digital photography but if I can see your blurry distant shots it might be able to tell if I get better result with my device.

The S2 tends to like low shutter speeds (1/4s - 1/20s) ALL the frigging time.
It will select this slow shutter speed even when it should raise the ISO and get a faster shutter speed.
This is why the S2 often takes blurry photos, because even 1/15 or 1/19sec is not fast enough to take a photo sharply with a 28mm lens (effectively what the S2 is).
The slowest shutter speed the S2 should use is 1/30sec to ensure the photos aren't blurred by *camera* vibration/shake. (But, if the *subject* is moving, like a child, then 1/60s or 1/80s are the minimum that are needed to freeze the subject).
This is why the photos are so often blurry as soon as the light gets slightly low - cloud day, in shade, etc. I don't have a solution sorry!
Proof: check the EXIF data of the blurry photos you take. Most will have a stupidly low ISO (like ISO25, ISO50) and a stupid low shutter speed.

Yes I have noticed that the shutter speeds are quite low...now I'm assured that its not just me
I can take SOME really good photos, but almost every other pictures are very blurry even at a close distance.
Everything is on default, except I have enabled Anti-Shake or something like that, and I am using CheckROM 3.1.1 (KJ3)
The first 2 are taken at a considerably good range, with no zoom or any effects, just a normal shot, but then the outcome was very weird.
The last one was a closer shot, but in a darker area, and that one was a little bit more clear

I don't want to be captain obvious, and I am sure you are a better photographer than me but can you check if the focus mode is set to macro if it is then change to auto focus.
Since this happened to me once i set to macro and forgot and all the photos were blurry.
I just felt that might be the reason.

I am guessing that what you're doing is pressing on the "Capture" button without focusing on the subject yet?
I do find that it's best to press to focus on the area you want to take and then press the main capture button to capture it. It seems like the focus hasn't focused on what you want to take.
It's quite annoying because then that means I have to press in the middle and then press the capture button to take a decent shot. I wish I could just hold down the capture button to focus, then release to shoot.. which works sometimes but not as good as what I said above.

Here you have 2 images, far and close focus. You can see the great quality of the camera. Take a look at the focus settings: better in auto mode if you don't want to manage it in all photos. Maybe you have some problem in the camera hardware... so warranty is the best option here.

There are at least 2 types of camera modules in SGS II.
Check this:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1098834
Mine also had this problem (blury at far objects), the soultion is set the metering to matrix in camera menu.It works for me.

iocar said:
Yes I have noticed that the shutter speeds are quite low...now I'm assured that its not just me
I can take SOME really good photos, but almost every other pictures are very blurry even at a close distance.
Everything is on default, except I have enabled Anti-Shake or something like that, and I am using CheckROM 3.1.1 (KJ3)
The first 2 are taken at a considerably good range, with no zoom or any effects, just a normal shot, but then the outcome was very weird.
The last one was a closer shot, but in a darker area, and that one was a little bit more clear
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are you using macro mode to take farer objects ?
thats why it is more clear when you are taking photo of the specimen (3rd one)
or the camera firmware is broken , if not ,it may be the hardware issue

I always touch the place where I want to focus, and that is why I am confused
Yes I was using Macro, but only because it had the best quality...Auto-Focus doesn't really help as it never focus properly, as in when I press the "Capture" button, most of the time it goes to red and doesn't turn green. I am holding the phone still and don't know why
The camera firmware is also up to date
What I don't get is that my old HTC Desire can take photos that are much more crisp than my Galaxy S2

Try resetting the camera settings see if that works,try a third party HDR camera app or Camera 360,if quility is still bad in the 3rd party app then it could be a hardware fault
Sichroteph said:
My only concern is with indoor pictures, a bit noisy and cold.
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auto contrast I find helps take better indoors

Cant say I've had any problems with the camera. Love the macro focussing.

It seems obvious that your device doesn't behave like it should and have focus problems. I can have the exact same results with macro mode activated (and not shooting close objects)
I would suggest :
- trying another camera app (like TheiPhoneKiller suggested)
- trying a totally stock rom
- trying a rom like CM7 or MIUI
If you still got totally unfocused shots, you may very well have an faulty device. Try to get a replacement unit if you can.
(And did you try the fix kisstom suggested?)

Well... my shots is certainly much more grainy, since i upgraded to 2.3.5 - even if shot outside in bright sunshine. And many of the pictures is becoming more yellow than before - especially when using the flash-LED, so something has happened when i upgraded... this is one of my big complaints about the new upgrade. My old W800i 2Mpx beats the SGS2 in pure quality of the pictures now (but that was also, and still is, a VERY good camera for a phone)...
When comparing the newest pictures to some of the old pictures i have shot in the past, it's clear to me that i have a loss of quality since upgrading. How do i check manually, if there's a new camera-software version available - as i can't seem to find any in the Samsung apps, even if i have read somewhere that there's a newer one, comparing to my version of the camera-software???
But a least it's still not as crappy as my old HTC's camera - THAT was lousy...

Frankly speaking, 'Camera quality is bad' makes no sense. If you've said it's bad than this or that then I'd take it. Have used all the SE phones as I loved their image quality and I'll say after playing with the Satio, C905 I don't think this one would beat them. We are talking about a small image sensor here. So the main job is how good the post image processing is, some part still depends on the lens though.
The thing is I didn't buy this one for camera, believe me or not, after purchase, that is almost six months now, I've shot barely 10 pics with it. For normal usage and as a professional can't go without 350D, and for short tours and holidays I still shoot with my C905 , but not GSII.
But still this Camera is capable of taking some great pics, posting some of them here, after seeing them you certainly can't say Camera quality is bad.
The very bests I've found,

-> ithehappy
Well - i used to have that image quality too, but it has become somewhat impossible to shot such good pictures, since upgrading... i suspect that it's because my camera firmware still is TBEC28 (but of course not sure of it)

iocar said:
I always touch the place where I want to focus, and that is why I am confused
Yes I was using Macro, but only because it had the best quality...Auto-Focus doesn't really help as it never focus properly, as in when I press the "Capture" button, most of the time it goes to red and doesn't turn green. I am holding the phone still and don't know why
The camera firmware is also up to date
What I don't get is that my old HTC Desire can take photos that are much more crisp than my Galaxy S2
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Confused!!! Are you saying that you always have macro focus on?
If so then turn it off. My cousin complained about the exact same thing, blurry and red box when trying to focus. Went through his settings, turned macro off and everything was good again.
Also auto focus will not work correctly if macro is on, unless your taking really close range pics, which is what macro focus is for.
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well i am on 2.3.5 Images are really Perfect for me am seriously impressed the Quality iam on kI8 here is one example
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/708/20111118205552.jpg

iocar said:
Yes I was using Macro, but only because it had the best quality
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That's exactly why your pictures are blurry at a distance.
Macro focus is for close-up pictures, use auto focus for longer distances

One Plus X Camera Samples

Here are some one plus x camera samples, I hope this thread helps others to get an idea about one plus x camera.
Video Samples of One Plus X Camera by some youtuber.
Front Camera - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMyjawiSG4s
Rear Camera - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAvlGPNpxvw

TL;DR, it looks like the X will probably have a decent daylight camera that produces somewhat soft & noisy images in low light, with quick focus & decent colors but a so-so AOSP-ish camera app.
GSM Arena's hands-on review is one of the few with any camera samples or evaluation.
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The image quality can vaguely be described as good. We could only test it indoors in poor lighting conditions. Considering the odds were stacked against it, we'd say the camera fared well and despite the lighting, the images are usable with good amount of detail and acceptable amount of noise. We'd like to test it more thoroughly in different lighting conditions but from our brief experience with it we are willing to bet the overall image quality is going to be pretty good.
The camera speed is also impressive. The camera launches and shoots quickly. The phase detection autofocus occasionally falters but is still quick even in low light.
The camera software is similar to the one on the OnePlus 2, which means it's really not very good. It follows the Google Camera app too closely, which honestly is far from user-friendly. There aren't many shooting options available and the app makes you feel like a novice who has just figured out how to take a picture. Those who want more control are bound to be left frustrated.
The camera app doesn't have any quick launch gesture by default but you can assign any of the capacitive buttons below the display to launch the camera by double tapping, but this only works if the phone is unlocked.
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Add this to the evaluation:
engadget.com said:
An immediate worry is the OnePlus X's camera -- the 13-megapixel sensor is supposed to be a highlight of the device, but I wasn't all that impressed. On the 28th floor of a tower in central London, the photos it spat out looked a little soft and noisy. With large windows on either side, the room wasn't exactly dark or dingy, so low-light performance could be an issue.
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I snapped a few photos and images looked sharp with accurate colors. The camera also operated quickly, with touch focus that adjusted smoothly. Its interface is kept to a minimum with few on-screen editing options.
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One Plus X Quick Camera Overview
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87CxoFJBq2o

Looks good to me but then im not a photografer

I have a z3 compact and I consider the X. Even though the z3c is, by many, appreciated for it's camera, for me, it's terrible. Mainly because of the freaking long time it takes to snap a photo (impossible to get a good photo of my kid). So I'd take a downgrade in "perfect conditions" for a faster camera that's reliable of snapping usable pics.
What do you reckon?

Adebisi666 said:
I have a z3 compact and I consider the X. Even though the z3c is, by many, appreciated for it's camera, for me, it's terrible. Mainly because of the freaking long time it takes to snap a photo (impossible to get a good photo of my kid). So I'd take a downgrade in "perfect conditions" for a faster camera that's reliable of snapping usable pics.
What do you reckon?
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Hard to say. At this point we have very little information on the camera since no full reviews have been published.

Adebisi666 said:
I have a z3 compact and I consider the X. Even though the z3c is, by many, appreciated for it's camera, for me, it's terrible. Mainly because of the freaking long time it takes to snap a photo (impossible to get a good photo of my kid). So I'd take a downgrade in "perfect conditions" for a faster camera that's reliable of snapping usable pics.
What do you reckon?
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Agreed. Who knows, with a bit of editing, the photos might turn out to be pretty good. My old HTC One V had only a 5mp camera, but it was really fast. In good lighting and with a little tweaking, it managed to take some surprisingly good photos. I think the OnePlus X camera will do just fine, especially for the price.
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Here are mine ! I'm not a photographer at all. I'm an amateur, i even was a little bit shaky on the flower picture
Front camera

PoloB49 said:
Here are mine ! I'm not a photographer at all. I'm an amateur, i even was a little bit shaky on the flower picture
Front camera
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Can you post some low light / night photos?
Thank you so much

qwerty123321 said:
Can you post some low light / night photos?
Thank you so much
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It would be great if you wouldn't quote his entire post including the pictures.

Here's a look at the OnePlus X's camera:
OnePlus X camera samples: What does $250 get you? | technobuffalo.com

qwerty123321 said:
Can you post some low light / night photos?
Thank you so much
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It's night outside, i used night mode with the app ProShot.
In normal mode :

The images look quite good. I wasn't expecting them to be that good.
How is the camera performing in taking quick snapshots? That will be my primary use for the camera.
Thanks mate

I found this interesting comparison with the camera on the Galaxy S6 Edge+.
ubergizmo.com said:
While the S6-series win if images are viewed in detail on a computer (no contest), they look quite similar on a phone screen or on Social Media. This means that for most usages (FB, Instagram, email, text…) the OnePlus X photo quality is quite comparable to the best out there. It is only when you inspect the photos from up close, that the higher resolution of high-end phones truly shows the difference:
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Source: ubergizmo.com

Please delete

I can't find the Option in the camera APP to change the storage mode from pictures to SD card. Anybody know that?

criz.89 said:
I can't find the Option in the camera APP to change the storage mode from pictures to SD card. Anybody know that?
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Exactly my question.

Why do low light shots have so much noise in them? My Nexus 5 has that too, I'm sure there is a technical term for it; what does one look out for when buying a camera to avoid that? Is there a way to clean it up with software?

Naatan said:
Why do low light shots have so much noise in them? My Nexus 5 has that too, I'm sure there is a technical term for it; what does one look out for when buying a camera to avoid that? Is there a way to clean it up with software?
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The main problems are a small sensor (collects less light) and sub-par lensing giving a high f-stop (lets in less light). The software has to compensate by increasing ISO (sensitivity of the image sensor), and that's what causes the noise. It can't be photoshopped out completely, and trying will always cause a loss of image detail.
What to look for: A camera with a large sensor, large pixels, low f-stop and image stabilization.

Photo quality

Say "cheese", then rate this thread to express how photos taken with the Moto Z2 Force come out. A higher rating indicates that photos offer rich color (without over-saturating), sharp detail (with all subjects in-focus), and appropriate exposure (with even lighting).
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

So far I'm pretty pissed off with the camera. I recently tested the LG G6, Huawei Mate 9, OnePlus 5, and now the Moto Z2 Force which I was hoping would be my dream phone. I owned the Z Force and so far and a bit disappointed. The Camera seems to have potential but the software is terrible, at least on my specific device. The camera is plagued with shutter lag which really seems to take a toll on picture quality. Pro mode is what really upset me with only having the option of 1/4 for shutter speed as the longest time for exposure. I have taken a great deal of pictures to compare with the phones listed above, so far the Huawei Mate 9 has had the best camera in my opinion. Obviously, this is totally objective as views will change per individual. I am by no means a photography expert, but I am always in search of a great camera in a smartphone. The biggest reason for my angry toward the quality of the Z2F camera is the retail cost of the phone, I really thought this would be a camera I would have loved. It seems like I may wait to see how the Essentials Phone turns out and am very curious about the Nokia 8, both in terms of camera. To date I think the use of a dual camera, one being monochrome and the other RGB, is the best implementation. Please let me know if the inconsistent shutter I'm facing is just a problem with my unit or if other's share it as well. I really had my heart/mind set on this phone being able to go toe to toe with others in its price range. Side note, the LG G6 wide angle lens was great for taking pictures, I was surprised that I liked the secondary camera being a wide angle lens as it allowed for unique perspective. I let go of the LG G6 because my father broke his phone and really thought the Z2F would be the phone of my dreams.
Update: Twist for camera sometimes hangs and after some time force closes. This has also happened on 2 occasions when opening camera app, viewfinder is black followed by hang and crash.

Ksehwail said:
So far I'm pretty pissed off with the camera. I recently tested the LG G6, Huawei Mate 9, OnePlus 5, and now the Moto Z2 Force which I was hoping would be my dream phone. I owned the Z Force and so far and a bit disappointed. The Camera seems to have potential but the software is terrible, at least on my specific device. The camera is plagued with shutter lag which really seems to take a toll on picture quality. Pro mode is what really upset me with only having the option of 1/4 for shutter speed as the longest time for exposure. I have taken a great deal of pictures to compare with the phones listed above, so far the Huawei Mate 9 has had the best camera in my opinion. Obviously, this is totally objective as views will change per individual. I am by no means a photography expert, but I am always in search of a great camera in a smartphone. The biggest reason for my angry toward the quality of the Z2F camera is the retail cost of the phone, I really thought this would be a camera I would have loved. It seems like I may wait to see how the Essentials Phone turns out and am very curious about the Nokia 8, both in terms of camera. To date I think the use of a dual camera, one being monochrome and the other RGB, is the best implementation. Please let me know if the inconsistent shutter I'm facing is just a problem with my unit or if other's share it as well. I really had my heart/mind set on this phone being able to go toe to toe with others in its price range. Side note, the LG G6 wide angle lens was great for taking pictures, I was surprised that I liked the secondary camera being a wide angle lens as it allowed for unique perspective. I let go of the LG G6 because my father broke his phone and really thought the Z2F would be the phone of my dreams.
Update: Twist for camera sometimes hangs and after some time force closes. This has also happened on 2 occasions when opening camera app, viewfinder is black followed by hang and crash.
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Camera shutter speed seems to be a stock app issue mostly. I have CameraZoom FX and that works better at taking the picture quickly. I do expect this to improve as the device matures and some updates get pushed out to it.
That being said, the overall photo quality seems to be pretty good overall. The S8 I am leaving does a better job of handling multiple light levels (like say bright window light in an otherwise dimly lit room), but I do think the Z2F has some promise for sure.
I do agree that I think the shutter lag is very 2015.....so hoping Moto does fix that

disappointing camera
Ksehwail said:
The Camera seems to have potential but the software is terrible, at least on my specific device. The camera is plagued with shutter lag which really seems to take a toll on picture quality. Pro mode is what really upset me with only having the option of 1/4 for shutter speed as the longest time for exposure.
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I agree with this. The camera app is terrible. I came from the HTC 10 into this phone and the HTC blows it out of the water as far as camera quality goes, and I doubt there's any reason for that as far as the sensor/hardware goes There are also other apps that don't seem to access the front flash on this phone, I.E. Instagram, snapchat, etc. could be a driver issue or something, but motorola needs to get it together with the Android O update.

Has any compared picture quality with Open Camera and the google camera app?

Camera App Update
I just noticed that they added two features to the camera app. Object recognition and landmark recognition.They said that they included some bug fixes but did not elaborate. Hopefully they will continue to work on the app and image quality will improve as the phone matures. I think there is potential to improve low light photo's seeing that the black and white sensor should aid low light photography.
So far I am very happy with my photo's. I am a casual user and happy with the images. Realistically I do not think one can expect DSLR quality on a mobile phone. Maybe one day....

I've used several third party apps, and this camera is total trash compared to even my nearly three year old Galaxy S6.. I have to place dramatic Instagram-style filters on everything to hide how crappy this camera is.

I took this picture with full manual mode and it's quite good for me

why not use Hasellblad?

RE910177 said:
why not use Hasellblad?
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It's only useful for its optical zoom.

Does anyone have problem with autofocus....? The autofocus on this device is absolutely terrible.

Google Camera port is your friend when it comes to the Z2 Force. Also, Snapseed is a great editor.
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xRogerxC said:
Google Camera port is your friend when it comes to the Z2 Force. Also, Snapseed is a great editor.
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So, I'm reading through this thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/z2-force/themes/app-modded-gcam-hdr-t3735494 ; there seems to be no gcam available for Z2, which would be fully functional. Are you saying you solved this issue and have one that works? Perhaps you can post to the thread with your findings if you did?

Photo quality

Say "cheese", then rate this thread to express how photos taken with the Huawei P20 come out. A higher rating indicates that photos offer rich color (without over-saturating), sharp detail (with all subjects in-focus), and appropriate exposure (with even lighting).
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

2 more days to go before I got my hands on P20, will shot and compare image with P20, S7, OnePlus 5 and Sony A7 full frame without mention name on pics

P20 vs P10 portrait mode on
Below you can find a comparison on portrait mode quality between P20 and P10.
The photos where shot with portrait mode on and from distance of around 2meters. Same lighting conditions (basically shot in the same time).
The image is cropped a lot so you can see the difference in the detail level. Also the portrait mode recognized the face better and did a better job with the blur (cannot be seen in the sample).
I can also confirm that the low light performance is ... nigh and day difference. Overall, from my point of view, the camera upgrade is very much visible and worth it under most conditions.

with HDR on

Without tripod, night mode

Hi,
Posted this as a separate topic but no feedback so far, as this topic is specifically about the camera I'm looking forward to feedback here
I'm in the market for a new phone and really interested in the P20, it ticks a lot of boxes for me.
However the most important thing for me is the camera: I take a lot of pictures of my kids - often indoors
I went to 2 shops to test the phone and noticed that the pictures came out sharp but dark. The light grey carpet turned out dark grey in many instances.
Only when tapping on the screen (and focusing on the carpet) the brightness was increased but then the focus of the picture was on the carpet instead of the overall picture I wanted to take.
Also the pictures were sometimes not consistent, taking a couple of pictures in a row produced different results.
I tried switching on/off different settings but pictures remained quite dark.
The night mode really took a good picture but asking my kids to sit still for 4 seconds is nearly impossible*
Same thing for the P20 pro, pictures also turned out darker then irl.
The S9 was in the shop as well and this phone actually made everything a bit more bright then irl but the pictures seemed more pleasing.
Where I really had to focus on the picture to see what was in the darker parts in the P20's pictures, the S9's photo revealed all without effort.
Although a samsung user for a long time, I'm not attached to the brand, I was in fact really hoping to make a switch to another brand but the test pictures I took are putting me off a bit.
Anybody else experience this? Any advice on which combo of settings to try?
Cheers
B

Hi,
Does the p20 have ois or not ? Some sites say it does ( like gsmarena ) others do not mention anything.
Thanks !

Al3xxxinho said:
Hi,
Does the p20 have ois or not ? Some sites say it does ( like gsmarena ) others do not mention anything.
Thanks !
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i would say that p20 dont have OIS because there is only EIS in movies (there is a crop when recording 1080p video).
if you want a good camera i would choose the LG G6. my girlfriend bought it in the same time as i bought my p20. LG G6 is now cheap as hell, it has OIS, wide angle camea (it worth more than zoom in P20). and even that selfie camera has only 5Mpix in LG there is an autofocus (p20 dont have autofocus in selfie camera). photos from p20 are overexposed, green color is unnatural.
and LG G6 got few days ago Oreo and even that Snapdragon in LG is slower than Kirin the Andrid on LG is buttery smooth (P20 is not so smooth).

It DOES have OIS on both lenses, up to 108030fps, after that, at 108060fps it uses EIS and at 2160p it has zero IS.
Get your facts straight.

g_oral said:
i would say that p20 dont have OIS because there is only EIS in movies (there is a crop when recording 1080p video).
if you want a good camera i would choose the LG G6. my girlfriend bought it in the same time as i bought my p20. LG G6 is now cheap as hell, it has OIS, wide angle camea (it worth more than zoom in P20). and even that selfie camera has only 5Mpix in LG there is an autofocus (p20 dont have autofocus in selfie camera). photos from p20 are overexposed, green color is unnatural.
and LG G6 got few days ago Oreo and even that Snapdragon in LG is slower than Kirin the Andrid on LG is buttery smooth (P20 is not so smooth).
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Hi @g_oral
I'we owned the LG G6 H870DS variant and I won't come back to LG too soon.
While all the other flagships received Oreo, the G6 was stuck on 7.0. And you know what is more frustating than that ? The annoying 7.0 bug in which the phone idle consumes more power than the screen on time ( which was resolved in 7.1 ).
Overall it was a great phone, but you cannot compare it to P20 which is a lot better than the G6 Also, camera performance was not stelar, I was not impressed.
P.S: G6 does not have autofocus on selfie camera, only HTC 10 does

Al3xxxinho said:
Hi @g_oral
I'we owned the LG G6 H870DS variant and I won't come back to LG too soon.
While all the other flagships received Oreo, the G6 was stuck on 7.0. And you know what is more frustating than that ? The annoying 7.0 bug in which the phone idle consumes more power than the screen on time ( which was resolved in 7.1 ).
Overall it was a great phone, but you cannot compare it to P20 which is a lot better than the G6 Also, camera performance was not stelar, I was not impressed.
P.S: G6 does not have autofocus on selfie camera, only HTC 10 does
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Selfie camera does much better work in lg g6. The colora are better, not overexposed, you can tap the sceen for exposure balance.
I can say that p20 is not worth the money. I bought it because of the free bose headphones but without them p20 should have price of lg g6. Not more.

Camera is basically overhyped ..not better than even old s7 edge, pixel or HTC U11 unless you love over sharpening and oversaturation..Its worse mostly when you take photos of faces look like oil painting

I like the back camera. Can make some nice pictures that are good for making edits.
Night mode is also impressive.
Overall not disappointed.
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For me, the camera has given pretty good results, the sharpening is good, but in night mode is oversharpened, colors may be a little bit intense, not saturated. In video is a deception just for the stabilization (i fix that with Photos app) and the selfie is good with enough light and if you go to snapseed and use the brush tool with -0.3EV. To summarize, is a great camera if you can spend time fixing its tiny errors, but if you don't, it's just what you can expect from a high-end smartphone this days.

I have a Honor 10, and i would like to change for a P20. Because photos are important for me...But i'm not sure... my question is , Is there a big difference (in photo) between the Honor 10 and the P20 ? Somebody already tried the Honor 10 and the P20 ? I see a lot of comparaison on the web always with different results...
Many thanks guys

I have attached some photos I've taken on my P20 pro here in the UK raw photos not actually edited

Master Al ON
Master Al OFF
Night Mode

I quite like the camera. There are some things to consider though:
- Master AI goes crazy from time to time (too much color) but does really help in other situations (e.g. automatic bokeh effect)
- Even with Master AI turned off there are occasions where the lighting and / or the subject lead to strange effects. E.g. sometimes the hair of our dog looks like a painting when zooming a little bit into the picture.
- The image processing tends to oversharpen
Overall I would say the Pixel 2 and even the S9 take good photos more constantly but for me the combination of screen size, device size, camera quality and battery life is best on the Huawei P20. I hope that they improve the mentioned problems or that a good Pixel Camera app port arrives (not much hope as we have a different processor)
Difficult light conditions (dark outside)
https://imgur.com/PuRtF5X
Macro
https://imgur.com/ngK031U
https://imgur.com/pxTwaX5
https://imgur.com/E4yNK8n
Good light conditions
https://imgur.com/CeDEWbW
Here you can see the "painting" style when zooming in
https://imgur.com/mykptOL

Devmil said:
I quite like the camera. There are some things to consider though:
- Master AI goes crazy from time to time (too much color) but does really help in other situations (e.g. automatic bokeh effect)
- Even with Master AI turned off there are occasions where the lighting and / or the subject lead to strange effects. E.g. sometimes the hair of our dog looks like a painting when zooming a little bit into the picture.
- The image processing tends to oversharpen
Overall I would say the Pixel 2 and even the S9 take good photos more constantly but for me the combination of screen size, device size, camera quality and battery life is best on the Huawei P20. I hope that they improve the mentioned problems or that a good Pixel Camera app port arrives (not much hope as we have a different processor)
Difficult light conditions (dark outside)
https://imgur.com/PuRtF5X
Macro
https://imgur.com/ngK031U
https://imgur.com/pxTwaX5
https://imgur.com/E4yNK8n
Good light conditions
https://imgur.com/CeDEWbW
Here you can see the "painting" style when zooming in
https://imgur.com/mykptOL
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Weak point of p20 camera is video recording ..If someone liek natural looking photos then this camera is not for them

Al3xxxinho said:
Hi,
Does the p20 have ois or not ? Some sites say it does ( like gsmarena ) others do not mention anything.
Thanks !
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Huawei P20 camera specs
Rear cameras:
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Huawei P20 camera specs
Rear cameras:

Photo quality

Say "cheese", then rate this thread to express how photos taken with the Huawei P20 Pro come out. A higher rating indicates that photos offer rich color (without over-saturating), sharp detail (with all subjects in-focus), and appropriate exposure (with even lighting).
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

P20 Pro vs Pixel 2 XL...
I have both devices currently and from my very brief short time with the P20 pro , the pictures taken with it don't even come close to the quality you can get from the Pixel 2 XL.
Please tell me its just a case of faulty software, else I think I may be taking this phone back sadly.
Problems so far
Images lack any real detail and are very soft
HDR mode still hidden
Night Mode whilst great is still a 4 sec picture.. (but still soft ) - (The advantage you get from those 4 secs does not seem worth it from my quick test - but i'll keep testing)
Camera UI is rubbish... (subjective i know)
But it will be interesting to know if anyone else as similar experiences , as most reviewers online appear to suggest that this is the best camera phone ever!
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Soft images.

Photo Quality
Have taken a few shots with the camera, the modes are the same pretty much as in the Mate 10 Pro so you have fully manual "Pro Mode" which shoots RAW plus a range of features including;
HDR
Light Painting
Monochrome
Aperture
Portrait
Night Shot
Panorama
The beauty mode is now a lot less aggressive on 0 setting and in portrait mode you can get some amazing detail and shallow depth of field.
The overall star is night shot which takes a 3 second long exposure which is fully stabilized and its like a super HDR setting which blows away the Mate 10 Pro I had before. Even using zoom (pinch to zoom on screen is enabled) the level of detail and depth is like using a dedicated camera.
I think with photography and equipment there is a large element of variation in the skill of the reviewers and unless you have both cameras in identical circumstances which is nigh on impossible, its difficult to be fair to compare. A lot of reviews I have seen go on about the AI not being perfect, which it isn't yet on any phone but its nice that this technology is developing to allow better shots for average Joe.
I normally use a full frame Sony Alpha and I can honestly say so far the image quality I am getting on the P20 Pro is the best of any phone I have used.
I cant comment on the XL but I have owned the Mate 10 Pro, Note 8, S8+ and IPhone 7 all recently and although these are all good phones with great cameras the shots I have got out of the P20 Pro so far have impressed me a lot more.
As a side note personally I would never use any of the AI modes except Night Shot, I never use the AI enabled render modes which is where many of the reviewers have had problems because its not a perfected science yet.

This is a good phone to benchmark the camera chops of the reviewer, those who can actually do anything more than point n shoot photos are taking amazing shots with this phone. I'm stunned how good a lot of the shots are.

It's the zoom that really makes this phone. You can extract detail from shots that no other phone (especially the pixel 2) could remotely pull off. You can frame a subject at 5x zoom and get a detailed shot whereas the pixel 2 would be a blurry mess.
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Disappointing
I'm also comparing shot for shot with the Pixel 2 XL and finding so far, apart from zoom, the P20 Pro is inferior to the Pixel 2. So far using only auto mode on both phones the Pixel shots are visibly superior, picking out more detail and producing better low light pictures. The only exception is the 5x zoom which is absolutely phenomenal on the P20. I've yet to try any night shots because it's been pretty much constant rain since the phone arrived. Considering the hype, I'm really disappointed in it. I know if I pull out the Pixel and grab a shot it's going to be good 99% of the time. I don't want to have to **** around with the settings every time I want to take a photo. Also the front facing camera is a joke. Even with beauty mode turned off, the image lacks detail and is ridiculously overexposed. The AI isn't particularly useful either - tried taking a photo of my dog in the garden and the AI went nuts flicking between the dog and greenery settings. There's a good camera in this phone but the Huawei processing is smothering it.

Huawei camera always more suitable for professional or those who love to play with settings. As a point and shoot I do see Samsung and pixel are capable of shooting better photos. But with a superior hardware I do believe there is nothing Huawei can't fix with a software update.

Tiger33 said:
P20 Pro vs Pixel 2 XL...
I have both devices currently and from my very brief short time with the P20 pro , the pictures taken with it don't even come close to the quality you can get from the Pixel 2 XL.
Please tell me its just a case of faulty software, else I think I may be taking this phone back sadly.
Problems so far
Images lack any real detail and are very soft
HDR mode still hidden
Night Mode whilst great is still a 4 sec picture.. (but still soft ) - (The advantage you get from those 4 secs does not seem worth it from my quick test - but i'll keep testing)
Camera UI is rubbish... (subjective i know)
But it will be interesting to know if anyone else as similar experiences , as most reviewers online appear to suggest that this is the best camera phone ever!
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Soft images.
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In P20 pro u use 40mp or 10mp supersampling resolution? Better stick to 10mp dude, and did it has an option to turn off the AI scene recognition? If have, turn it off.
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delete me

German review but you can still look at the pictures. No night mode sadly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWXKp817fJI

The biggest problem I'm having is the wildly variable greens. Sometimes it will go nuts and make grass look like some kind of weird neon lit alien landscape then in the next shot, perfect. This happens with the AI on and off. Everything else is pretty close to natural, just doesn't seem able to handle grass.

Hello guys.. p20 pro camera is doing well but no perfect!! Im sure that will be an update as fast as possible... but the realy problem isnt the 40 mp camera but the selfie camera witch is 24mp and the quality is very low and some times selfi captures seems discolored!!
anyone else noticed that discolored?

Bad quality for the hardware that's inside. Terribly overprocessed images that looks very fake most of the time. Only way to bypass that is to shot in 40mp but that introduces heavy purple fringe. Someone at Huawei should get fired. Both my iPhone X and LG V10 gives me better images.

huawei and their marketing gimmicks and paid reviewers

dannejanne said:
Bad quality for the hardware that's inside. Terribly overprocessed images that looks very fake most of the time. Only way to bypass that is to shot in 40mp but that introduces heavy purple fringe. Someone at Huawei should get fired. Both my iPhone X and LG V10 gives me better images.
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Not so bad I think. But I agree often color are overexposed, and I close the Ai suggestion to have better result especially in greenery

justyourimage said:
Well yes.
It's surprising that Huawei actually managed to load a Smartphone full of a Camera Sensor with 1/1.7" size 1.6 Aperature, OIS on all three cameras and still doesn't manage to make a simple non-progressed picture under daylight conditions that looks like a $50 phone from 2008. Most $100 China-Smartphones from 2017 do manage to make better-looking pictures.
I don't know who in their Software-Devision took drugs to actually **** up that bad but yes - it's purely software releated.
Most likey due to both cameras adding the picture in overlay mode even while shooting with the main-sensor without any after-processing would be more then plenty with that capable hardware.
Actually maybe that Aperature is the only drawback I'm seeing (lens-flare) where the S9+ has a hand over it but aside from that ...
And ****ing the Software so much up is actually a bad thing. I'd recommend anyone to wait a few months to see if they even mange to fix it - unless you're shooting RAW only in Manual Mode.
Maybe if we're lucky we'll see a ported Google Camera with HDR+ on it ...
Sight, that thing is a beast tamed with the worst software I've seen in a long time. Kinda reminding me of the LG when it was going back to down ...
If I were Huawei I'd fire my Software devision and pay Google to actually develop a working Software for them.
Manual Mode or not, there is a limit how stupidly broken you can make an Auto-Mode ... and calling that thing AI-Powered is even more funny.
Just look at the daylight samples of DXoMark ... it should have never gotten such high scores at all at its current stage (that's Huawei for you ...)
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Most reviews i've read suggest AI mode is the best overall option
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paysen said:
German review but you can still look at the pictures. No night mode sadly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWXKp817fJI
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That guy had me at *wearing a Stratovarius t-shirt* lol

I recently bought a P20 and as a previous P10 owner, the front 24mp camera of the P20 is AWFUL. I will NOT sugar coat it but this thing has a very very bad front camera. It looks like an upscaled 5MP camera. Images are soft and overexposed. Dynamic range is pretty bad! Huawei just wanted to put a higher resolution since most China OEMs have 24MP cameras these days.
The 8mp f/1.9 front camera of the P10 is much clearer, sharper in ALL lighting conditions. I miss the feature wherein the front camera field of view will change if you are taking a group shot.
Youtube reviewers are too scared to criticize the front camera solely because Huawei have been sponsoring their flights and accommodation on their annual P series events.

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ijuanp03 said:
I recently bought a P20 and as a previous P10 owner, the front 24mp camera of the P20 is AWFUL. I will NOT sugar coat it but this thing has a very very bad front camera. It looks like an upscaled 5MP camera. Images are soft and overexposed. Dynamic range is pretty bad! Huawei just wanted to put a higher resolution since most China OEMs have 24MP cameras these days.
The 8mp f/1.9 front camera of the P10 is much clearer, sharper in ALL lighting conditions. I miss the feature wherein the front camera field of view will change if you are taking a group shot.
Youtube reviewers are too scared to criticize the front camera solely because Huawei have been sponsoring their flights and accommodation on their annual P series events.
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hope for an update!!!

cornel.atomei said:
Here is a video review for P20 PRO vs P20 I made on my channel. The Pro is king, but the regular p20 is not that far behind.
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King of what?
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Bromsoket said:
King of what?
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Of Huawei cameras. Not all smartphone cameras, i still think the pixel 2 can overtake it in pretty much al scenarios...