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Hey!
As i've previously mentioned here once (I think), i started a small forum where I tried to gather all the setups for running Android on various HTC models. Now that the HTC G1 (Dream) is soon released, we will will get some very interesting challenges while trying to build Android ROM's, etc..
This forum is great, but its also very big. Thought that it might be a good idea to have our android resources on a separate forum?
Anyways, thought i could register a domain and such, but for now the forum is at http://www.connect-utb.com/htcandroid
Some of you are there already! Hopefully, with the experienced user base we have here, we can get Android ROMS and whatnot for our HTC models, as the HTC Dream looks rather poor. (Although better devices will surely come in the future).
you must be joking. Android is a total OS unlike apps that we see all over which are portable among HTC devices. It takes months alone just to get Android as it is today for the kaiser. Mostly everything for WM can be ported among other devices which some exceptions to nontouch devices. It'll be a long time until you see Android ported over to more devices than now. My suggestion would be to use a device that's got android projects already in progress or at your nearest convenience to buy a device with android on it.
Think we misunderstand each other, but you dont believe that if we can extract the android ROM from the HTC Dream, and modify and install it on lets say, the Kaiser?
You can always try before saying that it isn't going to work.
I will track this post because i'm very curious by the Android OS.
I get it...and completely understand what this is about...it's HTC...which means theoretically we should be able to at least somewhat get it working...I've started a wizard thread on your new forum in hopes that any information or progress getting it ported over gets posted all in one location for easy access....kudo's for thinking ahead as I dont think android is going anywhere soon and while this forum is very useful it's mostly for winmo devices....nothing wrong with speading the wings a lil bit and branching out...
looking forward to the press conference!!
I would say we should be able to get Android to run on the OS level of our devices, but it will probably need a bit of modifying. However, since it's open source I'm hoping the modifying will be a lot easier because of this.
Hey,
I was just on HTC homepage ( htc.com ), where the G1 is shown.
They printed the specs, which are very similar to the diamond
Same chipset, same rom size, same ram size,...
SO I think, it would be ( maybe easily?) possible to port android to the diamond
greets doena
WatskeBart said:
I will track this post because i'm very curious by the Android OS.
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Same here!
If my memory does not fail, I remember that one of the first peaks at Android was being run in a Blue Angel. So, I guess there is a big chance that we might in fact be able to see Android running on more than one device (of course, you will have more or less features depending on the device's capabilities and hardware limitations, namely apps that work with an accelerometer, etc).
Maybe, the development should be worth following because as much as I don't want to believe it, my device (Blue Angel) will only trick death for so long (by death I mean not being able to move to newer versions of WM) and we will need a way to pass the time .
HTC Touch Vogue in progress of being ported
Hey don't forget about the senior member "DZO" that started ANDROID porting to HTC Vogue and it is Successful
This is his direct link to the files : http://cs-alb-pc3.massey.ac.nz/vogue
And here is the link to the posting: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=382265
I think he did a GREAT job porting Android. I am running Android 0.9 with most of the featuress except installing programs but only because he is the only one that does that. So, he needs help! I am sure... Plus, on this site people are cheeping in for HTC Diamond so he can work on that too...
Here is the link: http://www.myhtcphone.com
So, if you want something done we should start by contributing either money, or programming support! I wish I knew how to program this
ahhhh I wish I would have fully functional Android on my HTC
Thanks for the support! The forums are slightly active now!
Hopefully, we will be able to get Android running more or less flawless soon! As pointed out, its possible!
he he nice link, it seems that there are allready htc devices running with android.
just wondering, is it possible to have dual boot in one device ?
hmmm, seems to have no desktop syncing.. this may be a huge set back for anyone trying to get androig running on another HTC device.
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just wondering, is it possible to have dual boot in one device ?
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well currently (or in the case of the vogue) android is being booted via haret (a linux bootloaded) running on top of windows mobile.. so i guess its already kind of dual boot
For now, Android has to be run from within Windows Mobile, so no true dual boot yet
Already started
Hey you guys might want to check out the following links. Over at PPC Geeks they already have a thread going:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=23244
Also if you want to download the current Android cab for HTC go to:
http://www.myhtcphone.com/
doena said:
Hey,
I was just on HTC homepage ( htc.com ), where the G1 is shown.
They printed the specs, which are very similar to the diamond
Same chipset, same rom size, same ram size,...
SO I think, it would be ( maybe easily?) possible to port android to the diamond
greets doena
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Diamond doesnt have QWERTY keyboard, so i think it could be on Touch Pro instead
Someone ported Android for BlueAngel?
Please can someone tell me if Android is already running in BlueAngel? If there is a way show me how. Thanks Man!!!
Maybe I'm mistaken, but wasn't Android made so that it can run on a wide range of devices. I, for one, can't wait till its ported to samsung omnia. Damn, that would be good!
@Coldheat,
What does the cab file do? Its an OS, so cab file??
I was looking over the internet yesterday and I found CLEAN english rom wm6.5 for Jack...At least that's what one chinese guy told me on a forum (chinese):
So maybe thing will move forward a lil' bit for us, Jack users.
Download:
IN TXT (since I'm a newbie-url lock)
I bet lots of you is still waiting for this.
I have it running...It's nice...although it has few glitches....lil chinese here and there...but beside that it really handy and CLEAN
I'm not an expert on this sort of thing, nor do I pretend to be one (although not from a lack of understanding, simply a lack of knowledge.) I gave it a shot. It seemed like it lags a little bit more than the standard Samsung/AT&T ROM. There were several things I liked about it including the new interfaces and much improved task manager and file explorer. There's a little bit too much Chinese in it for me (I tried to do a few tweeks but many of the registry/system files are in Chinese)
Hopefully someone with a bit more knowledge/experience can help to make this a more user friendly ROM.
Yeah. I figured to compare this chinese rom with the original (treat chinese as a base model) and figure out which stuff to throw away from original...
And maybe do the other way around and figure out which stuff can be added to original.
But taht's just be...newbie talk.
cheers
Here is my 2 cents...
Maybe I shouldn't have bought these phones... I got 2 for a penny each. I ugraded to a Tilt 2 instantly.... My wife is still on the Jack.
It is God awful of a ROM loadaout for what it is... it's got alot under the hood for it's form factor and can perform nicely with the right tweaks and interface.
Sadly, The interest in this project is not at all dissimilar to Samsungs interest in Winmo as a whole. This is undoubtedly why we do not see the released ROMs from Sammy like we do with HTC.
HTC seems to know that if the public can enhance the device... They will buy the device. Samsungs lock and subsequent turnabout away from Microsoft will leave many users of this device in the dust and looking to ditch it quick. I did.
@ mykail or anyone who can help...:
Were you able to find a clean ROM for this phone?
I would love to upgrade to WM 6.5, but my device is unlocked, so the ATT option is not the best option for me (though it exists).
I have spent several days looking for it, but you've been longer than me, i just got the phone a week ago.
I appreciate any help in this issue.
I changed phones. I'm running HTC now on Android.
About the Jack. Haven't been searching for clean rom since November. Just few seconds ago popped in to our chinese friends and they are still developing. From what I saw it appears they are running Jack @ Win7.
Links if you want to try it: Credits go to [email protected]
WIN7 :
SGH-I637_WM6.5(23137)_CHS&ENG_WIN7AC3_ĐÂěű°ć.7z
md5:80D6C95A46109F92DCCD11F5A5998090
WIN7
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ŃĹşÚ6.0°ć:
SGH-I637_WM6.5(23137)_CHS&ENG_MSYH6.0_ĐÂěű°ć.7z
md5:FB742ECFFD98D3AEE749A53A11397663
MSYH6.0
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Different Devs:
2010.12.12 build23137 WinMo6.5_CN_EN by [email protected]
SGH-I637 WM6.5 Mix ROM (cn and en) V1.2 by [email protected]
evya1.2 I637
about more than 50% chinese guys use evya1.2 rom for jack2
its good
Help with ROM issues
Hi Guys,
At first i must say sorry for re-open this post. there is a lot of months since the last response.
I bought a samsung sgh-i637 in LatinAmerica, playing on the internet i used the AT&T ROM for upgrading to Windows Mobile 6.5 but as you know that rom has a lot of programas of AT&T and also they change the major of keys (keypad) functionability... and at the end the phone still stay locked for AT&T.
I want to know if is possible get a ROM without the AT&T programs and also that it unlock my phone for use with any phone operator.
Thanks a lot!
Let me start by saying I'm fairly new to Android, and that this probably should go in a general Android forum, but since I'm a Fascinate user, this seems appropriate to me. I've searched, but haven't found a real explanation, and I'm not one to take things as fact without a reasonable explanation.
So it seems like everyone is waiting for an official 2.2 release for the Fascinate, flashing 2.1 ROMs but not capable of upgrading to 2.2+; but I'm wondering why we can't just compile our own OS for our phones? Android is a Linux-like OS, and I know Linux users would never stay on an old version if a newer (better?) version was available. I'm talking down-and-dirty tweak-every-option-by-hand Slackware here. Is the source available for download? If so, why can't we do something with it? Is something in the phone completely locked and unhackable? Is it the fear of having a $500 paperweight? Is it difficult to regain Verizon network connectivity?
Again, forgive the noob question, and thanks in advance for any help you can give me!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=792986
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=883004
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=882946
There is currently work being done by jt, birdman, and the other skew of developers trying to develop a working AOSP version of 2.2/2.3. The biggest struggle that they have encountered was the RIL (Radio Interface Layer) binaries. Samsung produced some bogus complex proprietary binaries with no properly working source code. Because this phone is CDMA and not GSM, we can't simply use galaxy s files.
Anyways, the point is that there is work being done to bring it to our phone. They have a working AOSP 2.1 that is currently in alpha stage. Jt basically built his own RIL for this phone to get it working.
If this RIL works, we may end up with 2.3 sooner than later.
eulipion2 said:
Let me start by saying I'm fairly new to Android, and that this probably should go in a general Android forum, but since I'm a Fascinate user, this seems appropriate to me. I've searched, but haven't found a real explanation, and I'm not one to take things as fact without a reasonable explanation.
So it seems like everyone is waiting for an official 2.2 release for the Fascinate, flashing 2.1 ROMs but not capable of upgrading to 2.2+; but I'm wondering why we can't just compile our own OS for our phones? Android is a Linux-like OS, and I know Linux users would never stay on an old version if a newer (better?) version was available. I'm talking down-and-dirty tweak-every-option-by-hand Slackware here. Is the source available for download? If so, why can't we do something with it? Is something in the phone completely locked and unhackable? Is it the fear of having a $500 paperweight? Is it difficult to regain Verizon network connectivity?
Again, forgive the noob question, and thanks in advance for any help you can give me!
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You obviously have not searched hard enough, as this has been discussed in many places. I would suggest you start by searching this forum (edit: or seeing the links and posts above).
I will say, however, that recent achievements by (edit: the developers mentioned above) have made your suggestion quite possible. If you want to get a taste of what is to come, see the aosp alpha sticky located in the development section. The rom still has bugs, but it is a giant step forward for the Fascinate.
Sent from my Galaxy-S Fascinate
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=792986
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=883004
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=882946
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^^^^^
10char
I must add/point out that the work these guys are doing could easily pave the way for Cyanogenmod- and other well-featured roms to be compiled/ported and used on Fascinate as well.
I've read the above links, but they didn't really quite answer my question. I guess I'm wondering why a Linux-based OS isn't acting/being treated like a Linux-based OS.
Let's say I go out and buy a new computer today. I want to put Linux on it. I get the machine home, download my distro of choice and make an install cd. As I'm installing, I configure the installation either for my specific hardware or I can use a generic profile if my hardware isn't listed.
Now say a new version of the Linux kernel comes out. I can upgrade without having to wait for a version for my hardware. Or if I install MyDistro v1 when I get my machine, and MyDistro v2 comes out the next day, I don't have to wait for someone to develop a version to work with my hardware.
So my question is more of a why can't we upgrade our distro like other Linux variants? Is it because there's no generic replacement for the Samsung RIL? If I were to download the source and do a generic build, or even a specific one, I wouldn't be able to install it because...?
Sorry to be a pain, but I genuinely have no clue. Again, thank you for the insight!
2.2 will boot on the I500 just nothing works. If you would like to help http://opensource.samsung.com/
The source code can be found there. Please feel free to help the development along.
I suggest you read through the reply's to your question and pay special note to those bringing up the RIL as that seems to be the biggest hurdle right now.
I think maybe the answer you are looking for is that it is possible to do it, it's just extremely difficult because Samsung's open source is very shoddy and isn't based on AOS, which is what is used for most other phones.
Since the developers don't have a build that works, they have to work from the ground up with AOS and get every last feature on the fascinate working without using Samsung's code (TouchWiz, widgets, etc).
The links they gave you explain most of it but you have to sift through the posts. There is a dev named jt (amongst others) who is working on a ROM that is upgradable based on AOSP and it looks very promising.
edit: It's also worth noting that when I say "not based on AOS" I mean that it is proprietary software used by Samsung-only phones and is not coded by Google. It still, of course, is based on Android OS. It would be akin to a ROM coded by Samsung for their phones rather than generic ROMs that could be downloaded by other phones.
Perfect, thanks!
Try thinking of it as buying an Ubuntu laptop from dell. Sure its " Ubuntu" but not stock. It so full of bloat and badly written drivers that aren't supplied openly for the user that it would be hell trying get the latest version of ubuntu to run on it.
Sent from my SCH-I500 using XDA App
For clarification.... so I can wrap my brain around this. Is this situation kinda like having bought a new computer that's running an os, but has no installed device drivers and nowhere to download them from, so they have to be written by hand?
Edit: that last post came thru while I was writing this one, I think it basically answers my question...
So what the devs on here are trying to do is develop a "generic" profile that can work on our phone (as well as others?), creating a solid base to allow users to upgrade and change at-will without having to wait for official releases?
See, that's the part I'm having a hard time with. No generic profile built into the OS to use in the absence of a hardware specific one?
LoverBoyV said:
Try thinking of it as buying an Ubuntu laptop from dell. Sure its " Ubuntu" but not stock. It so full of bloat and badly written drivers that aren't supplied openly for the user that it would be hell trying get the latest version of ubuntu to run on it.
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On a sidenote, I bought a Dell netbook witih Ubuntu. Didn't waste time with Ubuntu, but I chose it because I didn't want MS to get money from a license fee. Installed Mac OS X on it the day it arrived
Ya know, I tried to do the same thing with my inspiron 1525 notebook, with snow leopard 10.6.3 since I have a spare hard drive. Spent a whole day with numerous guides, trying this n that. Got it to actually boot to the desktop once, bit as I was putting the drivers in, it went into KP and from that point on, I could never even reinstall back to the desktop again.
Well, Samsung is giving us a simple/reliable update to Froyo with unique functionality, as soon as possible.
Source: (Twitter, About 12pm 1/2/2011 from Samsungtweets via Cotweet - http://twitter.com/Samsungtweets/samsung-usa )
Samsungtweets We are working to make the Android 2.2/Froyo upgrade available to all U.S Galaxy S owners as soon as possible.
Samsungtweets We want Galaxy S owners to have simple/reliable upgrade. We r running tests due to complexity/unique functionality
EDIT: gave more specific time and source of tweets. Post is meant to be objective, without definition of ASAP for this context.
Swyped w/ XDA App. When in doubt, mumble.
soba49 said:
Well, Samsung is giving us a simple/reliable update to Froyo with unique functionality, as soon as possible.
Source (Twitter, 6 hours ago):
Samsungtweets We are working to make the Android 2.2/Froyo upgrade available to all U.S Galaxy S owners as soon as possible.
Samsungtweets We want Galaxy S owners to have simple/reliable upgrade. We r running tests due to complexity/unique functionality
Swyped w/ XDA App. When in doubt, mumble.
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I'm not sure if this is meant to be funny or not haha. Are those recent tweets?
Sent from my SCH-I500 using XDA App
They seem to post the same things over and over, of course this is also because people constantly ask when is froyo coming, and every time they say there is no definite date. It is coming soon that that is all they will say; yelling, moaning and crying isn't gonna make it come any sooner, just sit back and it will eventually come.
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Phone HD2
Software = OS version 5.2.21913.5.0.94
Manila version = 2.5.20181424.0
Rom = 3.14.531.1 (04666)WWE
Rom date = 9-29-10
Radio version = 2.15.50.14
Protocol version = 15.42.50.11U
1st I would like to point out I am not extremely knowledgeable in understanding allot of the technical information xda developers has to offer & provides.
However pointed in the right direction, and explanations( mostly in laymen's terms) I can usually muddle my way through some fixes & updates.
Actually xda developers helped me in the past with a phone issue, and through the kind help of its members I was able to get my issue resolved.
So now I have returned, because while using Google to look up some information about my HD2 I ran across numerous articles and posts proclaiming the HD2 as "Legendary" and still one of the best phones being used today.
So this brings up my question/s as to why?
My last phone took a swim with me and I pulled this out of the closet until I decided on what phone to purchase next.
Truthfully I considered this phone a step above my boat anchor and could not wait until I got something else.
NOW, with all the praise that seems to follow this phone, the need to know why and what makes it special has had me thinking that maybe the thing this phone lacks the most is my inability to use it properly and update it into something I would enjoy to use.
I've owned many phones in the past, starting with a bag phone, along with Windows phones, Android phones and a Iphone4.
In the past basically I used my phone as just what it was designed to be, a phone to make calls.
Currently I still use my phone for mostly making calls and texting. I'll use it to look things up on the internet, but still prefer a computer and my large dual monitors when doing most other things.
So after this long winded intro and maybe useless information, here are the things I would like to get out of this post if possible:
#1- What changes can I do to make the phone more current and enjoyable ? (keeping in mind simple instructions for a simple mind )
I'm looking for insight on what people have done.
Maybe changed the phone to Windows 7?
Maybe making the phone android ?
ROM changes?
Software /Hardware changes?
ANY and ALL information anybody would share would be appreciated. I'm really hoping I can make some changes to the phone and start enjoying what I am currently missing out on.
However, on any recommended change could you please provide me a link or a starting point where step by step instructions are available as to how to make the change/s?
Again,many thanks in advance
Hi!
HD2 is a legend simply because it is a device that can run almost all the mobile operative sistems that are available (and not only)
as users often say, it's just like it refuses to die.
if you want to try the magic of HD2, i suggest you to start with this guide, the one I followed when rooted mine...
also, search for HD2Toolkit and for adb/fastboot drivers, very useful tools... I don't provide links because it's full of threads about this, just look around
hope I've helped and ready to help again
p.s. after installing android, for example, you'll realize how powerful HD2 is and how limiting Windows Mobile is
Two things:
1. Great specs for its time, one of the first phones with 1GHz Snapdragon processor that still holds up not that bad considering it's almost 4 years old now. I'm not complaining about performance with my HD2. That's because I'm either used to the slowness or it's not that bad or I don't have money for a new device.
2. WinMo, WP7 and Android - all available and stable on pretty much latest versions (Android can take some time to be working 100%, but it's not so behind other native Android devices which often don't get any updates at all) - this device isn't bound by the system, so when you hear two people arguing that WP7 or Android is better or discussing if they should buy an Android or WP7 phone you can just say "**** you, I can have both of them".
lukes91
I appreciate you bringing this thread to my attention.
Before I opened my thread I had run across this (and did not read all the way through) but with my limited knowledge due that it dated back to 2011 I was unsure of it's relevance.
So based on your post you prefer android vs Windows 7 install, or just using that as a example?
Thanks Spaqin,
Although now I am a little confused (then I was :laugh
You state the phone has a 1GHz Snapdragon processor
Is that the same as CPU QUALCOMM(R)8250B ?
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lukes91
I appreciate you bringing this thread to my attention.
Before I opened my thread I had run across this (and did not read all the way through) but with my limited knowledge due that it dated back to 2011 I was unsure of it's relevance.
So based on your post you prefer android vs Windows 7 install, or just using that as a example?
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I do prefer android because it's open source and developers can prepare better roms in my opinion and you can personalize it
If I were you, I would install different android roms and try to find the one that bests fits my needs and my wishes...
Let me give you 2 more suggestions:
1) on this site (maybe you already know it) you can find many different roms and different versions of android
2) try not to judge a rom as you installed it, but let 4-5 days pass and perform some reboots: this way battery stats and the whole rom will succesfully settle on you device and it will give you the best performances it will be a pleasure
You make it multiboot, with WP7 and 2 or 3 android rom ( one Sense, one JB and one MIUI for example ). So you just reboot to change the OS and you can decide which one you like best.
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You state the phone has a 1GHz Snapdragon processor
Is that the same as CPU QUALCOMM(R)8250B ?
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Yeah, that's the CPU. Without the B at the end though if I'm not mistaken, but that's QSD8250. So at least it's very similar to that your model.
Hello XDA'ers.
First let me say that this will be somewhat a post about frustration with Android devices, but it's not meant to be misconstrued as disrespect to those who contribute to the development community. I know you guys work hard at this and I do appreciate your efforts. Your ROMs have been lightyears ahead of what Samsung stock offers.
But with that said, here's my question: is there a single rom that will work properly, is stable, wont crash, etc? I have been through over a dozen different ROMs across two devices, and there's always been something small or large wrong with them. The one I'm using on my i9505 right now is by Antares One and yesterday it decided to show me three or four notifications that "Google Play Services has stopped working" per minute and today none of my SMS messages are being sent.
But it's not limited that, rather, there's always been something or other that the Android ROM didn't like, or I had to find a workaround, or had to completely reflash with something else.
Has anyone experienced this? Why can't Android just be a stable OS? I'm really thinking about switching to a Microsoft phone for my next upgrade.
DJ
Even stock roms have their problems and stability issues. If you look through the Q&A section you'll find several threads about stock rom issues.
It's not Android's fault entirely. It has to do with the phone too. Roms on my device are always stable. Yet another user running the same rom on the same device has various problems.
I am currently running AOSP Marshmallow by the JDCTeam, no problems. Bluetooth works, wifi works, mobile data works, battery is fine (I went to sleep with 70% left and when I woke up 8 hours later it still was at 70%).
the problem here is the impossible fix of many problems by developers..why? many developers are not soft engineer and maybe they dont even know how to program just know how to port and replace files and thats all..a big team for every single phone are just impossible..
so a stable rom will never come..just find the one "flawless" and keep it..
for me the stable roms are not cm..or aosp..stock rom debloated are very stable..like s6 port to s4 and debloated..is a good one
Use stock ROM for stability. Although they are not fast as AOSP but they dont exhibit strange behaviors.
Sent from my GT-I9505 using Tapatalk
DJRepresent said:
Hello XDA'ers.
First let me say that this will be somewhat a post about frustration with Android devices, but it's not meant to be misconstrued as disrespect to those who contribute to the development community. I know you guys work hard at this and I do appreciate your efforts. Your ROMs have been lightyears ahead of what Samsung stock offers.
But with that said, here's my question: is there a single rom that will work properly, is stable, wont crash, etc? I have been through over a dozen different ROMs across two devices, and there's always been something small or large wrong with them. The one I'm using on my i9505 right now is by Antares One and yesterday it decided to show me three or four notifications that "Google Play Services has stopped working" per minute and today none of my SMS messages are being sent.
But it's not limited that, rather, there's always been something or other that the Android ROM didn't like, or I had to find a workaround, or had to completely reflash with something else.
Has anyone experienced this? Why can't Android just be a stable OS? I'm really thinking about switching to a Microsoft phone for my next upgrade.
DJ
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Like GDReaper said in his post. For us those roms run perfectly fine. Sure there are bugs, but most issues are known before you decide to flash the rom. Besides the obvious bugs that are present there is also the user. A lot of problems are caused by inexperienced users. They don't know how to set up their phone, they flash shady apps, or use modifycations of their own (Xposed for example).
Then they come to XDA and provide no usefull information at all. For example:
"The one I'm using on my i9505 right now is by Antares One and yesterday it decided to show me three or four notifications that "Google Play Services has stopped working" per minute and today none of my SMS messages are being sent."
- For example you say you use a rom by Antares One. This gives us no information at all. He has made like 4 roms for the I9505. What build? What android version?
- Google Play Services has stopped working. What gapps package did you use?
- Have you made modifications of your own?
- Are you running an up to date modem and bootloader?
Also keep in mind that if you use for example a MM build that it's a work in progress. It has to be coded from scratch. So surely there will be some bugs, but you will get the latest Android version in return with all the latest security patches.
This post is not intended to flame you in any way. I think most of your frustration comes from the expectations that you have. You cannot expect that a CM based rom will work flawlessly out of the box. It's a work in progress.
This is a very good observation. I was thinking to write this kind of post in december.
A lot of Roms are abandoned or never pass nightly and you have to flash and flash again. Then suddenly all people jump to MM as if the world is ending tomorow. It is hard to find a good rom starting with Lollipop. I see a lot of people crying after KK stability and downgrading.
People are in a hurry, devs too, to flash the newest rom.
I prefer stability. A phone is not a camera, nor a battle field for flashing.. My 2C opinion.
I like custom roms, but sadly i need stability before customisation or performance. The only rom that delivers in this is Stock TW 4.4.2. If you want to go back to Kitkat use the latest firmware for your region.
It's very hard to deliver stability with a custom rom as stability is achieved through manpower, time and resources, which can't be provided through just donations.
Roms are abandoned because people move to other devices at some point.
And you can't stay on the same android version. Most of the roms are built from other sources. Like Resurrection Remix. The developer is wescrip, and he owns an LG device. The version for our S4 is built from his sources by TJSteveMX. If wescrip switched to Marshmallow it's pretty much impossible to for TJ to keep it Lollipop.
DJRepresent said:
(...)Why can't Android just be a stable OS? I'm really thinking about switching to a Microsoft phone for my next upgrade.DJ
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This is a more general answer:
In the Android world there is a huge diversity of devices (--> hardware) and Android versions. The next thing, you have to keep in mind: A lot of vendors and telecommunications companies include their modifications into the ROMs.
I think that due to the availability of new devices each year and all these modifications, which also include the full stop in official updates after 6 months after the release of the device, will lead to unstable (official) ROMs.
The community then tries to update the devices in their spare time to the newest versions. But they have to figure out some special settings and modifications per device. And this is a long way as it seems.
In my opinion, you should not blame the community and the developers. I think, it is more Google or the vendors that can´t agree on a good way to distribute newer Android versions (e.g. a new API layer between OS and Hardware).