Is there any advantage using stock ROM even now?
Regarding stability? Or Network fluctuation OR everything sorted out in Custom already?
Is there anything to lose in custom or only i'll gain witching to custom ROM?
.:Addicted:. said:
Is there any advantage using stock ROM even now?
Regarding stability? Or Network fluctuation OR everything sorted out in Custom already?
Is there anything to lose in custom or only i'll gain witching to custom ROM?
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Safetynet and Google play certification is something you will never have without trick(not even sure about that) on custom ROM
Rest is a matter of opinion
Post with "I'm on a custom rom and I pass safetynet" incoming !?
Yes but not without magisk or some kind of dirty hiding method which breaks from time to time
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Also if you don't care about safetynet and co
Stock rom is the simplest to modify with Xposed and substratum
No hassle, stability and monthly updates?
I've also got VoLTE & VoWiFi on stock, don't know if custom roms support this...
Dead-neM said:
Also if you don't care about safetynet and co
Stock rom is the simplest to modify with Xposed and substratum
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Already doing that.
Disabling Busybox & xposed allows passing safetynet for that matter.
Right now only thing i lack in stock is Screen Recording with internal audio. Hoping custom ROM like LOS, RR has workaround.
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No hassle, stability and monthly updates?
I've also got VoLTE & VoWiFi on stock, don't know if custom roms support this...
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No Hassle?? I have to dirty flash Stock ROM every update anyway.
Monthly updates are provided by custom ROM.
VoLTE is working in most Custom ROM.
Don't know VoWifi. Never used that.
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Is there any advantage using stock ROM even now?
Regarding stability? Or Network fluctuation OR everything sorted out in Custom already?
Is there anything to lose in custom or only i'll gain witching to custom ROM?
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I've only tried Resurrection Remix, but I noticed that the audio (for music playback, through both the speaker and the headphones) is much better on the stock ROM.
Note that I did not attempt to flash ViPER4Android or anything like that. If anyone has, I'd be interested in a comparison.
Omineca said:
I've only tried Resurrection Remix, but I noticed that the audio (for music playback, through both the speaker and the headphones) is much better on the stock ROM.
Note that I did not attempt to flash ViPER4Android or anything like that. If anyone has, I'd be interested in a comparison.
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Coz stock ROM has Dirac i guess. In Custom ROM have to use ported Dirac. Next time you wanna try RR, consider that.
Thanks for feedback.:angel:
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No hassle, stability and monthly updates?
I've also got VoLTE & VoWiFi on stock, don't know if custom roms support this...
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^^What he said.
No need for custom ROM for me.
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No Hassle?? I have to dirty flash Stock ROM every update anyway.
Monthly updates are provided by custom ROM.
VoLTE is working in most Custom ROM.
Don't know VoWifi. Never used that.
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Why dirty flashing stock rom ?
Magisk uninstall, reboot, update, TWRP magisk flash, reboot, done
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No Hassle?? I have to dirty flash Stock ROM every update anyway.
Monthly updates are provided by custom ROM.
VoLTE is working in most Custom ROM.
Don't know VoWifi. Never used that.
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That's not very stocklike behavior.
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Coz stock ROM has Dirac i guess. In Custom ROM have to use ported Dirac. Next time you wanna try RR, consider that.
Thanks for feedback.:angel:
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ported dirac? a link please?
The only thing that makes me want to use stock ROM is its Bluetooth headphones behavior. Namely, when I connect my Bluetooth headphones while using a custom ROM, notifications and ringer get redirected to my Bluetooth headphones.
I guess this is what people who use Bluetooth speakers want (so that their phone speaker wouldn't ring unsynchronized with Bluetooth audio), but this means that if I take off my Bluetooth headphones and forget to turn them off, I will miss all my calls and notifications.
For me, this is a huge problem. It's sad that no one else is bothered by this and that there are absolutely no ways to change this.
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Coz stock ROM has Dirac i guess. In Custom ROM have to use ported Dirac. Next time you wanna try RR, consider that.
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I did consider it. At the time, the only information I could find was this thread, this thread, and this one. But this morning, I found this DIRAC port. The post says that the software add-on won't work with Oreo, but the hardware add-on might.
Next time I flash I'll try it, but if anyone else has actually tried this already on the Mi A1 with a custom ROM, I'd be interested in hearing about their experience.
Nobody's talking about how awful the speaker sounds in custom rom compared to stock? The fact that the sound is tinny, shallow and lacking any sort of bass
The second thing is microphone. It's atrocious compared to stock
And also, battery life on stock is absolutely better than custom roms. Custom roms are great but not in terms of stability.
berezker said:
Nobody's talking about how awful the speaker sounds in custom rom compared to stock? The fact that the sound is tinny, shallow and lacking any sort of bass.
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I agree and I mentioned above that the sound from the speaker and headphones was better on the stock ROM.
berezker said:
And also, battery life on stock is absolutely better than custom roms. Custom roms are great but not in terms of stability
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I regularly get over 7 hours of SOT (no gaming) on the stock ROM. Are you finding the custom ROMs much better than that?
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I agree and I mentioned above that the sound from the speaker and headphones was better on the stock ROM.
I regularly get over 7 hours of SOT (no gaming) on the stock ROM. Are you finding the custom ROMs much better than that?
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SoT is subjective but overall, my most SoT was on stock roms (I once reached 11 hrs of SoT but that was very light usage, youtube, telegram, instagram, etc...) I would get 1-3 hrs less battery on custom roms
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Hi all! Here you can share what ROMs you use on the Moto X Play device. Why have you chosen that ROM, what's the name? And if you want link the download for other users to see! :good:
RR - Best stability, Best customistaion
XDrom, for privacy reasons
1) rr
2) krexus
3) tesla
4) xosp
all with multirom
Just for fun, I'm a flashaholic.
I use XOSP ROM at the moment as big fan of sony xperia software. Might try some of your suggestions as well though.
Custom Rom: RR the best, stability,customitation,battery life!!
Stock Rom: Epsilon v1 : stability like a stock with included squid kernel
Its so personal. I like it simple and clean. Stock or debloated roms only. Mostly i get lost in all the extra settings and menu's and realize I never gonna use and need all this extra stuff that ruins my sot and return to stock the next day.
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Its so personal. I like it simple and clean. Stock or debloated roms only. Mostly i get lost in all the extra settings and menu's and realize I never gonna use and need all this extra stuff that ruins my sot and return to stock the next day.
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I find that as well, although have started experimenting with those settings. I am now experimenting with the Resurrection Remix ROM. You should definitely check and experiment with the settings at some point.
K.khiladi said:
RR - Best stability, Best customistaion
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Yes, I am now using and testing the ROM.
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Yes, I am now using and testing the ROM.
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Yup, its the most feature rich rom. Happy experimenting. Why i chose RR is because there are no bugs for me like the camera hdr bug or inability to store to sd card through inbuilt cam. Also its officially supported by themes.
Stock ROM with Xposed because I like the stability and battery life is good.
Cyanogenmod 13 and RR are good but their battery is really bad,im on stock and is the best.
i always end up back on stock + xposed on all phones i got .
For me the best is plain CM13. Has all the features I use and more and most roms use it as basis for varous thins like security updates.
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Yup, its the most feature rich rom. Happy experimenting. Why i chose RR is because there are no bugs for me like the camera hdr bug or inability to store to sd card through inbuilt cam. Also its officially supported by themes.
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What's the SOT are you getting with RR v5.6.9 above 5h?
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What's the SOT are you getting with RR v5.6.9 above 5h?
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I don't give heed to SOT now. Although it between 5+ hrs i guess.
AICP. 'Cos the OTA update works, and the nighties mostly keep up with the latest CM13 updates. And AICP Extras!
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I was trupure and had it for months but since its not being updated i wanted to try something new. please and thank you
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I was trupure and had it for months but since its not being updated i wanted to try something new. please and thank you
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I am too.. Think I'm returning to stock rom 6.0.1
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I was trupure and had it for months but since its not being updated i wanted to try something new. please and thank you
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been running CM13 (+xposed) for a few months after TruPure... works fine... Moto gestures work... and I even use Moto Camera...
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I am too.. Think I'm returning to stock rom 6.0.1
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You mean V3 of Sabissimo's rom?
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urimevs509 said:
been running CM13 (+xposed) for a few months after TruPure... works fine... Moto gestures work... and I even use Moto Camera...
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But no Moto Voice right? You can't use Google Now or anything with the screen off and NOT charging? And you don't mean Moto gestures... its baked into CM's settings/options?
unitz0mbie said:
I was trupure and had it for months but since its not being updated i wanted to try something new. please and thank you
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Dirty Unicorn has been rock solid and I suggest staying away from CM based roms as they tend to have issues. Staying with AOSP based roms will give you better stability and Dirty offers a lot of options and features that limits your need for Xposed.
You can see the Dirty Unicorn XDA thread, but that is limited as it is just a dropping off point. you are better using their Google+ community.
https://plus.google.com/communities/109738128866939227235
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You mean V3 of Sabissimo's rom?
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But no Moto Voice right? You can't use Google Now or anything with the screen off and NOT charging? And you don't mean Moto gestures... its baked into CM's settings/options?
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Yes sabissimos rom.. Have you tried it before? I've been a Tru pure user since the early updates but that as stop now and I don't wanna give up my mtxp just yet
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Yes sabissimos rom.. Have you tried it before? I've been a Tru pure user since the early updates but that as stop now and I don't wanna give up my mtxp just yet
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Everyone's talk about data/wifi/bluetooth issues has scared me away from trying V3.
Bwangster12 said:
Everyone's talk about data/wifi/bluetooth issues has scared me away from trying V3.
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Daam. So what are my other options lol.. Guess I have to go back to factory stock
I prefer CM 13 ROM above all other ROMs.
Try them all and decide for yourself. DU is by far more reliable and feature filled than cm. I ran cm for a few days but in the end pound for pound DU for me outperforms cm.
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Cdub1976 said:
Try them all and decide for yourself. DU is by far more reliable and feature filled than cm. I ran cm for a few days but in the end pound for pound DU for me outperforms cm.
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However there is any information about how well the hal3 enable mod works on that ROM...how manual can we get with the cameras nor if the ROM comes with some ported camera app
Two ROMs that I've had the best luck with are DU and Orion.
Orion has issues with the microphone. It seems to have low sensitivity so I have to talk really loud in call and even when using google speech to text I have to speak up. Others have had issues with MMS but it seemed fine to me.
DU seemed to have significant battery drain and random reboots on 10.6. Using 10.5 seems to solve both of these issues so for now DU 10.5 has been my daily driver.
Both are great ROMs and are both AOSP based. Resurrection Remix I've also used for a while but also had microphone issues which was a dealbreaker for me.
Best ROM for me. I'm on the February update.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mot...rom-stock-rooted-debloated-x1575-6-0-t3262242
I also disabled google kboard after flashing
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x-style/themes-apps/zip-aosp-keyboard-arm64-t3344355
Since I'm running Stock ( MPHS24.49-18-4 (May 1, 16) Security Patch) with Chainfire's SystemLess Root http://www.xda-developers.com/chainfire-releases-root-for-android-6-0-without-modifying-system/, I have absolutely NO PROBLEMS with anything ( a bit bumpy in the beginning but working great ). I have been running flawlessly since I got my MOTO X Pure (2015) from SWAPPA https://swappa.com/. I LOVE THIS PHONE!!! and now will be even better https://motorola-blog.blogspot.com/2016/10/n-is-for-nougat-android-70-is-coming-to.html?m=1, I just can't wait until June of 2017, or whenever MOTO/Lenovo pushes it out..
I have tried most of them (with TruePure being the best "custom" rom) and found that stock with root,xposed/gravitybox, and substratum is the best hands down. I mean honestly, with stock and gravitybox and using substratum in legacy RRO mode really does everything a custom rom does cleanly and bug free. I just recently fastboot flashed the current Sept factory image from Moto coming from TruPure, flashed TWRP, rooted, and set up exposed. The latest radio is already performing better than on TruPure, and the performance/battery is identical. I'd highly recommend this to anyone that's been running custom for a while. A nice factory image flash updates ALL of your partitions to the current build and I am truly seeing better signal performance (I am on verizon) from the "band 12 fix" radio that was really the only latest flashable radio for us.
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Since I'm running Stock ( MPHS24.49-18-4 (May 1, 16) Security Patch) with Chainfire's SystemLess Root http://www.xda-developers.com/chainfire-releases-root-for-android-6-0-without-modifying-system/, I have absolutely NO PROBLEMS with anything ( a bit bumpy in the beginning but working great ). I have been running flawlessly since I got my MOTO X Pure (2015) from SWAPPA https://swappa.com/. I LOVE THIS PHONE!!! and now will be even better https://motorola-blog.blogspot.com/2016/10/n-is-for-nougat-android-70-is-coming-to.html?m=1, I just can't wait until June of 2017, or whenever MOTO/Lenovo pushes it out..
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Can u provide link to the latest stock rom mentioned
I think you can grab it here... https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1t...FJjRV8tMk1LRFU
I have tried various different custom ROMs such as DU, TruPure, Orion, AICP and found TruPure to be the most stable and Orion to be the fastest. However, TruPure started having very noticeable lag so I switched to Orion and the speed difference was night and day. However my one and only issue with Orion was that WIFI was incredibly slow. I constantly had to toggle wifi on off to get the speed back. I found this issue in DU and AICP also.
Now I am running the 6.0 Sabissimo V1 and Wifi is back to normal. Its sad becasue Orion was fantastic in its speed and customization! I really miss the little features such as adding date on status bar, % only battery sign, killall option when recents menu opened, and etc.
I just want stock rom stability with system customizations such as % only battery sign & the killall option when recents menu opened. I dont care for themes at all
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I have tried various different custom ROMs such as DU, TruPure, Orion, AICP and found TruPure to be the most stable and Orion to be the fastest. However, TruPure started having very noticeable lag so I switched to Orion and the speed difference was night and day. However my one and only issue with Orion was that WIFI was incredibly slow. I constantly had to toggle wifi on off to get the speed back. I found this issue in DU and AICP also.
Now I am running the 6.0 Sabissimo V1 and Wifi is back to normal. Its sad becasue Orion was fantastic in its speed and customization! I really miss the little features such as adding date on status bar, % only battery sign, killall option when recents menu opened, and etc.
I just want stock rom stability with system customizations such as % only battery sign & the killall option when recents menu opened. I dont care for themes at all
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The ROM you mentioned is an AOSP I imagine. Any pratfalls with AOSP? There's always it seems that doesn't work.
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TruPure... everything works
Have been on true pure since day one... Great stability and speed. Can anyone recommend anything else though? Am looking for a reason to try something new.
As title says , all I really care about is stability and speed. Thx
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Cowbell_Guy said:
Have been on true pure since day one... Great stability and speed. Can anyone recommend anything else though? Am looking for a reason to try something new.
As title says , all I really care about is stability and speed. Thx
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If you're looking for a 7.1 ROM, try out dirty unicorns. They are not on XDA, but they have a Google+ page and a website with downloads for Clark. It is one of the most stable ROMS right know for this device. If you wanna stay on marshmallow I'm pretty sure Tru pure is still a great ROM, and you probably wouldn't wanna change.
I've gone back to stock with this device as every custom rom that I have tried has had some issue or another, making them unstable. The Brazilian stock nougat TWRP backup that is available on this forum is working surprisingly well on my device, an XT1572 being used in the UK.
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If you're looking for a 7.1 ROM, try out dirty unicorns. They are not on XDA, but they have a Google+ page and a website with downloads for Clark. It is one of the most stable ROMS right know for this device. If you wanna stay on marshmallow I'm pretty sure Tru pure is still a great ROM, and you probably wouldn't wanna change.
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How do work the gestures on DU? Just like on the stock? Worse/better?
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How do work the gestures on DU? Just like on the stock? Worse/better?
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None of the ROM'S do gestures as well as the stock gestures work, such as waving hand to wake the phone..etc..but they still work fairly well. Dirty unicorns also has the other moto gestures such as flip the phone to silence among others.
+1 for dirty unicorns. I'm running on their latest official release and its pretty good.
The latest build of stock 6.0.1 + Root + Xposed.
Stock... pure, untouched stock is the best for stability and speed, no doubt about it.
If you mean what CUSTOM rom is best, BrokenOS for MM or Dirty Unicorns for Nougat... Both are good, but neither one is as stable as stock.
Tesla.
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Tesla.
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After testing Tesla, DU, RR, crDrpid, and tipsy, I can say DU is best nougat ROM and like @acejavelin said BrokenOS is best Marshmallow ROM
I also agree that stock untouched is best way to go besides custom ROMs
i am using AISP rom and it is working well so far. Fast and smooth so far with huge amount of apps in background, also phone is not overhearting
no bootlops, no crashes etc
Ok, I guess I should probably flash a stock rom image then... Where can I find an official link?
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Cowbell_Guy said:
Ok, I guess I should probably flash a stock rom image then... Where can I find an official link?
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/mo...de-return-to-stock-relock-bootloader-t3489110
https://firmware.center/firmware/Motorola/
Don't use the one directly from Moto/Lenovo, it is actually the original MM release from 2015
fliperpl said:
i am using AISP rom and it is working well so far. Fast and smooth so far with huge amount of apps in background, also phone is not overhearting
no bootlops, no crashes etc
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I'm using AICP (which I'm assuming you mean) too and I love it. I tried to go back to a stock based ROM and I hated it. It's very fast and has been extremely stable for me.
ccic2491 said:
I'm using AICP (which I'm assuming you mean) too and I love it. I tried to go back to a stock based ROM and I hated it. It's very fast and has been extremely stable for me.
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I'm thinking this post should be marked as solved by OP, as he has said he would flash a stock image. All the other custom ROMs mentioned are great choices too though!
ccic2491 said:
I'm using AICP (which I'm assuming you mean) too and I love it. I tried to go back to a stock based ROM and I hated it. It's very fast and has been extremely stable for me.
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yeah AICP
also i flashed govtuner balanced version and art optimization with magisk, so far so good but i need to test battery uptime with that tweaks
fliperpl said:
yeah AICP
also i flashed govtuner balanced version and art optimization with magisk, so far so good but i need to test battery uptime with that tweaks
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OPwas looking for stability and speed, and DU and BrokenOS have been found to be most stable and smooth ROM's out there, if OP does not want stock. @Cowbell_Guy should mark this post as solved so far @acejavelin has hit the nail on the head for what the OP asked.
I triedAOSP and Lineage OS. But both of them showed the fading and discoloration of the screen during boot, meaning that they were compatible. I am currently downloading the Stock firmware but would like to know whether there are any better ROMs out there than these.
Edit: The stock firmware is giving invalid zip error.
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I triedAOSP and Lineage OS. But both of them showed the fading and discoloration of the screen during boot, meaning that they were compatible. I am currently downloading the Stock firmware but would like to know whether there are any better ROMs out there than these.
Edit: The stock firmware is giving invalid zip error.
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Have you installed Lollypop (5.1.1) before trying the ROMs?
American_Jesus said:
Have you installed Lollypop (5.1.1) before trying the ROMs?
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No, I have not. Should I flash a Marshmallow ROM first?
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No, I have not. Should I flash a Marshmallow ROM first?
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No, read OP, you need Lollypop firmware, just install 5.1 then install this Ron or any time that requires firmware 5.1
You also need recovery compatible with 5.1 like TWRP from Vince (OFFICIAL TWRP) you can download from TWRP site https://twrp.me/devices/j5lte.html
It all depends, if you want to have great camera or you are into taking pictures, never flash AOSP roms, because their camera is a loot worst compared to touchwiz camera (samsungs camera app is optimized like hell)
If you are curious and want to unveil your phone's power I suggest you AOSP/Lineage based ROMs.
Camera isn't enhanced as stock propietary crapwiz one, but works fine. If you love pictures, better you go with a pro Cybershot camera or similar.
I prefer paying the price of freedom and use free software than stay tied to proprietary closed source crapwiz.
does volte and lte work on any custom roms?
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does volte and lte work on any custom roms?
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LTE works on all Custom Roms but not Volte.
AndroiDTechi said:
LTE works on all Custom Roms but not Volte.
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does volte work on any non-nougat based roms?
benedict97 said:
does volte work on any non-nougat based roms?
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Yup it almost works on all Samsung MM based Custom Roms or Ports like A5UX Rom , J2UX Rom etc.
Im also pretty keen to know what ROM you guys think is most suitable ? I am currently using stock 5.1.1 rom on J500F, anything better out there ? Would doing a factory reset on stock 5.1.1 and removing bloatware maybe be the best ? Not trying to hijack the thread but as mentioned im also looking for something as stable with less bloatware and better battery life. Thank You !
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Im also pretty keen to know what ROM you guys think is most suitable ? I am currently using stock 5.1.1 rom on J500F, anything better out there ? Would doing a factory reset on stock 5.1.1 and removing bloatware maybe be the best ? Not trying to hijack the thread but as mentioned im also looking for something as stable with less bloatware and better battery life. Thank You !
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You can't get better battery life than stock lollipop + hard debloat, period.
Lollipop is the best for me, plus camera sucks on all custom roms
the smoothest rom is XeonHD , and AOSPextended both are extremely optimized except the camera is not that good , if you don't take pics often i suggest that you install either of them
AOSP-CAF based, are the goods. XenonHD is the better Lineage based rom. You have many options to choose one that fits your needs. Camera is fine, I don't complain about that, You should try to choose the better one that fits your needs.
Ragazzza said:
You can't get better battery life than stock lollipop + hard debloat, period.
Lollipop is the best for me, plus camera sucks on all custom roms
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Thanks for the reply Ragazzza, could i ask which method you used to debloat ? Also did you possibly install a custom recovery and root the phone ?
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wadhah1000 said:
the smoothest rom is XeonHD , and AOSPextended both are extremely optimized except the camera is not that good , if you don't take pics often i suggest that you install either of them
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AOSP-CAF based, are the goods. XenonHD is the better Lineage based rom. You have many options to choose one that fits your needs. Camera is fine, I don't complain about that, You should try to choose the better one that fits your needs.
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Picture quality is extremely important for me, i am leaning towards stock.
Have you ran into any problems with XenonHD Taivo ? You say the camera is fine, do you mean its not that much worse than with the stock rom but a little bit of a degradation ? Thanx
i didn't run into any problem in xeon an excellent rom , i recommend it
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i didn't run into any problem in xeon an excellent rom , i recommend it
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i could always give them both a try, you guys recommend this method to debloat ? https://www.xda-developers.com/uninstall-carrier-oem-bloatware-without-root-access/
Then just need a recovery that will work with stock and XeonHD rom
TeddyDroid said:
i could always give them both a try, you guys recommend this method to debloat ? https://www.xda-developers.com/uninstall-carrier-oem-bloatware-without-root-access/
Then just need a recovery that will work with stock and XeonHD rom
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@Ragazzza debloat zip is very nice if you're in stock. XenonHD satisfied me, very nice and smooth ROM. You should give a try to test by yourself. My better pictures I got with my Cybershot camera. Pictures are fine for daily use, and you have Vince's TWRP that works in lollipop and marshmallow, you choose the correct for your device. And from within TWRP you could debloat too, using the embedded explorer or flashing Ragazzza zip or whatever you want even with no root in your system.
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@Ragazzza debloat zip is very nice if you're in stock. XenonHD satisfied me, very nice and smooth ROM. You should give a try to test by yourself. My better pictures I got with my Cybershot camera. Pictures are fine for daily use, and you have Vince's TWRP that works in lollipop and marshmallow, you choose the correct for your device. And from within TWRP you could debloat too, using the embedded explorer or flashing Ragazzza zip or whatever you want even with no root in your system.
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Thanks Taivotat, im going to give it a try when my warranty is up, still have a remainder of 4 months, for now i want to backup>factory reset>debloat, anything other than debloat.zip that you recommend on stock rom without twrp ?
TeddyDroid said:
Thanks Taivotat, im going to give it a try when my warranty is up, still have a remainder of 4 months, for now i want to backup>factory reset>debloat, anything other than debloat.zip that you recommend on stock rom without twrp ?
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Without twrp, better you try that no root debloat you show us before..
And if you follow correctly the steps to flash twrp, dont need to be afraid. Its from twrp that you could flash a debloater zip, for example, even without root...
You can stay with stock debloated, twrp and no root.
Hope you understand.
I was thinking of switching to a custom rom (Mainly RR or POSP), but I don't know if I should install a custom rom on 6T.
Any thoughts?
Electric1447 said:
I was thinking of switching to a custom rom (Mainly RR or POSP), but I don't know if I should install a custom rom on 6T.
Any thoughts?
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Why?
What are you trying to do?
tech_head said:
Why?
What are you trying to do?
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Idk, I just like customizing my phone to the extreme.
Electric1447 said:
Idk, I just like customizing my phone to the extreme.
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Stock or Stock Beta with EdXposed and some Magisk modules.
Let's you do almost anything you can with a custom ROM.
Until recently custom ROMs didn't support the FP scanner.
tech_head said:
Stock or Stock Beta with EdXposed and some Magisk modules.
Let's you do almost anything you can with a custom ROM.
Until recently custom ROMs didn't support the FP scanner.
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I tried EdXposed and it is unstable AF and magisk modules just fix some annoyances.
If you are on Verizon, as of now 4-23-19, no custom ROM appears to support MMS. Except for Havoc, and even then, crappy picture quality has been reported.
So I'm going to go back to oos9013. Which is a major pain in the butt because I have to format my internal SD and use a USB drive to revert to the March security patch...
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I tried EdXposed and it is unstable AF and magisk modules just fix some annoyances.
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Interesting.
I'm using TWRP 3.3.0, Beta 8, Magisk 19, ElementalX 3.15, Riu Core and Riu EdXposed 0.3.1.2 and my phone is very stable.
I'm also using Nova Prime as my launcher.
I get 0 force closes. No random reboots.
Currently my phone has been up for 2 days and 10 hours.
My phone only reboots only when I manually reboot.
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Interesting.
I'm using TWRP 3.3.0, Beta 8, Magisk 19, ElementalX 3.15, Riu Core and Riu EdXposed 0.3.1.2 and my phone is very stable.
I'm also using Nova Prime as my launcher.
I get 0 force closes. No random reboots.
Currently my phone has been up for 2 days and 10 hours.
My phone only reboots only when I manually reboot.
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Used the exact same setup and it was stable (however it was like 2 moths ago)
I was (and still probably am) a ROM flashaholic, but for the first time I've been very happy with stock OOS.
I may install a custom ROM in the future (probably Omni or Havoc) but users always seem to report some bug, whether it's big or small.
I haven't had any issues on OOS so I could very well end up sticking with it. Only downside is having to reboot to see Substratum overlays, but no where near a deal breaker.
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I was (and still probably am) a ROM flashaholic, but for the first time I've been very happy with stock OOS.
I may install a custom ROM in the future (probably Omni or Havoc) but users always seem to report some bug, whether it's big or small.
I haven't had any issues on OOS so I could very well end up sticking with it. Only downside is having to reboot to see Substratum overlays, but no where near a deal breaker.
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I've been having issues with substratum. Do you think you could help?
Electric1447 said:
I was thinking of switching to a custom rom (Mainly RR or POSP), but I don't know if I should install a custom rom on 6T.
Any thoughts?
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Nope! And this is coming from a retired ROM Dev. I would keep stock and root it. If I were to make a no nonsense ROM it would be pretty identical to the stock ROM.
And this is not a dis to any ROM Dev either.
davids_laughter said:
I've been having issues with substratum. Do you think you could help?
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I can try. What issues?
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I can try. What issues?
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Nevermind. I went over to the Substratum forums and found my answer. Thanks!
reaper000 said:
If you are on Verizon, as of now 4-23-19, no custom ROM appears to support MMS. Except for Havoc, and even then, crappy picture quality has been reported.
So I'm going to go back to oos9013. Which is a major pain in the butt because I have to format my internal SD and use a USB drive to revert to the March security patch...
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Who uses MMS? That's so 2010 ?
No for real, is that still being used? I live in the Netherlands. Nobody uses that anymore since there are much better apps for that nowadays....
I'd rather keep the OEM developers of the phone updating my stable stock firmware well over some stranger online that does it as a hobby.
Pros and cons of custom rom on 6T
Pros:
- Slight interface change (OOS is very similar to AOSP)
- AOD
- Volume rocker music controls
- UI customization
Cons:
- Jagged rounded corners. OOS has a slight border that's smooths the corners/notch. Every custom rom does not have this and will leave you with choppy corners on the screen.
- FP reader isn't as good. It just hit custom roms and is buggy
- AOSP gestures are 100x worse than OOS
- Only a couple of stable roms. If you want a feature packed rom it will be unstable. If you want a stable rom it will only have 1 feature. There really isn't an in between rom.
I would stay on OOS. Custom roms are slowly dying as stock systems have implemented all the old great custom rom features. You're basically adding a few things to your phone while sacrificing stability honestly.
Artnig said:
I'd rather keep the OEM developers of the phone updating my stable stock firmware well over some stranger online that does it as a hobby.
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Pros and cons of custom rom on 6T
Pros:
- Slight interface change (OOS is very similar to AOSP)
- AOD
- Volume rocker music controls
- UI customization
Cons:
- Jagged rounded corners. OOS has a slight border that's smooths the corners/notch. Every custom rom does not have this and will leave you with choppy corners on the screen.
- FP reader isn't as good. It just hit custom roms and is buggy
- AOSP gestures are 100x worse than OOS
- Only a couple of stable roms. If you want a feature packed rom it will be unstable. If you want a stable rom it will only have 1 feature. There really isn't an in between rom.
I would stay on OOS. Custom roms are slowly dying as stock systems have implemented all the old great custom rom features. You're basically adding a few things to your phone while sacrificing stability honestly.
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+1
It's kinda personal preferences but I'll stay with stock OOS
tech_head said:
Interesting.
I'm using TWRP 3.3.0, Beta 8, Magisk 19, ElementalX 3.15, Riu Core and Riu EdXposed 0.3.1.2 and my phone is very stable.
I'm also using Nova Prime as my launcher.
I get 0 force closes. No random reboots.
Currently my phone has been up for 2 days and 10 hours.
My phone only reboots only when I manually reboot.
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So you recommend beta over stable builds?
Causical said:
So you recommend beta over stable builds?
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I don't recommend either.
I was on stable ROM and decided to go to Beta based on what I've heard about stability.
I've found my current combination very stable. I've been up 4 days with no unexpected reboots.
ogkillergreen said:
Pros and cons of custom rom on 6T
Pros:
- Slight interface change (OOS is very similar to AOSP)
- AOD
- Volume rocker music controls
- UI customization.
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Agreed with what he said. I'm perfectly content not changing ROMs.
Everything "works" on OOS.
Battery life is stout.
Volume Rocker can control music both with and without root (easier with) with simple app (Button Mapper). He's a dev on here.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=flar2.homebutton&hl=en_US
Good luck having a working finger print reader on any custom ROM. I don't see the point of swapping out the ROM on this phone. I definitely see the points to root vs not root (despite initially not rooting this phone the first few months of ownership).