I have been looking at getting a wondefoo android head unit for my Toyota Sienna. It looks like it has good specs (PX5 chipset, 4gb ram, 32gb storage) and the seller has quite a big selection of HU's on aliexpress for different cars but I can't find that many reviews of wondefoo units as compared to xtrons or seicane. Have any of you tried one of their units before and if so how was it?
I'm also looking at one. I know that this one: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/IPS...pm=a2g0s.13010208.99999999.280.2f743c0098GCRV is MTCD based.
tjhayko said:
I'm also looking at one. I know that this one: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/IPS...pm=a2g0s.13010208.99999999.280.2f743c0098GCRV is MTCD based.
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https://www.aliexpress.com/store/pr...ml?spm=2114.12010612.8148356.2.7eea57f6z1pbG2
I have this one from youmecity on aliexpress and find it to be superior in every way.. My previous one, the one that you are looking at, did not really have Android 8, it was Android 6, hacked to appear as 8. This one is also cheaper and ships free. Got mine in less than a week. Also their customer service is outstanding - they respond same day . I have had several of these Asian units and this is the first one that has been trouble free and is really acceptable, to me.
It also supports an external USB HD of up to 500MB. I have a Samsung 500GB SSD behind the dash and it works fine. I have no complaints and it has been in use since 1-1-2018.
thanks for the reply cardio77.
I was hoping for a unit with volume and tuning knobs, as my Rav4 doesn't have steering wheel controls for the audio. I was also hoping to go with a PX5 SoC as opposed the All Winner.
The hacking to make Android 6 appear as Android 8 is quite worrying though...
tjhayko said:
thanks for the reply cardio77.
I was hoping for a unit with volume and tuning knobs, as my Rav4 doesn't have steering wheel controls for the audio. I was also hoping to go with a PX5 SoC as opposed the All Winner.
The hacking to make Android 6 appear as Android 8 is quite worrying though...
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You could install malaysk rom on that system because it has an sd card slot, which should definitely get you android 8 as far as I know All the systems for the Sienna don't have a sd card slot so unless theres a way to install malaysk rom with usb or an adapter I'm gonna be stuck with the factory firmware.
I have ordered one of these with 4GB RAM and 16GB flash. I will keep everyone posted after it shows up.
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My head unit showed up yesterday, and I opened it today. It looks to be of reasonable quality, other than the word phone being misspelled on the button (lol). However, I've taken a look at the pinouts listed on the sticker on the top of the unit, and it appears the wiring harness is missing the wires for Canbus. Am I correct to assume that these would be the wires for steering wheel audio controls? I don't have them in my car, but I was considering adding one of the aftermarket ones.
Here's a link to photo with of the back of harness, front of the harness and pinouts on the unit:
back of harness
front of harness
pinouts
Is there a way I could wire them up myself?
I have one in my Alfa Romeo 159 with Malaysk 8.0 Rom installed. All ok, working pretty good.
Ah, I've realized that steering wheel remotes use the Key1 and Key2 lines. What's the best way to tap into these the wires in the harness?
Does anybody know where I should tap into wires for the following connections? They are on my harness, but I'm not sure where to connect them:
Amp-con - amplifier control
Ant
Tv-ir = ?
Back-car - reverse signal
Auto-ant - auto antenna power
Brake-ctl - hand break signal
Not a great start with this unit so far. I can't seem to enable WiFi on it, and when I look in the advanced network settings, the MAC address looks like it doesn't have a WiFi adapter at all.
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Haven't had any trouble with WIFi
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Not a great start with this unit so far. I can't seem to enable WiFi on it, and when I look in the advanced network settings, the MAC address looks like it doesn't have a WiFi adapter at all.
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I now have 2 of them and no problems with wifi at all. The WiFi setting is on the home screen of both of mine, as is bluetooth. Settings can also be pulled down from the top of the screen just like any android phone. WiFi reception is much better than on my previous Joying HU. It is not 802.11 AC but 30~ 40 MBPS from about 60 feet from my access point in the house. I also found that you can use an ethernet to USB adapter for much faster results for downloading software and updates. I just run a cable out the door into the car and I get 400 MBPS +.
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Not a great start with this unit so far. I can't seem to enable WiFi on it, and when I look in the advanced network settings, the MAC address looks like it doesn't have a WiFi adapter at all.
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the Bluetooth isn't working either. I suspect I've gotten defective unit. I'm following up with the seller.
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I now have 2 of them and no problems with wifi at all. The WiFi setting is on the home screen of both of mine, as is bluetooth. Settings can also be pulled down from the top of the screen just like any android phone. WiFi reception is much better than on my previous Joying HU. It is not 802.11 AC but 30~ 40 MBPS from about 60 feet from my access point in the house. I also found that you can use an ethernet to USB adapter for much faster results for downloading software and updates. I just run a cable out the door into the car and I get 400 MBPS +.
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Yeah, I had no trouble finding the setting to turn wifi on, but it won't turn on when I tap on the button. I suspect the wifi and Bluetooth are defective.
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Yeah, I had no trouble finding the setting to turn wifi on, but it won't turn on when I tap on the button. I suspect the wifi and Bluetooth are defective.
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The seller says the wifi board (chip?) maybe unseated and is going to send me a video showing how to reset it. I hope that this is the problem and I can fix it.
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Well, I finally got a chance to get the head unit out of my car today to try to reseat the board, and it appears to have worked. I'm surprised because it really didn't feel out of place at all, but it seems to be working fine now.
well, the Wifi failed again, so I tried the same thing, and it now appears that the screen is messed up. I've done a quick check of the ribbon cables connecting the screen to boards, and nothing seems out of place. Here's a photo of the screen now
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/R...oH3OjNrPum2T2aVJdLnKcbMyoyYsyPQ=w1152-h679-no
Any idea how what I might have done?
DO NOT TRUST THIS SELLER. It looks like a frauder. I paid a navigation and after 1 mount the item is not even shipped. Now i am trying to get my moeny back.
Hey guys!
Been looking at a lot of android units, but have narrowed it down to two, one being a Wondefoo. The listing says the mic won't work with 'OK Google' etc. only for Bluetooth. Can anyone confirm? Is this the case with all android units?
Thanks in advance.
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Hello, I've recently purchased a new head unit from Pumpkin (RQ0253) and was wondering if anyone else had experience with this unit in terms of custom roms/rooting? I'm looking to possibly install a Malaysk rom. Any advice is appreciated. Specs below:
OS: Android 4.4 Kit Kat
CPU: RK3188 Cortex A9 Quad Core 1.6GHz
RAM: DDR3 2GB
Screen Resolution: 1024*600
MCU: 5703-20160222-135414-V01
Hi!
If i'm right you're talking about this device: http://www.autopumpkin.com/pumpkin-universal-7-inch-1024-600-touchscreen-quad-core-android-4-4-head-unit-2-din-with-2gb-ram-32gb-nand-memory-support-screen-lock-av-output-gps-obd2-wifi-3g-steering-wheel-control.html
I'm wondering how is the audio quality of this device?
Thank you
I regret going with Pumpkin over Joying. Just letting you know.
Joying is already updating units to Android 5 while Pumpkin still hasn't.
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I regret going with Pumpkin over Joying. Just letting you know.
Joying is already updating units to Android 5 while Pumpkin still hasn't.
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Thank you for reply
but what Pumpkin unit do you have? Do you like audio quality? What about handsfree quality? How does unit work with navigation apps, phone calls and internet radio apps?
Thank you
BR
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Thank you for reply
but what Pumpkin unit do you have? Do you like audio quality? What about handsfree quality? How does unit work with navigation apps, phone calls and internet radio apps?
Thank you
BR
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I've the new with Parrot-BT. It is as bad as other units. Reason is simple, they still connect front and external mics in parallel.
Weather widget stopped working. They are still struggling to get a new one. Remember Pumpkin is just a reseller.
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I've the new with Parrot-BT. It is as bad as other units. Reason is simple, they still connect front and external mics in parallel.
Weather widget stopped working. They are still struggling to get a new one. Remember Pumpkin is just a reseller.
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Thank you for the info!
What exact model do you have?
Thanx
BR
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Thank you for the info!
What exact model do you have?
Thanx
BR
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So this is the unit: http://www.autopumpkin.com/pumpkin-...t-dab-mirrorlink-aux-output-obd2-wifi-3g.html
But if it's only these 2 bad things - microphones and weather widget? Is there no possibility to disable the internal microphone? You unit has only 1GB of RAM. Don't you think that the unit with 2GB of RAM will work better?
How is the quality of the music you play via this unit?
I'm asking all these question because i'd like to buy the HU such Clarion or Pioneer, but there is no such unit which will be Android base Like there are Sony TV for example, working on Android
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So this is the unit: http://www.autopumpkin.com/pumpkin-...t-dab-mirrorlink-aux-output-obd2-wifi-3g.html
But if it's only these 2 bad things - microphones and weather widget? Is there no possibility to disable the internal microphone? You unit has only 1GB of RAM. Don't you think that the unit with 2GB of RAM will work better?
How is the quality of the music you play via this unit?
I'm asking all these question because i'd like to buy the HU such Clarion or Pioneer, but there is no such unit which will be Android base Like there are Sony TV for example, working on Android
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Well, I've other units with 2 GB I can't find any difference. Go ahead and buy the Pioneer which has similar to android auto and you can run all your
apps from the phone. The only problem for me is that it's too expensive.
Sounds like all the rest, no high fidelity that's for sure. The only way to get all these units fair is to perform the mods. BT-mod and sound mod. You say, bad BT only.
Well if you can't use it in your car it's worthless. I've tried all the different ways, only front, only external, only front modified with external mic and so on. No improvement compared to the BT-mod.
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Well, I've other units with 2 GB I can't find any difference. Go ahead and buy the Pioneer which has similar to android auto and you can run all your
apps from the phone. The only problem for me is that it's too expensive.
Sounds like all the rest, no high fidelity that's for sure. The only way to get all these units fair is to perform the mods. BT-mod and sound mod. You say, bad BT only.
Well if you can't use it in your car it's worthless. I've tried all the different ways, only front, only external, only front modified with external mic and so on. No improvement compared to the BT-mod.
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Pioneer doesn't have android unit. The only way is to connect the phone with the cable, and i hate cables in the car Regarding the BT - yep, sounds like a problem...
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but what Pumpkin unit do you have? Do you like audio quality? What about handsfree quality? How does unit work with navigation apps, phone calls and internet radio apps?
Thank you
BR
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If you want my brutally honest opinion, don't buy a Chinese Android head unit. Spend a little more for something else.
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If you want my brutally honest opinion, don't buy a Chinese Android head unit. Spend a little more for something else.
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I'd like☺, but i want to get unit, that can can run Waze and Internet radio. Till now I didn't find such unit... For some reason well known companies don't use android in audio devices... Any ideas?
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I'd like, but i want to get unit, that can can run Waze and Internet radio. Till now I didn't find such unit... For some reason well known companies don't use android in audio devices... Any ideas?
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I thought the same way until I actually spent the money for one. They are not reliable. The Android OS on them are dinosaurs. Constant crashes. If you do not upload a custom rom the crashes will only get worse.
My advice, get the pioneer Android auto unit (dont know exact model) and have it mirror your phone. Then run waze and whatever off your phone instead.
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I'd like, but i want to get unit, that can can run Waze and Internet radio. Till now I didn't find such unit... For some reason well known companies don't use android in audio devices... Any ideas?
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Well, Blaupunkt does.
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Well, Blaupunkt does.
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Thanx! Looks interesting, but as i see i doesn't have google apps, so there is a problem to install applications... At list out of the box... I think that better way is to wait till someone else will start with Android based device. like Sony doing with TV...
did anyone ever get the Pumpkin 12-RQ0253-US-A ? it's one of the few I see with 2 gigs of RAM
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did anyone ever get the Pumpkin 12-RQ0253-US-A ? it's one of the few I see with 2 gigs of RAM
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I got this head from Ali (I cannot post links yet, you can find it by "RQ0253+Y0801" keyword) and installed it a few days ago. Works fine, but it doesn't have a bluetooth host - you cannot connect bluetooth devices to it. You only can pair media bluetooth from your phone and cast calls and music to the head. This is pretty disappointing. I wouldn't order this head if knew that before. Haven't installed rear camera yet, maybe there are more surprises awaiting.
Sound quality is OK to me (I'm not an audiophile), a device is pretty responsive. 32G is plenty of space for apps, plus 2 SD cards for music, plus 2 (potentially, 3) usb ports.
I will post more feedback when test it closer.
Feel free to ask if you have any specific questions.
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I got this head from Ali (I cannot post links yet, you can find it by "RQ0253+Y0801" keyword) and installed it a few days ago. Works fine, but it doesn't have a bluetooth host - you cannot connect bluetooth devices to it. You only can pair media bluetooth from your phone and cast calls and music to the head. This is pretty disappointing. I wouldn't order this head if knew that before. Haven't installed rear camera yet, maybe there are more surprises awaiting.
Sound quality is OK to me (I'm not an audiophile), a device is pretty responsive. 32G is plenty of space for apps, plus 2 SD cards for music, plus 2 (potentially, 3) usb ports.
I will post more feedback when test it closer.
Feel free to ask if you have any specific questions.
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i would like to see pics if you get the chance
I got this unit, too. I flashed joying update file and now it doesn't get pass the android logo. On top that, when I boot into recovery, unable to load. I'm sending this unit back and will be getting Carjoying.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBuOQByUfTI
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Okay, some impressions:
Pros:
- Device is fast. It lags a bit only during software update, as any android does
- Screen is bright. Map and navigation are clearly visible under direct sunlight right into the screen.
- Surprisingly usable pre-installed offline navigation (iGO). Interface is ugly, but in general it is ok
- 32 gig is a lot of space. SD card is needed only for music
- Sound via bluetooth is good
Cons:
- Bluetooth is limited by regular speakers/headset. I cannot connect any device to the head unit, I can only cast music and phone calls from my phone and that's all. Android just doesn't see any bluetooth adapter in the system. I can make calls using special application, sound from the phone just play when it's connected. Only one phone can be connected at the same time.
- Internal sound is very bad. I'm not an audiophile, but I've tried to play the same song from the soundcloud app from my phone via bluetooth and then from the head directly. I will probably never play music from the head unit, it is awful. Same for music from files on flash drives/sd card
- Screen frame is quite high, so I can't see some google maps interface elements (miles to next turn, top left corner)
- There's 2 mm gap between the unit and my Nissan's dash cover in the bottom. I will handle this later.
- Bad screen sensitivity in the lower part of the screen, some Ok/Cancel buttons are not responsive while installing software. Maybe, because of android lags. In the maps application touchscreen works fine everywhere.
- Android 4.4 interface is ugly to me. I'd prefer 5.
Conclusion: DO NOT BUY IT, unless you know what you are doing. Limited bluetooth looks a deal breaker to me. None of my 2 bluetooth adapters worked with the android. And without full-featured bluetooth I can't connect OBD2 and set up screen mirroring.
I'll try to send it back, but it might be too expensive and not worth it. Anyway, I keep searching for unit with good sound and full featured bluetooth (and bigger screen resolution, but I haven't seen such units so far)
I haven't attached rear camera yet. I will update this post as soon as I do.
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here the two radio I am Looking at
joying JY-UL135
SKU: JY-UL134
. Quad Core Android 5.1.1 Lollipop OS Capacitive 10.1" Big Touch screen for Double Din
. CPU: RK3188 1.6GHz Cortex A9 Quad Core, Resolution 1024*600
. RAM：DDR3 1G, 16 GB memory, Black Color
. 9 EQ Equalizer for music
. Support steering wheel control, OBD2
. Built-in GPS navigation, support Google maps, Waze, Sygic, TomTom, Here maps
. Support 9 & more Color Panel Lights
. Bulit-in WiFi, Support 3G/4G/Wifi hotspot sharing, Support 3G Only WCDMA network
. Bulit-in Bluetooth for hand free phone call, Support1080P
. Support car DVR
. Airplay for iPhone 6/6 plus/5/5c/5S/4/4S
. PAL and NTSC Support Rear view camera
. Wireless Screen Mirroring Function( Android phone and iPhone)
. Thickened alumium heat sink and strong unit design
. Built-in Google play store, Apps for Uber...Google Voice
. USB, Auxiliary Input, No SD card.
. FM / AM RDS Radio Data System, Subwoofer, Free External Mic, Free GPS antenna
Erisin ES3646U
Has anyone used this head unit or any review or bad issues with them they look about the same specs
any info would much appreciated
i dont have either, but i like the look of the Joying one better
I got the Joying UL 135 with Lollipop 5.1.1 just installed.
It was a super-easy installation as my old Toyota 4Runner from 2000 had ISO cables installed earlier. Plug&Play!
I have not found anything not working except that I don't know how to clear Bluetooth devices from the list of ones I have once connected and the Bluetooth OBD2 plug is shown as connected even hours after I have unplugged it.
The device is ROOT'ed when it comes.
Android reports: Android 5.1.1, Rk3188 quad core 32 bit @ 1608Mhz, Model 2820H-5.1 J0513, MCU MTCD_JY_V1.49_2 April 28 2016
AnTuTu 3D 6.1.7
Noise in speakers during graphic test. Sounded like a GSM pone disturbance.
Results:
Overall 26479
3D 1117
User Experience 12459
Cpu 9841
Ram 3062
Hey,
I would love to see a photo of your install. I'm currently researching what to do for a 2002 Tacoma (same stereo layout and bezel). I was worried that the curved edges of the bezel would be an issue - was it an easy install for you?
Thanks!!
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Hey,
I would love to see a photo of your install. I'm currently researching what to do for a 2002 Tacoma (same stereo layout and bezel). I was worried that the curved edges of the bezel would be an issue - was it an easy install for you?
Thanks!!
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I've just installed one in a 2007 grand Cherokee. Does anyone know what makes/models of USB 3G/4G dongles work with this unit?
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What is under SD/GPS symbols in left-bottom corner? Producer (JOYING) says "No SD card support"...
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What is under SD/GPS symbols in left-bottom corner? Producer (JOYING) says "No SD card support"...
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Just 2 SD card slots. I have a 32GB in the GPS slot and a 64GB in the other.
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I have a 2013 Durango with the base model 130S/RES base stereo. I've been looking at options to upgrade it as I want something with Navigation built in. Wonder if I'll need anything special to wire this up.
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I have a 2013 Durango with the base model 130S/RES base stereo. I've been looking at options to upgrade it as I want something with Navigation built in. Wonder if I'll need anything special to wire this up.
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130 sounds like a Jeep radio. Chrysler used the same 130/430/730 for Chrysler/Dodge/Jeep for many years.
I had a 430N and replaced it with a Joying jeep specific unit and I love it:
https://smile.amazon.com/Challenger...F8&qid=1471862795&sr=8-1&keywords=joying+jeep
probably would work in the Durango
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Hey, was wondering what your thoughts are on the buttons and the volume knob? I see your unit is recessed a little, just wondering if those controls are easy enough to use?
I have an 06 Civic SI that I'm looking to get one of these for, and that's one of my main concerns. I really like having hardware volume controls.
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Hey, was wondering what your thoughts are on the buttons and the volume knob? I see your unit is recessed a little, just wondering if those controls are easy enough to use?
I have an 06 Civic SI that I'm looking to get one of these for, and that's one of my main concerns. I really like having hardware volume controls.
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HI,
The volume knob is just a rotary encoder which is monitored by the OS so it's implemented in software although the user interface is a piece of physical hardware.
Why are you concerned about this? I don't even use it, I just use the steering wheel controls.
https://youtu.be/9yq4TC5xbhA
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I have not found anything not working except that I don't know how to clear Bluetooth devices from the list of ones I have once connected and the Bluetooth OBD2 plug is shown as connected even hours after I have unplugged it.
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It has to be fitted to be able to delete it from the list.
Yes, I had this issue too until the last software update. Things seem to be a bit quicker and smoother too.
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HI,
The volume knob is just a rotary encoder which is monitored by the OS so it's implemented in software although the user interface is a piece of physical hardware.
Why are you concerned about this? I don't even use it, I just use the steering wheel controls.
https://youtu.be/9yq4TC5xbhA
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Steering wheel controls are fine until you've got the wheel turned. i don't know, just like to be able to reach over without looking and spin a volume knob. just a personal preference.
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Steering wheel controls are fine until you've got the wheel turned. i don't know, just like to be able to reach over without looking and spin a volume knob. just a personal preference.
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i too like to have a volume knob. I use my steering wheel controls, but i also frequently use the knob
Okay, well it's there. The volume can be controlled via the steering wheel, the volume knob and vis the touch screen. A momentary press of the volume knob mutes the system, and 2-3 second press will shut the system down.
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Hi,
I have got the carjoying UL 135 too and I am pretty satisfied.
Nevertheless, sometime I experience incredibly slow operations. When it comes, I have to wait many seconds (10 or 20) when I launch an app like Waze in a way that I can utilize as expected. I use the Rocket icon to clear operating but it is the same. I think 1 GB is not enough.
Have you experienced this?
Hello, I would like to share my experience with my first Android Head Unit (an Intel Sofia Joying JY-VM130N2), installed in my 2009 Volkswagen Passat (B6) in case it works for any one ealse.
I never installed anything like this or related to car audio, but I am familiar with computers an tablets and that sort of things.
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The front panel gets out with your bare hands (but maybe in your case you have to use some kind of prying tool)
As an advice I read many places, don't disconnect the AIRBAG cable in the frame. I just left it hanging.
The radio gets out unscrewing 4 torx screws. You can see there is behind a blue box, and that was a Parrot hand-free that was broken and I had to also remove.
I just disconnected it, connected the Joying unit and voilà (didn't even take pictures of the unplugging/plugging process):
I just installed it with the canbus and disconnecting this cables (which I think other people connects and after they report problems with the unit...):
I had some weird problems with the bluetooth, but it seems to be working perfect now. I can send/receive calls using the Head Unit, and also I have it conected to a cheapo ELM327 bluetooth dongle bought in amazon, and working great with Torque.
Good things about this Joying product:
Cheap, it gave me the opportunity to have a GPS navi system, bluetooth hands free, and other insteresting features a very reasonable price
Installation was really plug&play, as advertised. It took me less than one hour to make the swap (I didn't install any rear cam, or microphone yet, but the unit works decently with the built in microphone).
Cons:
I suspect this unit will not last as an OEM unit, but didn't cost the same neither, I asume that
Not top notch quality here. Some buttons get deleted, the LED color for the buttons is incomplete, and the white LED color is... pinkish. Cheapo, but it works right now...
I had to solve over-heating problems. I installed a heat sink, and a fan, and a modded cover to allow evacuate the heat from the unit.
In any case I would rate this as a 6/10, basically substracting points for some issues as quality endings, terrible English manuals (at least Joying has a very nice collaborative community that makes Joying worth double it deserves). The English manual is simply sad. I had to search in XDA and their carjoying forums/blogs to find out answers I needed to proceed to the installation of the unit.
I demanded a new button that came like scratched or something, or wrongly painted; I hope to see how their after-sales respond.
If you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask. I have some questions I would search the answer and come back here...
Does any body know if I hve my Head Unit paired with my telephone, can the HU use my phone's data plan to navigate or do online stuff?
Can I start SYGIC in the background everytime the Head Units turns on? I live in a place with many speed radars and the main reason I want this unit is to advice me of speed radars in case I get distracted... Now I have to manually start Sygic every time...
How can I improve the radio reception? AM doesn't work at all...
EDIT: I forgot to mention I found it extremely easy to install (AND REMOVE) this units... I think, I could steal this unit in 2 minutes. 3 minutes if I remove the cables carefully and also steal the GPS antenna... Have to do something about it...
EDIT 2: By the way, if you're interested in buying one Joying they have a promotion code 'joyingESP' with a 10% in the Intel unit. I don't know until when that code will work. If you need it, just try to use it and good luck.
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[*]Does any body know if I hve my Head Unit paired with my telephone, can the HU use my phone's data plan to navigate or do online stuff?
[*]Can I start SYGIC in the background everytime the Head Units turns on? I live in a place with many speed radars and the main reason I want this unit is to advice me of speed radars in case I get distracted... Now I have to manually start Sygic every time...
[*]How can I improve the radio reception? AM doesn't work at all...
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1. You need to root and install an Bluetooth tethering app (read on my Q&A or you can install it via @surfer63 app after you root the unit) so every time the phone connects to the unit you have data also from the phone.
If you don't want to root then you can make the phone a wi-fi hotspot for your unit but you need to start the hotspot manually each time you enter the car or do it automatically via additional software from Google store... if you have an Apple I don't know if you can automate this
2. If you use the NoKill Sofia server custom keys mod and you edit the script properly you can start it every time... or there are apps in the Google store that can auto start apps.
3. I have no clue... I rarely use the FM radio... the AM radio I have never used it the last 20 years or so I mainly stream online radios when I want to listen to the radio... the quality is the best, way better than what an FM radio can offer
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1. You need to root and install an Bluetooth tethering app (read on my Q&A or you can install it via @surfer63 app after you root the unit) so every time the phone connects to the unit you have data also from the phone.
If you don't want to root then you can make the phone a wi-fi hotspot for your unit but you need to start the hotspot manually each time you enter the car or do it automatically via additional software from Google store... if you have an Apple I don't know if you can automate this
2. If you use the NoKill Sofia server custom keys mod and you edit the script properly you can start it every time... or there are apps in the Google store that can auto start apps.
3. I have no clue... I rarely use the FM radio... the AM radio I have never used it the last 20 years or so I mainly stream online radios when I want to listen to the radio... the quality is the best, way better than what an FM radio can offer
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I couldn't bluetooth tether, but I think it's due to my old smartphone (android 4.4). It has the option, though, but it seems to not be working properly.
I used tasker to detect when I stablish a bluetooth connection to the Joying head unit, and then I activate WIFI tethering (which the HU detects and connects to).
Thank you for your help though.
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I couldn't bluetooth tether, but I think it's due to my old smartphone (android 4.4). It has the option, though, but it seems to not be working properly.
I used tasker to detect when I stablish a bluetooth connection to the Joying head unit, and then I activate WIFI tethering (which the HU detects and connects to).
Thank you for your help though.
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Install Bluetooth BluetoothTethering.apk from the link below on the headunit and phone and follow the settings from the post fort he headunit and phone.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...elopment/bluetooth-settings-launcher-t3504526
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Install Bluetooth BluetoothTethering.apk from the link below on the headunit and phone and follow the settings from the post fort he headunit and phone.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...elopment/bluetooth-settings-launcher-t3504526
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I tried but couldn`t (got error) because my smartphone is android 4.4 and lbdroid compiled against minimum android 5.1.
I tried to activate bluetooth tethering manually but even though it aparently was ok, the head unit failed to connect to Internet.
Thank you for the advise though.
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I tried but couldn`t (got error) because my smartphone is android 4.4 and lbdroid compiled against minimum android 5.1.
I tried to activate bluetooth tethering manually but even though it aparently was ok, the head unit failed to connect to Internet.
Thank you for the advise though.
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on the phone try this app maybe it works with your android version
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=nu.mine.qos.btautotethering
Just got one of the Binize 7" 2x32 android 9 head units. Not really impressed with it so far.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07VHD4B23/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I also have one of the Podofo 7" 1x16 android 10 2020 versions. Screen looks the same but there are more connectors on the rear. It is much faster. Noticably to the touch. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08GKBQ1X5/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o03_s03?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Are there some better units out there right now I should be looking at?
Really want a DUAL din and able to load offline maps to if for BackCountry Navigator, Google Maps, and a couple others. Maybe use one of my external USB Drives for music videos, music, and other movies.
I just modified the dash of a Discovery 1 to fit a dual din. Now I want a large screen to fit in there to utilize the space I made.
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They are all botched/buggy in someway, but it's not easy to know who makes these units and what they are just from the reseller verbiage.
Like the previous poster says. Pretty much every android head unit has issues. Each one is a different set of issues. Nobody out there seems to be doing proper reviews on these that focus on what does and doesn't work.
I've been through four so far. Every one has issues.
So I tried to switch to a Pioneer and guess what, it has issues too. I'm disgusted with the whole car audio industry. All I want is what's on my phone to be on my dash, without having to whip my phone out of my pocket and wire it up every time I go for a drive.
Apparently that's asking too much of the industry.
Fwiw the features I need/want are:
1. Supports modern digital steering wheel controls (they all seem to only support analog SWC which nobody has)
2. Either have a proper bluetooth phone feature with voice commands and quality audio OR trigger when it detects incoming audio on the aux in from my cars built in bluetooth (currently the best option I've found is I have to tap aux in every time I receive a call)
3. Pair and STAY paired with bluetooth OBD dongle for dashboard data logging. So far not a single one has been able to do this reliably, they tend to disconnect randomly and require constant re-pairing. Best if it supports newer profiles of dongles like the OBDLink which has a faster refresh rate, but so far only one of the four I've tried does that, and it requires repairing every bootup.
4. Have a screen DPI thay doesn't freak out common apps. Some of my apps don't work because of screen DPI issues on some devices.
5. Don't randomly reboot, 2 of the 4 devices I've used have this issue.
6. "Dancing" Gps or GPS that can't get a lock. One device I used the GPS jumps around randomly, the other can't even get a signal half the time.
7. Static/noise/audio problems. One has a hiss, one had loud static when no audio was playing, and another the audio would randomly cut out.
Dunno what I'm gonna do next.
skygear said:
Just got one of the Binize 7" 2x32 android 9 head units. Not really impressed with it so far.
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I'll tell ya.... I'm on my third android head unit (all Dasaita's) and I have not had one yet which produces good clean sound without a low grade white noise (the noise which you are describing). The Dasaita I have now in fact is top of the line... cost $700US and it has the same low grade white noise the rest of them do.
I love these android head units for what you describe.... large screen, good off line maps display, engine data display... yadda yadda. They make really great overall information centers, but they ALL seem to just suck for good clean sound.
At this point I'm really considering running two head units, a double din dasaita with a 10" screen for my information center, tv, videos... etc, and a smaller single din Pioneer or Kenwood for all the audio, and the bluetooth phone connection. This is the only answer that I can see if you want to run an android head unit.... and have clean sound at the same time.
I'd also Like a to have an actual readout of what ALL the connectors are for on the back. If I plug in ALL the connectors they sent. I still have 2 ports which are empty. I can imagine maybe one is for a Wired OBD2 port cable and maybe the others for Environmental controls or steering wheel interface? Wherever these are originating from, they are not including all the features with them. Might put an amplifier on these and see how they perform. The audio isn't the best..
Main issue I had was the Binize keyboard wouldn't show up. I had to factory reset the device to enable it. I am beta testing Android 11 on my Note 20 Ultra 5g. Had NO issues with it until I paired it with this radio. No keyboard would show on my phone either. then the screen froze on my phone. Next, my storage corrupted/ disappeared, then reappeared and the phone reindexed everything so all my media (photos, video, etc. ) is all out of order now since it re scanned.
I'm thinking a USB drive with all the content might be the way to go. But are these really limited to just 32gb external storage? Shouldn't these be able to read ANY external storage formatted properly?
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I'd also Like a to have an actual readout of what ALL the connectors are for on the back. If I plug in ALL the connectors they sent. I still have 2 ports which are empty. I can imagine maybe one is for a Wired OBD2 port cable and maybe the others for
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The extra ports are a little different from machine to machine but Dasaita puts in extra ports for TV, TPMS, DAB, Dashcam, and auxiliary a/v input. You can take a wild guess at the what the inputs are judging by the software which comes on your machine. The dasaita line for example comes with a TV app, TPMS app, DAB apps, A/V in app, and a DashCam app.
Wired obd2 works through usb and will only work with apps (like torque pro) which support usb connections
For what it's worth... I already have (3) external amps connected. 850 watts to the front, 1000 watts to the rear, and 2250 watts to the subs. Still get that low grade white noise.
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The extra ports are a little different from machine to machine but Dasaita puts in extra ports for TV, TPMS, DAB, Dashcam, and auxiliary a/v input. You can take a wild guess at the what the inputs are judging by the software which comes on your machine. The dasaita line for example comes with a TV app, TPMS app, DAB apps, A/V in app, and a DashCam app.
Wired obd2 works through usb and will only work with apps (like torque pro) which support usb connections
For what it's worth... I already have (3) external amps connected. 850 watts to the front, 1000 watts to the rear, and 2250 watts to the subs. Still get that low grade white noise.
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Have you tried putting ground isolators on everything?
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Have you tried putting ground isolators on everything?
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It's not ground loop noise so ground isolators wouldn't do much. This is a low grade white noise like what you would hear from an FM radio when not on a station. Both my PX5 and PX6 have it. It's not very loud... but it's there.
Hello everyone
I have a 2006 Peugeot 407 SW and I installed a 2 din radio with Android. Connected every wire into its place, but I do have a few issues:
First, the private seller didn't told me anything about setting it up. But I managed to find the 6 digit-code accessible settings (what I found it was 000000 through a Google search) where I can setup the right type of canbus for it.
Ok, the canbus device I've been given is a Raise PSA-RZ-15, so thats the one I selected back in the options.
Steering wheel commands do work ok.
When I set the gear to reverse, it tries to obtain the back camera image (I don't have the back camera installed yet, but its ok).
And there are a few numbers in the trip statistics screen, so it gathered the travels I made recently.
But I can hear no sound, either from radio or from USB or Youtube through a wireless connection.
Any ideas? Do I need a different canbus device? Or I just need to select a different device in the advanced settings?
Thanks
If the unit is working then most likely you just connected the wrong wires.
I've got a Peugeot as well, so most likely you will have a similar connector to mine.
There should be a big male type connector for the one you removed from the back of your original radio. You have a female type connector which connects to this big one and the other side which is much smaller, and that connects to the headunit itself. Make sure it's connected together properly and the fastener is closed.
The canbus decoder is for the headunit to be able to communicate with the vehicle canbus. This makes the trip info appear on the screen, and the steering wheel controls to work. The one you have with your unit is usually enough for most people, but there is an upgraded version which can display A/C information and steering wheel angle too(for reversing).
If the steering wheel controls are not working, that's because you need to set the canbus decoder type in the settings. If your exact car type is not listed try something like 308, 408 or Berlingo, or RZC.
Well, I can't just have connected the wrong wires because I did not made any manual connections with the wires. I just plugged everything where they could fit; each connector only has 1 socket to fit. Its like having 1 USB, 1 VGA and 1 Serial ports and connect them all. Can't make it wrong.
As I have said, the steering wheel controls ARE WORKING.
The reverse gear activates the rear camera view.
I just can't hear anything.
In the advanced options panel, the canbus I have selected IS the canbus module I have, but that one refers as being to another vehicle. The one listed as being a 2006 407 Peugeot is actually a Hiworld.
What I want to know is:
Do I need to exchange this Raise and get the Hiworld module or just change this in the options? I tried several Raise ones but none makes the unit plays sound.
marciosilvadesign said:
Hello everyone
I have a 2006 Peugeot 407 SW and I installed a 2 din radio with Android. Connected every wire into its place, but I do have a few issues:
First, the private seller didn't told me anything about setting it up. But I managed to find the 6 digit-code accessible settings (what I found it was 000000 through a Google search) where I can setup the right type of canbus for it.
Ok, the canbus device I've been given is a Raise PSA-RZ-15, so thats the one I selected back in the options.
Steering wheel commands do work ok.
When I set the gear to reverse, it tries to obtain the back camera image (I don't have the back camera installed yet, but its ok).
And there are a few numbers in the trip statistics screen, so it gathered the travels I made recently.
But I can hear no sound, either from radio or from USB or Youtube through a wireless connection.
Any ideas? Do I need a different canbus device? Or I just need to select a different device in the advanced settings?
Thanks
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Is it an MTCD type device.
Post images from Android system information, including MCU version
Is this the information you need?
Not MTCD, requested moderator moves to Android Hesd units forum.
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Thanks for moving this to the correct place.
In fact is a CVD1810 / 8227 system. I have steering wheel controls and reverse camera. Just need to know what canbus to select in the options. The real one I have is Raise PSA RZ 15 and ofc I tried that one. No sound. Tried a bunch of others, no sound.
Do you have a link for the product?
Also, can you take a picture of your old head-unit and the wiring for the new unit?
Ok here ya go.
DSC_0060 is the cable from the car.
DSC_0061 is the cable connected to the canbus.
DSC_0077 is the back of the old unit
About that product link, as I bought it from some guy here in Portugal for a 2 day faster shipping, I don't have any link, but I can provide a link to a very similar unit (and to confirm my idea that the problem is the canbus module, as this following link, the supplied canbus is the one I want to try next). In fact, I have ordered it through Aliexpress and am waiting for it to be delivered and check it out (just the Hiworld module and the cable, not the whole unit).
https://pt.aliexpress.com/item/1005003819208803.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.2cee1e4bACNMwJ&algo_pvid=362fd344-3ddf-4211-ae3d-6f00f102c5fc&algo_exp_id=362fd344-3ddf-4211-ae3d-6f00f102c5fc-7&pdp_ext_f=%7B%22sku_id%22%3A%2212000028318483259%22%7D&pdp_npi=2%40dis%21EUR%21204.34%21110.35%21%21%2120.73%21%21%402101e9d316597902952473367e9883%2112000028318483259%21sea&curPageLogUid=3fg16rPKbO5N&gatewayAdapt=glo2bra
Hello again!
I have an update here:
I ordered the canbus Hiworld W25, wich is apropriate for Peugeot 407, and in fact I can see now all vehicle informations on screen like A/C and such. But the sound is still not coming to the car speakers... I'm starting to believe its a faulty wiring or something from the unit itself...
Another update:
My car has JBL speakers, subwoofer and amplifier. So the regular canbus ordered is not enough. I need a Peugeot 407 with JBL speakers specific canbus. Maybe the Raise PSA RZ 67 will do this?
You need to make sure your audio cable is connected. You can search for installation videos on youtube, about the screen that appears when reversing, you can ask the seller where to set it up, this feature can be turned off.
Bychange said:
You need to make sure your audio cable is connected. You can search for installation videos on youtube, about the screen that appears when reversing, you can ask the seller where to set it up, this feature can be turned off.
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All cables seem connected in their places. What happens, some guy in Peugeot forums sent me this link:
https://pt.aliexpress.com/item/1005004252265202.html?gatewayAdapt=glo2bra
Its a canbus + cable for Peugeot 407, and this cable has a TON of connectors my current cable doesn't. I assume this cable will solve my issue, so maybe I don't need to mess up with the wires.
Hello!
I have received the new canbus + cable, wich I got from here:
https://pt.aliexpress.com/item/1005004252265202.html?spm=a2g0o.order_detail.0.0.4d864c7fNv8ICh&gatewayAdapt=glo2bra
And it actually WORKS! I have sound from the car speakers with the cheap android unit!
The android unit itself, its very very similar to the ones on this product, like the M150S.
Navegação De Gps Do Andróide 11 Para Para Peugeot 407 2004-2011 Vídeo 4g Lte Bt Do Rádio Dos Multimédios Do Carro Nenhum Dvd 2din Carplay Dvr - AliExpress
Hey guys,
marciosilvadesign said:
Hello!
I have received the new canbus + cable, wich I got from here:
https://pt.aliexpress.com/item/1005004252265202.html?spm=a2g0o.order_detail.0.0.4d864c7fNv8ICh&gatewayAdapt=glo2bra
And it actually WORKS! I have sound from the car speakers with the cheap android unit!
The android unit itself, its very very similar to the ones on this product, like the M150S.
Navegação De Gps Do Andróide 11 Para Para Peugeot 407 2004-2011 Vídeo 4g Lte Bt Do Rádio Dos Multimédios Do Carro Nenhum Dvd 2din Carplay Dvr - AliExpress
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Hi,
Can u tell me, if the sound of the PDC also works well with this harness?
Thanks a lot
deekay35 said:
Hey guys,
Hi,
Can u tell me, if the sound of the PDC also works well with this harness?
Thanks a lot
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Hey! Can you please clarify me of what PDC means?
marciosilvadesign said:
Hey! Can you please clarify me of what PDC means?
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OH sorry ,
I mean ParkDistanceControl
deekay35 said:
OH sorry ,
I mean ParkDistanceControl
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Well yes, this harness has a speaker on it (like my previous one). The difference is this one has more connectors to plug to the original radio and send the sound signal to the android.
When parking, I see the graphic on screen with red and orange bars depending if I'm close to some object, or very close. And it displays where the object is. Similar to this image:
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marciosilvadesign said:
Well yes, this harness has a speaker on it (like my previous one). The difference is this one has more connectors to plug to the original radio and send the sound signal to the android.
When parking, I see the graphic on screen with red and orange bars depending if I'm close to some object, or very close. And it displays where the object is. Similar to this image:
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Thank you for your answer