Do I have to wipe every time I change roms? - Essential Phone Questions & Answers

title basically says it all, do i have to fastboot -w every time i change roms? seems a bit inconvenient to have to restore all my pictures, etc.

Yeah most likely. Roms all decided that they were gonna try to be cool and they all sign with their own keys. If they would have just all have used test keys and built userdebug, no one would ever *have to clean flash.
It's annoying, it doesn't help with security, but I can see why they do that, imagine how many questions/help they'd get for troubleshooting boot issues.

Surge1223 said:
Yeah most likely. Roms all decided that they were gonna try to be cool and they all sign with their own keys. If they would have just all have used test keys and built userdebug, no one would ever *have to clean flash.
It's annoying, it doesn't help with security, but I can see why they do that, imagine how many questions/help they'd get for troubleshooting boot issues.
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so i'd need to wipe switching from LOS to Carbon? maybe i'll just stay then, it's an annoying hassle.

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[Q] One Click vs Unlocked Bootloader

Simple question, one i didn't find a quick simple answer too.
I know the main differences between one-click root and unlocking the bootloader, and the biggest for me was the warranty. I used one-click root so just in case, I could revert back. Now my warranty is just about up, and I figure why not? My biggest question is, will it provide any benefits?
For some reason I have never been able to install themes (either update.zip files or through metamorph), I just go into an infinite boot loop. I was hoping this was the only issue. But I don't know enough to know the answer
Benefits are safer radio flashing, and if you ever **** the phone up so bad you can't boot into anything other than the bootloader, you can fastboot flash everything required to get going again.
Rusty! said:
Benefits are safer radio flashing, and if you ever **** the phone up so bad you can't boot into anything other than the bootloader, you can fastboot flash everything required to get going again.
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One more little question; Should i reflash CM7 (im running the nightlies currently) when its done? I read that it will wipe all data (already got everything backed up ready to go) but I was just wondering if I would need to reflash anything right now, like CM7 or the recovery?
Take NANDroid, unlock, restore NANDroid, continue as if nothing happened.
Rusty! said:
Take NANDroid, unlock, restore NANDroid, continue as if nothing happened.
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Tons of awesomesauce I guess thats what I will go ahead and do! Thank you so very much for the quick help!
EDIT: Done, restoring the NANDroid backup now I hesitated a little bit when hitting that button though, a year of me holding back doing it because of the warranty was still making my trigger finger nervous
... And back in my rom, everything normal once again And again thanks for the quick help.
Well not so normal; I have lost my setup accounts, and everytime I try restoring a NANDroid the accounts are still gone, and there isn't an option to add in a google account and none of the google apps work. No force closes just closes the second you try to open it.
I have tried reflashing both the rom and gapps, still no good.
Am i going to need to wipe?
Certainly shouldn't do, I unlocked my bootloader in the same way and everything continued as normal.
Bit odd that you can't add your account back though, the option should be there under accounts & sync.
It sounds like what happens when you try and use CM without adding GApps
That's what I thought too. So I tried flashing gapps, nothing.
Went ahead and did a full wipe. Quite amazed so far what all android is restoring for me. Nearly all back
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About to give phone to son as a chew toy!

Here's my problem before it becomes a chew toy,, Im currently running CYANOGENMOD-6.1.2,,I dont know if this is what you have to deal with when rooted,, ill set my phone down through the night and when i get ready to start my day i have to reboot everytime just to use it! ITS GETTING ANNOYING!!,, The internet wont work, The market wont load and if im lucky i might be able to download an app,, Some of my widgets say "problem loading" I have to trash them and reload,, Some apps tend to force close,, And also the delay after turn on the screen is bout 2sec or so..
Anybody out there experiencing the same issue? Help enjoy my phone again PLEASE HELP ME OUT!
Thanks Guys,
ImEVO
Sorry guys i just realized I posted in the wrong area! CRAP!!
Hope this helps...
ImEVO said:
Here's my problem before it becomes a chew toy,, Im currently running CYANOGENMOD-6.1.2,,I dont know if this is what you have to deal with when rooted,, ill set my phone down through the night and when i get ready to start my day i have to reboot everytime just to use it! ITS GETTING ANNOYING!!,, The internet wont work, The market wont load and if im lucky i might be able to download an app,, Some of my widgets say "problem loading" I have to trash them and reload,, Some apps tend to force close,, And also the delay after turn on the screen is bout 2sec or so..
Anybody out there experiencing the same issue? Help enjoy my phone again PLEASE HELP ME OUT!
Thanks Guys,
ImEVO
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I would say to do a full wipe (cache, dalvik cache, data, and reset to factory setting) and reflash the rom & kernel combo of your choice. Also update your radios to the latest and then update your profile under menu\settings\system updates. This should get the phone up and running better and stop the need for constant reboots. As for the widgets saying "problem loading", I get that as well and I think it is due to moving the widgets in question to your sd card. If you put them back on the internal memory of the phone that shouldnt happen anymore. If you are worried about taking up to much internal memory with widgets just set up the aps2sd and you will be able to put more of your apps on the partioned portion of your sd card and save more internal memory. Let me know if you have any questions. Hope this helps. I would like to save your EVO and not make it a chew toy for anyone!
I agree with adam, try a complete wipe, even flash calkulin's format all.zip (search for it) and flash the latest radios and re flash cyanogen. You'd be amazed at what horrors can come from not wiping the dalvik and cache. Speaking of which, try out amon ra recovery if you already haven't.
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I agree with Adam1422. It sounds like you need to do a full wipe and clean install. Do not use Titanium/Launcher/ADW/anyotherprogram backups. Save files like pictures, music, documents off your SD and format the card. Do not reuse settings or data from programs. Go into it like you just bought the phone. That will probably clear up all of your issues.
Are u using any custom kernels. Could be a more have or less have issue
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subcypher said:
I agree with Adam1422. It sounds like you need to do a full wipe and clean install. Do not use Titanium/Launcher/ADW/anyotherprogram backups. Save files like pictures, music, documents off your SD and format the card. Do not reuse settings or data from programs. Go into it like you just bought the phone. That will probably clear up all of your issues.
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Im sorry guys im a flippn newbe at this i had some dude root my phone for me.. he seemed like he knew what he was doing.. but i guess not! i need step by step directions ( i can follow directions very well).. Will all this brick my phone??
BrianDigital said:
Are u using any custom kernels. Could be a more have or less have issue
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This is what my phone says,,
Kernel Version: 2.6.35.9-cyanogenmod
[email protected] #1
ImEVO said:
Will all this brick my phone??
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Not if you do your due diligence, read up on how to do it and then perform the steps carefully without rushing. We were all n00bs once, my friend. Sure there's some tension when rooting for the first time, but there's one hell of a rush when it works. You'll be fine.
snowboarda42 said:
I agree with adam, try a complete wipe, even flash calkulin's format all.zip (search for it) and flash the latest radios and re flash cyanogen. You'd be amazed at what horrors can come from not wiping the dalvik and cache. Speaking of which, try out amon ra recovery if you already haven't.
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What is ra Recovery?? i have the option under rom manager..
The Evo is full of BPAs. Don't use it as a chew toy.
subcypher said:
I agree with Adam1422. It sounds like you need to do a full wipe and clean install. Do not use Titanium/Launcher/ADW/anyotherprogram backups. Save files like pictures, music, documents off your SD and format the card. Do not reuse settings or data from programs. Go into it like you just bought the phone. That will probably clear up all of your issues.
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Are there any other tips that i can try before i attempt surgery??
indagroove said:
The Evo is full of BPAs. Don't use it as a chew toy.
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Try to explain that to a 9 month old hahahah.. hes going to be a geek he dont like toys just electronics! lol
Not that I can think of, man. Good luck. Come back if you need help.
you are in the right forum to fix your phone...
it is not the phone.. but I agree with others.. you need a fresh setup done.
or even try a different ROM...
the hard part has been done for you.. ROOTing...
you need to go learn about the ROM you like... and how to install it.
learn about: wipe, recovery, nandroid backup, ROM, ...
this needs to be learned anyways for your life with EVO, because you wanted it rooted.
ps.. to fix this.. you are going to loose all your data and put your phone almost back to stock form. dont worry.. contacts and calendar should be backed up to google if you told evo to do so.
Dan330 said:
you are in the right forum to fix your phone...
it is not the phone.. but I agree with others.. you need a fresh setup done.
or even try a different ROM...
the hard part has been done for you.. ROOTing...
you need to go learn about the ROM you like... and how to install it.
learn about: wipe, recovery, nandroid backup, ROM, ...
this needs to be learned anyways for your life with EVO, because you wanted it rooted.
ps.. to fix this.. you are going to loose all your data and put your phone almost back to stock form. dont worry.. contacts and calendar should be backed up to google if you told evo to do so.
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Where can i direction to do the procedure?? whats the first step??
here is a good place to start reading:
http://androidforums.com/evo-4g-all-things-root/194918-rooting-dummies.html
I would like for you to try a new ROM... that is Sense ... so that you are able to use it more to what the EVO was.
this ROM is stable and has everything working:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=793471
once you have done one Flashing of a ROM.. and working..
you can easily do others as you find interest in them.
more side reading for afterwards:
there is the rooting procedure that I used:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829045
since you are already rooted.. this not needed.
but you should read the first page.. for your knowledge
here is the main forum for evo on xda.. for development. lots for you to research on new things for evo:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=653
ImEVO said:
Try to explain that to a 9 month old hahahah.. hes going to be a geek he dont like toys just electronics! lol
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I have a 3 year old and a 5 month old. The 3 year old is a geek, but she only gets to touch my Evo when in airplane mode. Remember who's the parent and who's the child.
indagroove said:
Remember who's the parent and who's the child.
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yeah, like this person:
cnstarz said:
yeah, like this person:
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oooh man,, only if that was my kid! beat him like a redheaded step child!! hahaha it was funny tho
Definitely make sure before you go flashing ROMs and stuff you do a nandroid backup.
Step-by-step instructions for how to do this, plus flash ROMs and stuff, can be found here:
http://htcevorooting.x10.mx/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page
Ask your friend what method he used to root your phone, plus check which recovery manager you're using (reboot your phone into recovery, it should say which manager it is. If you're still running CyanogenMod there should be an option to do this if you choose reboot instead of shutdown when holding the power button.)

I cant wipe, I cant re ROM, What to do?

So, I have a backup of my rom from another device that I installed. What I need to do is change the sync account, but it says I can not remove it. Fine, so I try to add another and it says google can not establish a reliable connection.
If I factory reset the device, it will sit at the boot logo and keep crashing until I restore from backup.
If i install a new rom, only one actually worked but it seemed to be an older one (Different icons, missing the Hubs)
What can I do? I already completely bricked one device trying to get this fixed. I really gotta get this going, how can I either wipe it all out completely so I can set it up new again, or find the stock USA/Canada Rom?
Thanks!!
Ps, here is the thread I already have where i speak about bricking my other phone: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1175098
Dude please stop whatever you're doing. You seems to be getting yourself in a mess.
First do some reading on how to flash with Odin and then flash a stock firmware to the device and do a cache wipe and factory reset in the recovery menu. When you boot into the device do a hard reset and then stop messing with the device.
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Dude please stop whatever you're doing. You seems to be getting yourself in a mess.
First do some reading on how to flash with Odin and then flash a stock firmware to the device and do a cache wipe and factory reset in the recovery menu. When you boot into the device do a hard reset and then stop messing with the device.
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The thing is, if i do a factory reset, it will not boot for some weird reason :/
Thats all I am trying to do, I just need to get back to stock then i'm sitting there. The only thing that actually seems to work is the backup I have on it right now, but I can not reset any of the settings to actually be able to start using the thing
this is the second one you've messed up? use one of the other 2 but don't try to do a restore just download all your apps manually. and send me one of the messed up ones.
boondoc said:
this is the second one you've messed up? use one of the other 2 but don't try to do a restore just download all your apps manually. and send me one of the messed up ones.
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Yup, haha
I have a Jig on the way, ill see how that goes
Well I would also like to change the sync account, which it will not let me ://
I just reflashed like 8 times in the last hour trying different roms, none are working
Stop.
There is a bug when you wipe, which stops boot...
Affects older stock roms.
Newer ones should be OK, as should custom ROMs
pulser_g2 said:
Stop.
There is a bug when you wipe, which stops boot...
Affects older stock roms.
Newer ones should be OK, as should custom ROMs
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So what can I do?
I also cant even find any Stock USA roms, which is weird
I just got it to finally boot with another rom
The only thing different is it by default has some widgets added, and the Messaging app has a different icon. All the hubs are also intact
*Roots, makes a backup*
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So what can I do?
I also cant even find any Stock USA roms, which is weird
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that's because it hasn't been released here yet. seriously... send me one of those babies.
boondoc said:
that's because it hasn't been released here yet. seriously... send me one of those babies.
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All seems to be working now. Woo whoo!
I have 4 And 2 of the 10.1 tabs
I am working closely with Samsung on one of their new marketing projects, which is why I get all of these
So, factory resetting this image screws up too.
But its okay, as I got a blank backup now with no accounts. So I'm all set
Also, just got the email confirmation that my jig shipped out.
You should probably donate one of the "b0rk3n" device to a dev.

(first post) how do i add menu key

Gday! I was wondering if there are any mods out there that add the menu key permanently just like you can with cyanogen mod. I'm not interested in ROMs as they are giving me a hard time by always boot looping and then me having to fresh install and unlock etc etc. I'm doing just fine with normal zips, though. BTW the kind of menu key I'm talking about is the four line one with a longer line at the top, not the four dots one that opens when developers opt for it. Thanks in advance
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Gday! I was wondering if there are any mods out there that add the menu key permanently just like you can with cyanogen mod. I'm not interested in ROMs as they are giving me a hard time by always boot looping and then me having to fresh install and unlock etc etc. I'm doing just fine with normal zips, though. BTW the kind of menu key I'm talking about is the four line one with a longer line at the top, not the four dots one that opens when developers opt for it. Thanks in advance
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Hi there cnamon15! I understand what you are asking for, but I think you can only enable a permanent menu button through a custom rom unfortunately I don't think there is an app that allows you to create a nav bar menu icon (unless someone else knows of one :laugh. If you can't install a custom rom, unfortunately there isn't much out there. Maybe try and load CM or even PA or AOKP again ensuring you do the factory rest, wipe cache and dalvik so that you don't boot loop. Hope that helps
Ahh do you mean I wipe dalvik & cache before? Lol I must be a huge noob. Also i've done so much theming on my phone that it pretty much isn't looking stock anymore. Is there a way I could grab the framework/apk Of the menu thingy from pa or cm or aokp and flash on my stock? I want to keep using stock so I can get updates in a timely manner.
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No. You will get into a bootloop. What have you done to your "stock" phone? There are some things that if you change, you will not be eligible to get OTA updates.
Yes it sounds like you may be missing a step in your process of flashing custom roms. First off make a nandroid of your setup now then follow the OP directions to flash a rom which is basically factory reset, flash rom, gapps and reboot. FYI- worrying about staying stock for updates to me in meaningless especially if you are on xda. The updated rom will come in either a form of a stock rooted rom or custom roms but either way you will have it...
Since I wiped my phone I only have Franco kernel and touch sensitivity mod. Most of the other customisations came from apks. I also have changed my navbar theme to something with a reflection
Edit: btw that menu button you see below is from the app!
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Hi, I have a big problem... // BLUETOOTH

Hi, (this is my first post here)
well I have a really nasty problem. Since my kitkat update there have been apps facing a lot of issues, thanks to their bugs/wanted changes with the permission setup and so on... In an attempt to fix that I tried to flash the new A7 firmware yesterday. (was on the unbranded A6 from Poland)
The problem was that because I'm unbranded, it FAILED at the end of the flash. So the obvious solution would be to flash the FW with a PIT file. But I don't want to loose my data and restore everything. It will take me 8 hours at least. (and this with nandroid backups and what not)
Well after some trial and error it booted up. But the system was corrupted i.e FCs and and and... So I flashed A6 back. All worked/works well now but I have an enormous problem:
The Bluetooth is broken. It tries to turn itself on but doesn't get anywhere. And in the eventually it stops, after 30/40 seconds. And after that it starts again. Well the obvious solution would be to go and delete the bluetooth data/cache and also delete the /data/misc/bluedroid/ folder. But nope. No success. And the same goes for reflashing/dalvik cache+cache wiping and so on. I also tried to take the battery out for some time.
Well the catlog show a lot of problems. It seems to be permission problems in this case too. I know that you suggest that I should only wipe it. But if i restore this **** will get back too. And re-installing everything from scratch will take me 2.5 days. I have like 750 apps or something.
Please help me with this, I beg you!
This is the catlog(filtered):
ht tp://pastebin.com/Hy99A10y
And here is the complete log aswell (the one with the timestamp):
ht tps://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B9fgteM7eke-MHFBOFpWcmZtVjg&usp=sharing
Anyone? ;(
kevin_1351 said:
Anyone? ;(
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Visit service center and make a fresh update
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Visit service center and make a fresh update
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I'm rooted so I tripped my knox. I have not warranty anymore...
But anyway I know that I can fix it if i restore fresh. But I want to repair the Bluetooth, without factory resets.
kevin_1351 said:
I'm rooted so I tripped my knox. I have not warranty anymore...
But anyway I know that I can fix it if i restore fresh. But I want to repair the Bluetooth, without factory resets.
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This is why I use cwm to make a backup...
But seriously, it looks like you might need to do a complete wipe... It sounds like some fragment of the A7 rom has been left there to corrupt your bluetooth....
Pain I know but sometimes this is the only way....
ultramag69 said:
This is why I use cwm to make a backup...
But seriously, it looks like you might need to do a complete wipe... It sounds like some fragment of the A7 rom has been left there to corrupt your bluetooth....
Pain I know but sometimes this is the only way....
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I love many things about android, but one thing that seems to completely miss is the ability to factory reset only certain things like your settings, radios and so on.
Is there really no way to extract everything there has to be, from A6? Like zeroing all bluetooth files but nothing else?
kevin_1351 said:
I love many things about android, but one thing that seems to completely miss is the ability to factory reset only certain things like your settings, radios and so on.
Is there really no way to extract everything there has to be, from A6? Like zeroing all bluetooth files but nothing else?
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Nope, unfortunately not...
Did you edit or flash the platform.xml(extSD fix KK) by any chance??
If so, others have reported Bluetooth breaking (among other things) after editing/flashing the platform.xml. The only fix was to start from scratch (factory reset).
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denski101 said:
Did you edit or flash the platform.xml(extSD fix KK) by any chance??
If so, others have reported Bluetooth breaking (among other things) after editing/flashing the platform.xml. The only fix was to start from scratch (factory reset).
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Yeah you're right. But I still can't wipe... Like that would mean hell for me.
I really DON'T UNDERSTAND why I can't reverse it. Why flashing that zip messed eveything up. Like why doesn't it work now that I've restored the platform.xml backup? Are you shure that there isn't any way? It really doesn't make any sense at all.
kevin_1351 said:
Yeah you're right. But I still can't wipe... Like that would mean hell for me.
I really DON'T UNDERSTAND why I can't reverse it. Why flashing that zip messed eveything up. Like why doesn't it work now that I've restored the platform.xml backup? Are you shure that there isn't any way? It really doesn't make any sense at all.
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Well, I didn't encounter this problem when I edited the file. But I'm just relaying other's, who had this prob and had to factory reset. I would of thought restoring the old platform.xml, setting right permission & rebooting would have fixed it, but apparently that doesn't work. You could possibly try this as a last ditch effort, but going by what other's have experienced, I think resetting is going to be the only fix.
Would you like me to upload my platform file for you to test?
EDIT: (you'll need root) here's one I prepared earlier- rename the xls to xml, move to /system/etc/permissions and set permissions (file)6,4,4: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=49574602
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I'm rooted so I tripped my knox. I have not warranty anymore...
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Who in this world put that crazy idea in your head??? Did you even try? Maybe you should
Well I really love android, I do. And it has too many good aspects to switch back to iOS, BUT, Two things really are missing:
an uncomplicated, selfupdating store for mods (it's slowly getting better with the arrival of xposed framework but we still aren't at the same level).
Before xposed, xda was the only place for mods. And devs have to implement auto updating features in their apps themselves if they want it...
With xposed it's as I said better but not really the same actually.
And the last thing is really about my problem here. Nandroid backups/etc are good but not always an option with 25/30 gb of data on your phone (im not including media only apps and so on). So I really ask myself why there isn't a restore/reset option for some things like the system backbone, wifi, bluetooth etc. And this whole permission thing is really pathetic.
I also miss Icloud because it does backups without living a big fingerprint on the device. No bat drain and no errors. Carbon/Helium and all that other crap even titanium are really good but to complicated and battery/process hungry compared to icloud.
So while almost everything else is awesome about android IMO, this really sucks ass. And it's not that I am a noob or to stupid to backup. It's about the fact that it's not as convenient.
Well well....

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