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Anyone one going to buy this new Galaxy Tab Plus ? It is like the first generation 7" galaxy tab but with better specs.
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Anyone one going to buy this new Galaxy Tab Plus ? It is like the first generation 7" galaxy tab but with better specs.
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Except 3G/4G/LTE, etc. If it's $249; it's okay. But I've heard $399?
Yeah, I am. Fits my pockets snugly. When I replace my tab, I'll look for better specs only, in a similar if not identical package. Anything less will not do for me.
I've been waiting for this to come out for a while hoping it would be in the high 200s low 300s range...Unfortunately it's looking to be $399 for the 16Gb, so for now, it's back in the maybe pile unless the price drops a bit.
I know I can't be the only one out there. I'm just really unsure about the Note's size... I'm a tall guy, with big hands, but its just seems that bit too big?
Mind you, I've been using my Tab 7.0 as a phone for a good 3 weeks!
Is it really usable with one hand? By that I mean, can I fire off a quick text with one hand? If its a yes, I'll order it now!
Thanks for anything useful you have to say!
I'm in the same situation like you!
I'm currently with AT&T at the moment, wondering if I should sell my iPhone 4S (only reason I got it was because of its high resale value) to buy a Note to use, or wait until the Nexus comes to Verizon and sell my iPhone and use that money for the Nexus.
I really like the size of the Note and would love to use it during school, but I kind of want to see how the Nexus looks in real life first before making my decision.
I would also rather be on Verizon's network to be honest, with it's double data promotion helping its case even more.
Im thinking I may just go for the nexus now, I've not had a pure android yet (from stock) and it looks fluid as anything! IMO Touchwiz slows down Android (I own both the Tab and original Galaxy S).
Still can't seem to click buy on either though!
Let me just say that I had the same concerns, so much so that I was determined to wait until I played with the Note before ordering it. I went ahead and took the chance and I am VERY pleased. The phone does not feel nearly as big as you might thing. I think it is very comfortable to use, fits in all my pockets, and is an absolute pleasure to have. I guarantee you will not regret buying the Note. Just read the other reviews.
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Let me just say that I had the same concerns, so much so that I was determined to wait until I played with the Note before ordering it. I went ahead and took the chance and I am VERY pleased. The phone does not feel nearly as big as you might thing. I think it is very comfortable to use, fits in all my pockets, and is an absolute pleasure to have. I guarantee you will not regret buying the Note. Just read the other reviews.
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I'm not worried about pockets, my 7.0 tab fits in my pockets! I just thought.... If I buy this I can sell my Tab and put that towards this, as it'll replace it anyway!
I'll sell my tab on eBay me thinks!
EDIT: Tab in the marketplace, once thats sold, I will be buying note. Just found out that Nexus uses a poor GPU. I know its twice the speed of Galaxy S, but I'd rather have samsungs latest chip!
I just ordered a white Note from eBay. The way I look at it, an Aosp ICS rom will come eventually. Then you have the option be it Aosp, MIUI, or Touchwiz. And if one doesn't come fast enough, use the Note then sell it when the Nexus is available to you. I have an HTC right now and I switch between Aosp and Sense and its nice to have the choice.
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Here are a couple of Nexus deal breakers for me.
Only 16GB of storage, on my 16GB Note only 11GB is usable, the rest are reserved for OS and apps. This limit my music files to 128 kbps and with 1GB of storage left. Also the 32GB Nexus is not available yet, and I'm not sure I want to pay premium price for a 16GB upgrade when 32GB micro sd card are around £40.
The 16:9 screen makes the phone easier to hold but awkward when browsing the web in portrait mode.
Also the processor and graphic chip are weaker than the Note, so not the best phone out there for future proof.
The only selling point of Nexus compared to the Note is ICS, which will be on the Note either from Samsung or developers. After almost two weeks of using the Note, I found the performance very smooth, so not in a hurry to upgrade to ICS.
Unless you really want an ICS device, I'd get the Note. I'm sure you will happier with the Note few months down the line when both devices have ICS.
P.S. Typing with one hand is awkward at best, and you are risking drop the phone while doing it.
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Here are a couple of Nexus deal breakers for me.
Only 16GB of storage, on my 16GB Note only 11GB is usable, the rest are reserved for OS and apps. This limit my music files to 128 kbps and with 1GB of storage left. Also the 32GB Nexus is not available yet, and I'm not sure I want to pay premium price for a 16GB upgrade when 32GB micro sd card are around £40.
The 16:9 screen makes the phone easier to hold but awkward when browsing the web in portrait mode.
Also the processor and graphic chip are weaker than the Note, so not the best phone out there for future proof.
The only selling point of Nexus compared to the Note is ICS, which will be on the Note either from Samsung or developers. After almost two weeks of using the Note, I found the performance very smooth, so not in a hurry to upgrade to ICS.
Unless you really want an ICS device, I'd get the Note. I'm sure you will happier with the Note few months down the line when both devices have ICS.
P.S. Typing with one hand is awkward at best, and you are risking drop the phone while doing it.
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You couldn't have summed it up any better! I'll probably order of Amazon.de tomorrow morn.
Portability
This device is more portable than a tab.
Think of it not as a phone, or a tab, but an XDA(convergent digital assistant)
I would not even consider a tab (or a laptop).
I have a workstation, and an XDA.
Have so for nearly 10 years.
The note is particularly portable and useful.
khsbenny said:
You couldn't have summed it up any better! I'll probably order of Amazon.de tomorrow morn.
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You are welcome, Amazon.de normally ship the phone out the next working day and it will take two more days for delivery via CityLink.
Also CityLink web tracking might tell you the phone will arrive the next working day after Amazon has shipped the Note. Don't belive them and don't panic when the tracking don't get updated for the 1st 24hrs.
Xaddict said:
This device is more portable than a tab.
Think of it not as a phone, or a tab, but an XDA(convergent digital assistant)
I would not even consider a tab (or a laptop).
I have a workstation, and an XDA.
Have so for nearly 10 years.
The note is particularly portable and useful.
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I'm looking forward to a stylus! As much as Jobs hated them, you can't beat them for accuracy. Web browsing was easier on my 2.8" screen on my HTC Diamond thanks to a stylus!
I was thinking of getting the nexus too but no sd card slot is poo, but I will be getting the note as soon it's available in white in the uk
Anyone know of any UK sites selling white ones?
ik911 said:
I was thinking of getting the nexus too but no sd card slot is poo, but I will be getting the note as soon it's available in white in the uk
Anyone know of any UK sites selling white ones?
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I'd be interested in that too.
Although unless its >£500 I'll stick with black.
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I'd be interested in that too.
Although unless its >£500 I'll stick with black.
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All I found is this £539.99 with no date http://www.handtec.co.uk/product.php/5864/samsung-galaxy-note--16gb--sim-free-unlocked--white-
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All I found is this £539.99 with no date http://www.handtec.co.uk/product.php/5864/samsung-galaxy-note--16gb--sim-free-unlocked--white-
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I suppose I could claim the VAT back.... If its not in the next few days I might have to give the white one a miss
I'm in the same boat as you. I've been mulling over this decision for about 2 weeks at least
Here's my pros and cons, and these are too me, a US AT&T user still in contract:
Note Pros:
- Screen
- CPU
- Battery
- Staying with AT&T
Cons:
- Importing and Warranty
- No ICS yet. This is big as it looks like exchange support is greatly improved there, and I'd like to ditch Touchdown
I don't consider the stylus much of a pro personally - I don't think I'll use it
Nexus Pros:
- Vanilla ICS
- NFC
- LTE sim swap with my Xoom (this is kinda minor, as WiFi hotspot is basically the same except that I can conserve my phone's battery if I were to go on a road trip)
- Better dev and app support because it will be more popular
Nexus Cons:
- very worried about battery life with LTE. I'd hope to go data only too, so I'd have GooVe IP signed in all the time.
- smaller screen, though it might be OK as I've had a Dell Streak and so many apps don't deal with gigantic screens very well.
- maybe slightly worse camera from my investigations
I probably should just buy the Note and be done with it, but I want to see what Verizon's off contract price is. if it's $600 that's hard to then justify getting a Note for around $750 I think. $650-700 will be a note autobuy I think... then again my ETF would be around $150, but going data only will save in the long run, but not sure if I can reliably recieve calls on GrooVe IP... meh... decisions.
There IS a simple solution........... JUST GET BOTH !!!
It is what I am doing....... can't help myself
Nothing touches Galaxy Note on the market IMO. Engadget just did a hands-on test of the Galaxy Nexus and here's something they mention in their article:
It's still too early to comment on battery life, but so far we're not seeing any issues. While the Nexus feels quite snappy it isn't as mind bendingly fast as some Gingerbread devices (the Galaxy Note comes to mind)
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The Note is a superior platform--bigger display, S-pen functionality, faster CPU, faster GPU. Why would anyone outside a developer want a Nexus? ICS is coming to our phone so there's no advantage there. People argue Touchwiz adds a layer of lag and I disagree, my phone with 2.3.6 gingerbread is lightning fast and I never see any lag.
where can I get the 2.3.6 version? I tried to update my phone but it said my phone was all updated.
5150Joker said:
Nothing touches Galaxy Note on the market IMO. Engadget just did a hands-on test of the Galaxy Nexus and here's something they mention in their article:
The Note is a superior platform--bigger display, S-pen functionality, faster CPU, faster GPU. Why would anyone outside a developer want a Nexus? ICS is coming to our phone so there's no advantage there. People argue Touchwiz adds a layer of lag and I disagree, my phone with 2.3.6 gingerbread is lightning fast and I never see any lag.
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Agree with everything you said. I've been doing my research on both since I had been going back and forth on what phone I really wanted and even went with just the AT&T GS2 for a few days but in the end both the GS2 and Nexus both are inferior devices to what the Note offers and outside of getting ICS early I can't see any reason to buy the Nexus unless you just need a smaller phone. I'd rather wait and get ICS shortly down the road than to get it a few weeks earlier on lesser hardware.
hey guys my wife dropped my tab and cracked the screen and now she wants to buy me a new one
with so many tabs out there im stumped
what do you guys recomend i still wana stay in the 7-8.5 inch range
also i would like to get this screen fixxed anybody know where i can ship it to
thanks
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LOL
We're all nosy buggers!
If it were me I'd go for the SGT 7.7
As for where the screen repair can be done I have no idea...maybe you could try it yourself with a little help if you can locate and buy a replacement screen!?
Maybe a bit too big for you but I've played with the GT 8.9 and it is SWEET.
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Maybe a bit too big for you but I've played with the GT 8.9 and it is SWEET.
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ive look at that but lack of support from xda is holding me up i had a taste of ics and realy want something with that os
I'd love to get the Galaxy Tab 7.7 personally, the AMOLED screen looks great and it's still portable enough.
Price is very high though.
As for the screen, I'd buy a replacement from Ebay and fix it myself, if that is too scary, you could try a phone repair shop or something.
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I'd love to get the Galaxy Tab 7.7 personally, the AMOLED screen looks great and it's still portable enough.
Price is very high though.
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Agreed.
I Googled it for a laugh and saw prices of over £550
...too rich for me at the moment
I'd recommend the Galaxy Tab 7.0 Plus. It doesn't have the AMOLED screen of the 7.7, but it's wifi, off contract, has a microSD slot, and for $400 is a good price. I currently purchased the 7.0 plus to take the place of my aging OG Galaxy Tab and I'm extremely happy. It's like my 10.1, but smaller!
Hi,
I'm actually searching a new tab too.
I have seen the Acer iconia tab A100.
But I fear that the battery will drain too fast ...
In addition I think that the screen of the A100 is worst than the galaxy tab.
I have seen the galaxy tab 8.9 but it's not the same budget ...
I would also prefer the galaxy tab 7.7 for me it would be the perfect size. But its not available in germany and toooo expensive. Otherwise it would allready be mine
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I'd recommend the Galaxy Tab 7.0 Plus. It doesn't have the AMOLED screen of the 7.7, but it's wifi, off contract, has a microSD slot, and for $400 is a good price. I currently purchased the 7.0 plus to take the place of my aging OG Galaxy Tab and I'm extremely happy. It's like my 10.1, but smaller!
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psssss....Amazon has them for $350 (The 7.0+'s I mean)
I wonder how well updated a 8.4 (possibly LTE) will get regular updates. I had a 7.7, that I thought was a "premium" device, and I lost it before I could even put ICS on it. It started to lag, and lag and lag as new apps were updated and used.
So what do you think? Would this face the same fate as the 7.7 tab or the 8.9 tab, or more like the original 10.1 tab (which I think it was adequate and more in line with what I expect from a device.
Any input is appreciated.
As underwhelming as Android updates have been since 4.1, I don't think it really matters anymore. My Moto X got updated from 4.3 to 4.4... I barely noticed.
RipplingHurst said:
I wonder how well updated a 8.4 (possibly LTE) will get regular updates. I had a 7.7, that I thought was a "premium" device, and I lost it before I could even put ICS on it. It started to lag, and lag and lag as new apps were updated and used.
So what do you think? Would this face the same fate as the 7.7 tab or the 8.9 tab, or more like the original 10.1 tab (which I think it was adequate and more in line with what I expect from a device.
Any input is appreciated.
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The 7.7 was Verizon I think. Anything involving Verizon will be very slow on updates. They are the worst at approving manufacturer updates and pushing them out. HTC leaked a final 4.3 for my former DROID DNA 5 and it took Verizon 5 months to release it.
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All Samsung's high-end tablets starting with the N10.1-14 are running the same h/w and screen resolution. That's got to make coding updates faster and easier as so much is shared between them.
I'm optimistic that it will be different from the Tab 7.7 for a couple reasons. As mentioned above, the hardware and screen resolution is nearly identical across multiple devices this time, where the 7.7 was the only tablet with its processor and screen resolution (the Note 1 and Tab 7 Plus were the closest two. A phone and another low selling sparsely available tablet). The international version was updated slowly, but far quicker than the Verizon LTE version. However, I think it didn't sell well at all, was expensive, and was banned from multiple countries before or after its rocky unveiling (remember Apple had the courts remove it from the stand at IFA?). It became the best product that Samsung couldn't sell and therefore had little incentive to support it.
Not that I'm trying to make excuses for Samsung not supporting it, just that I'm logically hopeful this time around.
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I wonder how well updated a 8.4 (possibly LTE) will get regular updates. I had a 7.7, that I thought was a "premium" device, and I lost it before I could even put ICS on it. It started to lag, and lag and lag ..
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I still have a 7.7 and it's on JB4.1.2.
It's smooth as... AND twice as quick.
I remember the lag on the Default ICS ROM and I was very disapointed. Especially as I had an S2 with less power but it's UI was silky smooth.
Fortunately the was a developer UpInTheAir who kept the device moving forward. His first ICS Sky High rom for the 7.7 was a god send.
And now, if it were not for the Pro 8.4 I'd still want to keep my 7.7 with the JB 4.1.2 release available.
The point however to take from your comments is that WITHOUT xda community the 7.7 I would have been very disappointed. It would have stayed the best screen/worst OS tablet/paperweight device available. As it is now with this ROM it is a better alternative than for Apple iPad Mini 1st Gen.
I hope that the 'Tab Pro' given it's 'Pro' status Samsung keeps with the updates. (Given I've just ordered one)
Welcome to the world of Samsung. You'll be lucky if you get more then 2 updates or a year of support. They're in the business of making a quick buck then dump their customers to desolation.
Got the iPad mini. Samsung scares me too much. If I was going for the 10.1, okay, but the 8.4 may turn out to be not popular enough and will be forgotten.
I have a Mini Retina. Sorry but there is no comparison to the 8.4 Pro. Sure the Mini has a nice aluminum back (which you need to immediately put into a case as it scratches super easy) and a slightly more robust battery but that's about it.
The Samsung wins everywhere it matters, battery notwithstanding.
I'll put the two side by side and take some pics of the screen. The Mini Retina is much dimmer (my biggest beef btw with the LG G Pad) than the Samsung irrespective of what brightness levels you set it at.
The other biggie is the Micro SD slot. The Tab Pro + a 64GB Micro SD card (80 GB total) is about $160 cheaper than a 64GB Mini Retina. Plus the accessories are much cheaper (mind you less selection of cases).
Now that Sandisk has released a 128GB Micro SD for $120 that equates to a 144GB tablet for $200 cheaper than the 128GB Mini Retina.
Plus if you are an avid reader, you cannot beat the reading apps on Android. The closest is Marvin for IOS and its still barely usable.
Just curious, is tab pro 8.4 capable of making phone calls? and i mean real phone calls like tab 7.7
Buy the LTE version and you can...
seriously? any article or anything to support your statement?
im very interested to get the 8.4 pro but i need it to be able to make phone calls also
thanks before
Justin^Tan said:
seriously? any article or anything to support your statement?
im very interested to get the 8.4 pro but i need it to be able to make phone calls also
thanks before
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If you take a look at any reviews of LTE version then you can see Phone Application as well. And this fact is known, I' m waiting for the same thing...
hmm. so it's based on the picture of the phone application huh? okay2 ^^ thanks
Yeah i 'm also getting the LTE version to make phone calls
The reason the 7.7 didn't get a lot of support is due to it being banned in many countries so without them able to sell it they had no reason to keep it updated.
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I ordered the 8.4 LTE from Hong Kong... it'll arrive in 10 days.
I use the 7.7 now as my phone. I'm expecting to use the 8.4 as my phone too.
Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.7 vs Samsung Galaxy Tab S 8.4 LTE, Worth Upgrading?
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Thanks for this topic.... above notes and comments. This has has been eating my brain for weeks....
I am also in this dilemma to, see actual comparison of two in terms of spec here:
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/co...LTE,Samsung-Galaxy-Tab-S-8.4/phones/6739,8663 (If im not allowed to add this, mods please remove link and keep post, thanks)
I wanted to know if it’s worth upgrading too or not, as I also used it for phone calls and video calls. I was wondering can the tab s 8.4 4G/LTE work in the same manner or are they different now? Also build quality on the Tab 7.7 is second to none. How does it compare to Tab S 8.4?
See that the Galaxy Tab 7.7 had the following available:
Tablet with support for GSM voice communication, SMS, and MMS
Does the Galaxy Tab S 8.4 have the same fate as the Tab 7.7. Meaning does it have the same capabilities of "Tablet with support for GSM voice communication, SMS, and MMS"
Does anyone know, if yes please advise. As I’m thinking of selling my tab 7.7 32gb Wi-Fi and 3G to purchase a tab s 8.4 WiFi & 4G/LTE…
Thanks
So I bought my Tab S2 about two weeks ago (and am going to return it).
Rumors are saying the Tab S3, the true update to the S2 (not the 2016 S2 I bought) will be announced on September 1 along with the Gear S3 watch. This is shortly after the Note 7 is announced.
Let's post here as details become available. Everything for now is just rumors.
The rumor I'm hoping comes true is that is has the processor from the S7. That is a beast and huge upgrade over the S2's dated note 4 processor.
I hope its true, since i have 30 day to return my 2016 S2, i might consider going for the new model due to the new cpu.
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I hope its true, since i have 30 day to return my 2016 S2, i might consider going for the new model due to the new cpu.
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New ones always launch about $150 more than their predecessors.
The way I think of it, the Tab S is the Galaxy S5, the Tab S2 is the Galaxy S6, and the Tab S3 will be the Galaxy S7.
Usually leaks begin months before an official announcement. The Tab S2 was announced in Jul 15 but the form factor and dimensions were leaked way back in Feb. I think it this were true we would have more details by now.
In any case, I doubt Samsung is going to go with such a high-end SOC for a tablet, but hopefully I will be wrong.
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New ones always launch about $150 more than their predecessors.
The way I think of it, the Tab S is the Galaxy S5, the Tab S2 is the Galaxy S6, and the Tab S3 will be the Galaxy S7.
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I bought the 2016 S2 as well 3 weeks ago...but got an open box for $225....so I cant complain... I went through every Note in the series tablet and phone... and I love this thing I do miss the S Pen. Samsung is throwing out a lot of buggy stuff in the last two years though.. thank God for root because because I fixed everything that way.. I definitely want to the Note 7!
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For the price (I paid $299 for the 8.0 WiFi version of the 2016 S2), I wasn't going to wait. I'm absolutely pleased with the 2016 S2, I can finally "stick" with an Android Tablet (tried so many, always went back to iPad Mini). I doubt there will be much "lift" from a refreshed Tab S3 -- the usual faster processor, maybe better camera, but in day to day, it's probably marginal benefit. The one thing you will most certainly get is a faster update to Nougat.
I believe it's highly unlikely there will be a S3 this year with a recently released refresh. All of the rumor sites list the specs of the refresh and the model number I've seen references the 9.7 LTE refresh (sm t819).
Additionally the release cycle for the Galaxy Tab S series seems to consistently launch in the summer, with the refresh released this summer I out the chances of seeing a Tab S3 between zero and nil.
I paid $340 at Costco for the T813 (9.7") and it came with the Samsung book cover ($70 on Sammys website), so it was definitely a good deal. This recent price drop makes me think they are clearing out the last model in anticipation of the new one. Costco is where that 90 day return comes from, so I'll be unrooting and going back to stock before returning if the s3 is announced.
Bringing it out early September seems to make sense to be with the recent releases if you throw in the 2016 refresh, which held them over a little longer.
I don't see the S2 as being in line with the S6, its really just a big Note 4 (sans S-pen). So maybe we get a Note 5 for the S3. That's a decent upgrade on the processor and probably worth it to me.
I guess there is always something better around the corner. I just hate to be the sucker that helped the clear out last years model right before something better comes out, and makes the S2 drop even further in price. It's like buying a Note 5 right now. It'll be outdated and cheaper here soon....
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I just hate to be the sucker that helped the clear out last years model right before something better comes out, and makes the S2 drop even further in price. It's like buying a Note 5 right now. It'll be outdated and cheaper here soon....
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The model T813 was released in April (3 months ago). That's hardly being the sucker that bought last years model right before the new model came out. Now if you bought a T810 I could go with that, but you bought a brand new model. Same case and aesthetics, new processor/GPU, higher performance in benchmarks, and is arguably already the best Android tablet. I understand wanting the latest and greatest, which is why I bought the T713. That said there's nothing about an FCC filing yet, the sites that mention the FCC filing are all mistakenly identifying the T819 as a Tab S3 and not a refreshed Tab S2 LTE, no announcement from Samsung. Once there is an announcement from Samsung the wait timer starts, which typically is a 3 month wait (June/July announcement typically results in a September release).
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I don't see the S2 as being in line with the S6, its really just a big Note 4 (sans S-pen).
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I do, in terms of release cycle.
S5 (Tab S1) is great but has some things wrong with it.
S6 (Tab S2) removes some features that were loved about the S5 but still overall a better device.
S7 (Tab S3...?) adds back everything that people hated being removed from the S6 (in the Tab case, maybe the S3 will have a 16:10 screen...? who knows)
Give us a new Note 8.
better accu? when I wach youtube with my 8.0 tab the accu I can't enjoy all the day (or even 8 hours) of my nice tab
Some differences in the new 2016 refresh:
http://www.sammobile.com/2016/04/12/samsung-just-released-an-updated-galaxy-tab-s2-with-improved-performance/
Some differences in the SD 652 vs SD 820:
http://www.androidauthority.com/snapdragon-652-vs-802-whats-difference-686684/
I believe they moved to this CPU because it's cheaper to make. It's on the older 28nm process, which they probably have excess capacity on. It gives them more profit and ability to close out old stock without losing as much or at least cutting into profit less. To me the biggest difference is that the GPU is less capable. I would wait unless you're trying to get a good tablet and can't afford to drop $500+. Then it's still a great tablet if you're getting it for under $350 IMHO.
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Some differences in the new 2016 refresh:
http://www.sammobile.com/2016/04/12...ated-galaxy-tab-s2-with-improved-performance/
Some differences in the SD 652 vs SD 820:
http://www.androidauthority.com/snapdragon-652-vs-802-whats-difference-686684/
I believe they moved to this CPU because it's cheaper to make. It's on the older 28nm process, which they probably have excess capacity on. It gives them more profit and ability to close out old stock without losing as much or at least cutting into profit less. To me the biggest difference is that the GPU is less capable. I would wait unless you're trying to get a good tablet and can't afford to drop $500+. Then it's still a great tablet if you're getting it for under $350 IMHO.
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As I stated earlier in this thread, the new refresh model gpu is garbage comparing to last years's models. I am not a gamer and the light games I do play stutter and drop frames while last year's model played all these games at full frame rate without frame drops or stuttering.
So I agree with the above that Samsung probably used this soc in the 2016 models to save on costs.
Hopefully there will be an tab s3 this year.
Maybe the 713/813 and 719/819 are the new Tab S3. I just noticed in Samsung's list of Knox-supported devices the T813 is listed under Samsung Galaxy Tab S3!!!
It is a PDF file I downloaded from Samsung, I can't remember the link.
Edit: here it is! https://www.samsungknox.com/knoxportal/files/GalaxyDevicesSupportingKNOX.pdf
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Maybe the 713/813 and 719/819 are the new Tab S3. I just noticed in Samsung's list of Knox-supported devices the T813 is listed under Samsung Galaxy Tab S3!!!
It is a PDF file I downloaded from Samsung, I can't remember the link.
Edit: here it is! https://www.samsungknox.com/knoxportal/files/GalaxyDevicesSupportingKNOX.pdf
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I have the SM-T719 and the box says Tab S2 (it is the Qcom processor model w 6.0.1)
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I have the SM-T719 and the box says Tab S2 (it is the Qcom processor model w 6.0.1)
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The point is Samsung slipped up and called it the Tab S3 internally. Regardless what it says on our boxes these models may be the ones they're planning on shipping in new boxes and calling them Tab S3.
I don't see a reason to release a S3 a couple months after a refresh. Just doesn't make sense at all. The S2 2016 is $350 for 8", that's a far cry from trying to clean out inventory price, and once again, would be pointless to do so soon...
Yes, I got my 713 for $175 (after CB), due to the price mistake, but I also waited 5 weeks to receive it, with clear warning that replacements within return window isn't happening. Only a 15% restocking fee if you return it. I love this tablet though! I've had a N7 2013 that is on its death bed. Going from a 1800 sunspider score to 580 is pretty darn noticeable!
Also, why would anyone return their 713 and 813, especially if you got a deal for the S2... THE opportunity cost is negligible. Spending a $150 more to get 15% speed bump would be a dimwitted move. Especially if you're mostly doing light gaming, reading, and email. That's why tablet sales are so bad, you don't need to update nearly as often as your smartphone, because you're doing significantly less with it! Honestly, even that is pointless, my N6 keeps up with everything I throw at it...
My N7 I wholeheartedly believe would still been fast enough for everyday use if it wasn't for the age and thousands of hours chugged on that CPU and RAM. This S2 destroys that tablet in specs, that's why it would be so unadvisable to forfeit all that money for barely an upgrade!
Just my logical 2 cents...
Agreed. These new models are a rockin' deal. The 8 incher wifi was 299 and I paid 399 for the 9.7. Totally ok with the price and value.
Another thing that makes me think there won't be a Tab S3 so soon (apart from the obvious lack of any evidence so far) is that it would make sense for Samsung to release their next flagship tablet on Android Nougat from day one and that's not going to be possible for a long while.