I just got the G6 and I noticed something right away that I can't explain.
In previous phones, using certain camera apps, you can tap for focus and then drag an exposure meter around to pick which part of the image to expose for. I still see this option in the apps on this phone but they don't have any effect. Does anyone understand why this is happening? Has something changed in Oreo to cause this level of setting exposure to have been disabled?
tinpanalley said:
I just got the G6 and I noticed something right away that I can't explain.
In previous phones, using certain camera apps, you can tap for focus and then drag an exposure meter around to pick which part of the image to expose for. I still see this option in the apps on this phone but they don't have any effect. Does anyone understand why this is happening? Has something changed in Oreo to cause this level of setting exposure to have been disabled?
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I have noticed same with my G6. Touch metering works with stock camera but not with most 3rd party camera apps, like OpenCamera. Surprisingly it works with port of Nokia 8 camera.
I think it is a feature of camera API implementation in G6. It didn't work before Oreo either. However, it works on custom Oreo ROM in my OnePlus 2.
Have you tried to "tap to focus" and then hold the finger a little bit longer on the selected area ?
It will then enter AE/AF lock mode.
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Touch metering works with stock camera but not with most 3rd party camera apps, like OpenCamera.
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When you say stock camera do you mean the one that comes on the phone? Doesn't work for me.
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emcom said:
Have you tried to "tap to focus" and then hold the finger a little bit longer on the selected area ?
It will then enter AE/AF lock mode.
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That sets the focus and exposure in the same spot. I don't always want my focal point to be the point of exposure for the shot.
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tinpanalley said:
That sets the focus and exposure in the same spot. I don't always want my focal point to be the point of exposure for the shot.
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Right, but then you can change focal point manually (the fp controls appear on screen).
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Right, but then you can change focal point manually (the fp controls appear on screen).
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Really? I'm not seeing that in my app. I only see the ability to adjust zoom.
I'm talking about the auto-mode screen, where do you see focus?
tinpanalley said:
Really? I'm not seeing that in my app. I only see the ability to adjust zoom.
I'm talking about the auto-mode screen, where do you see focus?
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When AF and AE is locked, two additional controls appear : a MF button and an exposure regulation.
Click that MF button and then you can manually set the focus.
There : https://photos.app.goo.gl/pVvCYNCkWdNtYsik9
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Click that MF button and then you can manually set the focus.
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Yeah, ok, I see. I don't have that button.
EDIT: Scratch that, I was missing an update I hadn't done. But it still doesn't fix the exposure control in camera apps via onscreen exposure meters or rings.
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I had a diamond before I got my Xperia, besides the little problems like the bluetooth turning off (fixed with good ol' mortscript) and stuff its awesome.All though the camera is realy bad, it gives a realy nice picture but the exposure time is way too long even with sport mode on. you've got to hold the thing perfectly straight for a second or two other wise its blur-city.
Is this just my X1 or are others having the same problem?
Can't say I use the camera much just would be nice to find some sort of reg key or something to make it a bit more functional.
Yes, the camera is virtually unusable as-is, because you have to keep it steady for ages.
And the problem is that if you give the phone to someone else to help you take a group picture, the long shutter time (which no one normally expects) means I have to go and explain to people to keep pressing for 2-3 seconds and not move at all.
It is stupid.
Yup, its a shame SE realy need to send out a few fixes for this phone, after all it is their flagship product at the moment, the O2 stores near me cant even get hold of them.
Bluetooth and Camera definatly need fixing
Unfortunately, since SE has decided not to use HTC to build their phones again, the Xperia X1's firmware is unlikely to be fixed ever again... sigh.
Eh, it doesn't matter if SE cooperates with HTC or not, they have their own WM department and a new firmware is already out according to this (czech) site:
Code:
http://semania.mobilmania.cz/content/view/3163/2/
One quick solution is going for infinity focus instead of auto-focus. Seems like the majority of the time is taken up by the focusing function.
the tw rom is newer in the rom thread.
as to the focus i tend to press it and leave it.
I'm trying to say that if you have focus set to auto (in the camera settings) it takes much longer to take a photo than when you have it set to infinity.
fards said:
the tw rom is newer in the rom thread.
as to the focus i tend to press it and leave it.
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Not so easy to do this if you are at a party and want to take a group photo...
Maybe infinity focus is the answer...
btw do we know what the latest firmware is?
open the phone and press the enter button once, or press the ok/center dpad once to start the process of the picture being taken.
also use multi shot this allows you to take pictures after another and then later delete ones that you do not want.
the US x1 has a newer camera cab but it doesnt help the time it takes to take a pic
i use sport mode with focus set to infinity as default settings. this gives great results and no need to hold still that much as some were suggesing.
overall the camera is great and its clearly better than the T*Omnia 5MP camera.
lets hope the new camera application from the Asian rom improve things. is it avalable CABed someware?
Sport and infinate
Although the focus isnt as good as Macro or Auto it is an improvment for the capture speed.
Setting to Sport and Infinate works a hell of a lot better than what I was using. (Sport and Auto).
Cheers guys.
shadowmike said:
open the phone and press the enter button once, or press the ok/center dpad once to start the process of the picture being taken.
also use multi shot this allows you to take pictures after another and then later delete ones that you do not want.
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I thought this for ages, its not true it really just means it has a slower shutter speed (multi-frame shot) which is why most of your pictures that involve movement will come out blurry.
Also, here is a hint for taking pictures faster: The button has 2 pressure points, hold the button down to the first point to focus, do NOT let go--then push it down all the way to take the picture it should do it instantly
For me Sports + Infinite = instant picture.
shadowmike said:
open the phone and press the enter button once, or press the ok/center dpad once to start the process of the picture being taken.
also use multi shot this allows you to take pictures after another and then later delete ones that you do not want.
the US x1 has a newer camera cab but it doesnt help the time it takes to take a pic
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thanks a lot, I didn't know the entre button and do the work
Poetique said:
For me Sports + Infinite = instant picture.
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infinite=no autofocus
When I change the standardfocus setting in the camera settings it won't save it. When I start the camera later it doesnt give me the right settings i choosed in camer settings. What am I doing wrong here? For example I wan't sport mode with macro, but I get sport mode with autofocus everytime I start the camera..
Fille84 said:
When I change the standardfocus setting in the camera settings it won't save it. When I start the camera later it doesnt give me the right settings i choosed in camer settings. What am I doing wrong here? For example I wan't sport mode with macro, but I get sport mode with autofocus everytime I start the camera..
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You have to press the down arrow on the bottom right side of the screen when in settings this will bring a more detailed settings page and you can set the default settings in there and your camera will use them everytime
Good luck
I'm a Touch Pro user but we don't have the ability to do infinite zoom. It's probably a registry value we're missing. Would anyone mind sharing any registry strings that seem to discuss focus or zooming? It would likely be in HKLM/Software/HTC/Camera
Thanks
Fille84 said:
When I change the standardfocus setting in the camera settings it won't save it. When I start the camera later it doesnt give me the right settings i choosed in camer settings. What am I doing wrong here? For example I wan't sport mode with macro, but I get sport mode with autofocus everytime I start the camera..
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Same problem here. The default focus setting is infinite, but the camera is on auto everytime.
Hi,
Did search, but didn't find anything.
Is there anyway to change the exposure setting (the setting in the lower left hand corner of the camera menu) when taking still photos? It's greyed out when in still photo mode.
It only lights up when i switch to video camera.
I know still photo camera mode lets you pick presets (cloudy/sunny/fluorescent etc), but sometimes its easier/faster to change up the exposure if i'm taking a quick snap indoor.
Turn off anti-shake, weird but that's what disables it.
CitrixLemon said:
Turn off anti-shake, weird but that's what disables it.
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That is weird, but you are correct, I just tried it.
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That is weird, but you are correct, I just tried it.
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It was really bothering me all day so I'm glad to have figured it out, now what's bothering me is trying to figure out the rational behind doing that. The only thing I can think of is that the anti-shake feature plays with the exposure setting automatically to adjust to movement, so it blocks you from setting it.
Hi there, I've had my DHD for awhile now and have been looking for ways to capture my photos by just touching and holding on the screen but haven't had any luck on it. On my previous HTC devices I had no problem capturing photos by just touching and holding on the screen.
Is this because of a setting being turned of? or is it just the stock camera app that comes with android 2.2 that doesn't include the feature?
Thanks in advance.
Touching the screen sets the point of focus so I'm note sure how this would work?
Yeah that's what I also thought so it's most probably the camera app that doesn't let me do it. I also read I that you're able to change the volume buttons' functions on the dhd, that could also work..
I thought the vol buttons operated the zoom?
Talkiing of zoom, has anyone noticed that the camer seems zoomed in a little by default (not according to the zoom meter) making if very difficult to get the subject in the frame without going some distance away?
Thats because you're on 16/9 mode. Switch to 4/3 and you'll get a lot more in your frame
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Hmmm, that answers the problem to an extent - except I seem to have two modes only:
4:3
5:3 (widescreen)
Where the hell did 5:3 come from? Surely this should be 16:9 as above?
xspyda said:
I thought the vol buttons operated the zoom?
Talkiing of zoom, has anyone noticed that the camer seems zoomed in a little by default (not according to the zoom meter) making if very difficult to get the subject in the frame without going some distance away?
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Yes, I have, especially when taking a video....when I shoot a pic, it seems normal
I've been using the camera a lot lately and have always had a problem with the picture quality, mainly indoor pics. I would hold the phone steady, press the shutter button down halfway, wait for it to focus, then take a picture, but it would still end up a little blurry. Anyone getting problems like this? If not, what settings are you using?
Also, my biggest gripe is the fact that camera settings can't be saved. I would set it up so a friend could take a picture of me, but they somehow always press that search button, which then erases all my camera settings when they go back to the camera app. Did anyone find a hack or some sort of method to keep the settings permanent?
The main reason I have to bring all this up was biggest after taking blurry pictures last night, my friend's just bust out their iphones and with one simple click, they took an almost instantaneous photo with no settings to mess with and no blur at all.
I would also like to add that one of my friends was trying to take photos with his lg quantum as well, and he has the same problem. Is this a problem with windows phone 7 in general?
you could check out shcamera. It's a sideloaded app that was developed for the hd2 crowd, so it doesn't use the camera button, it's all screen rouc, and it doesn't have all the various settings/adjustments, but it saves settings and works pretty good. Tap screen to focus, press onscreen shutter button to take picture.
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Turn on antishake in settings used to hav the same problem fixed via antishake thing bt the worse part is u hav to change it everytime u r abt to click pictures bcoz u cant save camera settings ...
DKDogz54 said:
I've been using the camera a lot lately and have always had a problem with the picture quality, mainly indoor pics. I would hold the phone steady, press the shutter button down halfway, wait for it to focus, then take a picture, but it would still end up a little blurry. Anyone getting problems like this? If not, what settings are you using?
Also, my biggest gripe is the fact that camera settings can't be saved. I would set it up so a friend could take a picture of me, but they somehow always press that search button, which then erases all my camera settings when they go back to the camera app. Did anyone find a hack or some sort of method to keep the settings permanent?
The main reason I have to bring all this up was biggest after taking blurry pictures last night, my friend's just bust out their iphones and with one simple click, they took an almost instantaneous photo with no settings to mess with and no blur at all.
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Same here. I owned an HD7 that didn't have this blurry issue. It seems the Focus camera is super sensitive to movement.
Thanks, at least I know i'm not the only one with this problem. I try to turn on anti shake everytime i use the app, which actually helps a lot. The problem is when I give the phone to someone so they can take the picture. They somehow accidently press the search button and I have to play with the settings again. Kind of a bummer, but I'll try to get used to it.
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Thanks, at least I know i'm not the only one with this problem. I try to turn on anti shake everytime i use the app, which actually helps a lot. The problem is when I give the phone to someone so they can take the picture. They somehow accidently press the search button and I have to play with the settings again. Kind of a bummer, but I'll try to get used to it.
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You might consider having them take more than one picture. I've noticed that when I take another picture after the blurry one, the results tend to be more normal. Maybe have them take a preliminary picture and then a real one. This seems preferable to messing with settings all the time.
Nice. The new NoDo update made the anti-shake option on by default. That will help a lot!
DKDogz54 said:
Nice. The new NoDo update made the anti-shake option on by default. That will help a lot!
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the nodo update didnt default the anti shake on by default on my focus .
The official nodo update for att focus includes a Samsung update that defaults the antishake on, helps lessen accidental capacitive button presses, includes an att hotspot sniffer/whisper that auto logins, and has a provision for transferring att phonebook contacts onto the phone
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Focus
Anti-shake is on by default for me after the official ATT NoDo update.
JamesAllen said:
Anti-shake is on by default for me after the official ATT NoDo update.
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Me, too. Still have blurry pics, though.
in low light indoors you might want to try the setting photo quality on medium instead of the default hi setting.
Hi there !
Maybe I am just retarded or totally blind (or both): But there's just two things missing about the Note 4's camera...
Focus indicator:
Just any smartphone has some means of signalizing "Hey, you may press the shutter button, picture is focused !" - Either by changing the color of the focus reticle or by using an acoustic signal.
Nothing of that with the Note 4. There's just that animated "split-image indicator" - but it's behaving just the same either if autofocus succeeded or not.
Manual mode:
Just everywhere I read statements like "I used Auto mode", or "I didn't use Auto mode".
Huh ? - I don't see anything else than Auto modes, didn't find anything like a Manual mode.
Am I missing something ?
Chefproll said:
Hi there !
Maybe I am just retarded or totally blind (or both): But there's just two things missing about the Note 4's camera...
Focus indicator:
Just any smartphone has some means of signalizing "Hey, you may press the shutter button, picture is focused !" - Either by changing the color of the focus reticle or by using an acoustic signal.
Nothing of that with the Note 4. There's just that animated "split-image indicator" - but it's behaving just the same either if autofocus succeeded or not.
Manual mode:
Just everywhere I read statements like "I used Auto mode", or "I didn't use Auto mode".
Huh ? - I don't see anything else than Auto modes, didn't find anything like a Manual mode.
Am I missing something ?
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To answer your question, auto mode means just grab your phone click camera apps and shut in auto mode without pressing any key features.
Manual mode means you need to set your camera settings the way your photo looks like or you want it.
sony phones use auto and manual mode.
rudynasco said:
To answer your question, auto mode means just grab your phone click camera apps and shut in auto mode without pressing any key features.
Manual mode means you need to set your camera settings the way your photo looks like or you want it.
sony phones use auto and manual mode.
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I know, I know...
But our Note 4 just does not have any manual mode; there's always autofokus, there's always automatic exposure control. Sure, we can do some exposure compensation, use a touch focus or set the ISO value - but that's not a manual mode, it's still auto.
So I am just wondering whether there will be a real manual mode in the future. I'd greatly appreciate that as the camera is my favorite feature.
Any ideas about the missing focus indicator ?
There are third party apps that can lock the focus. The Stock camera app is meant to be fully automatic.
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There are third party apps that can lock the focus. The Stock camera app is meant to be fully automatic.
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That's not what I meant. - There is just no INDICATION that the focus was set successfully.
Example: With most other devices, the focus reticle turns green or blue if the picture is "sharp", focus achieved.
With the Note 4, there's no indication if focusing was successful or not.
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That's not what I meant. - There is just no INDICATION that the focus was set successfully.
Example: With most other devices, the focus reticle turns green or blue if the picture is "sharp", focus achieved.
With the Note 4, there's no indication if focusing was successful or not.
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I see what you mean. I didn't even really notice it since photos on this phone are usually perfectly clear.
Now that I notice the focus indicator isn't obvious, it's going to annoy me [emoji3]
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Actually, the stock camera app can lock the focus too. You'll just need tap and hold it for a few secs, it'll say the focus is locked.
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Actually, the stock camera app can lock the focus too. You'll just need tap and hold it for a few secs, it'll say the focus is locked.
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I find that's very unreliable and often refocuses when the camera is moved.
I made a YouTube video of this problem (rather a conception default), comparing a S5 (no problem) and two Note 4.
Here it is : Samsung Galaxy Note 4 focusing problems (compared…*: http://youtu.be/4Y5Axxp_UMY
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Actually, the stock camera app can lock the focus too. You'll just need tap and hold it for a few secs, it'll say the focus is locked.
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In Note 4, this is not a focus (only) lock, this is a focus AND exposure lock (focus/exposure).
That means you lock the exposure in the picture zone you want your exposure done.
The metering is not always based on the object you shoot.
Mine is having trouble locking focus PERIOD. I've tried tapping an object, and no luck. It sometimes takes 30 seconds OR a really good shaking of the phone to lock the focus.
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