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Wifi slow to connect (Raphael, Wizard and Tornado)

I gotta know if anyone else is having the same problems connecting to wifi as I am. Whenever I try to connect to my wireless network with any of my devices, it's sporadic. Sometimes it'll connect right away. Most of the time, it takes two or three minutes (!) and sometimes it'll puke on itself and say it doesn't see the network.
In the latter two cases, I can delete the profile for the network and power-cycle the device and it'll connect to the network almost immediately. As you might guess, this is an annoying process to go through.
It never really bothered me until my wife got an iPhone and it connected immediately to the network and does so EVERY TIME SHE USES IT!
Can anyone help me out? Why do these devices take so darn long to connect?
This is the second router I've used (first was a Linksys, currently I'm using a Trendnet), the Raphael (Fuze) and Tornado (SDA) are running their stock ROMs. The Wizard (MDA), I've gone a little flash-happy on, but I've encountered the same problem with all ROMs I've tried.
I'll admit I haven't checked what channels neighboring wifi networks are using (I'm pretty sure I'm the only one on my channel), but when I first got my Tornado and Wizard, mine was the only network (visible) and I was still having problems. And regardless, is the wifi radio in the iPhone that much better than my HTC devices?
(Just a side note, I have three wireless laptops that are all able to connect to the router without a hitch, adding to my belief that my network is on its own channel.)

Just wanted to update everyone that, last night, I checked the wireless networks I could see from my house and none share the same channel as mine, however I didn't take overlap into consideration. The lack of response to this thread would suggest to me I'm the only one encountering this type of problem, so I'll do some experimenting in an area with no other wireless activity and see if connecting is still slow.

O.K. I tested the Wizard and Raphael with a router in an area with no other wireless activity and discovered the following:
If the devices are set for DHCP, it takes a long time to connect. However, they did connect and remain connected without any problems.
If the devices have static IP addresses, they connect immediately and remain connected without any problems.
Conclusion:
The DHCP discovery on these devices takes too darn long to acquire addresses. That, and the slightest bit of EM noise can cause them to crap out. Since I don't have problems with other wireless devices (laptops, iPhone), I'm left with the assumption that either the radio is poor quality (unlikely) or the driver needs some serious fixing (most likely).
When and if the noble developers of this board get linux up and running on the Raphael, I'll be more than happy to test it out.
Since this thread was self-answering and would seem to be of little value, please feel free to delete it, moderators.

Dropping Wifi in Large Building Solution?

Hi,
I lose my wifi connection on my android phone and tablet when I move from one part of a building to the other. My connection is perfectly fine if I don't move.
My phone and tablet eventually say, "connecting to wifi" and hangs there until I turn off my wifi and then turn it back on.
Here is the detailed story:
I work in a large building with multiple floors. I assume there are multiple routers per floor. My office is on the top floor and my lab is on the first floor. I make multiple trips between floors per hour, and it gets annoying to constantly reset the wifi receiver in my phone. Since this problem happens on my phone and my tablet, I'm sure it's not phone specific. I'm also guessing that no one else notices because they all pay outrageous prices for 4G and don't use wifi on their phones. They don't see problems on their laptops because their laptops are asleep when moving between floors.
After a little research, I think the cause might be when I move from one router in my building to another, my phone wants to keep the DHCP IP, but the new router won't accept my phone, because my phone is already connected to the old router. When I reset the wifi receiver on my phone, I reset the DHCP IP. Is this correct?
Is there an android app that says, "if connecting to wifi network takes longer than 20 seconds, reset the wifi receiver?"
Thanks,
Daniel

Are the SSID's of all the routers the same?

wifi administrator is not familiar with WDS function i assume.. best user friendly system would be Ubiquity Unifi or Mikrotik WDS Mesh.

I work in an office with three old Cisco Aironet 1130 access points and have no problem moving between them with my Sensation.
They're all on the same SSID and on the same subnet.
If I leave the building at one end, go outside and lose Wifi connection, then come in at the other end of the building, my phone just re-connects.
When your phone connects to a network it should always go through the process of requesting an IP address even if the lease hasn't expired.
Potentially what could happen is your office is serviced by one SSID, while your lab is serviced by another, and your phone is just able to talk to the other wifi network so doesn't release itself and renew with a new IP address.

Wifi in cafe needs login - Tasker?

Every day I go to my local coffee shop. When I want to connect to the net, my Nexus shows wifi points available and I choose the appropriate one for the cafe. It doesn't need a password, but it does show a webpage where you have to agree to the terms by click the Ok button.
Is there anyway to automate this, or get around this? Its such a pain in the ass! I have Tasker if that makes any difference.
Thanks,
Jon

That is called a captive portal and no.

Or called a splash page. I worked for a hotel wifi company and we used devices called "nomadix." When you connect, the device gives you an IP, then sticks you in a pending stage until you click OK or Accept on the portal page. Until then, it won't let any IP based traffic through. Usually there's a timeout that they can modify. But being in a cafe, I highly doubt it. They're probably using a walmart bought wifi router with ddwrt firmware. I know starbucks has a splash page for their wifi.

Well, there is *sort* of a way around it, but not very convenient for cafes/etc. I am currently staying at a hotel that has said portal to access the WiFi network. What I have done is connected to said WiFi network with my laptop, then utilized "connectify" to re-transmit that authorized WiFi to me and my wife's devices. Basically turning my laptop into a wireless router. Another plus is that I can set my own WEP/WPA/etc protection to the retransmitted signal. So while this may not be a solution for cafes, etc - it certainly is a fantastic one for hotels!
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I believe there are a few apps in the market which can automate this for some portals, but it's basically just scraping the page and trying to guess some information to put in, etc, so it won't work 100% of the time.
I haven't used any, so no specific suggestions, but here's a few from search:
https://play.google.com/store/search?q=wifi login

i have this exact problem with the wifi in the pub i chef in. our broadband is provided by HEINEKEN beer. we also must connect then load browser window to accept terms.
the pub owner would also like it removed to allow people to auto-connect in the normal way because obviously when a customer steps outside for a ciggerette as it is illegal to smoke inside a public place in the uk now,. they would then need to keep re-connecting theyre phones/tablets...
ive managed to switch a total of 8 staff and about 25 customers to ditching ios for android there normaly at least 3 nexus 7's at any one time in my pub now :victory::victory: and our bar now also has nfc tags.

The app Wi-fi web login seems to be working for me.

Evening Yallll - Wifi question for yas!!!

OK so device is a - LG D80210B - 16GB - UK - EE - UNLOCKED - ROOTED - StockMOD rom with update package. 4.5gb storage space left.
2nd device is a - HTC ONE 16gb - STOCK - NO ROOT
3rd device is a - SAMSUNG RV510 Laptop.
Im on EE uk network on both phones with EE ADSL Broadband at both mine and my partners house.
Now.... One would assume everything from the same company would be simple... If only that was the case! haha.:silly:
Now which ever property I visit within 15 - 20 minutes of being on the Wi-Fi the LG G2 kicks everybody out of the router, all at the same time. No one can access the network until one of 2 things happens... either I disconnect for 15mins plus or the router gets restarted nothing else will bring back the internet. Note - This does NOT happen when I am not present and surfing can be achieved all day on any device.
So ive spoken to the useless turds at EE technical support on the phone about 30 x they have absolutely no idea what the issue is but its definitely only related to my device. There suggestion is to cancel and go back to sky (which worked flawlessly previously to EE being installed). this is an option but it means another month with no internet at all and I also get an additional 10GB of 4GEE data on my phone allowance if I have there broadband so it would be beneficial to keep it.
Things ive tried;
Every different setting under the sun.
Different encryption.
Static IP addresses.
DCHP settings.
the brightbox will only broadcast internet on 2.4ghz as well if it helps anyone diagnose.
Using a known router as an access point to see if that solves the issue - again perfect until I log on.
Tech support.
Search the net and forums on here.
Spoken to a networking wizard mate of mine.
The problem seems to lie in the LG G2 and/or Jellybean firmware currently installed and installed as stock as the fault is not present when I log off the Wi-Fi...
So..... I decided to try a different rom, the Slim Kat rom
The Wi-Fi works flawlessly for me and everyone else however the rom is just too unstable at the moment to be a daily driver. It doesn't have the complete knock on knock off features and I don't really like the look I much prefer the stock rom as well as some of the games I play just will not work.
Now ive had and been flashing smartphones for about 8 yrs with the help of you lot on here leedroid especially was one of my faves so im not a novice or anything im just lost for what else to do or try????
Has anyone else experienced anything similar?! I would send it away to see if its a hardware fault but as it works perfectly on kitkat I assume its got to be some kind of bug in jellybean.
OR ive changed something that's ****** it up.
I would really appreciate any imput at all because I have a phone I cant use at my partners house or at home ...
Cheers brett

Just to add it also does it when Im on my own i.e. just the phone.

bump for today.... this is really breaking me now as no one can use the wifi for longer then 15 minutes lol

So theres not one single person that has even the faintest idea of what my issue may be?

Someone had this issue before, read about it. A router update fixed their issue. If setting device static, the router also needs to be configured to hold it, try this with all devices and lock local IP's. Next, leave a device off and see if it gets kicked. The G2 seems a bit picky with routers... On the Comcast Technicolor, it won't push past 3.5 dl, but max up. Some old drt firmware has problems as well.

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Someone had this issue before, read about it. A router update fixed their issue. If setting device static, the router also needs to be configured to hold it, try this with all devices and lock local IP's. Next, leave a device off and see if it gets kicked. The G2 seems a bit picky with routers... On the Comcast Technicolor, it won't push past 3.5 dl, but max up. Some old drt firmware has problems as well.
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Thanks for the reply dude...
Yeah tried to update it but its telling me its on the most recent software even though its date is 2010. Called tech support they say it up to date.
I can set the IP in the DHCP section of the router but I cannot for one second find out how to do it on the phone... do you know?
I used DHCP to assign a static IP to both phones, the Nintendo wii, the sky box and the laptop, so they always pick up that IP from the router without fail. I also set the DHCP settings so that it does not conflict with any of the locked IP's just incase - so DHCP is from 192.168.1.2 - 192.168.1.99
Its not a router problem as much as id like to blame it on that because I used my old known working sky router as an access point to connect to as well and that make absolutely no difference apart from slow it down because it doesn't support "N" mode.
Its an EE brightbox router - piece of *****
I can leave the other 4 devices connected to the router 24/7 with no issue until I connect the LG G2. Then all devices are booted at the same time usually 15-20 mins sometimes less. never more. it also only occurs when just the LG is connected. Like now my phone is stuck at recovery ATM (another problem im trying to solve) and the internet hasn't dropped once my partner is on it and so is the sky box so its DEFO my phone that's doing the bad.
That's ODD that isn't it my up and downstream in the router are both above 10meg although the attenuation and line noise keep changing.
cheers for the input

In wifi menu of phone, hold on connection and select modify. Check show advanced options, chose static, input data(along with password again). Reboot phone. After you fix it of course.

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In wifi menu of phone, hold on connection and select modify. Check show advanced options, chose static, input data(along with password again). Reboot phone. After you fix it of course.
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I ended up getting a new router that seems to be ok so far... what does that actually do? Thank you so much for it suggestions
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Sets static for phone. Has to be set on both router and phone. I just found out the G2 has some issue with AES on certain routers. Try TKP only. I had to do this with my other Technicolor. Odd thing is AES works fine on the SB 6141. Lost on that one.

Had exactly the same issue with my shiny new G2. Using a Netgear modem/Router. I upgraded the firmware and that seems to have fixed it. It was killing the Router within about a minute of use. Now running 25 minutes without any drops. Fingers crossed it's permanent.
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Galaxy Note 3 Wifi Issues

I have had my new Galaxy Note 3 for about 3 weeks now, and have had an issue with certain apps not connecting to the internet over wifi. All of the google apps (youtube, play store, hangouts, gmail, etc) are not able to connect to the internet over any wifi hotspot, or if they do, they're painfully slow.
I have changed MTU settings on my home router, DNS settings, wifi auto switch is off on the phone.
Here's the kicker. If I enable airplane mode first, then turn wifi on, everything works great. I suspect this to somehow be related to the SIM card? Really should have nothing to do with wifi, but who knows...
I should add that I've owned a couple other android phones that have had this issue, but it seemed to have just "worked itself out" after a day or so. (Droid 4, Stratosphere II)

Have you tried a 30/30/30 hard reset on the router yet?
Does a laptop connected via Wi-Fi also have similar issues?
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I have hard reset and factory reset the router a few times, even went so far as to buy a brand new router and use it. No difference.
I get 26/8 speeds on two different laptops, and one desktop, all with ping times down to about 18ms (as shown on speedtest.net)

spoke with a helpful rep at verizon today, who supposedly called samsung regarding this fix while I was on hold. My replacement should be here tomorrow. This issue is exactly the same as when older android phones would not connect to google (signal indicators would be white instead of blue). It seems like something to do with ssl traffic.
Anyhow, will post back after i've played with the replacement for a bit.

syntheticexctasy said:
I have hard reset and factory reset the router a few times, even went so far as to buy a brand new router and use it. No difference.
I get 26/8 speeds on two different laptops, and one desktop, all with ping times down to about 18ms (as shown on speedtest.net)
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spoke with a helpful rep at verizon today, who supposedly called samsung regarding this fix while I was on hold. My replacement should be here tomorrow. This issue is exactly the same as when older android phones would not connect to google (signal indicators would be white instead of blue). It seems like something to do with ssl traffic.
Anyhow, will post back after i've played with the replacement for a bit.
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The next most common thing that it would be is the channel that your router is set to. You want to use a frequency that has little interference and there is an app called WiFi Analyzer to help figure it out for your surroundings.
The reason that the laptops might work ok is because the channel can be set within Windows and are most likely set to a different random number between 1-11 than your phone is.

I have found open channels and used those, which made no difference. I believe this may be a google issue as evidenced here (granted these guys are talking about the nexus 5, the issue is very much the same)
https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/nexus/SN03aclu7B8[1-25-false]
I received my replacement today, no dice. I also bought a new router today, no dice. I've tried every channel 1-12, no dice.
The only thing that works is to enable airplane mode, then turn wifi on. I then see full speeds on play store, youtube, gmail, and hangouts. Interestingly enough, the facebook app is affected by this, as well as all push notifications.
It should be noted that the replacement note 3 exhibits the exact same behavior. This leads me to believe there is a modem issue causing the phone to switch back and forth between LTE and wifi, or something along those lines (if the cell radio is off, wifi works great)

syntheticexctasy said:
I received my replacement today, no dice. I also bought a new router today, no dice. I've tried every channel 1-12, no dice.
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The only thing that works is to enable airplane mode, then turn wifi on. I then see full speeds on play store, youtube, gmail, and hangouts. Interestingly enough, the facebook app is affected by this, as well as all push notifications.
It should be noted that the replacement note 3 exhibits the exact same behavior. This leads me to believe there is a modem issue causing the phone to switch back and forth between LTE and wifi, or something along those lines (if the cell radio is off, wifi works great)
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That is truly odd. I suppose it could be believable that an ISP throttled traffic to specific blocks (net neutrality anyone?), but I don't know why that would cause an interface change on the handset.
There are some apps which are network interface aware - e.g. as an example carriers will use split DNS and inbound IP firewalling so only people on their own network can resolve the IPs of MMS (APN) servers or *send* data to them. That prevents them from being DDOS'ed and I suppose other attacks from anything but their own network - which they have well instrumented. But that means that the MMS apps can not use whatever IP interface happens to be up - either for DNS service or for IP routing - so they need to be able to bring up a specific IP interface, use DNS that is bound through that interface, and route through that interface as well.
I was going through the apps on my phone the other night with a package browser (Package Explorer (Ribo), btw) and I was stunned at how many apps have "CHANGE_NETWORK_STATE" privileges.
What I'm wondering is if you have an app installed that has gone nuts and is toggling on/off your cell I/F. Something like that would be consistent with your observations.
Is there anything relevant happening in your device logcat when this is going on?
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That is truly odd. I suppose it could be believable that an ISP throttled traffic to specific blocks (net neutrality anyone?), but I don't know why that would cause an interface change on the handset.
There are some apps which are network interface aware - e.g. as an example carriers will use split DNS and inbound IP firewalling so only people on their own network can resolve the IPs of MMS (APN) servers or *send* data to them. That prevents them from being DDOS'ed and I suppose other attacks from anything but their own network - which they have well instrumented. But that means that the MMS apps can not use whatever IP interface happens to be up - either for DNS service or for IP routing - so they need to be able to bring up a specific IP interface, use DNS that is bound through that interface, and route through that interface as well.
I was going through the apps on my phone the other night with a package browser (Package Explorer (Ribo), btw) and I was stunned at how many apps have "CHANGE_NETWORK_STATE" privileges.
What I'm wondering is if you have an app installed that has gone nuts and is toggling on/off your cell I/F. Something like that would be consistent with your observations.
Is there anything relevant happening in your device logcat when this is going on?
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There are no apps installed other than the stock verizon/samsung apps. I have reset to factory in preparation for sending this unit back to vz, however it appears i'll be keeping it since the replacement didn't work any better.
Nothing interesting from logcat. Just a lot of IRListener messages, and DalvikVM occasionally clearing ram.

I can see why you would be pulling your hair out.
And the fact that you observe the same behavior with two different units (completely different hardware) and two different routers means one of two things:
- the problem is the handset/software
- the problem is not the handset/software.
Not trying to be funny there. What I mean by the above is that for you to pull two devices out of Samsung's production line at random (unless you happened to get two devices from a single batch of defective units), then the problem couldn't possibly be a low-probability defect thing: either it happens on a very large fraction of all N3 handsets, or the problem actually has nothing to do with the handset at all.
e.g. suppose Sammy shipped handsets where 1 out of 100 had the problem you observe. For you to end up with two of them in a row, the odds of that happening would be 1 in 10,000. If affected half of all handsets, then your odds would be more reasonable - 1 out of 4.
But it sure seems like if it affected half of all owners... or even 10% of all owners, people would be piling in in droves to complain.
I haven't noticed it on my N3, but I have other devices so I'm not sure how much I have used it for e.g. Youtube streaming. I do leave both WiFi and the cell on, and haven't noticed what is happening to you, but I am on MJ7 instead of MJE, and my WiFi is older (802.11g), so maybe if it is a bug it that wouldn't even show up with my setup even if it were the N3's fault.
(BTW, that offers a suggestion - because the N3 is so new it has 802.11ac capabilities - and I suppose your new router does too - if you turn off some capabilities, does the problem disappear? For instance turn off 802.11ac or 802.11n or 5Ghz band usage on the router, does that change anything?)
The other alternatives? Some kind of burst RF noise in your local environment? You earlier said
are not able to connect to the internet over any wifi hotspot, or if they do, they're painfully slow.
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were the "any wifi hotspot" APs that were all relatively close to a single location, or were they widely dispersed (miles apart)? If they were miles apart, then the problem isn't ISM-band interference. Even if it were, interference from non 802.11 devices (bluetooth devices, baby monitors, microwaves, some wireless cameras, etc) isn't going to show up using a scanning app. Relatively sophisticated equipment would be needed to make that determination. Or a search and destroy mission.
I will say that I had a similar problem a few weeks back (using completely different gear) - I was tethering to a different Android phone (USB tether), and Web browsing on the client device (N7 tab) was fine except the Google Play store app - data would only come dribbling out of it. I couldn't even complete a single app listing, much less begin an app download. At the time I just chalked it up to a temporary problem with Google's Play store. But now it makes me wonder if it isn't something more subtle - as you noted, Google servers seem to be a commonality you are observing. Maybe some ridiculous bug involving Google's single credential efforts?
Well, now I'm rambling and I really haven't given you a suggestion. Maybe something I said will jog you in a different direction and you'll figure it out. If it really is something generic to the current Note 3, it seems like Google would want to know about it. I wonder if it is even possible to get telephone support from Google - they don't really have a reputation as being a consumer-oriented business.
good luck
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Thank you for all of your help. I am sort of an amateur RF "enthusiast" myself. This happens in more than one location, literally every wifi location i've connected to.
I do believe on past handsets a new sim card sorted this out for some reason, however the vz rep that I spoke with activated a new one that I had gotten with the note 3, but not activated at the time, since my droid 4's sim card was "current enough".
I am lead to believe that this is a modem firmware issue, due to the fact that when the cell radio is off (doesn't matter if mobile data is on or off) the wifi works great. I am running MJE, and would be willing to try and downgrade to the previous radio to see if it makes a difference, but I don't know if that's even possible without causing some damage.
edit: I just realized that the replacement phone is running MJ7...so not sure it would matter.

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Ok guys, I figured this out, sort of.
I went into an angry router swapping/resetting frenzy when I figured out that the replacement acted the same.
My original setup consisted of: (I have a lot of wired devices in my house)
Comcast Gateway (set up as a normal cable modem, wifi/firewall/dhcp disabled) ----> Linksys WRT54G w/ DD-WRT (wifi off, using for firewall/routing) -----> Zonet N router (no dhcp, using as a switch, wifi off) --------> Linksys BEFW11S4 (used as a switch) ------> Netgear WNR1000V2 (used as a switch and second wifi access point occasionally)
During this frenzy, I eliminated the Zonet unit, and the BEFW11s4. My network now looks like this:
Comcast Gateway ----> Netgear WNR1000V2 (router/firewall/dhcp/wifi access point) -----> WRT54G (as a switch)
This seems to have solved my problem. I noticed while troubleshooting that if I disconnected the segment between the Zonet and the BEFW11S4, my phone would work perfectly fine. I believe that taking the BEFW11S4 out of the picture solved my problem, even though my data was not riding on that segment of the network.
Still, I am perplexed as to why the airplane mode trick fixed the issue.

LOL. I have a pile of Cisco routers if you want to buy them - and I'll throw in some token ring gear and another BEFW11S4 for free.
But seriously - you did the right thing by (experimentally) simplifying; the more complex an environment is, the more opportunities there are for bug expression.
Glad everything worked out - and I await your PM inquiring about my Cisco pile

I never wanted to upgrade from my WRT54G V1! What an awesome, rock solid router! However, need faster wireless speeds nowadays.
I was trying to keep that as my firewall, since the dd-wrt firewall is so much more robust than that of the netgear, also the netgear does not support nat loopback (something I really would like to have)