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I am thinking of switching from a Nexus 6p. Im disappointed with the audio quality from the headphone jack. I tested with my v-moda Crossfades and the sound is disappointing compared to my old the Note 5. It is very low. Since Huawei makes both is the audio quality poor too? Anyone test the audio quality compared to the Nexus 6p?
do u mean the audio quality is low or also the volume?
im using AKG K374 high quality earphones with my mate 8 and i must say im very impressed by the audio quality and volume. admittedly, im comparing it to my previous Nexus 5 which rather lacked in volume capacity at stock, but could be artificially boosted via custom mods. in that case though, the quality distorted quite noticeably with increasing volume. I dont hear this happening with the mate 8, u can crank up the volume to the max (not recommended, because the max volume is VERY high already at stock ) and there are still no distortions audible.
all in all, from a mediocre audiophile perspective (since i dont consider myself a high-end audiophile user but rather a medium to advanced one), I cant say i have anything to complain about
best thing for u to do is to check it out in person though, audio is a VERY subjective experience
More or less thé same using my kit, maybe a tiny bit lower volume and less bass
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the mate 8 headphone sound is way better and louder than nexus6p i tried it
I own the mate 8 and 6P
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thats what i meant with audio being very subjective haha
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The Mate 8 has fantastic sound in quality headphones. The dynamic range and clarity is incredible. It's just as good as my Meizu Pro 5 that has an internal DAC built into it. Never experienced better sound in any other phone.
I usually use my Sennheiser Momentum or Focal Spirit One headsets for listening to music and I can tell that Mate 8 kind of sucks at this chapter. Volume is pretty low, mids are mixed with highs and there's no sound stage whatsoever. Luckily, I still have my od iphone 4s which I use for listening to music, there is absolutely no comparison in audio quality.
Bottom line, imo: I wouldn't buy mate 8 for music, it sucks hard.
I own the mate 8 and iPhone 6s
the mate 8 sucks with 3.5 and Bluetooth audio
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This review reflects my own thoughts.
http://m.gsmarena.com/huawei_mate_8-review-1367p7.php
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dannejanne said:
This review reflects my own thoughts.
http://m.gsmarena.com/huawei_mate_8-review-1367p7.php
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I'm with you. The sound is fantastic.
maxld said:
I'm with you. The sound is fantastic.
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Yeah such depth in the sound. The range is great I hear sounds in songs I've never thought of before. Crystal clear. My Harman Kardon CL sounds fantastic with it.
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I'm sticking with whatever the audio that came with the phone. I just used AudioFX equalizer widget to change the equalizer, and I get the sound I want. Surprisingly the equalizer effect works also on 3rd party apps, not just the music apps. Very surprising, wondering if this is a fix done in a marshmallow.
I am having a similar problem, very good sound with my in-ear headphones, but catastrophic sound when plugging the mate 8 to my car stereo with a cinch cable. No problems with iPhone. How can that be? Could it be the cable? Should I buy one of those expensive ones with gold plugs etc.?
marcelo.emmerich said:
I am having a similar problem, very good sound with my in-ear headphones, but catastrophic sound when plugging the mate 8 to my car stereo with a cinch cable. No problems with iPhone. How can that be? Could it be the cable? Should I buy one of those expensive ones with gold plugs etc.?
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No idea. Today I have connected Mate 8 with mini jack - mini jack cable to my in-car aux and everything was okay. I didn't hear any quality drop.
I am a head-fier. With stock dts function enabled, I am quite amazed.
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I am a head-fier. With stock dts function enabled, I am quite amazed.
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For being a phone the sound in headphones is nothing short of amazing. I'm amazed every time I listen to music with my Harman Kardon CL.
I use it now NXT-L29 B170, Sennheiser MOMENTUM, and 1More, In-Ear.
The sound, simply fascinating, wonderful!
Much audio one mod I used it under the years, was never good, the stock rom.
Galaxy S2, Xperia X10, XperiaS, LG G2, Mate7, but, now the Mate8, the first telephone where the sound is not needed to touch it! :good:
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I use it now NXT-L29 B170, Sennheiser MOMENTUM, and 1More, In-Ear.
The sound, simply fascinating, wonderful!
Much audio one mod I used it under the years, was never good, the stock rom.
Galaxy S2, XperiaS, LG G2, Mate7, but, now the Mate8, the first telephone where the sound is not needed to touch it! :good:
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Agreed. Sound mods like Viper4Android or something seems like it would be counter-productive on this phone. It really does not need it. I've always wanted it on my previous phones. I don't want to mess with the sound to introduce noise or whatever. On this one I won't touch a thing it's pretty much perfect as is.
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Agreed. Sound mods like Viper4Android or something seems like it would be counter-productive on this phone. It really does not need it. I've always wanted it on my previous phones. I don't want to mess with the sound to introduce noise or whatever. On this one I won't touch a thing it's pretty much perfect as is.
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Yeah!
Maybe, yet so much, i the Chinese music app I use it.
I listen music, 320 kbit/s of MP3 online, on the other hand to download, because of the regio only 128 kbit/s.
okay , we are all stuck by that obnoxious noise of earphone in our MI a1 . some say its due to bad quality earphone ( but believe me i tried good ones too ) . so i want to know whether its hardware issue or it can be fixed by software?
I strongly believe that this issue can be solved by a software update. I've seen people facing this issue even on Bluetooth headphones so it is likely that Xiaomi can fix it. All we can do for now is just wait. Im hoping for a fix as soon as possible.
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I strongly believe that this issue can be solved by a software update. I've seen people facing this issue even on Bluetooth headphones so it is likely that Xiaomi can fix it. All we can do for now is just wait. Im hoping for a fix as soon as possible.
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think of worst case scenario i am gonna replace my device soon
I'm using some Earphones that came with a zenfone 3 and the hissing noise is there but it's not that loud and I can only really hear it when a song stops is it worse for other people because it's no where near a deal breaker for me. I never even noticed until I read it was there and now I've noticed my shield K1 has it too
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To be honest this issue doesn't bother me that much, if it won't be fixed by a software update i will just buy myself new pair of earphones that dont produce aby hissing. Considering how much advantages this phone has i would be able to invest in new earphones to get rid od this issue. As I said, only thing we can do right now is just wait.
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To be honest this issue doesn't bother me that much, if it won't be fixed by a software update i will just buy myself new pair of earphones that dont produce aby hissing. Considering how much advantages this phone has i would be able to invest in new earphones to get rid od this issue. As I said, only thing we can do right now is just wait.
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people facing issue with earphones like cx 180 and even there own mi basic makes that noise
robgee789 said:
I'm using some Earphones that came with a zenfone 3 and the hissing noise is there but it's not that loud and I can only really hear it when a song stops is it worse for other people because it's no where near a deal breaker for me. I never even noticed until I read it was there and now I've noticed my shield K1 has it too
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so what do u think its hardware issue or software issue ?
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To be honest this issue doesn't bother me that much, if it won't be fixed by a software update i will just buy myself new pair of earphones that dont produce aby hissing. Considering how much advantages this phone has i would be able to invest in new earphones to get rid od this issue. As I said, only thing we can do right now is just wait.
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Same, the advantage of the phone is more than the hissing noise. Heck even the Xiaomi own In Ear Pro HD with 32ohms also got this issue.
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okay , we are all stuck by that obnoxious noise of earphone in our MI a1 . some say its due to bad quality earphone ( but believe me i tried good ones too ) . so i want to know whether its hardware issue or it can be fixed by software?
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So here you go
Go to settings - sounds - other sounds - off the touch sound
I am facing this issue with soundmagic es 150 but what all are getting wrong is that it is not a software problem. Actually our Mi A1 produces a 10 V amplification as compared to the 2V produced by normal smartphones and hence require earphone/headphone with higher impedance buy some good impedance(somewhat costly) ear/head phones and this problem will be gone.
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I am facing this issue with soundmagic es 150 but what all are getting wrong is that it is not a software problem. Actually our Mi A1 produces a 10 V amplification as compared to the 2V produced by normal smartphones and hence require earphone/headphone with higher impedance buy some good impedance(somewhat costly) ear/head phones and this problem will be gone.
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it a bit sucks, as i bought my AT 50x with impedance of 38ohm to be able to feed them from phone / tablet ))
software update could give us at lease equalizer where you could change preamplification to battle the hissing.
on ATH50x hissing is lower compared to samsung in ears from galaxy., where it's awful..
but nothing new, this hissing was present also on Redmi Note 4 in MIUI 8+9 so i would say xiaomi sucks at audio quality in general.
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So here you go
Go to settings - sounds - other sounds - off the touch sound
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Already turned of the touch sounds yet i am facing the hissing noise
Soundmagic E10C doesn't have this issue.. May be due to its 46 Ohm impedance ...
Impedance adaptor solves the problem
jeneb11 said:
okay , we are all stuck by that obnoxious noise of earphone in our MI a1 . some say its due to bad quality earphone ( but believe me i tried good ones too ) . so i want to know whether its hardware issue or it can be fixed by software?
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Using an impedance adaptor from Ali express solved the problem. I used the 75 ohm one.
Just search for "Impedance adapter". There is no hissing sound now.
It seems no matter what phone you pair with in ear earphones, they all hiss + cannot playback properly at very low volumes. However full size headphones have no problem.
I think its something to do with small earphones being more sensitive, there is alot of components in a phone which are close proximity to the audio components.
Anyone who says they dont notice anything is because the volume is loud enough to cover it.
You can buy impedance adapter for like 5-15 bucks, or build yourself one with let's say 60-70ohms, it is way cheaper and super easy this way. 3.5mm on Mi A1 is 10v so you need higher impedance to lower the hissing noise (reduce voltage coming to earphones).
I am using PC headphones and I almost can't hear hissing on them since they are way bigger than those small IEMs and can handle greater voltages compared to those smaller IEMs.
Sorry for the post ressurection but this is all a matter of the Preamp being so great on the "Mi A1" that low-impedance headphones won't just cope "with all that juice". I myself was being driven nuts with all the hissing on my 23Ohm CX300 Sennheiser in-ear phones that only after reading a reddit post on this subject and finally connecting my 300-Ohm Sennheiser HD580 did I notice not only the hissing was gone for good, but also that by using the fantastic settings enabled by a simple, free app called Precise Volume, my HD580 were brought new portable life that no other DAP before it could provide it with!
Is there any flashable mod to get Dirac™ on custom rom?
Thanks.
Is hissing noise present in custom roms?
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Yes
It doesn't matter what type of rom or kernel you use
It depends on the headphones
More than 32 ohms and you won't hear hissing
berezker said:
Yes
It doesn't matter what type of rom or kernel you use
It depends on the headphones
More than 32 ohms and you won't hear hissing
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Thanks. I made a mistake by investing money in this device I guess.
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Thanks. I made a mistake by investing money in this device I guess.
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Invest in higher Ohm earphone/headphones then. ?
LouisMuruu said:
Invest in higher Ohm earphone/headphones then.
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So you are saying "I should spend money because xiaomi *ucked up."
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So you are saying "I should spend money because xiaomi *ucked up."
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Haha, nah man, I'm just saying, yeah xiaomi effed up in this but maybe you could use it to convince yourself to buy new headphones ?
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Haha, nah man, I'm just saying, yeah xiaomi effed up in this but maybe you could use it to convince yourself to buy new headphones
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??? Yeah I guess so.
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??? Yeah I guess so.
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Look up on VE Monk $5 HIFI earbuds. Crazy cheap but gives awesome sound quality, and it's 64 Ohms.
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Thanks. I made a mistake by investing money in this device I guess.
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It's a great phone don't get me wrong but I don't know why xiaomi used a ""high end dac that needs high impedance headphones""
You have 2 options
1- get headphones with higher than 32 ohms
2- Lower treble and increase bass to drown the hissing (Use Viper4Android FX equalizer if you have root)
It can pretty much hide most hissing sounds
I think it is good thing they put DAC in Mi A1, it just makes phone more superior than other phones. We have great cam (Gcam), premium feel build, 3.5mm jack thanks to God and Dirac HD. I love quality sound and this DAC really makes difference to me. Come on people, you spent like $200 on a phone and now you can't buy $20 headphones with higher impedance...
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I think it is good thing they put DAC in Mi A1, it just makes phone more superior than other phones. We have great cam (Gcam), premium feel build, 3.5mm jack thanks to God and Dirac HD. I love quality sound and this DAC really makes difference to me. Come on people, you spent like $200 on a phone and now you can't buy $20 headphones with higher impedance...
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nope, the funny thing is that using the best xiaomi headphones, like the piston 3 or the hybrid hd i get a so intense hissing sound that it is barely usable in calm situations, which is pretty much when i need it
so nope, spending more money is not what is needed
by the way, hybrid pro, impedance = 32 ohms, pistons 3 impedance = 32 ohms
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nope, the funny thing is that using the best xiaomi headphones, like the piston 3 or the hybrid hd i get a so intense hissing sound that it is barely usable in calm situations, which is pretty much when i need it
so nope, spending more money is not what is needed
by the way, hybrid pro, impedance = 32 ohms, pistons 3 impedance = 32 ohms
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I can hear this hissing with my Icon X too?
Maybe it's not Xiaomi fault, just our heads have some hissing
N1ck474 said:
I can hear this hissing with my Icon X too
Maybe it's not Xiaomi fault, just our heads have some hissing
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the same headphones in a xiaomi mi 4c has 0 hissing
akrai said:
the same headphones in a xiaomi mi 4c has 0 hissing
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Yeah, jk, obv with Bluetooth headphones zero problems...
Hope for a fix one day...
Hey, just to clear some things out. To fully eliminate hissing you will need hi-fi system that costs more than $300 and a HQ sound such as FLAC. Don't fool yourselves with this hissing thing, I bet 99% of you didn't noticed hissing at all on the other devices you had, but now when 1 person states that he/she hears hissing on MI A1, everyone else will hear it as you will focus more on hearing hissing noise. IF no one mentioned hissing all of you wouldn't be commenting about it. Yeah, hissing is a bit more present because of 10V DAC, but for example 32Ohms earbuds as mentioned above will fix it, but you must use better bitrate for listening, 128kbps MP3 isn't good enough. 256 or 320kbps is pretty much enough for this built-in DAC
The reason why you hear hissing is because your headphones are overpowered. Get something that isn't crap, like actual headphones instead of $20 earbuds.
My god, the problem is with the phone not the headphones. It should work with every headphones like the rest of phones do, and yes I have very good headphones and I have already tried to use this phone to watch videos but it's unbearable.
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Err, any progress in finding any Dirac port for our phone? Please do let us know if anyone found any working Dirac port for our phones apart from viper/dolby. Will try to look for it too from my side
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My god, the problem is with the phone not the headphones. It should work with every headphones like the rest of phones do, and yes I have very good headphones and I have already tried to use this phone to watch videos but it's unbearable.
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There is no problem. Xiaomi decided to put more powerful DAC. Someone will like it, someone will not, It's the same with leaving audio jack on smartphones, someone is ok with it someone is not. For me the sound on this phone is excellent.
Hi experts,
I'm a long time Xiaomi user coming from Mi A1 thinking to buy this Mi 9T in US.
I'm not to happy with the A1 audio quality, especially over the headphones. I tried different brands, but not much luck. My GF has a note6pro, my family 5a..
Looking at the gsmarena site they are not impressed too with headphone test on this model, not sure it can be trusted though.
My main concern is the microphone and echo/noise canceling.
Can you guys give me a "real life review"?!
Check other thread, there many other (me included) confirm audio quality is suprisingly good, contrary to rumors. Maybe updates improved it?
I can say it is just as good as my amazing LG V20 with quad DAC! And the LG V series are the bechmark when it comes to android audio quality.
Only my problem is that volume is low, but AFAIK that is EU regulations, and should be easy to hack/fix, and would not apply anyway AFAIK for US version.
Just got my Mi 9T, and it is just STUNNING! A piece of art. I still catch myself staring at its beauty.
I would like to know about this too. And once again, there is NO EU regulation limiting volume. Manufacturers are meant to warn users when the volume is getting loud so they can confirm they want to proceed. If the phone companies can't read the rules, that's not the EU's fault. Enough with the fake news.
There's two modes of audio in the 9t "hi-fi" or regular.
I think that the option it's meant to switch from the audio chip modes, regular or performance (I think it's the best chip it has Qualcomm for audio, or at least they made it sound like that).
This performance mode uses more power, like 5 times more, and I am almost certain that gsmarena reviewed it without this setting on, that's why the poor results.
Look at this for more info of the chip.
https://www.qualcomm.com/products/wcd9375
Interesting for the consuption I didn't know ! and I can confirm that the sound quality is very good.
For the volume mine is very loud, impossible to put at max but it depend of your earphones impedance and many others things. (you have to play good quality sample music like FLAC and a good player like "AIMP" or "Poweramp" that can be "bit perfect"
Yes, I did a blind test against my creative Sound Blaster E1 (the phone supports DACs over USB C as well) and it is indistinguishable from that nice and proper DAC, IN THE HI-FI MODE. The source was lossless stuff from Tidal and the earbuds used were my trusty HiFiMan RE400a earbuds. I can verify that one has to listen at like two clicks below the full volume for everything to come through (i.e. the volume is a bit low, but baseline audio performance is excellent)
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Yes, I did a blind test against my creative Sound Blaster E1 (the phone supports DACs over USB C as well) and it is indistinguishable from that nice and proper DAC, IN THE HI-FI MODE. The source was lossless stuff from Tidal and the earbuds used were my trusty HiFiMan RE400a earbuds. I can verify that one has to listen at like two clicks below the full volume for everything to come through (i.e. the volume is a bit low, but baseline audio performance is excellent)
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That's nice to hear.
mic
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That's nice to hear.
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I would be also interested in the microphone handling in the topic of Audit quality. On Mi A1 ppl always complained when I was using a headset as the noise canceling part did not work. Same for Speaker mode..
Also why "Hi-Fi audio" is not on by default as it claims to increase audio quality.
Regarding the phone calls I can tell that my factory set 9T is poor. I cannot hear and understand what people say when calling. (Never had this on any phone before) Weird sound and some echo. And nowhere any audio settings in phone.
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Regarding the phone calls I can tell that my factory set 9T is poor. I cannot hear and understand what people say when calling. (Never had this on any phone before) Weird sound and some echo. And nowhere any audio settings in phone.
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I don't have that problem. Phone calls are clear
Regarding audio quality over a headphone jack = it is worst audio quality I have ever tested from any smartphone be honest. I also know people who see it the same way. I went to Mi9T from Pocophone and never had this issue there - poco is still in my house, I gave it to my wife so I can really compare between the two. Tried both normal and hi-fi modes on Mi9T.
Audio over BT is fine on other hand - thats most important for me
I was testing audio quality on SONY WH-1000MX3
What could be the reason for this I dont know. The audio chip should be great. I have tried many versions of MIUI as well.
Tested right now with Beyerdynamic dt770 Pro 250 Ohm version. My source file is from deezer to have a better idea of an average quality of a song someone might listen to.
Hi-Fi is enabled and i can say that audio quality is pretty good. I wouldn't compare it to LG Quad Dac but the phone is powering 250 Ohm studio headphones very well.
People usually evaluate audio quality by the amount of bass. IMO its good enough.
@Nexus5-32GB I have the same impression. I came from a Zuk Z2 Pro and audio quality is poor. Bass is OK but mids and treble are too high. I'm using the same Senheiser MX-30G as always and the difference is noticiable even in Hi-Fi. My wife's Redmi 4A have better sound.
I am using poweramp music player to listen to music, and the audio quality is just superb! Previously I used google play music with mi sound enhancer and the audio quality is pretty mediocre compared to poweramp.
I tested hifi with AudioTechnica M50. It does make a difference and I feel it is a lot louder so much that I'm afraid of pushing volume to max. I like my hearing very much. You don't need portable amps with this phone for the most part. It's probably not audiophile approved or something like that but it sounds very full.
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@Nexus5-32GB I have the same impression. I came from a Zuk Z2 Pro and audio quality is poor. Bass is OK but mids and treble are too high. I'm using the same Senheiser MX-30G as always and the difference is noticiable even in Hi-Fi. My wife's Redmi 4A have better sound.
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What player are you using?
Using Google play the sound it's ****.
Using Tidal it's heaven, don't know why.
Exactly, if you use it right the sound is very good but if you listen mp3 with googlemusic, sure the best earphones can't do anything for you
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What player are you using?
Using Google play the sound it's ****.
Using Tidal it's heaven, don't know why.
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I don't think it's a player issue 'cause I always use the same player. I always compare the sound using Spotify. I use Spotify on all my family devices.
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I don't think it's a player issue 'cause I always use the same player. I always compare the sound using Spotify. I use Spotify on all my family devices.
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Yeah, it doesn't make any sense, I know, but in my case that happend, playing throug play music was horrible and understandable that people complain about it, but with Tidal it's beyond anything i've heard.
Other users have notified that they too notice when playing through play music.
actually is awesome
brombadeg said:
Hi experts,
I'm a long time Xiaomi user coming from Mi A1 thinking to buy this Mi 9T in US.
I'm not to happy with the A1 audio quality, especially over the headphones. I tried different brands, but not much luck. My GF has a note6pro, my family 5a..
Looking at the gsmarena site they are not impressed too with headphone test on this model, not sure it can be trusted though.
My main concern is the microphone and echo/noise canceling.
Can you guys give me a "real life review"?!
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Coming from a zte axon 7 I was really doubtful about the sound quality, but I'm impressed about it, it has a hifi logo on the box and sounds really good, with a couple of good headphones I can't listen no difference with the zte axon 7, also had a poco f1 and it sounds a thousand times better than the poco
Im thinking of buying the 9T but one reviewer said that the audio quality is bad. How is it?
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Im thinking of buying the 9T but one reviewer said that the audio quality is bad. How is it?
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I had OP3T and it's not bad. Now I'm on 9T and have no complaints
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no issues here playing music over BT headphones Sony WH-1000MK3, sound is perfect....
speaker is amazing imho, much louder than any other built-in speaker in smartphone I had chance to test
I agree sound is very good. i think the best then on any other xiaomi mobile phone.
in compare with mi8 it is double better and in compare with huawei mate 10pro, it is 100% better on mi9t
Good for me to, what do you think of the new "Hi-Fi audio" setting ? do you use it ? whit this option activated you cannot use the Mi sound enhancer, what do you prefer and for whitch earphone ?
Yeah, actually GREAT quality! They did not lie about High Res Audio.
Only thing is, it is pretty low volume (on Mi9T), but that is AFAIK because of stupid EU regulations.
I hope someone will make a tweak to enable higher volume, but the sound quality alone is amazing, just as good if not better than the LG V20 with their quad DAC.
Yeah it's amazing quality and enabling hi fi audio should really improve if you're using nice headphones.
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Im thinking of buying the 9T but one reviewer said that the audio quality is bad. How is it?
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Coming from a ZTE axón 7 (which is one of the best sounding phones) gotta Say I'm impressed with the mi9t , it has a hi-fi logo on the box, and using it with brainwavz headphones the sound is really really good, up to the axón 7 somehow