Guys we have received ARcore support for many of the phones that have released now and zenfone max Pro M1 deserves to be a phone that support it.
Please have your opinion about it and request the company to enable it as soon as possible incorporation with the Google it is possible on our phone and it will be very good for the community if we can do this together it will be achievement
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I just heard that Vulkan API is coming to mobile and it is supporting PowerVR chips like the one we have on the phone.
(PowerVR G6430). Some people say on the ZENTALK forum that that's why it takes so much freaking time for Asus to implement Marshmallow as they are busy incorporating the API on the phone.
If this is true just image the gigantic boost it will give to our phones! (just watch on Youtube or search on Google for more information about Vulkan API)
If Vulkan API is implemented at our phone it would be fantastic. Hope Asus will work on the API and make the best for our phone, let's see in a couple of months of so
Too good to be true man, too good to be true.
hi, I'm very interested in everything about vulkan since i could see some videos about it. But my knowledge about api, android and rom's is not that good, so i would thank you if i could get some answers.
1 - Is this implementation of API a work for ASUS or Intel?
2 - Since i saw that PowerVR Rogue has now SDK(i dont know what it is) for Vulkan, Is ANYONE able to make a custom rom that could use Vulkan?
3 - I've heard that Android N will have native support for Vulkan. Does it mean that if i download a custom rom, like a cyanogenmod, for Android N to my Zenfone 2 i will have the benefits of using Vulkan?
4 - Does anyone know if that Galasy S7 that had 135k+ on antutu was using Vulkan? Because my Zenfone 2 is a great phone and only scores 65k, it's scary to thing that a S7 should have more than the double of hardware capacity that my Zenfone has. I thing that should be because of vulkan, but i need to hear it from someone who knows what's talking.
I hope to get answers for this questions. Thank you all.
SSJMatt said:
)Some people say on the ZENTALK forum that that's why it takes so much freaking time for Asus to implement Marshmallow as they are busy incorporating the API on the phone.
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Sorry, that's not how ASUS usually manages fixes and updates. That would take time and money and we've already spent our money so they have nothing to gain, therefore nothing will happen. Only future customers are a priority for ASUS.
A happy ASUS customer is one with low expectations.
Well, at least It'd give Asus a good excuse for being so late...
Vulkan is something that would need to be implemented at the OS level on Android (mainly the kernel, no idea what other bits Google is including in the rest of the OS). And support for each hardware would need to be provided by the OEM or manufacturers. It MAY be possible for a custom ROM to implement Vulkan support in some fashion in a current version of Android (harder and more "impossible" things have been accomplished) but it's not likely due to too many technical challenges. Besides, it wouldn't happen until after Android N is released and the AOSP code is posted. Only then would someone attempt to backport Vulkan.
I'm not 100% sure, but I do believe that Vulkan support will be a requirement by Google for devices to run Android N. So if Asus does plan on upgrading the phones then they will need to include a kernel for the hardware that supports Vulkan and those drivers would come from Intel. So the chance of the Zenfone supporting Vulkan is 100%, provided Asus upgrades it to N.
SSJMatt said:
I just heard that Vulkan API is coming to mobile and it is supporting PowerVR chips like the one we have on the phone.
(PowerVR G6430). Some people say on the ZENTALK forum that that's why it takes so much freaking time for Asus to implement Marshmallow as they are busy incorporating the API on the phone.
If this is true just image the gigantic boost it will give to our phones! (just watch on Youtube or search on Google for more information about Vulkan API)
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So is the VULCAN API present in the M update?
Is Vulkan something like the Mantle for Desktops?
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Vulkan Drivers for Nexus Player
Google’s Android Image
As part of the Android N Developer Preview 2 release, Google released an Android N image for the Nexus Player that includes Vulkan drivers. You can find out more about the Android N Developer Preview here and can download the image here. As this image is officially supported by Google, we recommend using it for Vulkan Android development.
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https://community.imgtec.com/developers/powervr/vulkan/
There is two possibilities:
1- Vulkan added in Android N's mainline code, and CM14 (maybe) will do this too.
2- Vulkan driver will be only in manufacters Android N's source. In this case, will be needed to be backported.
In both possibilites, isnt impossible to do it, even without Asus help. But would be awesome if some official MM give it to us (not in the first version, obviously).
Its GPU manufacturer job to implement vulkan, they provide the drivers to OEM manufacturer implement it on their otas. Nvidia already did that on latest MM update to shield TV and shield tablet.
Hello Mi fans,
Xiaomi is very concerned about the issue of upgrading Android O that everyone cares about at present.The MIUI developers have already sent R&D staff to the relevant adaptation team and they hope to help you solve the problems encountered at an early date.
The latest developments (7.18 update):
1. After nearly two weeks of efforts Mi 5s was able to upgrade Android O's ultrasonic fingerprint technology to find a feasible solution. At present Xiaomi R&D team cooperates with Qualcomm R&D experts to start intense development and adaptation work. During this period more underlying code changes are involved. To ensure stability related work may last for a period of time. The estimated upgrade time is November. MIUI developers are doing their utmost to complete this adaptation work as soon as possible.
2. After active communication, the technical difficulties of the Mi 5s Plus model dual camera module have found a feasible solution. The Xiaomi R&D team and the Qualcomm dual camera module teams are working overtime. Since the underlying code part needs more adjustments.It is expected that the upgrade time will be in early October and MIUI developers will speed up the progress to complete the adaptation work as soon as possible!
MIUI developers also understand the eagerness of everyone to upgrade Android O. Because the ultrasonic fingerprint module and the dual camera module are supported by Qualcomm.They actively researched the solution together with Qualcomm as originally planned. At present there are some progress but there is no final conclusion. After a clear conclusion, developers will announce the public in the forum for the first time.
There have been rumors that the Mi 5s/Mi 5s Plus is an ODM model recently! These two mobile phones are Mi self-developed models and they are not ODM models as well as will not allow other manufacturers to adapt.
Source: http://www.miui.com/thread-16239140-1-1.html
Thank you for sharing it Fahim! [emoji2]
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Hey guys,
I know we all are suffering from the ignorance and arrogance of mobile companies for not enbaling camera2api on there product. Thus we have to go under a long process to enable it and even it is sometimes impossible on some models(e.g. Redmi note for on MIUI10). Thus I have started a petition to request Mi to enable Camera2api by default on their mobiles by pushing an OTA.
Please sign and spread.
Together we can make this happen.
Link:-https://www.change.org/p/xiaomi-users-enable-camera2api-in-xiaomi-mobiles-by-default-770a882d-8ead-4838-8c53-cf3b2787214f?recruiter=369647496&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink&utm_campaign=tap_basic_share&utm_term=457885
Do you guys think we will get Android 10 update?
Yup. Asus has confirmed that max pro M1 will get android Q. They made this statement during release of 9 pie.
william.johhn7! said:
Yup. Asus has confirmed that max pro M1 will get android Q. They made this statement during release of 9 pie.
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Its not confirmed and honestly don't keep high hopes.
I remember Asus promising two major updates to ZMP M1 at launch. A Q&A session with one of their official also indicated this. BUT "major system update" cannot be conclusively termed as Android P & Q if we go by the track record of companies. In fact, we have seen brands go back on their solemn promise (Moto ?) only to face backlash and then provide a delayed update.
Long story short - we have a good probability of getting Q but don't bet your life on it - not yet !
yes definitely we will get Android 10 on Pro M1 but in 2020 when google is about to launch android 11....remember android pie released officially by google and asus gave that after almost 10 months passed....with beta program and still too many bugs....we all know that asus camera result is so poor....IT IS STRICTLY NECESSARY ASUS SHOULD COMPLETELY CHANGE THEIR SOFTWARE ENGINEER TEAM OTHERWISE IT WILL LOSE MOBILE BUSINESS...
What about custom Rom development of Android 10, it has been officially launched today.
Here I have found an easy way! Unlock Bootloader Asus ROG Phone 2
If we get android 10 (no hopes though) camera2api will be enabled by default as Google made it compulsory in aosp. Possible?
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If we get android 10 (no hopes though) camera2api will be enabled by default as Google made it compulsory in aosp.
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Compulsory? Since what version? I hope they ditch the Snapdragon Camera in favour of a good Google Camera.
SpiralX15 said:
Compulsory? Since what version? I hope they ditch the Snapdragon Camera in favour of a good Google Camera.
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Dude read and research first.
I had emailed to xiaomi global services and requested them to enable camera2 api feature by default in future updates, the email and their answer are in the attached pics and below:
Email:
Hello
I'm using mi a2 and suffering lack of camera2 api feature. I don't want to unlock and flash my phone due to bricking risk. So please enable camera2 api on Mi A2 by default, or at least inform us to wait fo feature or not.
Another thing is mi a2 secondary rear camera. It has PDAF and can do a better and smoother auto focus than main camera while video recording. (Main camera beating on auto focus). If that is possible please enable video recording by secondary rear camera on default camera app and other apps as photo shooting is enabled in camera app manual mode.
Xiaomi answer:
Dear Customer,
Greetings from Xiaomi Escalation Desk.
This is to inform you that Mi A2 uses native Google system, none of these default Settings have been changed,
and it is not recommended to change them manually, which may cause some system exception.
Thank you for being a valued customer.
Thanks & Regards,
Saif Ulla
Xiaomi Escalation Desk
Is seems they have no plan to enable it
Ah, I actually ripped my ass off on that,I sent them emails about Camera2 API, Created a bug report in Google AOSP website, even started a Twitter campaign and replied to every single tweet from Xiaomi with #ARCore_For_Mi_A2 and also #Camera2_API_For_Mi_A2. In emails they said they look into my suggestion which is basically the thing that companies do when people are asking them for an issue and they just want to get rid of it, And I went through a lot of pain being on Twitter doing that campaign because I was bored due to the massive amount of curses people were just saying to me and you know at the end Xiaomi actually blocked me from replying to their tweets so I pulled myself out of that game. According to papers Google forces OEMs on Enabling Camera2 API on devices shipped with Android pie and higher, Xiaomi wants to keep the amount of features in it's A series at minimum. Doesn't matter if it's just a simple API or ARCore or NFC, Xiaomi doesn't care about It's A series and tries to offer nothing more than what it's obligated to do from Google as an Android One OEM.
Xiaomeme is a good Hardware Company with bad Software, exactly opposite of Google.
Basically Xiaomeme's strategy is updating Android version and adding no features to it's Android One devices and Adding features and not updating the Android version on it's MIUI devices.
LonelyGlitch said:
Ah, I actually ripped my ass off on that,I sent them emails about Camera2 API, Created a bug report in Google AOSP website, even started a Twitter campaign and replied to every single tweet from Xiaomi with #ARCore_For_Mi_A2 and also #Camera2_API_For_Mi_A2. In emails they said they look into my suggestion which is basically the thing that companies do when people are asking them for an issue and they just want to get rid of it, And I went through a lot of pain being on Twitter doing that campaign because I was bored due to the massive amount of curses people were just saying to me and you know at the end Xiaomi actually blocked me from replying to their tweets so I pulled myself out of that game. According to papers Google forces OEMs on Enabling Camera2 API on devices shipped with Android pie and higher, Xiaomi wants to keep the amount of features in it's A series at minimum. Doesn't matter if it's just a simple API or ARCore or NFC, Xiaomi doesn't care about It's A series and tries to offer nothing more than what it's obligated to do from Google as an Android One OEM.
Xiaomeme is a good Hardware Company with bad Software, exactly opposite of Google.
Basically Xiaomeme's strategy is updating Android version and adding no features to it's Android One devices and Adding features and not updating the Android version on it's MIUI devices.
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What is the ARcore for? And why is it important on this device?
zwen0416 said:
What is the ARcore for? And why is it important on this device?
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Augmented Reality
For example you can stand next to a growling Hulk in a movie you shoot, or play games where space ships fly through your living room.
onimorza said:
Augmented Reality
For example you can stand next to a growling Hulk in a movie you shoot, or play games where space ships fly through your living room.
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Thanks! Just wondering if SXD670 is powerful enough to run this?
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Thanks! Just wondering if SXD670 is powerful enough to run this?
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Well I did use ARCore on MI A2 so it runs. (In case you are wondering, there is a way to enable ARCore if you have Magisk but discussing it here will be going OT)