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Hey guys,
I got my N10 in the very first batch, bought it on day one, so it's been around six months now. Lately, for the past month or so, I've been starting to experience some slowdowns, and it's starting to be hurting my experience a lot. My Chrome app, for instance, takes a long time to register, and if I press on the "Home" button to go back to my launcher, the button is highlighted in white for 5 seconds before effectively going back on the home menu. Does anyone know what can be done about that? I'm considering a factory reset, but I'd rather keep my saved data and files for my apps and not go through backing up my dozens of apps. Thanks

ttige said:
Hey guys,
I got my N10 in the very first batch, bought it on day one, so it's been around six months now. Lately, for the past month or so, I've been starting to experience some slowdowns, and it's starting to be hurting my experience a lot. My Chrome app, for instance, takes a long time to register, and if I press on the "Home" button to go back to my launcher, the button is highlighted in white for 5 seconds before effectively going back on the home menu. Does anyone know what can be done about that? I'm considering a factory reset, but I'd rather keep my saved data and files for my apps and not go through backing up my dozens of apps. Thanks
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First, don't use Chrome, it still sucks when compared to the AOSP browser, download the app Greenify from the store and use SD maid to delete all the unneeded stuff you have on your Nexus.:good:

You could try doing a factory reset and perhaps try installing a new ROM or kernel whilst you are at it as there can be speed gains with some of the alternatives to stock. It doesn't really take long to back up your apps with the right program. Have you looked at titanium backup?

ttige said:
Hey guys,
I got my N10 in the very first batch, bought it on day one, so it's been around six months now. Lately, for the past month or so, I've been starting to experience some slowdowns, and it's starting to be hurting my experience a lot. My Chrome app, for instance, takes a long time to register, and if I press on the "Home" button to go back to my launcher, the button is highlighted in white for 5 seconds before effectively going back on the home menu. Does anyone know what can be done about that? I'm considering a factory reset, but I'd rather keep my saved data and files for my apps and not go through backing up my dozens of apps. Thanks
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I assume you have done a shutdown and restart? I was getting slow responses and that cured it for me.
Alan

Even chrome beta is a large improvement over chrome. Most of the ROMs have large speed ups over stock so I would suggest that or at least a new kernel if you don't want to back everything up.
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Fidelator said:
First, don't use Chrome, it still sucks when compared to the AOSP browser, download the app Greenify from the store and use SD maid to delete all the unneeded stuff you have on your Nexus.:good:
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I'm going to do that, thanks a lot! I used Dolphin for a little while but never really liked it, so I came back to Chrome, I'll look at some other browsers though. I'll look at new ROMs and Kernels as well, I've been wanting to try paranoid android for a while.
Thanks people!

Sv: Slowdown
When I only have about 2gb or even 3 I think the sdcard gets awfully slow for me. I have 32gb version. Drop from 20mb write speed to below 5. And a lot of things are really slow. Cleaning up to get some more space solves it for me. Has happened twice so far. Not sure I my nexus is bad or if this is normal but a hint is to check your sdcard speed.
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similar issues
I've experienced similar issues but i can say much of my slowness started immediately after the 4.2.2 update. Prior to the update, my N10 was performed flawlessly. I don't use chrome and will try out Greenify and SD Maid and see if that helps.

Quick update: I realized today that I thought my N10 was rooted, while it actually wasn't. I used the N10 rooting toolkit a month or so ago, and I thought it worked, but didn't actually try it. However, Greenify kept telling me to grant it SU and I ended up noticing I couldn't actually explore the root in ES File Manager, so I did a root and flashed the KManta kernel.
So far, it's EXTREMELY smooth, just like when I got it. However, having only 500mb of apps on it helps, hehehe.
I also received my Patriot Node, on which I'll put all my media files from now on. I am going to experiment to see which ones work and which ones don't.
I also deleted all the useless apps I had (which can be many). I am not sure of what I lost exactly, but I'm sure I didn't lose anythinig important, except for my Mass Effect Infiltrator save. Whatever
I almost flashed Paranoid Android, but then I figured I like the stock rom and didn't need a different one.
As for KManta, does the fast charger actually work? What does it do? The thread here on XDA doesn't say much, is there any way to have more info on its features?

ttige said:
As for KManta, does the fast charger actually work? What does it do? The thread here on XDA doesn't say much, is there any way to have more info on its features?
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It supposedly makes charging faster when connected to a computer usb port... I've never tried as I don't have a PC
I can tell you it does nothing when charging from the power adapter

Fast charge AFAIK is not implemented for our kernel yet
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oh ok, great, good to know, thanks guys!
Just a noob question.. Assuming I don't change any value, is this kernel still supposed to be faster than the stock one?
Also, I'm guessing undervolting will make it slightly less powerful but eat less battery whereas survolting it will add to performance and kill the battery (and the hardware)?

Battery Life Tips and Tricks Thread

I've noticed this phone has hit or miss battery life depending on what you have installed, greenified and frozen. I thought it would be a good idea to create a thread where everyone could share their battery life tips and tricks on this phone.
Below I posted what I have done to maximize battery life. I have not rooted my phone yet, so none of the below tips require root.
I disabled all bloatware apps that came with the phone. I did not disable any of the Asus applications.
I utilize the Asus autostart manger and denied auto start to all my applications except music applications, messenger applications, and google photo sync.

battery sucks. drain to much.

Just use until you have 5% free battery, this should make at least your day
With Android OS taking so much thanks to lollipop, there is not a lot to hope.

We wont see a good battery improvement until we get 5.1
Luckily, that is in the future for this device acc. to Asus.

Since the issue seems to primarily be Android os draining the battery I don't think most battery saving measures will make a difference. We will just have to wait for an update

When I was looking at the phone reviews people were claiming 8 hours screen on time, I can barely get 2 hours screen on time.
The problem I'm having is that the phone never goes to sleep and is constantly awake. Has anyone else seen this issue?

facelessloser said:
When I was looking at the phone reviews people were claiming 8 hours screen on time, I can barely get 2 hours screen on time.
The problem I'm having is that the phone never goes to sleep and is constantly awake. Has anyone else seen this issue?
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I had the same problem after the latest update, no deepsleep in BetterBatteryStats (I'm rooted), I wiped everything and now it goes to deepsleep.

marcof93 said:
I had the same problem after the latest update, no deepsleep in BetterBatteryStats (I'm rooted), I wiped everything and now it goes to deepsleep.
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Which firmware version are you on. I've wiped the phone once already, did you clear any caches? It's driving me mad

facelessloser said:
Which firmware version are you on. I've wiped the phone once already, did you clear any caches? It's driving me mad
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I'm on 2.18.40.12 (ZE551ML of course), I restored the phone from backup & restore in settings (It may take 30 minutes or more). Before restoring I had 45+% of Android OS during the night, now 20% more or less, but, as said, also in BBS I can see deepsleep in frequencies.

Someone posted on Zentalk to turn off remote lock and scan for security threats in google settings. Not sure if it helps or not.

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I'm on 2.18.40.12 (ZE551ML of course), I restored the phone from backup & restore in settings (It may take 30 minutes or more). Before restoring I had 45+% of Android OS during the night, now 20% more or less, but, as said, also in BBS I can see deepsleep in frequencies.
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I wiped my phone yesterday and restored back up like you suggested and it seams to have sorted out my wake lock issue. I wonder why that is?

facelessloser said:
I wiped my phone yesterday and restored back up like you suggested and it seams to have sorted out my wake lock issue. I wonder why that is?
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Glad you solved, but don't know why, maybe they are working hard on the firmware and there are lot of changes that can cause problem, maybe we have to wipe after every update, Intel processor and Lollipop are so unstable right now!

toebus said:
Someone posted on Zentalk to turn off remote lock and scan for security threats in google settings. Not sure if it helps or not.
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It helps..i turned andriod device manager too

Ok so this is my battery with a normal day of use... Tomorrow ill show the results with your sugestions. My normal days have gsm calls(normal phone calls) whasapp (chat) youtube, twich, game like plant vs zombies 2, look at gmail, surfing internet, taking pics like 25 today.
I notice that battery drains a lot more while photo app open.
I use doble sim as you can see

If you want to test app battery drain, try GSAM Battery Monitor, or for some extra functionality the Pro version. Also very useful to determine what is causing wakelocks when you run into them.

Sammaul said:
If you want to test app battery drain, try GSAM Battery Monitor, or for some extra functionality the Pro version. Also very useful to determine what is causing wakelocks when you run into them.
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Really interesting app ill download tomorrow im tring to lock some functionalities from google like sending data for app security and after that will download this and tell you what i got
Thank u sir thats a good one

Everyone is always wondering about Android using the most battery. Without doing some in depth debugging and tracing I would guess Houdini falls under Android. Because the ZenFone 2 uses the Intel processor a binary conversion for ARM instructions takes place with Houdini. More than likely you have a lot of apps native for ARM.

Force closing asus support app and zenui services app from apps setting gives me good amount of battery boost. Apart I have also disabled google books, movies, plus etc. I don't know if its placebo effect but someone can try and confirm. These app tend to restart at times so if you feel the battery decreasing at high rates again, make sure you force close them again.
Roughly speaking, I tend to get 3-5 min per percentage of screen on time with this which totals to 5 to 6 hrs on SOT on continous usage. Without the apps being force closed, I barely get 2min/%. The usage scenarios are normal web browsing, chats etc. This is using mobile data. It gets even better with wifi.
Try and let me know if this helps.

Maybe I don't use my phone as much as other people. I posted this last night on another forum. My phone was unplugged at 07:00, It's now 21:00. I have 80% battery left and the battery monitor shows 3 days left
I have received email, 3 phone calls and text messages. I checked Twitter a couple of times with the browser. I have read Google News a couple of times and played GSN Casino for about 20 minutes.
In Auto Start Manager I turned off Docs, Sheets, Skype, Slides, Translate, Amazon Kindle, Data Transfer and Web Storage. Everything else is Allow, but I have no social networking applications installed.

Its looks like battery life is a right mixed bag. At the start of the week I was suffering wake lock issue, my phone wouldn't go into deep sleep and was constantly awake. I wiped and restored from backup which seams to fix the issue.
Got up this morning and it looks like the wake lock issue is back. I don't know what to do to fix it.
Feel like giving up on the phone and sending it back if I can

Huawei P8 wont deep sleep?:?

i was getting terrible battery life on the new rom so reverted back to the old B200 and now ive discovered that by running cpy spy the phone is not going into deep sleep mode??
ive reset to factory settings and tried it with no apps installed and still the same.
ive tried installing some battery saver apps as well but cant get it to sleep even with those.
does anyone have any ideass?

Gavin01 said:
i was getting terrible battery life on the new rom so reverted back to the old B200 and now ive discovered that by running cpy spy the phone is not going into deep sleep mode??
ive reset to factory settings and tried it with no apps installed and still the same.
ive tried installing some battery saver apps as well but cant get it to sleep even with those.
does anyone have any ideass?
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B321a is the firmware that you had problem with? There are many people that have same problem, but most of people experienced better battery life (like me). Hard to say what is going on, the only thing i can say is that my upgrade proces was B200 > B317 > B321 > B321a. I dont know if it does make any difference, but if you have time you can try the same process. No one can help you with this.

Im now on b321a and see how.it goes

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Im now on b321a and see how.it goes
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From the battery drain perspective I don't see any difference on the 321a. Still getting drained as f.ck to be honest.

enzo_cz said:
From the battery drain perspective I don't see any difference on the 321a. Still getting drained as f.ck to be honest.
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so your getting the drain as well?

Gavin01 said:
so your getting the drain as well?
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Yup, but greenify fixed it.

enzo_cz said:
Yup, but greenify fixed it.
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its weird, i dont need greenify to get 2 day of normal use, and i have a lot of apps, have you allowed apps in power manager? i got few i need notifications from, like skype, gmail etc, without single problem

00471 said:
its weird, i dont need greenify to get 2 day of normal use, and i have a lot of apps, have you allowed apps in power manager? i got few i need notifications from, like skype, gmail etc, without single problem
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On the B321a firmware? How did you make it? I turned them all to prevent from havin' those working when display's off.

enzo_cz said:
On the B321a firmware? How did you make it? I turned them all to prevent from havin' those working when display's off.
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I dont knowm but i can tell you, i had the same problem with B200 when i got the phone, it was very frustrating, not even one day the batery could stand, but then i tried first beta of mashmallow and it got like twice of the battery life. Yesterday i was almost all day flashing some stuff (that didnt work) so i restarted the phone into recovery like 10 times, almost every time i had to restore backup and was trying something else, and at the evening i still had about 30-40 percent.

00471 said:
I dont knowm but i can tell you, i had the same problem with B200 when i got the phone, it was very frustrating, not even one day the batery could stand, but then i tried first beta of mashmallow and it got like twice of the battery life. Yesterday i was almost all day flashing some stuff (that didnt work) so i restarted the phone into recovery like 10 times, almost every time i had to restore backup and was trying something else, and at the evening i still had about 30-40 percent.
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So u being still on the beta? Should be B317 or something. The B321 is the final one. Listen I am a bit desperate as having this phone charged to make 24hrs of medium use is frustrating

enzo_cz said:
So u being still on the beta? Should be B317 or something. The B321 is the final one. Listen I am a bit desperate as having this phone charged to make 24hrs of medium use is frustrating
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nope, i upgraded to B321a as soon as it was released, battery is the same as in beta, it can not be problem with that firmware

00471 said:
nope, i upgraded to B321a as soon as it was released, battery is the same as in beta, it can not be problem with that firmware
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Well, I will be two days when will have the latest installed. I will see whether it doesn't settle down a bit.

enzo_cz said:
Well, I will be two days when will have the latest installed. I will see whether it doesn't settle down a bit.
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hm, i really dubt about it, the battery drain should be beter imediately, what ROM you upgraded from?

00471 said:
hm, i really dubt about it, the battery drain should be beter imediately, what ROM you upgraded from?
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B200 man. Listen up just checked the actual SOT and it makes 4:23 hrs and 19% left still. Typically I dont play games but except that I squeeze my phone hard-music, web, youtube,gps etc etc

enzo_cz said:
B200 man. Listen up just checked the actual SOT and it makes 4:23 hrs and 19% left still. Typically I dont play games but except that I squeeze my phone hard-music, web, youtube,gps etc etc
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huawei´s smartphones are pretty weird, many people have various problems, some have problems that others dont etc, for example, many ppl says that B200 had better battery life than Marshmallow, for me, its twice as that, so its pretty individual, i was frustrated about this phone when i got it, at first i was happy for new phone, but the smile dissapeared very fast. Now, with MM im pretty happy, just pitty that we dont have CM or some mods (yet). Last thing i can suggest you ist, try to install xposed, then install Amplifiy app, i could help

im also desperate to the point the phones going!
ive had wifi off mobile data off gps off
Phones been on since 7am so basically 12 hours and im at 30% battery with 1h 30 min screen on time and 1h20m talk time!
its so god damn bad ............oh and greenify just says no apps need to hibernate.
ive got a couple of screen blemishes anyway so i might try a rma as its well with in warranty any how.

It seems that major prob for me have been google maps. Sounds like our device doesn't cope well with this app. Removing those off gave me normal SOT and phone can make 1.5 day easily

I'll try that howndoes one go about it ? I'm not rooted

Gavin01 said:
I'll try that howndoes one go about it ? I'm not rooted
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In Settings > advanced > battery > consumption
What are the top things that are using your battery?

check energy plan
Did you check your energy plan settings? After I first upgraded to 321 I observed battery drain as well. I managed to solve the issue by changing the energy plan in the battery manager. After upgrade it was set to performance. Once I set it to intelligent battery drain was ok. Seems like after upgrading performance is the default setting.
PS: The names might be slightly different, because the langugae on my P8 is not english.

GApps on Rooted LG V20

Does anybody know if we are able to flash any other versions of GApps on the rooted LG V20?
My V20 is from AT&T and since day one it has had terrible battery life. Where I was able to use my Note7 or Droid Turbo all day and still have battery left, the V20 eats the battery charge like Sally Struthers in a See's Candy warehouse. I mean, I have to charge this thing at least 2 times a day when I use it to search the web or any battery intensive purposes. I never had this problem on any other phone. I have been trying to find ways to improve my battery. I used Rom Toolbox Pro to disable all kinds of stuff, and it worked great, until my phone started Grand Mal seizing giving me the Google Play Services has to close notifications, which I then had to factory reset just to get my phone working properly again.
I would like to try flashing a minimal version of GApps that pretty much just has the play store and play store services. Are we able to do this on our V20's without having any issues? If you have any input at all I would really appreciate it.

IMHO it must be an app or two you have installed draining your battery like that. On a full charge I can a whole day and a little in to the next. I am a heavy user too. Are you blasting the brightness at 100% all the time? If so auto brightness will help a little. Go in to setting and see what is using that much drain

tnick84 said:
IMHO it must be an app or two you have installed draining your battery like that. On a full charge I can a whole day and a little in to the next. I am a heavy user too. Are you blasting the brightness at 100% all the time? If so auto brightness will help a little. Go in to setting and see what is using that much drain
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I was thinking it might be something I installed, as well. But I can't seem to pinpoint any apps that might be causing the battery drain. I keep the screen on auto brightness like you mentioned so it shouldn't be the screen. GSam almost always shows the Android System and Kernel (Android OS) at the top of the list of battery-draining apps. I love the phone, I just cannot figure out what is going on. I mean, I am not doing anything different than I have on my previous phones, and the V20 seems to be working fine. I thought maybe it is something with Nougat. I will gladly post some pics of app usage or data if it might help figure this problem out.

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I was thinking it might be something I installed, as well. But I can't seem to pinpoint any apps that might be causing the battery drain. I keep the screen on auto brightness like you mentioned so it shouldn't be the screen. GSam almost always shows the Android System and Kernel (Android OS) at the top of the list of battery-draining apps. I love the phone, I just cannot figure out what is going on. I mean, I am not doing anything different than I have on my previous phones, and the V20 seems to be working fine. I thought maybe it is something with Nougat. I will gladly post some pics of app usage or data if it might help figure this problem out.
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What rom are you on? Are you on stock white theme? I'm running a dark theme, which can help save a little juice. I'm also running as many team blackout apps as I can (many Google apps) to avoid all the whiteness. Just throwing out some ideas.

tnick84 said:
What rom are you on? Are you on stock white theme? I'm running a dark theme, which can help save a little juice. I'm also running as many team blackout apps as I can (many Google apps) to avoid all the whiteness. Just throwing out some ideas.
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Interesting! I have never heard of Team Blackout Apps, they look pretty nice! Yes, I am on the stock ROM just the way it comes. I haven't changed anything at all. I have barely installed any apps just to see if I can find what is causing the battery to drain. Are there any other ROMs that work with the AT&T variant of the LG V20? It seems like they haven't made any yet for the AT&T V20. I am still waiting for Xposed to be released that is compatible with nougat so I can use Amplify.

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Interesting! I have never heard of Team Blackout Apps, they look pretty nice! Yes, I am on the stock ROM just the way it comes. I haven't changed anything at all. I have barely installed any apps just to see if I can find what is causing the battery to drain. Are there any other ROMs that work with the AT&T variant of the LG V20? It seems like they haven't made any yet for the AT&T V20. I am still waiting for Xposed to be released that is compatible with nougat so I can use Amplify.
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I don't think there are any roms for AT&T variant atm. I did see an AT&T user flashed the stock deodexed rom by tilde88 in rom section. Not sure of all the details though. I'm assuming you would lose some functionality...would need to flash stock kernel as well.

What is your leading source of battery drain under system usage?

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I don't think there are any roms for AT&T variant atm. I did see an AT&T user flashed the stock deodexed rom by tilde88 in rom section. Not sure of all the details though. I'm assuming you would lose some functionality...would need to flash stock kernel as well.
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Yeah definitely, I think it is a little bit too early, for me at least, to expetiment with a deodexed ROM. But I know there will be some awesome developments coming out soon. I was so happy to see that a root was figured out for the V20 so quickly after it was released. Until then, I will keep experimenting with the stock ROM.
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What is your leading source of battery drain under system usage?
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Hi Swizzle82, thank you for the reply. It is kind of difficult for me to pinpoint what the leading source of battery drain is because the apps seem to bunch all detected processes and wakelocks together. I know that Call Services & Android System show up on top a lot of the time, but since I factory reset the phone today, the stats are minimal compared to what I previously had. WeChat also uses resources, but I used that app all the time on my Note7 and previous phones, even more than I do now, and it never caused a problem. I attached some screenshots from GSam, BetterBatteryStats, Wakelock Detector, and CPU Spy Reloaded., I don't know if they will help, but just switching between those few apps and taking some screenshots over the span of 6 minutes, my battery percentage dropped from 79% to 76%.

nikktrikk said:
Yeah definitely, I think it is a little bit too early, for me at least, to expetiment with a deodexed ROM. But I know there will be some awesome developments coming out soon. I was so happy to see that a root was figured out for the V20 so quickly after it was released. Until then, I will keep experimenting with the stock ROM.
Hi Swizzle82, thank you for the reply. It is kind of difficult for me to pinpoint what the leading source of battery drain is because the apps seem to bunch all detected processes and wakelocks together. I know that Call Services & Android System show up on top a lot of the time, but since I factory reset the phone today, the stats are minimal compared to what I previously had. WeChat also uses resources, but I used that app all the time on my Note7 and previous phones, even more than I do now, and it never caused a problem. I attached some screenshots from GSam, BetterBatteryStats, Wakelock Detector, and CPU Spy Reloaded., I don't know if they will help, but just switching between those few apps and taking some screenshots over the span of 6 minutes, my battery percentage dropped from 79% to 76%.
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I had android system for a while killing me.. I factory reset and setup every app one by one with no data transfer or anything. Installed every app like it's first install. I charged it til it reached 100 percent, with the phone plugged in, I went to data/system/batterystars.bin and deleted that file and rebooted. It was a long process but it hasn't been an issue since. This was when the phone first came out last month. Never knew which apps data it was but it is gone now.

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I had android system for a while killing me.. I factory reset and setup every app one by one with no data transfer or anything. Installed every app like it's first install. I charged it til it reached 100 percent, with the phone plugged in, I went to data/system/batterystars.bin and deleted that file and rebooted. It was a long process but it hasn't been an issue since. This was when the phone first came out last month. Never knew which apps data it was but it is gone now.
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That sounds like a good idea to try. I will do this today since I already factory reset it yesterday. I would rather do it now before I get further into using it again. I have not heard about this until you mentioned it so maybe there is an issue with app transfers with the V20 causing it. The battery does seem to drain less than before, but it seems like there are still some issues. Thank you for the suggestion!

nikktrikk said:
That sounds like a good idea to try. I will do this today since I already factory reset it yesterday. I would rather do it now before I get further into using it again. I have not heard about this until you mentioned it so maybe there is an issue with app transfers with the V20 causing it. The battery does seem to drain less than before, but it seems like there are still some issues. Thank you for the suggestion!
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If you followed did the dirtysanta method, make sure you flash the Konverged kernel for the H918. Or Tilde88's 5.1 kernel for the H918. It worked wonders on improving battery life. Also make sure you disable Lookout - that drains a lot of battery it seemed to me at least. I usually get about a day and a half of battery life when I use my normal amount (which is honestly quite a bit).
Twisted

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If you followed did the dirtysanta method, make sure you flash the Konverged kernel for the H918. Or Tilde88's 5.1 kernel for the H918. It worked wonders on improving battery life. Also make sure you disable Lookout - that drains a lot of battery it seemed to me at least. I usually get about a day and a half of battery life when I use my normal amount (which is honestly quite a bit).
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Okay, thanks for letting me know! I have not even looked at those kernels thinking they weren't cross compatible with H910. I am going to try it right now with the dirtysanta method. I will disable Lookout, as well. There are a ton of apps that I never use that drain the battery. I will let you know how it goes :good:

Did you own a V10 or other Lg phone prior?

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Did you own a V10 or other Lg phone prior?
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No, I had the Note7 before getting the LG V20. Before that I had a Note 4 and a Droid Turbo. This is my first LG phone and I really do love it. I actually like it more than the Note7, the only problem I have is the battery. I do think that factory resetting and manually installing the apps instead of restoring them will help, and using the Konverged kernel seems promising, from what I am reading.

nikktrikk said:
No, I had the Note7 before getting the LG V20. Before that I had a Note 4 and a Droid Turbo. This is my first LG phone and I really do love it. I actually like it more than the Note7, the only problem I have is the battery. I do think that factory resetting and manually installing the apps instead of restoring them will help, and using the Konverged kernel seems promising, from what I am reading.
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Yup I always start fresh and install apps manually anytime I reset my phone. I think it's always nice to start fresh - even if it is sometimes a bit inconvenient to go through all the apps you've installed and choosing which ones to install. Hopefully you get it all sorted out!

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I had android system for a while killing me.. I factory reset and setup every app one by one with no data transfer or anything. Installed every app like it's first install. I charged it til it reached 100 percent, with the phone plugged in, I went to data/system/batterystars.bin and deleted that file and rebooted. It was a long process but it hasn't been an issue since. This was when the phone first came out last month. Never knew which apps data it was but it is gone now.
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Yup I always start fresh and install apps manually anytime I reset my phone. I think it's always nice to start fresh - even if it is sometimes a bit inconvenient to go through all the apps you've installed and choosing which ones to install. Hopefully you get it all sorted out!
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Okay, I just factory reset the phone, rooted it with DirtySanta, and flashed the Konverged kernel and the phone is NOTICEABLY faster and smoother! This is great! Each time I reset the phone, it had noticeable lag. I just figured it would go away over time, which it did, and that it was because it had to load and download everything since it was fresh. But with the Konverged kernel, it has none of the lag and is silky smooth! Time to manually install the apps I want and disable some stuff I don't need. I will update you guys after I see how the battery is with the new setup Thanks a lot for your help, I really appreciate all the input!:good:

I need your help! I changed the screen cover sensor to off not realizing that I would not be able to turn off the static after rebooting my phone since the sensor is off. Would somebody please post a few screenshots showing how to navigate to the screen sensor settings so I can tap my way there and turn it back on? I am trying but there is no way to tell where to tap with all the static. Thank you!
Nevermind, I fixed it! I finally navigated to the second screen settings and turned it off when the screen is off and that got rid of the static after I turned the screen off then on again. Note to self, never do that again LOL.

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I need your help! I changed the screen cover sensor to off not realizing that I would not be able to turn off the static after rebooting my phone since the sensor is off. Would somebody please post a few screenshots showing how to navigate to the screen sensor settings so I can tap my way there and turn it back on? I am trying but there is no way to tell where to tap with all the static. Thank you!
Nevermind, I fixed it! I finally navigated to the second screen settings and turned it off when the screen is off and that got rid of the static after I turned the screen off then on again. Note to self, never do that again LOL.
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Wow I'm fairly impressed you managed to do all that with the static screen haha - glad to hear it worked out for you in the end.

Get me your stock system.img and boot.img, and I'll make you a modded ROM with a custom kernel!

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Wow I'm fairly impressed you managed to do all that with the static screen haha - glad to hear it worked out for you in the end.
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Haha yeah, I never knew something like that could cause such a huge problem. Now I can't seem to find what I did to cause that in the first place. I have been looking through all of the settings and can't seem to find anything that affects the proximity sensor. On top of that, the screen rotation stopped working, it will not rotate when I turn the phone to the side to type. I have toggled all of the motion and second screen settings, calibrated the motion sensor, and nothing is affecting it. When I turn the main screen off, the sensor does not shut off the second screen when I cover it with my finger, and the phone does not recognize when I rotate the screen. I am kind of at a loss on how to fix it.

Hight CPU and battery usage on idle system; restarts don't help

I've got a problem with my S8 which is running latest, official, non-rooted XEO firmware. Specifically, it uses battery like crazy and heats up whilst doing nothing. This smells like a virus / malware infection or just... well, the last update was in December 2021 so it's also possible some system component is wonky OR... <shivers> some rootkit? I'm generally rather careful when installing apps, most of which will be coming in from official sources (Google Store) or at least fairly trusted sources.
Every so often I'll get a warning that a system component is using too much CPU and I should restart the phone - which obviously doesn't help at all. Also the battery drain is reported primarily by Android System and System Core (29 and 15% respectively). Battery usage stats generally don't add up because the listings don't add up to 100%. :/
I know the S8 is an old phone... and I know there are probably steps I should take prior to asking here - like a factory reset. But I'm really sceptical of doing a factory reset simply because I've got so much stuff on the phone that, while not impossible to backup, is certainly annoying (authenticator or banking apps for example - and I don't think the standard backup tools like those available from Google or Samsung backup such apps).
So I'd rather try some solutions or methods of dealing with the damned thing without resetting the phone first. Is there anything I can do?

You need to find the root cause. It may be a 3rd party using one or more of the Samsung system apps running under Android services, lol Legend for there are many... all lumped together.
A firewall with logging can help. Karma Firewall is what I use, uses almost no battery. Being rooted you have more options... use them.
Malware is always a possibility.
3rd party apps can cause hell. I don't allow any social media apps on the phone, ever.
Try in safe mode... if things calm down it's likely a 3rd party app. If so start going through the installed apps.
Clear system cache.

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You need to find the root cause. It may be a 3rd party using one or more of the Samsung system apps running under Android services, lol Legend for there are many... all lumped together.
A firewall with logging can help. Karma Firewall is what I use, uses almost no battery.
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Will try that, thanks!
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Being rooted you have more options... use them.
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The phone is NON-rooted.
blackhawk said:
Malware is always a possibility.
3rd party apps can cause hell. I don't allow any social media apps on the phone, ever.
Try in safe mode... if things calm down it's likely a 3rd party app. If so start going through the installed apps.
Clear system cache.
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Oh, safe mode! I'll try that too! Thanks!

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Will try that, thanks!
The phone is NON-rooted.
Oh, safe mode! I'll try that too! Thanks!
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Sorry about the root thing, my bad.
If you're running on Android 9 or lower Karma Firewall's logging feature is fully active otherwise not. Samsung store>Galaxy Labs> Battery Tracker can be useful.
I use Accubattery's history page to get a quick idea of charge/discharge rates.
I use Device Care>storage>clean as well.
Make sure no cloud apps are running in the background.

Update: in safe mode the phone doesn't heat up and battery usage seems normal. So it's probably some app.
Alas, the firewall wasn't very helpful - it seemed that apps that attempted accessing the internet were your usual suspects - Play Store, One Drive or other sync apps, Vanced.
Any other suggestions on possibly nailing down the culprit?
PS. I've also decided to send Samsung an error report via the Members app - I don't know what their reply times are and I honestly don't expect much from them but who knows? Perhaps they'll come through.

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Update: in safe mode the phone doesn't heat up and battery usage seems normal. So it's probably some app.
Alas, the firewall wasn't very helpful - it seemed that apps that attempted accessing the internet were your usual suspects - Play Store, One Drive or other sync apps, Vanced.
Any other suggestions on possibly nailing down the culprit?
PS. I've also decided to send Samsung an error report via the Members app - I don't know what their reply times are and I honestly don't expect much from them but who knows? Perhaps they'll come through.
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Why other than maybe text messages is anything syncing? Take out the trash and go from there.
The ones that are connecting every minute or more when not open are prime suspects.
Some apps like Brave browser need to be closed out when not in use or they eat battery.
You can also try a hard reboot.

Update!
I left the phone in safe mode overnight. I mean, it seemed like things were better, so at least I'd have a stable phone.
Well, in the morning I was greeted with a severely depleted battery (went from 100 to 40 in the span of 6 hours) and I got the "high CPU usage" warning popup. The phone wasn't as hot to the touch tho.
So... Whatever is going on seems to happen also in safe mode, albeit less often? Or perhaps it's less "severe" where it doesn't heat up the phone but the drain is still there? But since safe mode is affected it's probably NOT an app, right?
At this point I'm completely baffled. Any other ideas?

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Update!
I left the phone in safe mode overnight. I mean, it seemed like things were better, so at least I'd have a stable phone.
Well, in the morning I was greeted with a severely depleted battery (went from 100 to 40 in the span of 6 hours) and I got the "high CPU usage" warning popup. The phone wasn't as hot to the touch tho.
So... Whatever is going on seems to happen also in safe mode, albeit less often? Or perhaps it's less "severe" where it doesn't heat up the phone but the drain is still there? But since safe mode is affected it's probably NOT an app, right?
At this point I'm completely baffled. Any other ideas?
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Hard reset... hold power button until it powers off.
Try temporarily disabling Google play Services at night, see what that does.

OK, I'm baffled. I feel like I didn't really do anything but the phone is now running fine. Battery drain now might be better than ever!
Warms up on usage, obviously, but when idle it's nice and cool and battery drain seems minimal. I'll... leave it for a few days to see how this develops. It's very difficult to tell what the heck's the case here.

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OK, I'm baffled. I feel like I didn't really do anything but the phone is now running fine. Battery drain now might be better than ever!
Warms up on usage, obviously, but when idle it's nice and cool and battery drain seems minimal. I'll... leave it for a few days to see how this develops. It's very difficult to tell what the heck's the case here.
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Retrace what you did. Reason being you may need to do it again. Really most times all you need to do is just "play" with it a bit (a lot). Almost impossible to crash a stock load, so explore and learn by playing with it. You are what you load and download; be careful with 3rd party apps they are the biggest potential hazards.
Once you have a fast, stable OS that's fulfilling its mission, let it be. Don't update or upgrade it.
Updates can and do break Sammy's. This N10+ is still running on Pie, current load is over 2yo. Rock solid stable and it runs like a bat out of hell with minimal maintenance. Security isn't an issue.

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Retrace what you did. Reason being you may need to do it again. Really most times all you need to do is just "play" with it a bit (a lot). Almost impossible to crash a stock load, so explore and learn by playing with it. You are what you load and download; be careful with 3rd party apps they are the biggest potential hazards.
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I have a suspicion this might have been some Samsung app (my bet's on Bixby) since those are likely still able to run in Safe Mode that got updated and then fixed...? Does that make sense?
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Once you have a fast, stable OS that's fulfilling its mission, let it be. Don't update or upgrade it.
Updates can and do break Sammy's. This N10+ is still running on Pie, current load is over 2yo. Rock solid stable and it runs like a bat out of hell with minimal maintenance. Security isn't an issue.
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I'm concerned about the last bit. I mean, upgrading to a new Android version is one thing but security updates are common, no?

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I have a suspicion this might have been some Samsung app (my bet's on Bixby) since those are likely still able to run in Safe Mode that got updated and then fixed...? Does that make sense?
I'm concerned about the last bit. I mean, upgrading to a new Android version is one thing but security updates are common, no?
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Kill wittle bixby... you read it EULA?☠
It's more than one apk though. Takes a while to optimize a Sammy the first time
Well... if it's set up and used right Android 9 will run securely in the real world. No saving dumb bunnies anyway; they'll still get tagged even with the latest version
The proof is in my hand. Loaded over 2+ years ago and this N10+ UI version 1.5 is running clean like a bat out of hell. If I do get malware I can't erraticate in an hour or so, factory reset and change passwords.
My data is redundantly backed* up 4+ times, plus the onboard SD card used as a data drive. I'm ready to reload right now if I have to...
A malware forced reload is still less trouble than constantly updating and having the updates screw things up. That means more troubleshooting, finding new work arounds and still maybe needing a factory reset on top of all that. No.
Not vaxed either... not buying the hype.
*critical data must be redundantly backed up or sooner or latter it will likely be lost. Never encrypt data drives as you are the most likely to be locked out!

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Kill wittle bixby... you read it EULA?☠
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Oh I'd love that - but it's a system app and removing those without root is kind of... impossible? I can look into disabling it completely however - I never use it anyway. Since it's not a single app - any chance you got a link to the list of apps that need manual disabling?
Anyway, I'm still getting those damned warnings. The phone isn't constantly hot however, which is some improvement.

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Oh I'd love that - but it's a system app and removing those without root is kind of... impossible? I can look into disabling it completely however - I never use it anyway. Since it's not a single app - any chance you got a link to the list of apps that need manual disabling?
Anyway, I'm still getting those damned warnings. The phone isn't constantly hot however, which is some improvement.
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Package Disabler kills bixby proper.
You can also disable it with an adb edit. That's one of the first things I do.
Bixby is a hot mess best dump along the interstate... like Google Assistant it needs external servers for many of its functions. I may change my mind but it's eula is like eating dry hardtack for breakfast.