I have a PX5 head unit running Android 8.0 Oreo. I’ve already connected a rear view camera that works great, but I’d also like to connect a front view camera. I’ll be connecting the camera to the composite/CVBS AV IN video input.
I don’t expect any problem using it simply as a front view camera by launching the AV IN app to view the video signal, but I was wondering if it is possible to use the same video signal for the DVR dash cam app (I know the quality won’t be all that great, but still)?
Also, the AV cable harness of my head unit includes a red ‘CAM POW’ wire. I haven’t measured yet, but perhaps somebody knows if it gets 12V when the radio is on? Otherwise I’ll have to look for a different 12V source. I’ve already enabled the ‘Front cam’ option in the Factory settings and I’ve set the ‘DVR’ option to ‘USB+CVBS’.
Nobody? :crying:
The cam pow wire will output 12v when the F-cam app is open (or when reverse gear is triggered via the reverse wire).
I don’t know of a way to use that video for the DVR app, and moreover the front/rear cameras typically have a voltage converter from 12v to whatever lower voltage the camera itself uses. This is integrated either into the camera or on the wire somewhere and it warms up very quickly. The camera isn’t meant to be on all the time as a result because it overheats and can stop working.
The DVR app is made to receive a signal from a certain type of USB camera only afaik. You can find them on AliExpress too.. then again I gotta check my settings, because I’ve never messed around with it.
vassandrei said:
The cam pow wire will output 12v when the F-cam app is open (or when reverse gear is triggered via the reverse wire).
I don’t know of a way to use that video for the DVR app, and moreover the front/rear cameras typically have a voltage converter from 12v to whatever lower voltage the camera itself uses. This is integrated either into the camera or on the wire somewhere and it warms up very quickly. The camera isn’t meant to be on all the time as a result because it overheats and can stop working.
The DVR app is made to receive a signal from a certain type of USB camera only afaik. You can find them on AliExpress too.. then again I gotta check my settings, because I’ve never messed around with it.
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I see, thanks for the detailed reply!
I’ll forget about using this camera as a dash cam.
Do you know if the CAM POW wire also outputs 12V when the AV IN app is open? Or is it just when the F-Cam app is open (and set to the front cam)?
jorisvervuurt said:
I see, thanks for the detailed reply!
I’ll forget about using this camera as a dash cam.
Do you know if the CAM POW wire also outputs 12V when the AV IN app is open? Or is it just when the F-Cam app is open (and set to the front cam)?
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That's a good question.. I haven't tested. I'll try tomorrow and tell you the result. I'm going to lean towards no though, because otherwise anytime that AV-in would be open my rear/front camera and parking system would turn on, which would be inconvenient if watching some AUX video in source (like a console).
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That's a good question.. I haven't tested. I'll try tomorrow and tell you the result. I'm going to lean towards no though, because otherwise anytime that AV-in would be open my rear/front camera and parking system would turn on, which would be inconvenient if watching some AUX video in source (like a console).
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Awesome, thanks!
Another question...
My head unit only has two (yellow) RCA video inputs.
One is labeled 'CAM VIN', to which my reverse camera is connected.
The other input is labeled 'AUX VIN' (also a yellow RCA).
Is my assumption that F-Cam uses the 'AUX VIN' signal correct (so, the same signal that is shown in the AV IN app)?
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Awesome, thanks!
Another question...
My head unit only has two (yellow) RCA video inputs.
One is labeled 'CAM VIN', to which my reverse camera is connected.
The other input is labeled 'AUX VIN' (also a yellow RCA).
Is my assumption that F-Cam uses the 'AUX VIN' signal correct (so, the same signal that is shown in the AV IN app)?
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Alright so I tested and the AVIN app has no effect on the CAM-POW pin, because my parking sensors and rear/front cameras definitely don’t turn on when I open the avin app.
Cam-VIN is your reverse camera in most likely. It will show when you give the reverse pin 12v and thereby activate the reverse camera app (or open the f-cam app and switch to rear view mode via the button on the screen).
Aux vin is what the AVIN app shows, and is not tied to any power pin as far as I know.
F-cam in is separate from those two and the connector isn’t always present on all units. You might have the f-cam in pin on a second AV connector that doesn’t have any plugs included for it (for instance on my unit f-cam in is on a small 8 pin connector next to my main av connector which I had to make my own cables for)
Check the front parking camera mod thread on here, I posted pictures of what my Witson unit looks like.
vassandrei said:
Alright so I tested and the AVIN app has no effect on the CAM-POW pin, because my parking sensors and rear/front cameras definitely don’t turn on when I open the avin app.
Cam-VIN is your reverse camera in most likely. It will show when you give the reverse pin 12v and thereby activate the reverse camera app (or open the f-cam app and switch to rear view mode via the button on the screen).
Aux vin is what the AVIN app shows, and is not tied to any power pin as far as I know.
F-cam in is separate from those two and the connector isn’t always present on all units. You might have the f-cam in pin on a second AV connector that doesn’t have any plugs included for it (for instance on my unit f-cam in is on a small 8 pin connector next to my main av connector which I had to make my own cables for)
Check the front parking camera mod thread on here, I posted pictures of what my Witson unit looks like.
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Thank you so much!
I've checked the other thread and I may be in luck with the 8 pin connector.
Mine's also a Witson unit: http://www.witson.com/en/displayproduct.html?proID=102131570
I don't have a photo of the actual unit in my car, but according to Witson's product photo it does have the 8-pin connector:
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I currently have my reverse camera connected to CAM VIN (video signal, yellow RCA) and the +12V to the brown REVERSE wire on the main ISO harness.
That brown REVERSE wire gets +12V when I manually change gear to the reverse gear (otherwise it's at 0V, I've measured it), but clicking the reverse camera button in F-Cam doesn't get me +12V on that wire.
If I understand correctly, you have both your front view camera and your reverse camera connected to the red CAM POW wire on the AV-harness?
Does the radio output +12V on the red CAM POW wire when you manually change gear to the reverse gear AND when clicking the reverse camera button in F-Cam?
If so, I'll have to change the wiring.
As for the 8-pin connector: what is it called and where can I order the correct harness?
Thanks again for all the useful info!!!
jorisvervuurt said:
Thank you so much!
I've checked the other thread and I may be in luck with the 8 pin connector.
Mine's also a Witson unit: http://www.witson.com/en/displayproduct.html?proID=102131570
I don't have a photo of the actual unit in my car, but according to Witson's product photo it does have the 8-pin connector:
I currently have my reverse camera connected to CAM VIN (video signal, yellow RCA) and the +12V to the brown REVERSE wire on the main ISO harness.
That brown REVERSE wire gets +12V when I manually change gear to the reverse gear (otherwise it's at 0V, I've measured it), but clicking the reverse camera button in F-Cam doesn't get me +12V on that wire.
If I understand correctly, you have both your front view camera and your reverse camera connected to the red CAM POW wire on the AV-harness?
Does the radio output +12V on the red CAM POW wire when you manually change gear to the reverse gear AND when clicking the reverse camera button in F-Cam?
If so, I'll have to change the wiring.
As for the 8-pin connector: what is it called and where can I order the correct harness?
Thanks again for all the useful info!!!
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The reverse wire is meant to receive 12v+ into the head unit as a signal of you having changed gears. It's typically hooked up to your reverse light (as it turns on when you switch into reverse).
and YES! The CAM POW wire outputs 12v BOTH when in reverse gear (triggered by the reverse signal wire receiving 12v) AND when opening the f-CAM app!! It's actually super cool because not only is it an automatic parking assistance system (for both front and rear) but you can totally check either camera at ANY time, even during driving, or being stuck in traffic. It's quite fun
Yes, I currently have both my front and rear camera powered by the CAM POW wire. I did use a relay though, so as not to overload the one pin (because I have a video-based parking sensor system installed on both the front and rear as well).
The 8 pin connector -- I have no idea what it's called. I just dug around through my old head unit connectors from my other car and found one that was the same size but wider. I cut it so that it was 4 pins (instead of something like 16). So, if someone else knows what those types of connectors are called, that would be helpful.
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The reverse wire is meant to receive 12v+ into the head unit as a signal of you having changed gears. It's typically hooked up to your reverse light (as it turns on when you switch into reverse).
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My head unit has two brown REVERSE wires; one on the main ISO harness and one on the AV harness. The one on the AV harness never outputs +12V, as it is the trigger wire. The REVERSE wire on the main ISO harness however, does output +12V when I manually select reverse gear. This is done through the CANbus system. My reverse camera is not connected to the reverse light wiring.
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and YES! The CAM POW wire outputs 12v BOTH when in reverse gear (triggered by the reverse signal wire receiving 12v) AND when opening the f-CAM app!! It's actually super cool because not only is it an automatic parking assistance system (for both front and rear) but you can totally check either camera at ANY time, even during driving, or being stuck in traffic. It's quite fun
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That sounds great! I’ll be measuring some of these wires soon, as I’m probably going to change the wiring. It’ll be particulary useful to read license plates of cars that are ‘bumperklevers’ as we call them in Dutch.
vassandrei said:
Yes, I currently have both my front and rear camera powered by the CAM POW wire. I did use a relay though, so as not to overload the one pin (because I have a video-based parking sensor system installed on both the front and rear as well).
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Hmm, okay. Will that also be necessary when connecting two simple cameras, of which one has four white LEDs? I guess they won’t use that much power.
vassandrei said:
The 8 pin connector -- I have no idea what it's called. I just dug around through my old head unit connectors from my other car and found one that was the same size but wider. I cut it so that it was 4 pins (instead of something like 16). So, if someone else knows what those types of connectors are called, that would be helpful.
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Aha, okay. I’ll ask the seller of my radio.
@vassandrei I have just (without taking the radio out of the dashboard) measured the red CAM POW wire on the AV-harness.
Good news! Normally, the wire reads 0V. When I open the F-Cam app - no matter if the front or back camera is selected - it reads +12V. This is also the case when the reverse gear is selected, even when the F-Cam app is not opened.
Note that all of the above is working without having the reverse trigger wire connected to the reverse light positive; all through the CANbus system.:laugh:
I’m going to change how my reverse camera is connected, as it right now only gets power when I select the reverse gear.
Bad news! :crying:
I just took my radio out to see if it has the 8-pin connector.
Unfortunately, it doesn’t actually have the connector installed, though it does look like everything on the PCB in place; it’s just the connector that wasn’t soldered on during production (probably to save cost).
I could open the unit and manually solder a connector on, but I assume that will void my warranty...
jorisvervuurt said:
Bad news! :crying:
I just took my radio out to see if it has the 8-pin connector.
Unfortunately, it doesn’t actually have the connector installed, though it does look like everything on the PCB in place; it’s just the connector that wasn’t soldered on during production (probably to save cost).
I could open the unit and manually solder a connector on, but I assume that will void my warranty...
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Awww man that sucks! I would still consider soldering.. the warranty isn’t worth much (huge pain in the butt to send for repairs anyway ). The convenience and novelty are worth it for me
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Awww man that sucks! I would still consider soldering.. the warranty isn’t worth much (huge pain in the butt to send for repairs anyway ). The convenience and novelty are worth it for me
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Yeah, I’m definitely considering soldering directly to the board (I’m quite experienced in soldering so that is no problem at all). Instead of ordering through e.g. AliExpress, I ordered the radio through Icebox Auto in the UK, so should I need the warranty, it shouldn’t be a very big problem as I also live in the EU (The Netherlands).
I’ve emailed them to ask about soldering to the board. Preferably, I’d solder the correct female connector to the PCB, but I haven’t found the name of the 8 pin connector so far. :crying:
Here’s a photo of how my radio looks from the back:
jorisvervuurt said:
Yeah, I’m definitely considering soldering directly to the board (I’m quite experienced in soldering so that is no problem at all). Instead of ordering through e.g. AliExpress, I ordered the radio through Icebox Auto in the UK, so should I need the warranty, it shouldn’t be a very big problem as I also live in the EU (The Netherlands).
I’ve emailed them to ask about soldering to the board. Preferably, I’d solder the correct female connector to the PCB, but I haven’t found the name of the 8 pin connector so far. :crying:
Here’s a photo of how my radio looks from the back:
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Yeah the one to the left of the circle hole is it. I can even see the bits of solder on the pads! I would solder a wire directly to the board, not bothering with connectors
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Yeah the one to the left of the circle hole is it. I can even see the bits of solder on the pads! I would solder a wire directly to the board, not bothering with connectors
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Yep, it really looks like they just saved on production costs and figured we wouldn’t need the connector. Soldering wires would work too, though I prefer the connectors to be as they would be from the factory. I’ve been looking around the internet and it looks like it’s a 2x4p PHB wire-to-board connector with 2.0mm spacing. Not entirely sure though, but they look identical...
Will keep this thread updated once I hear from Rob at Icebox Auto. :good:
By the way, which pins are needed for the F-CAM RCA-in? I assume ground and signal, but which ones are they on the 8-pin connector?
jorisvervuurt said:
Yep, it really looks like they just saved on production costs and figured we wouldn’t need the connector. Soldering wires would work too, though I prefer the connectors to be as they would be from the factory. I’ve been looking around the internet and it looks like it’s a 2x4p PHB wire-to-board connector with 2.0mm spacing. Not entirely sure though, but they look identical...
Will keep this thread updated once I hear from Rob at Icebox Auto. :good:
By the way, which pins are needed for the F-CAM RCA-in? I assume ground and signal, but which ones are they on the 8-pin connector?
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This is the way I have it on mine:
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This is the way I have it on mine:
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Awesome, thanks for the clear picture!
Today I went ahead and took out the radio (again); this time including the wiring...
I've rewired the rear view camera, so that I can enable it even while driving forward.
I've modified the AV-harness so that I have two +12V wires (with bullet connectors) coming from the CAM-POW wire. See attached photo.
Almost all preparations for a future front-view camera are finished. Modifying the radio's PCB is the only thing left to do, but I'm gonna wait for Icebox Auto's response regarding the warranty.
It's kind of funny to enable the rear view camera while driving forward. :silly:
@vassandrei An additional question regarding the CAM-POW wire:
Do you know how much current (mA) the CAM-POW wire can provide?
As you can see in my previous post, I’d like to connect two cameras to the CAM-POW wire. One of those cameras has 4 white LEDs built-in. How does a relay setup look and when is it needed? Or will two cameras work just fine?
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Hi all
Bought an RCA front camera as I was hoping I could use the f-cam app to get front and rear camera views and to get the front camera on for 10 seconds after reverse as per the option for the front camera in the factory settings.
So had a pig of an afternoon running the cables and what not but the only way I get the front cam view on display is by the AVIn app which isn’t ideal as it kills the radio and also seems to stall and affect the head unit.
Selecting front in the fcam app shows a warning of missing input and if you set it to activate after reverse the same occurs.
It’s strange for the unit that have the option of this function without actually doing it via the video in feed, Do I need another harness for this specifically for cam input??.
Here is the back of my unit. Can’t do the soldering to the board mod, but hoping there’s an easier way considering it’s part of the operating system.
Danno1975 said:
Hi all
Bought an RCA front camera as I was hoping I could use the f-cam app to get front and rear camera views and to get the front camera on for 10 seconds after reverse as per the option for the front camera in the factory settings.
So had a pig of an afternoon running the cables and what not but the only way I get the front cam view on display is by the AVIn app which isn’t ideal as it kills the radio and also seems to stall and affect the head unit.
Selecting front in the fcam app shows a warning [emoji615]️ of missing input and if you set it to activate after reverse the same occurs.
It’s strange for the unit that have the option of this function without actually doing it via the video in feed, Do I need another harness for this specifically for cam input??.
Here is the back of my unit. Can’t do the soldering to the board mod, but hoping there’s an easier way considering it’s part of the operating system.
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Isn't the front camera meant to be on usb?
hans.vinkers said:
Isn't the front camera meant to be on usb?
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Hi, only for dvr, I have that and it’s working well. But it doesn’t work with F-cam
Also noticed today that the rear f cam app is reversed ie left is right, but when reversing the view is correct. Can’t find any settings for the f-cam app.
Danno1975 said:
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Bought an RCA front camera as I was hoping I could use the f-cam app to get front and rear camera views and to get the front camera on for 10 seconds after reverse as per the option for the front camera in the factory settings.
So had a pig of an afternoon running the cables and what not but the only way I get the front cam view on display is by the AVIn app which isn’t ideal as it kills the radio and also seems to stall and affect the head unit.
Selecting front in the fcam app shows a warning of missing input and if you set it to activate after reverse the same occurs.
It’s strange for the unit that have the option of this function without actually doing it via the video in feed, Do I need another harness for this specifically for cam input??.
Here is the back of my unit. Can’t do the soldering to the board mod, but hoping there’s an easier way considering it’s part of the operating system.
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Did you connected power to the RCA front camera? I do have a switch on my car to give/cut power to front camera itself.
If I don't power it up I get warning sign as well.
Hello! did you solve this problem? Im having the same issue
I have been spending the last week or two reading nearly everything in these android head unit forums. I have but one suggestion I cannot seem to find anyone who has tried it. I will be testing this method out shortly my self. But have you considered a 4 way video splitter. I have no experience with fcam app btw. Also I would mention that I have spent most of my time trying to find threads or posts of people who have used factory front/rear , 360 cameras for parking assistance. So far most seem to only use back up cameras or front camera for DVR(dashcam). American market brands of these types of splitters are 100-300$ usd aliexpress chinacom versions are 20-50$ I will be buying a china version when I get ready to order parts.
Was a solution ever found to this problem?
I am in same situation.
I have "fcam" app but it only shows reverse picture, can't workout which pins are for front camera so running front camera through AVin ....like above this is not ideal
Did you ever figure this out? Currently dealing with the same scenario.
I sorted it by buying a different head unit.. I now have a brosmartek 8227L and front camera works as it has its own input connection. It holds front camera image for 3, 5 or 8 seconds after forward gear is engaged after reverse
Hi to all,
I have the same problem and I found the solution..
So I found this diagram into the forum (https://forum.xda-developers.com/android-auto/android-head-units/vw-head-unit-android-10-t4132083)
As you can see there is an input for f-cam (No9) but if you see the plug (radio cable) the specific pin have no cable.
You must connect a cable for video with a new cable connected to pin No9 and you must also take the cround from another connection (I took it from No40) and with this two new cables you can creat a new female RCA for the F-Cam..
I hope my solution to help you...
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Hi to all,
I have the same problem and I found the solution..
So I found this diagram into the forum (https://forum.xda-developers.com/android-auto/android-head-units/vw-head-unit-android-10-t4132083)
As you can see there is an input for f-cam (No9) but if you see the plug (radio cable) the specific pin have no cable.
You must connect a cable for video with a new cable connected to pin No9 and you must also take the cround from another connection (I took it from No40) and with this two new cables you can creat a new female RCA for the F-Cam..
I hope my solution to help you...
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hello, i am now attempting to do the same , what plug did you use on 9 ? and the one for 40 ground you just took it from slot 40 but where does it go on 9?
[SOLVED] TL: DR: Diagram show pink wire is for backup camera when the correct wire is brown as indicated by the tag on the wire itself.
I've had my SWM 8802 for about 8 months. I've always used a separate dashcam/backup cam combo, but also purchased a separate backup cam with an RCA output jack, and now I want to use it with my SWM 8802.
My head unit has a dedicated app from the home screen named AV In. Without anything connected (or connected but not powered, it just remains at the boot screen. Now my backup camera is tested and working. It has a power jack and an RCA jack. I tested this by hooking up a 12v 1A power adapter to it and an RCA cable from it to a TV, and it works. So with my vehicle I have the same power adapter connected to an extension cord. and it lights up.
The rear of my head unit has AV1, and AV2 (which I found out are video outputs), but it also has CAMIN and CVBSIN. Whne I have the camera going to CAMIN, and the AV In app activated, nothing shows up except the AV IN boot screen. However when I have the same RCA cable from the camera to the CVBSIN my head unit displays a red warning triangle with, "Viewing while driving strictly prohibited. Parking Break must be engaged to view." I don't know what the CVBS IN does, but if that's the only video port that works I'd like to find a way to disable that parking break sensor. Otherwise, why is the CAMIN not working the way it should? I can't have a backup camera if I have to have the parking brake enabled.
Attached is a photo of the wiring diagram that was advertised with the head unit. What steps should I take? The original RCA video cable has a red wire at both ends. What should those get attached to?
CAMIN is the input for the backup camera (CVBS camera - RCA plug).
CVBSIN is the input for the AUX AV IN camera (CVBS camera - RCA plug).
The backup camera will only display when triggered by the reverse gear signal... The pink wire in your image (PARKING SENSOR CONTROL) needs 12VDC when the vehicle is in reverse gear. This is usually connected to one of the reverse lamps at the rear of the vehicle (as is the power connector for the camera) so that the camera is powered up and the head unit switches tyo the camera input at the same time. The red wire in the video cable makes this easy... Attach the red wire to the pink wire at the head unit and connect the red wire to the power wire at the camera.
On almost all android head units, the backup (reverse) camera input is not available to the android operating system, so no android app can display the rear camera. The backup camera output is connected directly to the screen via the MCU so that the image is available even before the android operating system has booted.
The CVBSIN is the auxiliary in. Most unit require the brake wire (brown wire in your image) to be connected to ground before the image is displayed, for safety reasons. You can usually bypass it by connecting the brown wire directly to ground, or by selecting the bypass option that is available in the advanced car settings of most android head units.
That is excellent information! I wish that was included with the manual for all Android head units. I will try your suggestions and follow up. Thank you for this!
At first I tried the red wire to the stereo and no luck, only to come back and re-read the message and see that it should be a pink wire. I tried that = same.
Prior to this and after my first post. I had taken a terminal block and ran ring terminals to it. I hooked up my existing backup camera to it and it works fine, so I know those terminals are good. I ran new ones from the power connector + and - to the same terminals = still no video and no power to the camera. I made sure the car was on and the gear was in reverse. Perhaps I have to solder these ones on. Seems like the wires are a very small gauge for some reason. My alternative was to use an extension cord and plug that into the power of the camera, then test the video the Android head unit.
I just went ahead and bought a fuse tap, going to try that for the backup camera. I bought two, so if needed I can use another one to supply power to the camera itself.
I got it! It turns out that while the diagram showed the pink wire for the backup camera, the wire was labeled (or colored) wrong. I was out at my car this morning going to attempt it again when I traced the brown wire from the harness and it read "BACK". After some fiddling, I routed everything correctly including the powered RCA cable to a positive for the backup light, and the positive on the other end to the brown wire terminal. I started it up, hit the AV app, put it in reverse, and it displayed! So, it appears that when it down, use pink or brown to determine which one works.
I have a similar issue. My vehicle harness plugs straight in but its missing the cables for the brake. Is there a way of finding this easily? The cam works when plugged into the additional AV socket but so far can get it to work off the reverse.
Thanks.
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I installed android head unit bought from AliExpress. I don't know what board it has. It is 8+128GB, Android 10 OS. It is for Audi A6 2008, manual transmission. I also bought and installed camera.
Camera works fine if car engine is off. When it is on, camera screen is black. So I added relay to switch from reverse to cigarette lighter power to suply camera, and then my camera turns on when in reverse, but won't turn off. I must turn off car and remove key from ignition to turn off camera. I also tried some camera filter they gave me, instead of relay, but same result as with relay.
There is on the back of unit violet "360 DET" wire and red "Reverse camera power" wire. They told me to connect those two wires with green camera cable wire (which is in short circuit with cable other ends red power wire and goes to camera. Once activated by reverse, camera keeps 12v in its red wire even if it is removed from suply. Then only key removal will turn it off with whole system of course. I will put picture of wiring, if anybody can tell me is this correct way of wiring and what can be the problem. Car is 2008 A6, manual transmission, MMI 2G HIGH. There are pictures of unit and how camera is wired to unit. Also how relay is wired. Please help
JovanSRB said:
Hello.
I installed android head unit bought from AliExpress. I don't know what board it has. It is 8+128GB, Android 10 OS. It is for Audi A6 2008, manual transmission. I also bought and installed camera.
Camera works fine if car engine is off. When it is on, camera screen is black. So I added relay to switch from reverse to cigarette lighter power to suply camera, and then my camera turns on when in reverse, but won't turn off. I must turn off car and remove key from ignition to turn off camera. I also tried some camera filter they gave me, instead of relay, but same result as with relay.
There is on the back of unit violet "360 DET" wire and red "Reverse camera power" wire. They told me to connect those two wires with green camera cable wire (which is in short circuit with cable other ends red power wire and goes to camera. Once activated by reverse, camera keeps 12v in its red wire even if it is removed from suply. Then only key removal will turn it off with whole system of course. I will put picture of wiring, if anybody can tell me is this correct way of wiring and what can be the problem. Car is 2008 A6, manual transmission, MMI 2G HIGH. There are pictures of unit and how camera is wired to unit. Also how relay is wired. Please help
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Update: 360 DET wire must be connected to camera cable power wire. That wire goes to reverse light.
If there is screen flickering when engine is on, then relay have to be installed.
Relay is switched by reverse light power, connected to cigarette lighter suply then stable permanent power from cigarette ligher will suply camera.. pictures in first post are accurate, except red wire from unit that is cutted from circuit. It goes nowhere in this case.
Hi There,
I have installed a generic android 10.1 - 2GB (RAM)+32GB (ROM) unit and have an issue with the reverse camera.
When in reverse, screen blanks out but no image.
I have had the unit and the camera replaced and have had 2 experienced installers look at the problem but no fix.
Does anyone have any suggestions to fix the problem?
Also, do you think a 12V DC Kit Power Relay Filter Rectifiers Capacitor may help?
Thanks in advance
Bondibiz said:
Hi There,
I have installed a generic android 10.1 - 2GB (RAM)+32GB (ROM) unit and have an issue with the reverse camera.
When in reverse, screen blanks out but no image.
I have had the unit and the camera replaced and have had 2 experienced installers look at the problem but no fix.
Does anyone have any suggestions to fix the problem?
Also, do you think a 12V DC Kit Power Relay Filter Rectifiers Capacitor may help?
Thanks in advance
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The radio shows the blank black screen because the radio gets no video signal.
This can be related to 2 different things:
Missing 12V power at the camera.
Measure the cam connection for ground and +12V if your reverse gear is activated.
If there is missing something, you need to follow the cable and check the connections.
The fact that the black screen is shown, tells us that the radio itself is connected correctly.
Wrong CAM-In port used.
Check if you really used the CAM-In and not the Video-In connector
The capacitor is normally not helpful if you don´t get a video signal.
You don´t tell us in your posting how the power is provided to the cam. So that may help for further investigation.
rigattoni said:
The radio shows the blank black screen because the radio gets no video signal.
This can be related to 2 different things:
Missing 12V power at the camera.
Measure the cam connection for ground and +12V if your reverse gear is activated.
If there is missing something, you need to follow the cable and check the connections.
The fact that the black screen is shown, tells us that the radio itself is connected correctly.
Wrong CAM-In port used.
Check if you really used the CAM-In and not the Video-In connector
The capacitor is normally not helpful if you don´t get a video signal.
You don´t tell us in your posting how the power is provided to the cam. So that may help for further investigation.
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The power to the cam is provided by connecting the positives from the camera to the reverse light positive input and the negative earthed. This is then connected to the android head unit, video input and the reverse cable.
Bondibiz said:
The power to the cam is provided by connecting the positives from the camera to the reverse light positive input and the negative earthed. This is then connected to the android head unit, video input and the reverse cable.
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Did you check that the Cam is connected to the CAM-IN connector at the unit?
...and did you measure the voltage delivered to the cam?
Which car are you driving? Does it have LED back lights?
Does the cam deliver a picture if you connect it directly to +12V instead of using the back light?
Without measuring, there is no need to answer from your side. This is mandatory to step forward.
i have the same issue. reverse camera show during installation but after few hours no image. only can see the lines. i connect the rca to my tv.it show reverse image .
I already wrote it in another topic. You need to use search instead of a new topic.. I don't know which car and which head unit. I had a VW Golf 6 powered by the reversing light and there was interference, stripes across the image. There are suppressors for powering from the reversing light, also on AliExpress. But the better option is mine. I found a pin on my main unit directly for powering the backup camera, which has 12v when I put it in reverse. It works perfectly, without interference or problems. I have a Can-Bus system. I'll put the pin-out of my unit here. Maybe it will help you.
And what about the black image after putting it in reverse, either there is no 12v power supply for the camera, or the input for the camera is incorrect.. use the cinch Reverse Cam input, do not plug into the cinch Cam-in this it is used for the front camera. Another option is to set the main unit for the backup camera, maybe the system is NTSC and it is set to PAL, or vice versa, depending on where you come from. Another option is to set the input of the backup camera type AHD, and the camera is normal, SD, I I tried the AHD type (better quality) and the picture was black. Inform us.
I got some issued on my android car head unit. No video input, on reserse.
Usinf canbus cable pink for electricity.
Check the video here :
Hello friends,
Today I received the multimedia system that I ordered from AliExpress and of course the frame did not arrive compatible with the car (as I was promised),
But I improvised and managed to overcome it,
The problem is that I connect all the cables properly and turn on the car but the unit just doesnt turn on,
Maybe I'm missing something and I don't know? I even tried replacing the fuse, but nothing.
In the video you can see everything, although in the video I only connect the power cable, but before that I tried with everything...
the system should turn on even when nothing is connected except the power cable, right?
I would appreciate your help because I am at a loss and the seller is not really helpful..
seat ibiza 2016
yanivos89 said:
Hello friends,
Today I received the multimedia system that I ordered from AliExpress and of course the frame did not arrive compatible with the car (as I was promised),
But I improvised and managed to overcome it,
The problem is that I connect all the cables properly and turn on the car but the unit just doesnt turn on,
Maybe I'm missing something and I don't know? I even tried replacing the fuse, but nothing.
In the video you can see everything, although in the video I only connect the power cable, but before that I tried with everything...
the system should turn on even when nothing is connected except the power cable, right?
I would appreciate your help because I am at a loss and the seller is not really helpful..
seat ibiza 2016
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You should read the installation guide.
There are 2 power lines necessary to get it booting, and a ground to the car body.
There is a red one (mostly) which has BAT power at all time, and most probably a yellow one marked with ACC. This line switches the radio on when you turn the ignition key to on, so this line needs 12V from the ignition.
rigattoni said:
You should read the installation guide.
There are 2 power lines necessary to get it booting, and a ground to the car body.
There is a red one (mostly) which has BAT power at all time, and most probably a yellow one marked with ACC. This line switches the radio on when you turn the ignition key to on, so this line needs 12V from the ignition.
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this are the cables that i have
yanivos89 said:
this are the cables that i have
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Use a voltmeter or test light and measure the lines Battery, ACC and Ground.
Battery should have constant power and ACC should be powered if the ignition is on.
What is about the missing connection here?
yanivos89
To add the may be missing information:
You don´t feed the unit with any power. There is a connector with yellow and red line from both connectors, but you need to connect the one from the Quadlock to the head unit cable tree with the same colors. In the second picture I think there is an open connector for that.
thanks, you mean these orange and red wires? i connected them but still nothing
yanivos89 said:
thanks, you mean these orange and red wires? i connected them but still nothing
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I think that this connector does not fit your car
Connectors in green area are used for speakers. And metal connectors in plug (from vehicle) are present.
Connectors in red area are used to supply power [battery+, ground, ACC], buttons illumination etc. and metal connectors are NOT present.
Look at blue arrows for reference
What is cars brand, model and production year?
wotii098 said:
I think that this connector does not fit your car
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Connectors in green area are used for speakers. And metal connectors in plug (from vehicle) are present.
Connectors in red area are used to supply power [battery+, ground, ACC], buttons illumination etc. and metal connectors are NOT present.
Look at blue arrows for reference
What is cars brand, model and production year?
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seat ibiza 2016
wotii098 said:
I think that this connector does not fit your car
View attachment 5799475
Connectors in green area are used for speakers. And metal connectors in plug (from vehicle) are present.
Connectors in red area are used to supply power [battery+, ground, ACC], buttons illumination etc. and metal connectors are NOT present.
Look at blue arrows for reference
What is cars brand, model and production year?
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Do you have the same unit and cable tree?
I can´t see the counterpart of the Quadlock connector coming from the unit.
To get a proper answer, we should see both connectors from the front and the back.
rigattoni said:
Do you have the same unit and cable tree?
I can´t see the counterpart of the Quadlock connector coming from the unit.
To get a proper answer, we should see both connectors from the front and the back.
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No, those connectors are taken from yanivos89 photos - left is harness from his SEAT, right is from his android head unit.
There is no way to connect 52pin quadlock to 40 pin quadlock, even if plug physically it can be connected, the pins inside simply dont match.
yanivos89 said:
seat ibiza 2016
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Best you can do is contact seller and ask for new harness. You need 52 quadlock connector, similiar to rest of modern VW group cars
Volkswagen (2015-2020) WG8 Sensor-Screen Bluetooth Head Unit pinout diagram @ pinoutguide.com
Additionaly you need to know that in your case everything is highly dependable on CANBUS decoder - harness from your car doesn't provide ACC signal to wake radio or signal for buttons illumination. It is solved via CAN signals.
Maybe CANBUS decoder also has to be replaced if wrong harness was sent.
Ahhh... didn´t see that.
You are right. In this case he has a wrong cable tree from Ali.
thanks very much to you both! i will check this,
what about the canbus? also need to replace or it fit?
yanivos89 said:
thanks very much to you both! i will check this,
what about the canbus? also need to replace or it fit?
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...but you told us, that you was aware that the unit does not fit your car, right?
Wasn´t that good your decision to buy a not matching unit, right? Makes it complicated to reconfigure that stuff.
In this case: I think you will have to pay for a harness and may be also for a new CAN box. Try to buy one from the seller, or:
You also can buy a harness for VW/Skoda/Seat and crimp it to the current harness.
In this case you need to follow the connection graph on the unit and compare this with a picture of the OEM connector. Should be found on Google. May be the CAN connector works, may be not. There are a lot of CAN boxes available for your car in combination with Chinese aftermarket radios.
Good luck!
I think your car is MQB platform and the radio is for PQ platform. 52pin qadlock to 40pin. Maybe a reduction will help you
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mN4W48q
the harness of the 52 pins did solve my problem, thanks everyone for the help!