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Actually the subject speaks it self but,
As you probably know, after you install a custom ROM, you'll lose OTA eligibility which includes flash support for browser, bug fixes and much more.
Still, I know you'll keep on installing custom ROMs... So Convince me to install a custom ROM...
you lose (I was wrong you get OTA on custom roms) ota but anything OTA is gonna be on this site in seconds
When you are ready to void your warranty then install a custom ROM. What makes you think that these OTA updates won't magically find a place into custom ROMs?
With a custom ROM you get root access. You will never have root access with an OTA ROM, if you know enough about android and how to use root access then that should be enough for you.
henihazbay said:
Hi all
Actually the subject speaks it self but,
As you probably know, after you install a custom ROM, you'll lose OTA eligibility which includes flash support for browser, bug fixes and much more.
Still, I know you'll keep on installing custom ROMs... So Convince me to install a custom ROM...
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Chances are, anything included in an OTA update will be on XDA (by way of custom ROMS) before it hits phones via OTA. For example, multi-touch in the browser was already in Cyanogen's Rom (and possibly others). Sure, maps didn't have it, but only cause Cyanogen didn't enable it yet, posssibly because he figured Google would get to it in a short time anyway, who knows. The patch to enable full access to your memory was here first as well, and (at this time) we still don't know if today's OTA update includes this. Lots of other reasons to root, but if all you're worried about is getting OTA updates, you can stop worrying.
In fairness I've not noticed any performance increase on my Nexus One, since adding the Cyanogen rom on Sunday.
There are a few more apps, some extra options, and a really dodgy multitouch in the browser app, but I have to admit I don't really think it was worth it for me.
Fortunately I've got the nandroid backup of my stock rom, so in a week or so I'll probably restore that and get the OTA updates anyway...
the difference between cooked multitouch and the native one in the OTA is quite noticeable.
rather than estimating the pinch to zoom (like on the Hero/Sense UI) the new 2.1-update1 is extremely accurate zooming where your fingers are placed, as well as being smooth as butter.
Raymond77 said:
In fairness I've not noticed any performance increase on my Nexus One, since adding the Cyanogen rom on Sunday.
There are a few more apps, some extra options, and a really dodgy multitouch in the browser app, but I have to admit I don't really think it was worth it for me.
Fortunately I've got the nandroid backup of my stock rom, so in a week or so I'll probably restore that and get the OTA updates anyway...
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Is this possible? I think once you rooted, you can't get the OTAs anymore
if you are rooted but have stock bootloader and stock rom you can receive OTA updates still, and still install them aswell,
You do know that the features included in the official OTA that just was released a few days ago have already been placed into most of the available ROMs, when you root, you're really not "losing" the ability to get OTAs, you just are losing the ability to get them automatically sent to your phone. It just means you must install then manually, or, i.e, update the ROM your using.
When Flash 10.1 comes, do not worry, it will be in every ROM in a matter of hours. Or even before it is officially released - everything is possible after rooting. Also, after rooting, you are allowed to just do "more". Like have custom trackball colors, Nexus Torch, other apps that require ROOT access - and, for those who like installing different Android Builds, like Sense, that is all possible too.
rooting is more of a warranty issue then anything else.
this should do it look at the bottom 281 megs of free memory
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this should do it look at the bottom 281 megs of free memory
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Yep. But free memory is memory not being used for anything, so what's the point? It's an e-peen thing, like the guys who build triple SLI I7 gaming rigs with 12 gigs and use it to run WoW.
But one thing to consider is that an OTA update is generally well tested. Cooked ROMs are frequently not. The current Cyanogen 5.0 "stable" one has gone through three revisions in one day or so to correct for things that would normally be caught in a regression test pass for the "real bits."
The advantages of staying stock is that GOOG, HTC and TMO will have releases processes in place, quality gates for changes to pass, etc that the cooked rom scene does not.
The advantage of going rooted with a custom rom is you get new cool stuff sooner.
So. Root, nandroid and then try it out. If you don't like the result, restore. Done.
I'm running Cyan 5 beta 4. Have not installed the "stable" release build as I'm waiting for the bug churn to slow.
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this should do it look at the bottom 281 megs of free memory
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What software is that?
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What software is that?
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Advanced Task Manager.
Looking over the whole net to get an answer to this question.
What are the benefits of going rooted and installing a custom rom?
There is totally NO answer, cause the answer that EVERYBODY gives "you gain all the benefits of have your phone rooted" is just not an answer. What ar those benefits damn?
I know there's no straight answer, but I am looking for some examples....things that will show me some actual benefits in everyday use. And please dont give me the second most popular answer "you are able to install custom Roms"....
Yes...ok....but I want examples of the benefits of that, too...
(I have rooted my phone and installed Leedroid rom......and still trying to figure out why all that fuzz...)
Theres a whole search engine out there.
You serious? You necro'd a year and a half old thread to ask this?
If you go to any custom rom thread in this forum, you will be given access to a list of features.
Or you could google the rom in question, an example might be "Cyanogenmod features"
This was the second result:
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=Features
You say you have leedroid, which makes me suspect that A: you don't have a Nexus One, and B: You should have read the first post of the thread, where the features of the custom rom are included
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=842802
Rooting gives you all the features of the custom rom you choose to install. Every rom has it's own set of features, which may explain why there is no single 'answer' you are looking for.
Rooting without installing a custom rom limits you to extra features like Nandroid back ups, and things like setCPU.
thanks for taking the time to reply. I figured that I was on a wrong phone thread only after I posted (I have HTC desire). I guess I have to spend some time with my rooted+rom phone to understand the real benefits myself.
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Sounds like you are just lazy to me. You don't want to go read up like everyone else did. I say stick w/ stock rom so you don't make another thread that asking to convince you to go to a particular rom or just a bunch of random questions that are in stickies.
If you don't root, you don't get the 'H'!! LOL
If you ask everyone the forum, why they rooted their phone, 1/2 will not know why.
Some, surprisingly, believe they need to root their phone to get the 'H' to get faster internet speed.
Some believe their 'stock, non-rooted' phone always gets 'H' and that is how it comes from the store.
Some believe that if you root your phone, it will transform into a power ranger.
There are 2 reasons to root your phone as I see it
To access hardware you otherwise couldn't
To extend the life of your device by installing the latest/greatest custom ROM
For example, a stock N1 without root access can not utilize trackball wake, so if that is important to you, gain root access to the phone.
Also, the N1 is getting a little long in the tooth by smartphone standards and Google will presumably stop pushing updates one day. So if Android v5.0 is important to you, you will need root access to install CyanogenMod 9, which might help you squeeze more functionality from the phone.
The rest is software stuff. Notification power widgets, overclocking, toggle GPS via software are all dependent on root. But these things are just "niceties" and aren't necessarily limiting your hardware, IMO.
Hey guys, just a quick question. Please please excuse me for I am definitely a noob, but I've done some research about rooting and what it offers yet I still don't know how to use it. It feels much like learning how to drive a stick... understanding in theory, but difficult in application until practice. My note 3 is rooted, but I still have no idea what and how much I can do from here. Not to mention, while I'm doing research and trying to educate myself, there are some names and terms I do not understand. Anyway, let me just write some of the questions I have in a list:
1) Cyanogenmod. Is it available for verizon note 3 running 4.3? I keep getting search results that there are while the cyanogenmod website itself doesn't offer it? I also got a Nexus 7 to try to expand my knowledge in this field, and it does have cyanogenmod installed. Now, to my understanding, it runs side by side with the Android OS while it basically strips the device's bloatware, giving you the pure, simple, raw experience of Android OS. If I were to install cyanogenmod to the note 3, how would it affect the camera functions and the s pen functions? The reason why I ask about the camera is because using my Nexus's camera and looking at some youtube videos of note 2's with cyanogenmod, it seems like it would actually be a downgrade from the note 3's stock camera. And as far as the S pen goes, I've realized that I would lose the action notes, s notes, and sketchbook for galaxy apps, wouldn't I? How could I go around that?
2) Flashing ROMS. What exactly does this do? All I can find is that it allows me to customize my phone, but I don't seem to understand to what extent.
3) Kernels. What are these?
Lol, so sorry for such basic questions. But I would really really appreciate your patience and information!
CyanogenMod is unofficially available for the Note 3. Not everything works. CyanogenMod is a ROM that changes the software on the phone. It's a more customized version of Android, and very close to "stock". If you use CyanogenMod however, you will lose your S-Pen and it's features, along with all of the other TouchWiz features of the phone (gestures, split screen, etc.). The S-pen will act as a basic mouse pointer. CyanogenMod is not pure AOSP, it's quite far from it. It's similar, but very different from a pure Google experience. It's really a beast of it's own in my opinion, and is now a stand alone company that will seek to profit off of the ROM (likely by coming standard on some devices). That's not to say it isn't good, I run it on most of my other devices but on the Note 3, without the S-Pen it's just a big phone.
ROM's are customized versions of Android typically created by a developer or group of developers. The features of each ROM will change. A 4.3 TouchWiz rom might remove all of the carrier bloat (applications not likely used, but run in the background and offer little no actual use to anyone). They'll also provide enhancements and tweaks that make life a little easier like a quick-access flashlight tied to your volume up button, or the ability to remove certain icons from the notification panel, a batter percentage indicator in the notification panel, removing the exchange security permissions, or just general speed improvements over the factory settings. There are many advantages to a ROM and once you use them you'll likely never go back to stock. The ROM features are typically listed in the ROM's topic.
There are many ROM's out there for many different devices, so make sure you only install one that is made for your phone. You'll also hear about AOSP ROM's, these are stock or close-to-stock versions of Android, typically found on Nexus devices. The way Google intended Android to be used.
Android uses a Linux Kernal. It's a customized version of Linux. It's the base operating system behind Android. Similar to ROM's, different kernals can offer different levels of customization, however they won't be as prevalent as a ROM since they deal more with the core of the operating system. The Kernal will manage the drivers for all the different components of the phone, like your radios (how you receive a phone signal), your sensors, camera, CPU, etc. Be especially careful when changing Kernals, it can drastically affect your phone, and possibly permanently.
I'll put in the caveat that this is my understanding, and may not be 100% accurate. People are welcome to correct my mistakes and misunderstandings I may have =)
I hope you find it helpful!
Thank you for your response and information!
Okay, so I guess Cyanogenmod for the Note 3 is not an option for me since I enjoy using my S pen (I mean, why else would I have gotten the phone in the first place haha)
Could you direct me to some useful ROMs or recommend me some? The thing is, I had the Motorola Droid as my first smartphone and never really got into rooting or anything, and when I got the iPhone 4s, that's when I started learning about jailbreaking and got pretty good at it too. Now that I'm back to Android and learning about root, I've realized just how.. simple and basic jailbreaking is compared to rooting. So, would these ROMs be similar to tweaks you can get from the Cydia store in, let's say, behavior of the phone?
I don't think I would want to mess with kernels for a long while either, not until I get more acquainted with rooting in general.
ch0i said:
Thank you for your response and information!
Okay, so I guess Cyanogenmod for the Note 3 is not an option for me since I enjoy using my S pen (I mean, why else would I have gotten the phone in the first place haha)
Could you direct me to some useful ROMs or recommend me some? The thing is, I had the Motorola Droid as my first smartphone and never really got into rooting or anything, and when I got the iPhone 4s, that's when I started learning about jailbreaking and got pretty good at it too. Now that I'm back to Android and learning about root, I've realized just how.. simple and basic jailbreaking is compared to rooting. So, would these ROMs be similar to tweaks you can get from the Cydia store in, let's say, behavior of the phone?
I don't think I would want to mess with kernels for a long while either, not until I get more acquainted with rooting in general.
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Well first thing you need is safestrap so you can actually flash a ROM link here
This allows you to create limited size slots to flash a ROM to without effecting the stock ROM. There is a way around the size limitation of the slots, but I wouldn't worry about that yet. Just get a feel for it first before you risk bricking.
As for a ROM, head on over to the android development section and pick one. They all have great descriptions of what they have and what they don't. Personally I run hyperdrive and it makes a great daily driver. Still has enough of the original Samsung stuff to look like a Note 3 but allows you to tweak it much further. There are plenty others, and that's the beauty of safestrap, flash to your heart a content until you find one you like.
Kernals aren't something to worry about yet because the boot loader is still locked, limiting our ability to flash a kernal or a custom recovery at that. Unless something has changed that is... Has it? Did it get unlocked while I was asleep.
I you ever get stuck, search then ask. You might also want to read about ODIN here. since you're already rooted some of this doesn't pertain to you, but is still a good read as ODIN will help you recover from some problems.
Hope that helped.
blksprk said:
Well first thing you need is safestrap so you can actually flash a ROM link here
This allows you to create limited size slots to flash a ROM to without effecting the stock ROM. There is a way around the size limitation of the slots, but I wouldn't worry about that yet. Just get a feel for it first before you risk bricking.
As for a ROM, head on over to the android development section and pick one. They all have great descriptions of what they have and what they don't. Personally I run hyperdrive and it makes a great daily driver. Still has enough of the original Samsung stuff to look like a Note 3 but allows you to tweak it much further. There are plenty others, and that's the beauty of safestrap, flash to your heart a content until you find one you like.
Kernals aren't something to worry about yet because the boot loader is still locked, limiting our ability to flash a kernal or a custom recovery at that. Unless something has changed that is... Has it? Did it get unlocked while I was asleep.
I you ever get stuck, search then ask. You might also want to read about ODIN here. since you're already rooted some of this doesn't pertain to you, but is still a good read as ODIN will help you recover from some problems.
Hope that helped.
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It did! Thank you very much!
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It did! Thank you very much!
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The only option with Safestrap and therefore on newer Verizon Note 3's is a ROM based on stock, so Cyanogenmod isn't an option at all.
I would consider Hyperdrive. Enhanced app windowing options, Xposed framework to get rid of earphone hearing damage warning and never ending reminder about how to clear default apps and tons of little customizations. Getting rid of boot sound is reason enough for me.
Other things on your checklist whether you get a custom ROM or not is Adaware, which you can download on xda to block ads. Need Titanium Backup to back up apps with data, something you can't do without root and very useful when switching ROMs or phones. Lots of other useful tools like Root Explorer on Google Play. If you stick with your stock ROM, do the mod to allow free tethering for Wi-Fi.
Since you like your S Pen, you need Pen Window Manager, available on Play to choose for yourself which apps can run in a pen window. That was one of the big reasons I wanted to root this phone.
By the way, once you find a ROM you like, it's best to nandroid back it up, backup the stock ROM for safety, then restore your custom ROM to the Safestrap stock slot. The ROM 1-4 slots have limited storage so not great long term solution if you have a lot of apps, etc.
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Again, I had an S5 and I can easily remove and add toggles. But can't find it on the 6P. I want to add NFC toggle. I'd rather not get an app. I do have "system UI tuner" activated and in there is something looks like a customization menu but I can't get it to actually work.
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E46M3 said:
Again, I had an S5 and I can easily remove and add toggles. But can't find it on the 6P. I want to add NFC toggle. I'd rather not get an app. I do have "system UI tuner" activated and in there is something looks like a customization menu but I can't get it to actually work.
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Flash a custom rom and embrace the power of real customization.
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micmars said:
Flash a custom rom and embrace the power of real customization.
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What's the point of getting the 6P if it needs to be rooted? I'm starting to think pure Android is maybe overrated.
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E46M3 said:
What's the point of getting the 6P if it needs to be rooted? I'm starting to think pure Android is maybe overrated.
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Well, perhaps for you it is.
Where, pray tell, does it say that your device needs to be rooted? Did you think that buying a Nexus 6P would simply imbue your phone with whatever feature you decided Google should have, that Samsung did...and the dev community has provided for you, free of charge?
Why stop there? Why not ask for Blink feed? I mean, HTC has it, why didn't Google provide that?
You're on a site devoted to custom roms, rooting, and making more from the stock experience.
So what are the advantages of a pure Android experience? Let's see...
1. Almost all roms built from stock or AOSP will function flawlessly, sans crapware installed by Samsung, LG, HTC, whatever
2. Swiftly unlock, root, etc
3. Go back to stock and still get a better experience than bloated devices from other manufacturers with carrier branding.
You want the toggle, flash a rom. Try a rom like Cataclysm if you want a close-to-stock experience...but it's going to need root if you want those features.
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micmars said:
Well, perhaps for you it is.
Where, pray tell, does it say that your device needs to be rooted? Did you think that buying a Nexus 6P would simply imbue your phone with whatever feature you decided Google should have, that Samsung did...and the dev community has provided for you, free of charge?
Why stop there? Why not ask for Blink feed? I mean, HTC has it, why didn't Google provide that?
You're on a site devoted to custom roms, rooting, and making more from the stock experience.
So what are the advantages of a pure Android experience? Let's see...
1. Almost all roms built from stock or AOSP will function flawlessly, sans crapware installed by Samsung, LG, HTC, whatever
2. Swiftly unlock, root, etc
3. Go back to stock and still get a better experience than bloated devices from other manufacturers with carrier branding.
You want the toggle, flash a rom. Try a rom like Cataclysm if you want a close-to-stock experience...but it's going to need root if you want those features.
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Obviously I don't want the unnecessary bloatware from Samsung but I get your point. I should flash a custom ROM to make it more customizable. TBH, I have never rooted my phones and maybe I'm a bit nervous about doing it. Maybe afraid of bricking it. What are some of the advantages of using a custom ROM? I guess I'm a noob in this regard. Thanks!
E46M3 said:
Obviously I don't want the unnecessary bloatware from Samsung but I get your point. I should flash a custom ROM to make it more customizable. TBH, I have never rooted my phones and maybe I'm a bit nervous about doing it. Maybe afraid of bricking it. What are some of the advantages of using a custom ROM? I guess I'm a noob in this regard. Thanks!
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Excellent...yeah, you'd be surprised by the number of folks who have asked this question in their head and didn't have the temerity to simply ask...so good for you. Seriously...I lurked for a bit, and then hit a few of the noob friendly threads and just asked all kinds of crazy stuff. I'm one of those measure 10x, cut once types.
As to the benefits, if you chose to simply root your device and flash zero custom roms, it gives you these benefits...
1. Kill advertising in apps, on your browser, etc
2. The ability to use your device as a portable hotspot without getting into a hard limit from your cellphone provider (don't overdo it, but it's awesome)
3. The ability to put themes on your phone that don't have Google's horrible White UI...I mean, this phone has an amoled display that makes black look as deep black as you'll find, yet Google made all of these ugly white backgrounds. You may find yourself wanting to try all kinds of themes
4. The ability to backup your entire device exactly as it is now, without having to restore so of your apps, etc.
5. The ability to do things like clear all recents using an app like Chainfire offers in the play store, instead of swiping every dang one of them
6. The ability to own your device instead of being stuck with plain vanilla Google
I'm sure there's more, but that's a quick punch list, taking a minimalist perspective.
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micmars said:
Excellent...yeah, you'd be surprised by the number of folks who have asked this question in their head and didn't have the temerity to simply ask...so good for you. Seriously...I lurked for a bit, and then hit a few of the noob friendly threads and just asked all kinds of crazy stuff. I'm one of those measure 10x, cut once types.
As to the benefits, if you chose to simply root your device and flash zero custom roms, it gives you these benefits...
1. Kill advertising in apps, on your browser, etc
2. The ability to use your device as a portable hotspot without getting into a hard limit from your cellphone provider (don't overdo it, but it's awesome)
3. The ability to put themes on your phone that don't have Google's horrible White UI...I mean, this phone has an amoled display that makes black look as deep black as you'll find, yet Google made all of these ugly white backgrounds. You may find yourself wanting to try all kinds of themes
4. The ability to backup your entire device exactly as it is now, without having to restore so of your apps, etc.
5. The ability to do things like clear all recents using an app like Chainfire offers in the play store, instead of swiping every dang one of them
6. The ability to own your device instead of being stuck with plain vanilla Google
I'm sure there's more, but that's a quick punch list, taking a minimalist perspective.
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In the interest of full disclosure, you should also be aware of the downsides to this stuff. The primary one being that it is very easy to make changes to the system partition that will prevent you from being able to successfully apply OTA updates. Once /system has been modified, you will have to either flash back to stock to accept the OTA or just flash the new build after downloading it from Google. There is also the risk that you will brick your phone, although that risk is VERY low if you can follow instructions. I personally find the benefits to vastly outweigh the drawbacks, but you should at least know that there are some drawbacks, namely the OTA thing. Once you flash a few times and get over the uneasiness of not knowing what you are doing, it is really quite easy and quick.
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In the interest of full disclosure, you should also be aware of the downsides to this stuff. The primary one being that it is very easy to make changes to the system partition that will prevent you from being able to successfully apply OTA updates. Once /system has been modified, you will have to either flash back to stock to accept the OTA or just flash the new build after downloading it from Google. There is also the risk that you will brick your phone, although that risk is VERY low if you can follow instructions. I personally find the benefits to vastly outweigh the drawbacks, but you should at least know that there are some drawbacks, namely the OTA thing. Once you flash a few times and get over the uneasiness of not knowing what you are doing, it is really quite easy and quick.
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Agreed, but to split hairs, that's in the interest of thoroughness, since that which you've written is included in the OP of every thread on these forums. Indeed, Google publishes instructions for exactly how to unlock and update your device on their own site.
I think that it's wise to aver that one should learn before doing, and that includes knowing the risks of rooting.
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If you turn on developer options you can customize them a little but not a lot. Meaning adding 1 or 2 more options and disabling a few. Can also turn on battery level on the notification bar.
micmars said:
Excellent...yeah, you'd be surprised by the number of folks who have asked this question in their head and didn't have the temerity to simply ask...so good for you. Seriously...I lurked for a bit, and then hit a few of the noob friendly threads and just asked all kinds of crazy stuff. I'm one of those measure 10x, cut once types.
As to the benefits, if you chose to simply root your device and flash zero custom roms, it gives you these benefits...
1. Kill advertising in apps, on your browser, etc
2. The ability to use your device as a portable hotspot without getting into a hard limit from your cellphone provider (don't overdo it, but it's awesome)
3. The ability to put themes on your phone that don't have Google's horrible White UI...I mean, this phone has an amoled display that makes black look as deep black as you'll find, yet Google made all of these ugly white backgrounds. You may find yourself wanting to try all kinds of themes
4. The ability to backup your entire device exactly as it is now, without having to restore so of your apps, etc.
5. The ability to do things like clear all recents using an app like Chainfire offers in the play store, instead of swiping every dang one of them
6. The ability to own your device instead of being stuck with plain vanilla Google
I'm sure there's more, but that's a quick punch list, taking a minimalist perspective.
Sent from my Nexus 6P, #WhiteUIsMustDie, #EndDarkAppOppression
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I'm kinda confused, what's zero custom ROMS? meaning no ROMS? Or is that a name of a ROM? I thought rooting a phone means flashing a ROM.
NPOA556 said:
In the interest of full disclosure, you should also be aware of the downsides to this stuff. The primary one being that it is very easy to make changes to the system partition that will prevent you from being able to successfully apply OTA updates. Once /system has been modified, you will have to either flash back to stock to accept the OTA or just flash the new build after downloading it from Google. There is also the risk that you will brick your phone, although that risk is VERY low if you can follow instructions. I personally find the benefits to vastly outweigh the drawbacks, but you should at least know that there are some drawbacks, namely the OTA thing. Once you flash a few times and get over the uneasiness of not knowing what you are doing, it is really quite easy and quick.
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Thanks for the heads up!
tnerb123 said:
If you turn on developer options you can customize them a little but not a lot. Meaning adding 1 or 2 more options and disabling a few. Can also turn on battery level on the notification bar.
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I did that, and I tried to turn on and off features but it doesn't reflect in actual pulldown. No matter what I turn on or off, everything stays the same in the pulldown menu.
E46M3 said:
I'm kinda confused, what's zero custom ROMS? meaning no ROMS? Or is that a name of a ROM? I thought rooting a phone means flashing a ROM.
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Well, if you look in the Android Development section of these forums, you'll find stock, pre-rooted roms with almost zero features...just root added.
Or, you could just flash the SuperSU zip, and have a completely stock rom and still do all of those things I referenced.
So no, rooting doesn't necessitate you flashing a custom rom.
Some think that stock with root is the very best user experience.
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Paranoid Android 2016 Launch
We are launching brand spanking fresh. All new features. New team members. New everything and we have made sure that everything that we are releasing has been polished to our best.
The main features and enhancements that you will probably end up noticing are our custom Quick Settings tile reordering functionality, floating window support, immersive mode, the new on-the-spot interface and CM Theme Engine.
Quick Settings tiles can be managed with ease - you can reorder the tiles by simply long pressing them, remove them by dropping them in the trash bin and add them back in from the add panel. The hidden tiles will be out of your way when checking the notifications but will still be usable from the add panel without any hassles if you want to do that all of a sudden.
You can make an application float either by long pressing a notification and tapping the floating button or by tapping the floating button for the application in the recents list. Additionally, you can make peeking (heads-up) notifications open floating windows by enabling that behavior in the "Floating peek" tile.
Those are not the only changes and features we have added. There are a variety of improvements to CAF devices (OnePlus, OPPO and others) which add custom kernels, advanced gesture and buttons control and more to provide a great experience on those devices. Of course we have spent a lot of attention on making all the visual details look right and on making all the functionality work right.
Over the months we have gained a bunch of new team members. We are now ready for all varieties of work - be it low level, aesthetics, user experience, motion design, testing or anything in-between. What we strive for is the best and we are stronger than ever to reach that.
On Paranoid Android 2016 launch we are supporting popular Nexus devices (6P, 5X, 6, 5, 4, 7 2013, 9) and the OnePlus family (One, 2, X) along with some Sony devices. The lineup is this way to make sure we release the best possible experience on all the devices we release for. No compromises, pure greatness.
We highly recommend everyone to use OpenGapps full version (do not use stock). Nexus 6P users need to make sure their vendor partitions are up-to-date (6.0.1). Our Nexus 5X builds come with a prebuilt vendor image so no worries for you folks!
There is more to come in #aospa2016 but for now, grab your builds at http://get.aospa.co/ and #stayparanoid!
ok, a simple question.. so what?
Sooooooooooooooooooooooooooo excited ! I'm flashing right now. I was worried someone was just bumping an old thread !
Holy crap this is great news. Used PA on my old Samsung Infuse back in the day
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Interesting... Cant wait to see a fresh rom from them and try it out. Happy with Pure Nexus atm but im always for trying a paranoid rom.
best rom for nexus devices, i used this rom from nexus 4, nexus 5, now it avalible for my nexus 6, so nice
Great, just when I've sold my N6.
Hope they develop for the 1+1 though...
instruction not clear. stuck in patching system image unconditionally. what should i do captain?
don't use stock kernel if you unencrypted.........flash a different kernel if you are or you will lose everything...
simms22 said:
ok, a simple question.. so what?
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Seems to be a popular ROM and people are excited to see it back in action. That's what.
My nexus 6 is still on paranoid Android version of 5.1.1 how do I update to 6.0? Anyone know what I need to do (bootloader's radios etc) to successfully update? I'm currently encrypted and don't mind staying that way.
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flash the latest radio and bootloader, first, just to make sure
there is a thread in dev that has them all
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don't use stock kernel if you unencrypted.........flash a different kernel if you are or you will lose everything...
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Or use this... [MOD][GUIDE] Unencrypt/Flashable - Disable Force Encryption - Any Rom/Kernel and you can use the stock kernel and remain unencrypted.
I've been running this since the announcement yesterday and everything is going smoothly so far. Very stable so far with no reboots or app crashes. Not a ton of features in the rom yet but I'm sure with some time this will be an amazing Rom. It pretty much already is.
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Or use this... [MOD][GUIDE] Unencrypt/Flashable - Disable Force Encryption - Any Rom/Kernel and you can use the stock kernel and remain unencrypted.
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I messed up and allowed the ROM to boot before I could install a custom kernel or use that guide. TWRP is asking me for an encryption password now. Is there some kind of default password that got set or am I screwed?
Just skip it, I forget what to hit but don't type anything and hit enter or something, it'll skip thru it
murtaza02 said:
Great, just when I've sold my N6.
Hope they develop for the 1+1 though...
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They support 1+1 on their official release's: http://get.aospa.co/official/bacon
Anyone got the lockscreen to work?
Is Franco kernel working?
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mine is stuck in patching system image unconditionally., tried with franco and exkernel and stays there
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They support 1+1 on their official release's: http://get.aospa.co/official/bacon
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I tried their new build.
Wasn't too impressed. Charging is painfully slow, camera is horrible, flashing a custom kernel breaks the camera and it was a real challenge to actually get the ROM to boot.
Hope they fix it in their newer builds.
P.S: I'm talking about the 1+1 here, not the N6 in case anyone was wondering.
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I'm hoping someone can give me the general consensus on whether flashing ROMS for this device vs staying on stock is best. I'm not currently up on the state of Samsung bloatware, if it's gotten better or worse. I found an open box at BB for $300. I'd say excellent condition. I'm getting it for my 12 year old daughter. I suppose the main concern is the general stability of flashing, say Lineage, and the lag that Samsung has, or at least used to have, as they age.
Thanks much!
orangepowerpokes said:
I'm hoping someone can give me the general consensus on whether flashing ROMS for this device vs staying on stock is best. I'm not currently up on the state of Samsung bloatware, if it's gotten better or worse. I found an open box at BB for $300. I'd say excellent condition. I'm getting it for my 12 year old daughter. I suppose the main concern is the general stability of flashing, say Lineage, and the lag that Samsung has, or at least used to have, as they age.
Thanks much!
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If I was going to use the tablet myself, I'd certainly flash a custom ROM and get root access. But for a 12yr old girl, I'd stay with stock and know she'd be getting the latest security updates. It's not like this was an 8 or 16gb tablet where getting rid of bloatware would be a major concern. It has plenty of storage and RAM to handle that. Just my two bits.
I only hand my son tablets / phones that can run custom ROMs (Lineage in particular). This way I can control what goes on them, what software, what he sees. I guess you could do similar things with a rooted stock device, but still. The other half of that is, most of the devices I give my son are old enough they aren't getting security updates from the manufacturers anymore. In those cases the only way to get security updates of any sort is to run custom ROMs.
Having rooted my tablet and also installed twrp I would certainly not do it for someone else to use
I would suggest buying package disabler pro and disabling all bloatware and Bixby.
When you use 'disable bloatware' on package disabler, it disables storage on sd card. So you just need to look through the disabled list and re-enable external storage.
Other than that small bug it is excellent.
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Having rooted my tablet and also installed twrp I would certainly not do it for someone else to use
I would suggest buying package disabler pro and disabling all bloatware and Bixby.
When you use 'disable bloatware' on package disabler, it disables storage on sd card. So you just need to look through the disabled list and re-enable external storage.
Other than that small bug it is excellent.
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Have you noticed a performance improvement? I see that it is slow for ordinary use such as social networks, the web and reading books.
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Have you noticed a performance improvement? I see that it is slow for ordinary use such as social networks, the web and reading books.
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I can't really say as I installed package disabler pro when I first had the tablet as I hate apps like bixby.
My tablet has always seemed plenty fast to me
Regards Extall
Not much bloatware on One UI.
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Have you noticed a performance improvement? I see that it is slow for ordinary use such as social networks, the web and reading books.
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I have read books with $29 dollar chinese knockoffs. How long does it take to turn a page? My very first tablet had an Antutu of about 900. This one about 185,000. I was still able to "surf the net" with that first one. They say that beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I'm beginning to doubt that. I think it is in the MIND of the beholder. How anyone can consider this tablet slow for surfing or social networking, just blows my mind. "OH, but my latest and greatest iPad is just SOOO much better."
I can't remember having an Android device since my OG Droid that I didn't root and flash. I'm going to skip that for this S5e, for the first time. Everything I do with it these days, my head isn't bumping into it's 'ceiling', so to speak. My SM-T580 was a different story (thank goodness for @followmsi and @srgrussso among others), and custom paid off very well.
Then again, maybe I'm just getting old.:laugh: :highfive:
orangepowerpokes said:
I'm hoping someone can give me the general consensus on whether flashing ROMS for this device vs staying on stock is best. I'm not currently up on the state of Samsung bloatware, if it's gotten better or worse. I found an open box at BB for $300. I'd say excellent condition. I'm getting it for my 12 year old daughter. I suppose the main concern is the general stability of flashing, say Lineage, and the lag that Samsung has, or at least used to have, as they age.
Thanks much!
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I have the Verizon LTE version and even with the Verizon preinstalled apps it doesn't take up a lot of space. I have the 64GB version and I had PLENTY of space for all of my apps. I put a 512GB microSD card in it so I don't have any space issues.
I rooted the SM-T725 few months ago when i got it but this was the 3rd time i had problems booting up and the twrp backup didn't work this time so i just cleaned it and i use stock now and i removed bloatware with ADB. I use only open source software no more google. But that just my way, if you want to root go with it but if its just to remove bloatware just use ADB.
Android 10 coming this june/july and probably android 11 will come to this tablet too because samsung does 2 major android updates to the device they release. If they don't you can unlock the bootloader and install android 11 in the future if a developer make it of course but i doubt it because galaxy tab s6 lite is coming soon so i don't know the future of this tablet.
S5e
OhioYJ said:
I only hand my son tablets / phones that can run custom ROMs (Lineage in particular). This way I can control what goes on them, what software, what he sees. I guess you could do similar things with a rooted stock device, but still. The other half of that is, most of the devices I give my son are old enough they aren't getting security updates from the manufacturers anymore. In those cases the only way to get security updates of any sort is to run custom ROMs.
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Just got this SM-T720 & was planning on putting Lineage 17.1 (OFFICIAL) on it.
Got the firmware, Magisk, TWRP all downloaded.
But on TWRP's site it says you have to root before installing a "rooted TWRP" image?
What's with this?
Not asking for a full tutorial but seriously TWRP can't just be flashed in Odin then vbmeta multi-
disabler, WIPE, then flash ROM + Magisk?
Any help will be greatly appreciated. My posts elsewhere are days old & no replies....
zach
I just got this tablet yesterday. I've had several previous Android tablets and phones and I've always rooted them. So far, I haven't run into anything that makes me want to root this one. I was pleasantly surprised to find that there is a battery protection setting that allows you to limit charging to 85%. Normally, you have too root to do that. I may find a need to root somewhere down the road, but right now I'm hoping to get by with stock and unroofed.
Can you keep dex on other ROMs?
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Just got this SM-T720 & was planning on putting Lineage 17.1 (OFFICIAL) on it.
Got the firmware, Magisk, TWRP all downloaded
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I've done it a few times and I would recommend following the maintainers instructions, LuK1337's Instructions . Dont skip anything, dont add anything, dont wipe anything that isnt listed, follow them exactly.
This tablet is picky. Magisk can be flashed in TWRP, but from what Ive found many modules can't, they will make the tablet fail to boot. Most modules can only be flashed in Magisk. My recommendation would be to get it booting before adding modules or even Magisk for that matter.
I'm using mine as stock, and this seems plenty fast for the 2 weeks I've owned it. Slow to read books? That sounds like an app problem - moon reader on a 2018 Fire HD 8 didn't have a problem reading books. How slow is the Fire 8? If I was in plex, hit the home button, and started netflix it was about 10 seconds from the press of the home button until netflix was responsive.
Besides, do you really want to have to fix your kid's devices when they inevitably have a problem?
**Edit** I also have a question. Are there any security issues when flashing roms or rooting on this like with the phones with KNoX and not being able to use secure folder and such? Im guessing if I flash a ROM I'd also be losing access to this right? (samsung apps and secure folder) Thank you!
Ughh Im kind of regretting buying this tablet now..did I make a mistake? From what Ive seen on here, it sounds like its best not to root it. Ive found that on some newer devices, irts best not to root them to avoid unnecessary problems because some just dont work well with root and magisk, especially if a lot of the modules arent going to work. I mean I dont really have any reason to root this except for not being able to use / change the themes. I cant believe they dont have the theme store on this tablet! I'm so bummed thats one of the good things about samsung phone that I miss.