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So i dont know if my battery is dying or if there is a glitch. But when my battery runs low, about 15%, i plug the charger in until it reaches about 40% charged. With the charger still intact, i do a soft rest, HOLD CALL, HOLD MENU and CLICK END CALL, and voila! The battery is fully charged after it fully boots up. Can anyone contest that this is true?
it just gets negative reading... its not really a 100 % heh
LOLOL!!!
Definately not charged.
i recall there's an issue with 1.5 firmware with the battery life....search the Development's thread for this.
OMG!!!!!! I'm gonna do this now!!!
thanks for the contribution to the community.
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OMG!!!!!! I'm gonna do this now!!!
thanks for the contribution to the community.
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LOL.
Now that's funny!
I might not do this, for it may glitch my g1 thinking its full and bam died out of nowhere
Yeah ur phone is definitly not 100% charged, the battery just isn't calibrated correctly anymore.
I'd recommend you recalibrate it in order to get your full battery life out of it again, or else your probably going to find yourself running out of battery faster than usual.
Hillarious...
The title should really read "How to make your G1 think a battery is full, while only at 40% charge"
hahahaha yeah. Let's use logic next time we make a post, shall we dumplin101?
ZOMG SO COOL!
(that was a joke)
Im not a battery junkie so my theory may be wrong, but let me explain a little of what i have learned from automotive batteries.
Remember this is an automotive battery.
Technically an auto battery is charged at 12.6 volts, but the amperage also needs to be rated at whatever the battery may need to be. for simplicities sake we will say that a battery is 12.6 volts and 500 cold cranking amps.
The battery will loose a charge to 9.6 volts and 260 amps.
If we put this battery on a charger and get it back to 12.6 volts but we did not give it enough time for the amperage to get back to normal we would have a 12.6 volt battery at 350 amps. the voltage is 100% but the amperage is not. the full battery capacity is not there and will not work the same way.
in your case I would bet that that battery also drains faster when you perform the charge like that. another thing that can happen is that when you first boot it up the phone software needs to adjust the true reading of you may be sending a voltage spike to the readings.
Remember, this is just a theory.
Yes that is correct, BUT....BUT! this is a PHONE HAHAHAHA! jk man, yea that is true, i work on cars all the time, and sometimes i get customers who come to me with dead batteries because they charge them too much.
In all seriousness, I've found that my battery charges faster when I turn airplane mode on. Really. It could totally be in my head, but it seems like it.
nolageek said:
In all seriousness, I've found that my battery charges faster when I turn airplane mode on. Really. It could totally be in my head, but it seems like it.
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And it would charge even faster if you turned the phone off.
The charger puts out 5v at 1A. That's all it can do.
If you have all the features turned on, that uses up a certain amount of juice, and the rest is used for charging. If the phone is off (or most/all features are turned off) most if not all of the juice is going to charging the battery.
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And it would charge even faster if you turned the phone off.
The charger puts out 5v at 1A. That's all it can do.
If you have all the features turned on, that uses up a certain amount of juice, and the rest is used for charging. If the phone is off (or most/all features are turned off) most if not all of the juice is going to charging the battery.
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Your right on this because i noticed less than an hour my phone was fully charged when turned off.
Anybody ever look at the power ratings on the wall charger vs the car charger?
I was told my car charger was a quick charger, but never took the time to look at the power ratings.
i just did the reset thing to my phone and now am at 100% too!
This is way better than having to plug it in! Gonna throw all these wires in the garbage!
Thank God for unlimited power! !!!!!!
droid01 said:
i just did the reset thing to my phone and now am at 100% too!
This is way better than having to plug it in! Gonna throw all these wires in the garbage!
Thank God for unlimited power! !!!!!!
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lol at your avatar and your comment
kizer said:
Anybody ever look at the power ratings on the wall charger vs the car charger?
I was told my car charger was a quick charger, but never took the time to look at the power ratings.
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Car chargers charge faster, but less completely. It's a trickle charge, so it'll fill it up faster, but it's not great for your battery and it isn't a solid charge like your home AC charger will give it. Use your car charger sparingly, and always give it a full charge on the AC charger as soon as you can after using your car charger.
x10 has been on the charger for over an hour, still sitting at 1%, lol
when i went to bed at 2:40am, it was at 40%, woke up at 7:30am to 14%, got to work at 8:45am, it was at 4%. been plugged in since about 9am (10:19am now), and it's still at 1%. red LED is on, phone works, but shuts down shortly after unplugging it.
nothing running in the background, airplane mode on.
don't know if it's the battery, or the phone, but it's going back today. and i'll be getting something other than the x10. probably something other than android at this point (4th android device).
this is really weird since i have never had a battery issue up until this morning. the battery always lasted atleast a day an a half.
Is there really an os superior to android at this point?
webos is pretty killer but palm phones suck so far (though the hp pre 3 looks incredible)
at this point?
no
in the future for some current os?
yes
i'm not looking superiorority, just something else.
*UPDATE:
plugged the cable into a different usb slot, apparently that was the problem, lol. it's up to 4% now.
svtfmook said:
at this point?
no
in the future for some current os?
yes
i'm not looking superiorority, just something else.
*UPDATE:
plugged the cable into a different usb slot, apparently that was the problem, lol. it's up to 4% now.
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I suggest you to charge in the wall socket. Usb is way too slow.
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Its happen to me once a while especially when I change my Rom...What I do is turn off my phone and pull out the battery for few minutes and put it back and charge it..If the battery do not heat up when you charge then the battery is charging but if it become hot than usual repeat same procedure..
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I suggest you to charge in the wall socket. Usb is way too slow.
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yeah, but wall charging discharges faster. slow trickle charging is better for the battery.
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yeah, but wall charging discharges faster. slow trickle charging is better for the battery.
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This is not true. You can see how my phone is going charged in wall socket.
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if you're going to use usb, then expect it to charge slow, also charging it via plug is better and doesn't discharge faster :\
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This is not true. You can see how my phone is going charged in wall socket.
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You're correct... the only reason it would appear to discharge quicker is because of the added heat as the phone/battery gets warmer when using the wall charger.
Otherwise the discharge rate would be exactly the same for both methods
Well...u could try "OFF mode" charging. 2.2. see that works or nt...
Svt try this, this works for me.
Flash back too 2.1 stock s.e fw. Go charge for 100% .
It should fix the problem.
When you flash custom rom clean bat stat. Note- dont clean bat stat again when your in a running custom rom.
I have this problem too on j's rom v12. im 100% charged, and try to plug again the charger its charging but the bat is decreasing, weird hehe.
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fiscidtox said:
You're correct... the only reason it would appear to discharge quicker is because of the added heat as the phone/battery gets warmer when using the wall charger.
Otherwise the discharge rate would be exactly the same for both methods
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It gets warm but not so much. And very important thing is when you charge in wall to turn off charging right after it reaches 100%. It's not healthy to leave it in.
G-FACE said:
It gets warm but not so much. And very important thing is when you charge in wall to turn off charging right after it reaches 100%. It's not healthy to leave it in.
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it gets much warmer than by usb as the current is double....
That's why it would appear to discharge quicker until the battery cools down.
fiscidtox said:
it gets much warmer than by usb as the current is double....
That's why it would appear to discharge quicker until the battery cools down.
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Exactly!
According to my experience, that is the only difference between charging via USB and on the wall. If you do the latter, it appears to be discharging faster at first, but after it settles, it holds the charge just as well.
Ok, you can see my battery temp when charging trough wall socket. When not charging the temp is about 34 degree. So wall charging doesn't make the phone too heat more than a usb.
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I beg to differ..mine is much warmer on the wall charger than when charged via usb... Especially during the end of the charge
Rather dramatic title!
I was expecting an equally dramatic story, but pfft! haha
svtfmook said:
x10 has been on the charger for over an hour, still sitting at 1%, lol
when i went to bed at 2:40am, it was at 40%, woke up at 7:30am to 14%, got to work at 8:45am, it was at 4%. been plugged in since about 9am (10:19am now), and it's still at 1%. red LED is on, phone works, but shuts down shortly after unplugging it.
nothing running in the background, airplane mode on.
don't know if it's the battery, or the phone, but it's going back today. and i'll be getting something other than the x10. probably something other than android at this point (4th android device).
this is really weird since i have never had a battery issue up until this morning. the battery always lasted atleast a day an a half.
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Do yu have custom rom?
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My battery depletes even during charging for example if i play game or use barnacle.I have tried 3-4 different ROMS and its still the same.ALso,it take a lot of time to charge 100 percent.What is the problem guys.
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My battery depletes even during charging for example if i play game or use barnacle.I have tried 3-4 different ROMS and its still the same.ALso,it take a lot of time to charge 100 percent.What is the problem guys.
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The radio in the x10 is the problem.
Ask SE to program better.
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My battery depletes even during charging for example if i play game or use barnacle.I have tried 3-4 different ROMS and its still the same.ALso,it take a lot of time to charge 100 percent.What is the problem guys.
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Do you charge the phone via USB (computer)?
This is a common issue if you use your conmputer as a USB charger. Computer USB can't supply enough energy to your phone. The USB current is too low only 0.3mA or 0.5mA.
Just use the ORIGINAL charger or other well-quality charger with higher current (700mA+). This is enough for both charging and playing. Of course the charging will take longer time while playing.
The higher current will not damage your phone. It will charge your phone faster.
NotOriginal and cheap charger may have low current-output or the charger is sometimes bad designed than the phone will recognize it as i computer USB. (if bad designed than the phone takes only low current even if the charger is able to supply more)
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Do you charge the phone via USB (computer)?
This is a common issue if you use your conmputer as a USB charger. Computer USB can't supply enough energy to your phone. The USB current is too low only 0.3mA or 0.5mA.
Just use the ORIGINAL charger or other well-quality charger with higher current (700mA+). This is enough for both charging and playing. Of course the charging will take longer time while playing.
The higher current will not damage your phone. It will charge your phone faster.
NotOriginal and cheap charger may have low current-output or the charger is sometimes bad designed than the phone will recognize it as i computer USB. (if bad designed than the phone takes only low current even if the charger is able to supply more)
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Sometimes the radio uses more juice than the poor original 700mA charger can supply.
Causing a lot of heat to build up on the battery.
No,i dont charge through usb guys
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Sometimes the radio uses more juice than the poor original 700mA charger can supply.
Causing a lot of heat to build up on the battery.
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Not glad to hear that. I have never (only 2+months with X10) observed a problem with the original charger while using the phone (playing, GPS or wifi). Sometimes a bit warmer, which I consider to be common.
In general is the reason the same. The phone requests more then the charger supply
I think it's a software issue.
The bluetooth used to eat away at the battery but BB.67 sorted that out.
Wifi never was a problem for me.
But the GSM Radio is a absolute battery PIG.
It's using so much juice it's scary.
I hope SE sorts out all the ****.
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I think it's a software issue.
The bluetooth used to eat away at the battery but BB.67 sorted that out.
Wifi never was a problem for me.
But the GSM Radio is a absolute battery PIG.
It's using so much juice it's scary.
I hope SE sorts out all the ****.
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Well it is probably also related to the signal level..? I use BB 58, never use BT. The GSM signal is almost full at home (while charge).
BTW: To charge the phone with the original charger takes tightly 1h for me. (from +/-30% to 100%) (not using the phone)
Mine's was not charging above 88%, but then I deleted batt. stat and it went to 98% and then 97% and then again to 100% then I used an app called Battery Calibrator and everything is fine now.
Depends what game your playing. Pocket legends with screen and volume on full, wifi connected, overclocked and set performance etc etc I can use a fully charged battery plugged in and drain it in 2hours. Its just supply and demand, the charger can't keep up.
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isthisreallife said:
No,i dont charge through usb guys
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You say the battery depletes whilst charging and using barnacle, but u also say ur not charging via usb. Something not adding up jere.
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Has anyone smelt the charging circuit of X10 or the Battery when its around 40 C? It smells like something is burning....phone doesn't has any problem, but I just smelt the charging point and battery and its normal?
ankur3467 said:
Has anyone smelt the charging circuit of X10 or the Battery when its around 40 C? It smells like something is burning....phone doesn't has any problem, but I just smelt the charging point and battery and its normal?
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Nope it's not healthy at all.
It's a massive problem as it's causing severe wear on the device.
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Nope it's not healthy at all.
It's a massive problem as it's causing severe wear on the device.
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you mean to say there should not be any smell from the battery? I think it's normal to have electronic smell becoz otherwise my phone is working fine, no problem at all.
ankur3467 said:
you mean to say there should not be any smell from the battery? I think it's normal to have electronic smell becoz otherwise my phone is working fine, no problem at all.
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Dude last time i checked any sort of burning smell coming from a electronic device is bad.
I had the same smell with my old board and that board failed.
shoby said:
You say the battery depletes whilst charging and using barnacle, but u also say ur not charging via usb. Something not adding up jere.
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I charge through mains( not usb) and this is happening on mains.
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I charge through mains( not usb) and this is happening on mains.
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Yeah.. it's not getting enough juice.
The GSM radio "heavy power eater" + wifi = no good.
I use battery doctor, which gives options to kill unwanted applications, monitor battery temperature, do full battery recharge cycles.
But also you need to turn off Wifi for battery save and keep u away from radiation
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I use battery doctor, which gives options to kill unwanted applications, monitor battery temperature, do full battery recharge cycles.
But also you need to turn off Wifi for battery save and keep u away from radiation
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That's not the point.
The hardware should be able to charge faster than it's using up the juice.
Apps running or not.
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Dude last time i checked any sort of burning smell coming from a electronic device is bad.
I had the same smell with my old board and that board failed.
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I checked again and I think its coming just from the battery.. those terminals. My battery never reached over 45 C and usually operates in 32-37 C and phone does not reboot at all by itself, may be I am just over cautious. Also, it is X10 HD (newer batch).
May be there is something wrong with the battery as I have flashed many roms in last few days and had deleted batt. stat everytime I flashed it. Enlighten me on this stuff. Should I undervolt and underclock CPU to avoid any damage to CPU?
I went back to the slow charger for overnight charging and battery life has been pretty darn good. When I use the fast charger it says it gets to 100 quickly but I feel it drops down way faster. Anyone else feel this way?
yeah, same happened with the note 4. I only use the fast charger when i need a quick charge. I use my old note galaxy tab s regular charger overnight.
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Yeah. Fast chargers are great (the one included with MXPE is superb) but they're not meant for overnight-leave-your-phone-on-the-charger-for-6-or-7-hours-while-you-sleep type charging. Technically, the less you leave your phone on ANY charger after it reaches 100% the better it is for your battery.
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Yeah. Fast chargers are great (the one included with MXPE is superb) but they're not meant for overnight-leave-your-phone-on-the-charger-for-6-or-7-hours-while-you-sleep type charging. Technically, the less you leave your phone on ANY charger after it reaches 100% the better it is for your battery.
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This used to be true, but I thought it's been debunked with current battery technology. Recent source anywhere?
No source... IMO. (And the fellow XDA members that replied to this thread)
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No source... IMO. (And the fellow XDA members that replied to this thread)
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He was asking for the source saying it is better to disconnect your phone once it gets 100% battery...
It's been proven it has no ill effect over time, and after charging to full it will stop charging until it discharges enough to need a trickle charge, at which point it will trickle back up to 100% and repeat the process.
If you have ever had a battery pack shut itself off after charging your phone to 100%, it's because it finished charging and didn't discharge quickly enough before the battery pack shut off.
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I never use my rapid/turbo/quick charger (or whatever it's called). I only use the regular old overnight charger. I get great battery life. I know for a fact that heat is bad for all electronic components including batteries as can be read about in numerous articles on the subject. However, I also wonder about rapid charging to 100% why would the charge not last as long? Unless something that is reading the battery capacity is not accurate when the battery has been rapidly charged?
I don't have any scientific evidence. I just find I get better battery life using the old charger and noticeably worse battery using the rapid charger
I use the rapid charger and the battery life is the same with or without it.
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Yeah. Fast chargers are great (the one included with MXPE is superb) but they're not meant for overnight-leave-your-phone-on-the-charger-for-6-or-7-hours-while-you-sleep type charging. Technically, the less you leave your phone on ANY charger after it reaches 100% the better it is for your battery.
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I agree with this, my phone was on 15% and I was about to fall asleep so I left it plugged in for about 9 hours, and it was almost dead with 2hrs SOT and 5 hours after being unplugged. But if I unplug it when it's at 80-90% it lasts me almost all day and into the night.
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I use the rapid charger and the battery life is the same with or without it.
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Same here. Rapid charge is awesome, and my battery life is very good as a business user.
I agree that fast charging is great for a temporary quick charge but not good using it to get your phone to 100%
Last night I've put my phone to charge until morning, and I've put the phone under a pillow because I have a one person bed and I don't want to hit it with my legs. In the morning, when I took the phone out....
The phone was extremely HOT! And I know where the parts are in this phone, and not the motherboard heatead up so much, the battery! I was so scared because this thing could explode in my hands or could've exploded last night.
Also, when I saw the phone the notification led was blinking blue, but after cooling the phone I couldn't see any notification. Is that a alert or something to say that your phone is hot?
I don't want to have a "note 7" clone when charging in my house.
I have this phone for just 6 months. Also the battery right now drops percent like per minute, really weak.
Does anyone had this problem too?
Here are screenshots:
Also, I am not using original charger because was too slow. I am using an 5V 2A charger. Now my battery stays at "normal" at 40C°
Is that normal?
XTutorials said:
Here are screenshots:
Also, I am not using original charger because was too slow. I am using an 5V 2A charger. Now my battery stays at "normal" at 40C°
Is that normal?
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I have found this in my manual. I will keep my eyes all day on my phone and will see if I will go to the service or not.
But I have bootloader unlocked, the phone was disassembled before, the water indicator is red, so I'm going to have to pay.
It happened to me. One thing I noticed that my phone was in wake lock. It never happened to me again. I think I was using LOS 14 at that time.
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It happened to me. One thing I noticed that my phone was in wake lock. It never happened to me again. I think I was using LOS 14 at that time.
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I am using persona78's B600 mod. I hope this thing doesn't happen to me again too.
XTutorials said:
I don't want to have a "note 7" clone when charging in my house.
Does anyone had this problem too?
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Every phone has heating problems. Few days ago i readed some articles and that stated: consumers should remove the custom cases when charging the phone. Do not keep your phone while charging on surfaces that stores heat (eg. your pillow), and try to not keep your phone on charge overnight. Even if its at 35-45% you should leave it so and wake up 30 min earlier every morning and charge again if you need more battery. 100% charge its not a good idea.
Remember you cant change battery easy, removing the back case its a pain, try to take care of your device, or you gonna buy a new phone soon
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Also, I am not using original charger because was too slow. I am using an 5V 2A charger. Now my battery stays at "normal" at 40C°
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Of course not......You are using 2A charger.....It would obviously heat your device up
and yes ......2 A charger won't help with speeding up charging it would burn your IC instead..Your phone won't take in more than 1 Amp thats a factory limit and can't be unlocked without a custom kernel but still it's not safe.. Don't use that charger .....It's a placeboo that it charges faster ?
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Of course not......You are using 2A charger.....It would obviously heat your device up
and yes ......2 A charger won't help with speeding up charging it would burn your IC instead..Your phone won't take in more than 1 Amp thats a factory limit and can't be unlocked without a custom kernel but still it's not safe.. Don't use that charger .....It's a placeboo that it charges faster ?
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What the ****, thanks. I will come back to the original charger.