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Android Nougat is officially released (See the Android website) :victory:
Since Honor didn't release (yet) the kernel source, let's hope when its released (SOOOOOOON PLZ) :fingers-crossed: it gets the proper treatment, a PURE stock-Android based on Nougat. Devs, if you hear me, we don't want marshmallow based ROM's :laugh:
PalakMi said:
Android Nougat is officially released (See the Android website) :victory:
Since Honor didn't release (yet) the kernel source, let's hope when its released (SOOOOOOON PLZ) :fingers-crossed: it gets the proper treatment, a PURE stock-Android based on Nougat. Devs, if you hear me, we don't want marshmallow based ROM's :laugh:
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Haha I am sure that will be something to look at depending on the release source and everything that comes with it to build a good PURE stock android based nougat
mgbotoe said:
Haha I am sure that will be something to look at depending on the release source and everything that comes with it to build a good PURE stock android based nougat
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We hope it will be done fast
Hello there
As the title tells you, i would like to have a clean OS for the Galaxy Tab A 7.0 (SM-T280)
With clean OS i mean a completely debloated rom without any extras. As slim as possible. Just a launcher and Core GApps (Playstore + Maps)
Maybe a debloated ROM or a debloation script. or a List of removeable Apps
I notices that the LTE version of the tablet, the SM-T285, allready got some non Touchwiz roms.
CM13 by Jedld and CM14.1 by Jedld
The best what could happen would be, if a developer from the T280 could make it compatible.
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SM-T280 Users: Unfortunately this rom would probably not work on it since the SM-T285 and SM-T280 have different kernels and slightly different hardware. I don't have access to this device so it would be hard for me to port it over. However I believe there are a lot of similiarities in the device tree that can be shared. If a dev with the SM-T280 is interested I can probably help.
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It would be great if someone could help
Greetings!
A month ago i inquired about the likeliness of a ROM for the 280. There was some work being done on it but unfortunately it stopped. As long as devs don't have the device, no work will be done for it. So unless we (requesters) bundle and buy a 280 for a dev (something unlikely to happen) we can only hope.
i want it to
Just orered this tab, was at special price, sad to hear this
I guess all we can do is root and debloat
russy23 said:
Just orered this tab, was at special price, sad to hear this
I guess all we can do is root and debloat
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it is not ruled out that there will be development for this tablet
Hi guys,
in the last few days I had a look at various type of "chinese smartwatches" mounting Android Lollipop 5.1. I'd like to buy one of them for curiosity and for trying to build some apps.
I have a question about the software: as they mount Android Lollipop and not Android wear, is there the possibility that they will be updated, I think to Android 6.0 or something like that? Or better, is there any Android wear custom ROM to flash on them? Thank you for your replies guys
Update info
The update to Android marshmallow would be possible but I do not think any manufacturer decides to do an update, the smartwatch come out with Android lollipop to recycle code and have greater compatibility with older apps.
In future it may be possible to have a custom rom with android wear but will be a long and not compatible with all Chinese devices, when I have not seen a single port on a smartwatch that runs Android 5.1
Will Mi A1 get project treble with oreo update?
what is that?
I hope YES...
mahla13 said:
what is that?
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The Android 8.0 release includes Project Treble, a major re-architect of the Android OS framework designed to make it easier, faster, and less costly for manufacturers to update devices to a new version of Android. Treble is for all new devices launching with Android 8.0 and beyond (the new architecture is already running on the Developer Preview for Pixel phones).Project Treble separates the vendor implementation (device-specific, lower-level software written by silicon manufacturers) from the Android OS framework via a new vendor interface.
In Android 7.x and earlier, no formal vendor interface exists so device makers must update large portions of the Android code to move a device to a newer version of Android.
But as far as I know project treble is only useful if they are using a custom UI like MIUI, Flyme or Touchwiz. Isn't it treble superfluous without a custom UI?
Localhorst86 said:
But as far as I know project treble is only useful if they are using a custom UI like MIUI, Flyme or Touchwiz. Isn't it treble superfluous without a custom UI?
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There are some little things, like Xiaomi's camera app. With treble Google could update the OS directly, and Xiaomi could update camera separately.
Am I right? It's more a question than an affirmation
Mendibil said:
There are some little things, like Xiaomi's camera app. With treble Google could update the OS directly, and Xiaomi could update camera separately.
Am I right? It's more a question than an affirmation
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I don't know. But I imagine Xiaomi could simply realease and update the camera app through the play store. Blackberry does this with it's core apps which can only be installed on blackberry devices.
Localhorst86 said:
I don't know. But I imagine Xiaomi could simply realease and update the camera app through the play store. Blackberry does this with it's core apps which can only be installed on blackberry devices.
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True. Motorola used to do the same (I don't know if actually does). Maybe Treble it's not that important for us, Android One users.
While Treble is focused on official Android OEMs, Project Treble should also be revolutionary for aftermarket Android ROM projects
https://www.xda-developers.com/why-current-oneplus-nokia-phones-wont-be-project-treble-certified/
We have /system/vendor....
But on the other hand, we have dual partitions, so maybe they dare to repartition. The beta will be out soon, so we will see.
More details about project treble https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/09/android-8-0-oreo-thoroughly-reviewed/2/#h1
so, any update about this as Beta is released in Mi a1. Did anyone find anything?
I can't find the link anymore, but I've had people test it on Oreo firmware and it was confirmed not to have Treble.
Unfortunately we will not
Until we don't get 4.4.x kernel, we won't get project Trebel. I've never seen a SD625 phone running the 4.4.x kernel so we should blame Qualcomm instead of Xiaomi (tested on a Moto G5 Plus).
Seeing as the first Android P Preview came out today, I'm wondering what (and how long) it would take to port it to Project Treble compatible devices.
Considering it is closed source, hard to say...
Though many people are on this.
phhusson said:
Considering it is closed source, hard to say...
Though many people are on this.
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Nice to know!
When the source code is usually released? With the official release of the new Android version? In this case we should wait September 2018 for android P...
Can't we just flash GSI of already released pixel images?
espireso said:
Can't we just flash GSI of already released pixel images?
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Released images are not GSI.
phhusson said:
Released images are not GSI.
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I've learned it from the hard way. I extracted system.img out of newly released pixel.zip. It didn't boot ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Considering it is closed source, hard to say...
Though many people are on this.
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does it always go open source only after all dp r released and stable is out?
zohaibahd said:
does it always go open source only after all dp r released and stable is out?
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Yes
I too have a question. what if the manufacturer no longer updates their device to android P but the device is trebled supported on Android O. will the devs still can update the device to android P and so on?
Because on not trebled enabled devices still getting the latest OS thru custom roms and powered also by snapdragon SoC.
If we gotta wait until the source is released then what's the point of project treble compared to the usual custom rom developement process ? Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't treble supposed to allow any device that got a vendor partition to boot any system partition regadless of the hardware used by the given device ?
If I'm not mistaken:
Treble allows for a generic system image to be used. The Android P developer previews are very likely not GSIs: they target a particular vendor configuration. (I wouldn't be surprised to find that they include an updated vendor partition to go along with them.)
A GSI doesn't target a particular device, it targets only the known services specified by a particular release of Android - an Android GSI could theoretically target any specified vendor interface, be it 8.0, 8.1, 9.0, or whatever future interface appears, or even multiple if someone wanted to put in the effort.
That doesn't get past the fact that there is no source for Android P yet, so a GSI can't really be built for it. And the vendor interface doesn't mean that any image will boot on any device - maybe one that depends on a strict subset of what's provided in the vendor interface on a particular device, but I wouldn't be able to grab a Pixel image and load it on a Galaxy S9 or Mate 10 Pro, or otherwise for any mix of devices. They all have dependencies on vendor-specific pieces in their vendor partition, at the very least; there's also /product, /oem, and /odm on the Mate 9, which is also depended upon by it's system.img. A GSI can't depend on the existence of those things, an OEM image can.
Maybe, with a fair bit of work, someone could rip apart the Pixel system image and make a GSI out of it, but P would probably be out before that made significant headway into making it a GSI.
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If I'm not mistaken:
Treble allows for a generic system image to be used. The Android P developer previews are very likely not GSIs: they target a particular vendor configuration. (I wouldn't be surprised to find that they include an updated vendor partition to go along with them.)
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Yup, vendor partition has been updated.
And all your explanation is correct
Are GSIs for future versions of Android going to be released by Google or some other official entity? I thought this was the whole point of Project Treble :|
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Are GSIs for future versions of Android going to be released by Google or some other official entity? I thought this was the whole point of Project Treble :|
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Google does make GSIs available to oems for testing (cts/vts) -- you can find evidence of this in the android-vts google group. I suppose they could make those publicly available, but if they are just stock aosp (with no google apps) they probably don't want to do that yet.
GSIs are a nice outcome of Treble, but that wasn't the main goal.
There is a really good podcast discussing what Treble is over at Android Developers Backstage (episode 75).
Yall need to seriously learn to chill out and enjoy what you have for a second, for real. The P preview is exactly what it is and has always been...a PREVIEW. Just like before when it was only available to nexus devices, it's the same for pixel. Plus, it's highly unstable and buggy as hell right now, and like most previews before this one, a lot of the features will be removed and more added in as time goes.
And to answer your question, ge-n, about what the difference is, it's not an instant invitation to see what Google releases as a preview. For us, our greatest advantage is if you're running a S9 per say (bloated to hell and grossified by their "Samsung experience" aka former TouchWiz) you can get a more stock version if you'd like.
It seems like there's been some movement on this...
How long will we get Stable Treble rom?
MAH35H said:
How long will we get Stable Treble rom?
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As long as it takes you to develop one.
Will be interesting to see how the P beta program is distributed since it's a lot of treble devices that's getting it now!