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S5 lollipop... Memory leak

Okay, so I've been running the official polish lollipop rom on my UK O2 phone for about three weeks now, and I've noticed sometimes when pressing the home button it takes ages to redraw the icons on the home screen, it's started FCing apps and reset itself today once and yesterday once.
I also swiped away all the apps open earlier, and when I went back in they were all back there again.
It's totally stock, no launcher even.
I cleared my cache yesterday and it had no effect.
Anybody else having behaviour like this?

Robsa said:
Okay, so I've been running the official polish lollipop rom on my UK O2 phone for about three weeks now, and I've noticed sometimes when pressing the home button it takes ages to redraw the icons on the home screen, it's started FCing apps and reset itself today once and yesterday once.
I also swiped away all the apps open earlier, and when I went back in they were all back there again.
It's totally stock, no launcher even.
I cleared my cache yesterday and it had no effect.
Anybody else having behaviour like this?
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maybe do a reflash, regard's

Its a known problem, should ben fixed on Android 5.1 by Google

Sock12345 said:
Its a known problem, should ben fixed on Android 5.1 by Google
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agreed but i have seen a preview of 5.1 and it has a few issues aswel,but hopefully it's sorted by time we get it on galaxy s5,regard's.

Robsa said:
Okay, so I've been running the official polish lollipop rom on my UK O2 phone for about three weeks now, and I've noticed sometimes when pressing the home button it takes ages to redraw the icons on the home screen, it's started FCing apps and reset itself today once and yesterday once.
I also swiped away all the apps open earlier, and when I went back in they were all back there again.
It's totally stock, no launcher even.
I cleared my cache yesterday and it had no effect.
Anybody else having behaviour like this?
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everyone i think, lollipop 5.0 had a memeroy leak bug in it thatll be fixed in 5.0.3

Cheers chaps, downloading Spanish and will flash that. Sounds like it might be unavoidable though ?

joecool666 said:
agreed but i have seen a preview of 5.1 and it has a few issues aswel,but hopefully it's sorted by time we get it on galaxy s5,regard's.
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New builds always have buggs or glitches same for games new phone etc etc

Sock12345 said:
New builds always have buggs or glitches same for games new phone etc etc
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yeah i know i have being saying that for week's now . just like on my nexus 5.regard's.

issue still
joecool666 said:
maybe do a reflash, regard's
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reflash does not solve issue i have also ram issue specially with facebook application strange:crying:

App crashing problems

TBH I don't know what the hell happened to my phone one day I picked up my phone and EVERY SINGLE APP I open just lasts for a minuet and crashes for no reason!? even my keyboard my TouchWiz launcher EVERYTHING!! I think the problem from this app: (Android WebView) because someone who have the same phone have this very same problem.
One more thing the screen is doing weird things too?!
Anyone who knows what the hell is happening to my phone please let me know what to do.
PS: It's a stock Note 4 running Android 5.0.1 lollipop not rooted N910C Exynos variant.
Thanks in advance!
Sent from my Note 4

Have you tried doing a factory reset, that would probably help...

Ashatar said:
Have you tried doing a factory reset, that would probably help...
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Actually after posting this I did a factory reset but just after updating several apps the problem came again.

One thing that I noticed that when I leave the screen without touching it the app stays just fine like YouTube watching movies and like that but when I start browsing and scrolling the app crash... WTF?!

midopicanto said:
One thing that I noticed that when I leave the screen without touching it the app stays just fine like YouTube watching movies and like that but when I start browsing and scrolling the app crash... WTF?!
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That is kinda odd really....maybe flashing a different firmware would help.I haven't really experienced app crashing like that...

Ashatar said:
That is kinda odd really....maybe flashing a different firmware would help.I haven't really experienced app crashing like that...
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Thanks for your time man!
Yeah that's really what bothers me a lot!
I cleared the cache but it helped for a few hours and came back again but now I force-stopped that app and then unstalled the updates then disabled it, Now I don't have any problems "for now" but I think that app really missed up my screen because the screen before disabling it was giving weird colors... anyway I really hope that it'll never encounter me again! My phone was literally unusable!

anyone else experiencing freezing lately?

This is my second Ph-1 and it is starting to freeze multiple times a day. I read the previous post regarding Nova causing these issues, I am using the stock browser and so far, so smooth. I really dislike all the "whiteness" of stock and the lack of customization.. but it is worth it for a smooth experience.

twflys said:
This is my second Ph-1 and it is starting to freeze multiple times a day. I read the previous post regarding Nova causing these issues, I am using the stock browser and so far, so smooth. I really dislike all the "whiteness" of stock and the lack of customization.. but it is worth it for a smooth experience.
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Side loaded any apps?

I've experienced this issue lately. Yes I am using Nova as my daily driver. I just restarted the phone and issue went away. Hopefully it stays away. If it pops up again I'll report back.

I've had my phone for about a month now. I have had Nova loaded since day one but just recently have experienced the freezing and reboots. It is very random for sure. I may try a run without Nova if it happens much more.

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Nope, nothing sideloaded...

I am using Pixel 2 launcher for over a month and I like it.

I've had crashing on Beta 2 quite a bit with Nova. OTAing to Beta 3 reduces the crashes to once a week using Nova, which is pretty okay.
It's usually when I try to unlock the phone or am in the middle of doing something that everything just times out and reboots :s

Still on nought and have noticed bout the past week or so have had 2 freez ups. I'm using nova also. Rooted with magisk and viper and a batt mod.

twflys said:
This is my second Ph-1 and it is starting to freeze multiple times a day. I read the previous post regarding Nova causing these issues, I am using the stock browser and so far, so smooth. I really dislike all the "whiteness" of stock and the lack of customization.. but it is worth it for a smooth experience.
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Wow... I've had my Ph1 for over a month, running Nova.(not rooted, don't feel the need to) .. and I've had no issues at all... I'll admit I can recall a few hiccups (nothing major) when I first received it, but after all the updates, mine is running top notch... I understand that this phone had a rough launch... and a butt load of updates... But I honestly can't complain about my experience....

Well I made it almost 8 days this time before it restarted on its own while sitting on my desk. I usually like to reboot my phones every so often but I wanted to see how long it would go this time. DARN lol!!!

qwahchees said:
I've had crashing on Beta 2 quite a bit with Nova. OTAing to Beta 3 reduces the crashes to once a week using Nova, which is pretty okay.
It's usually when I try to unlock the phone or am in the middle of doing something that everything just times out and reboots :s
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Oreo beta 3 crashing often for me. Nova printer has been my launcher for a long time. Will try to uninstall it and run another launcher to see if that helps.

rootnooby said:
Oreo beta 3 crashing often for me. Nova printer has been my launcher for a long time. Will try to uninstall it and run another launcher to see if that helps.
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Tried Apex launcher and pixel launcher. No real difference. Phone is difficult to unlock. Takes a long time. System UI crashed. Oreo beta 3 seems overall buggy for me.
Is there a way to troubleshoot whether or not I could be having a hardware issue as opposed to a software issue?

rootnooby said:
Tried Apex launcher and pixel launcher. No real difference. Phone is difficult to unlock. Takes a long time. System UI crashed. Oreo beta 3 seems overall buggy for me.
Is there a way to troubleshoot whether or not I could be having a hardware issue as opposed to a software issue?
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Have you tried to factory reset and see how it acts? I have had no issues like that with OB3.

Warlord721 said:
Have you tried to factory reset and see how it acts? I have had no issues like that with OB3.
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I've seen temporary freezes, like a 1-2 second delay but they're pretty rare. Not sure what some others are labeling a freeze. Does that mean 10 seconds, a minute, they need to reboot?

Jank4AU said:
I've seen temporary freezes, like a 1-2 second delay but they're pretty rare. Not sure what some others are labeling a freeze. Does that mean 10 seconds, a minute, they need to reboot?
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I've tried a factory reset and that didn't seem to resolve the problem at all. In fact, it seems like unlocking got slower after the reset. The only things outside the box I am doing is using the Google camera app, running an app called layout to hide the navigation keys, and running an ADB command that makes the screen slightly larger by moving the top parameters of the screen up closer to the notch at the top of the phone. I guess I can do another factory reset, restore my applications, but don't install Google Camera or make any adjustments to hide navigation keys or change screen size.
I may do that, or just wait for the official release of Oreo which I hope is soon!
If anything here sounds like a hardware issue, I would appreciate your thoughts. Thank you.

rootnooby said:
I've tried a factory reset and that didn't seem to resolve the problem at all. In fact, it seems like unlocking got slower after the reset. The only things outside the box I am doing is using the Google camera app, running an app called layout to hide the navigation keys, and running an ADB command that makes the screen slightly larger by moving the top parameters of the screen up closer to the notch at the top of the phone. I guess I can do another factory reset, restore my applications, but don't install Google Camera or make any adjustments to hide navigation keys or change screen size.
I may do that, or just wait for the official release of Oreo which I hope is soon!
If anything here sounds like a hardware issue, I would appreciate your thoughts. Thank you.
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But what kind of freezes are you getting? Is it more like brief lag or a complete freeze? If so, what's the duration?

Jank4AU said:
But what kind of freezes are you getting? Is it more like brief lag our a complete freeze? If so, what's the duration?
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For example, when the phone has been sitting a few minutes I pick it up, touch the fingerprint sensor and get no feedback. The phone seems dead. I push the power button and nothing happens. I can do this several more times and then the phone may, or may not open. When it is working smoothly, I tapped the fingerprint sensor quickly and hear the"click" sound immediately. About 50% of the time this does not happen. If I had to estimate the amount of time it freezes or lags, it is certainly in excess of 10 seconds.
Many times I am forced to hold the power button down until it reboots.
In other cases, I may be in the middle of using the phone, it will start to lag and freeze, and then automatically reboot itself.

rootnooby said:
For example, when the phone has been sitting a few minutes I pick it up, touch the fingerprint sensor and get no feedback. The phone seems dead. I push the power button and nothing happens. I can do this several more times and then the phone may, or may not open. When it is working smoothly, I tapped the fingerprint sensor quickly and hear the"click" sound immediately. About 50% of the time this does not happen. If I had to estimate the amount of time it freezes or lags, it is certainly in excess of 10 seconds.
Many times I am forced to hold the power button down until it reboots.
In other cases, I may be in the middle of using the phone, it will start to lag and freeze, and then automatically reboot itself.
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I'm on the beta 3 release and I'm not experiencing that at all. Fingerprint unlocks in under 1 seconds almost every time. You may want to try a clean install without your other "enhancements". Personally, I'd do that just to get some stability and/or reliability. That may also save you time once the 8.1 beta drops because if you can determine that's the culprit, you'll know not to install that stuff on the next beta.
Honestly, as finicky as this phone has been for some users, I wouldn't install anything other than normal apps from the Play Store. I'm really holding off on rooting until the 8.1 beta drops so I can still get the ota as soon as it's released. Then I'll start playing with custom ROM's, etc.
I've only had this for about a week, coming from a Pixel. Flashing that phone was the worst experience of my life, looking forward to trying it here.

Jank4AU said:
I'm on the beta 3 release and I'm not experiencing that at all. Fingerprint unlocks in under 1 seconds almost every time. You may want to try a clean install without your other "enhancements". Personally, I'd do that just to get some stability and/or reliability. That may also save you time once the 8.1 beta drops because if you can determine that's the culprit, you'll know not to install that stuff on the next beta.
Honestly, as finicky as this phone has been for some users, I wouldn't install anything other than normal apps from the Play Store. I'm really holding off on rooting until the 8.1 beta drops so I can still get the ota as soon as it's released. Then I'll start playing with custom ROM's, etc.
I've only had this for about a week, coming from a Pixel. Flashing that phone was the worst experience of my life, looking forward to trying it here.
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Thanks. Good points. I'll take your advice and clean flash.

The phone is less than 6 months old, getting hard freezes. requires restart by holding power and vol down.
Happens almost everyday while watching youtube and trying to switch to any other application.

After the New Update Exynos Model (BUGS)

Hello Guys,
I am from India, I got the latest update attached screenshot.
I am facing few issues:-
The phone has become laggy in some departments such as:
1. The fingerprint mark stays on the screen after the screen unlocks.
2. Even after pressing the power button screen doesn't lock. The screen does black out but when I double tab on the screen it directly takes me to the home screen without showing the lockscree first. I am not using Google trusted location or devices to unlock without taking my fingerprint or face recognition.
3. When I try to dial a number it doesn't call at a single go, after pressing multiple times it calls the person whom I am trying to call. It looks very choppy as if the system responding to my commands little later.
4. Whenever I am trying to take the screenshot it doesn't take at a single go, after pressing multiple times the system recognises I am trying to take the screenshot and respond little later.
All the apps are working fine without any lags but the above said things are bothering me a lot.
I hope someone from XDA can assist me with this.
P.S.: I have tried to clear the cache from the boot screen. Also did a test on graphics from the same menu.
****Update v1****
I have got something to support my comments!
https://www.sammobile.com/2019/05/27/latest-galaxy-s10-update-has-some-serious-bugs/amp/
*****Update v2****
Switch off your WiFi, your phone will start behaving normal you will not face this problem in Mobile data usage.
Credit goes to @Whiskey103

None of these problems here. All that tested and works fine. Phone is super fast after update. Oh and i didnt format the phone after update

klemen241 said:
None of these problems here. All that tested and works fine. Phone is super fast after update
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Thanks for your reply! I hope somebody facing similar problems has overcome and provide suggestions.
But Sammobile blog has also confirmed these issues.

II havent faced any of these issues post update.
Did you try doing a factory reset? If not, try the same if its not too much of an issue for you.

I have the same but I updated today over mobile data.
Came home and it started to behave like described above.
So I figured it is something with the updated WiFi drivers.
Switched off Wi-Fi and all seems fine now.

shuvadeep said:
II havent faced any of these issues post update.
Did you try doing a factory reset? If not, try the same if its not too much of an issue for you.
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No I didn't do factory reset as I have checked from other forums that factory reset is not helping, the new update is broken.

Whiskey103 said:
I have the same but I updated today over mobile data.
Came home and it started to behave like described above.
So I figured it is something with the updated WiFi drivers.
Switched off Wi-Fi and all seems fine now.
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Wow let me try this, shall update you soon.

Whiskey103 said:
I have the same but I updated today over mobile data.
Came home and it started to behave like described above.
So I figured it is something with the updated WiFi drivers.
Switched off Wi-Fi and all seems fine now.
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Wow let me try this, shall update you soon.
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Yes this trick is working.
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Also one more question I don't know if it's my phone or everyone is facing this issue. Whenever I switch on VoLTE calls (Screenshot Attached) my phone temperature increases and battery drains.

Nitin5556 said:
No I didn't do factory reset as I have checked from other forums that factory reset is not helping, the new update is broken.
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Not true, its a good update and everything butterysmooth here. Did factory reset after the update though because of the size of the update.

gee2012 said:
Not true, its a good update and everything butterysmooth here. Did factory reset after the update though because of the size of the update.
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Everyone is not facing this issue, some of them are facing!
Are you using data over WiFi or Mobile data?

Nitin5556 said:
Hello Guys,
I am from India, I got the latest update attached screenshot.
I am facing few issues:-
The phone has become laggy in some departments such as:
1. The fingerprint mark stays on the screen after the screen unlocks.
2. Even after pressing the power button screen doesn't lock. The screen does black out but when I double tab on the screen it directly takes me to the home screen without showing the lockscree first. I am not using Google trusted location or devices to unlock without taking my fingerprint or face recognition.
3. When I try to dial a number it doesn't call at a single go, after pressing multiple times it calls the person whom I am trying to call. It looks very choppy as if the system responding to my commands little later.
4. Whenever I am trying to take the screenshot it doesn't take at a single go, after pressing multiple times the system recognises I am trying to take the screenshot and respond little later.
All the apps are working fine without any lags but the above said things are bothering me a lot.
I hope someone from XDA can assist me with this.
P.S.: I have tried to clear the cache from the boot screen. Also did a test on graphics from the same menu.
****Update v1****
I have got something to support my comments!
https://www.sammobile.com/2019/05/27/latest-galaxy-s10-update-has-some-serious-bugs/amp/
*****Update v2****
Switch off your WiFi, your phone will start behaving normal you will not face this problem in Mobile data usage.
Credit goes to @Whiskey103
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Mine fingerprints stopped all together..Started to get error that something is wrong with sensor..Went to service centre..they downgraded to april..they conf that some issue in may update..Hope samsung fixes asap..

cbotadra said:
Mine fingerprints stopped all together..Started to get error that something is wrong with sensor..Went to service centre..they downgraded to april..they conf that some issue in may update..Hope samsung fixes asap..
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Yes the problem is there in the May update.
Samsung should do something about this.

Nitin5556 said:
Everyone is not facing this issue, some of them are facing!
Are you using data over WiFi or Mobile data?
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Both, but i flashed the rom with Odin. I don`t realy like OTA`s tbh.

gee2012 said:
Both, but i flashed the rom with Odin. I don`t realy like OTA`s tbh.
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So, you're saying only the ppl that took the OTA are facing the issues? In that case i will probably try that then if the bug returns for me.
For now after switching WiFi On/Off for me it is gone.
Seen reports that plugging in the charger does the same.
Weird stuff indeed.
Also now i see a fellow Dutch, you by any change using Rabobank stuff (Wallet/App) with tripped KNOX and have no problems with it?
#sorryforofftopic

Whiskey103 said:
So, you're saying only the ppl that took the OTA are facing the issues? In that case i will probably try that then if the bug returns for me.
For now after switching WiFi On/Off for me it is gone.
Seen reports that plugging in the charger does the same.
Weird stuff indeed.
Also now i see a fellow Dutch, you by any change using Rabobank stuff (Wallet/App) with tripped KNOX and have no problems with it?
#sorryforofftopic
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No, its possible that some users who do flash a rom with Odin could face some issues too but i personally don`t. I`am using the ABN bank app and i haven`t rooted for a long time now. I used to do it because of theming and getting updates/upgrades but nowadays i personaly don`t see a reason anymore to root anymore. So i can`t help you with your question.

I happened to flash "ASE5" build two ways :
1. First using ODIN 2 days back . Did a factory reset ,erased cache in recovery, reinstalled all apps & after setting them up:-
issues faced -> None.
2. Went back to previous "ASD5" build, downloaded the "ASE5 OTA" update and installed. Did a factory reset, erased cache in recovery, reinstalled all apps & after setting them up:-
issues faced so far -> None.
*One glitch I'm noticing from the beginning with "ASE5" :
When I click on my apps & games(playstore app>drop down menu on the left), it freezes for a split second while it takes into the main page. With all my effort, I could not fix it. (App cache cleaning only temporarily fixes this).

Virgo_Guy said:
I happened to flash "ASE5" build two ways :
1. First using ODIN 2 days back . Did a factory reset ,erased cache in recovery, reinstalled all apps & after setting them up:-
issues faced -> None.
2. Went back to previous "ASD5" build, downloaded the "ASE5 OTA" update and installed. Did a factory reset, erased cache in recovery, reinstalled all apps & after setting them up:-
issues faced so far -> None.
*One glitch I'm noticing from the beginning with "ASE5" :
When I click on my apps & games(playstore app>drop down menu on the left), it freezes for a split second while it takes into the main page. With all my effort, I could not fix it. (App cache cleaning only temporarily fixes this).
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A split second delay bothers you? What apps are running in the background? Do you have the FaceBook app installed? How did you set your animations?

gee2012 said:
A split second delay bothers you? What apps are running in the background? Do you have the FaceBook app installed? How did you set your animations?
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No it does not "bother"but is a step back in smoothness if that counts. It's a "difference" that I noticed since I was testing both builds back and forth for a comparison. Rest be assured that it's not related to apps installed and animations set.

Virgo_Guy said:
No it does not "bother"but is a step back in smoothness if that counts. It's a "difference" that I noticed since I was testing both builds back and forth for a comparison. Rest be assured that it's not related to apps installed and animations set.
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I have my animations set to 1,0 and i don`t have a delay, on 0,5 however there is a slight delay.

gee2012 said:
I have my animations set to 1,0 and i don`t have a delay, on 0,5 however there is a slight delay.
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Erase playstore cache and you won't even notice it for a while only to re-appear after sometime.
"Less noticiable" and "very much noticiable" in my usage in 1x & .5x respectively. In ASD5 build, this transition slips like a soap.

android 10 jitters after update

Ever since I got android 10 my phone gets these random jitters from time to time. Also I noticed whenever I'm in an app and I close to go back to my home screen the home screen refreshes (using nova) I don't ever recall having these issues on pie. It just seems really buggy. I never got to try the beta's since my country didn't have the program.

How did you install the update, OTA, sideload, SmartSwitch?

The Root said:
How did you install the update, OTA, sideload, SmartSwitch?
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OTA

orlans21 said:
OTA
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Try reinstalling with SmartSwitch.

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Try reinstalling with SmartSwitch.
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I really don't want to wipe. I put so much time into customizing everything the way i want it

Mine hasn't been hitting at all, however sometimes when I pull my notification shade down and then expand a notification it freezes. I'm almost ready to do a factory reset to see if that fixes it
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I also noticed that the ram management has been horrible. I notice this after the phone has been rebooted and it's several hours later. Never was like that on pie

If you backup, it takes like 10 minutes to factory reset and restore. You could be done by now...

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If you backup, it takes like 10 minutes to factory reset and restore. You could be done by now...
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It's not just about backing up apps, it's setting them all up the way you want them

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It's not just about backing up apps, it's setting them all up the way you want them
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You'd also be done with that by now. Lol

The Root said:
You'd also be done with that by now. Lol
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It would take me over an hour to set everything back up

The Root said:
You'd also be done with that by now. Lol
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Don't "lol" as you've clearly never backed up & restored on nonrooted Android or via Samsung SmartSwitch.. They don't cover everything, by a mile.
Not sure why you you think it's okay around here to recommend something you don't understand. People are looking for help, not uniformed smugness.

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It would take me over an hour to set everything back up
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But everything would work.

Has anyone else experienced anything similar to what my thread is about?

portzblitz said:
Don't "lol" as you've clearly never backed up & restored on nonrooted Android or via Samsung SmartSwitch.. They don't cover everything, by a mile.
Not sure why you you think it's okay around here to recommend something you don't understand. People are looking for help, not uniformed smugness.
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I did it not to long ago, enjoy your bugs.

I have jitters and stutters within both Samsung and Gmail apps. I also get freezing when I pull down my notification shade and try to expand Gmail notifications. The latter happens about 80%of the time where as email jitter and stutters are constant. I have factory reset twice without restoring from any backups.
This did not do this in PIE.
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Same here. Horrible ram management, random freezes. Samsung is definitely rushing to release the "stable" version of the android 10.
Not quite sure why people still believes doing a factory reset can fix everything.

For me scrolling in any internet browser is choppy.

Yeah so it seems they released this update too early and it's still feeling like a beta. I'll probably wait til January patch comes out and see if they fixed it

Am also experiencing the same random jitters this thread is talking about. I updated to Android 10 (BSKO) the day it became available to Greece (EUR, December 9th) on my S10+ (SM-G975F). Am holding up till January update before resetting and possibly downgrading, first versions of Android OSes suck in general anyway. Bit of advice, if your S10 is having a "lag attack" on Android 10, do not, under no circumstances open the camera. Touch input will freeze up and camera will just show a laggy feed of what's going on for about 5-7 minutes before unlagging and forcing a reboot.