This phone is so sluggish. Is it normal? - Samsung Galaxy Note FE Questions & Answers

I've always used samsung phones since I had an S4. I stuck to the Note series from the Note 4 and up. I got the Note7 and for the limited time I had it, it was amazing. Best phone ever until I had it taken away from me.
Since then I had my Note5 for a while and then I got a oneplus 5t. I've had the 5t for ages and it's also incredible but I missed the hardware buttons, spen and 16:9 display. The 5t camera sucks too.
I got the Note FE a few days back and I've been using it since. But, it's so damn sluggish. The 5t is 100x snappier. And I'm not talking animation delay or anything. Everything about the Note FE is slow. As much as I like the camera and spen I'm tempted to ditch Samsung for good. I don't want to though.
Is there any custom roms or anything I can do to speed it up?
My FE is stock, with some bloatware disabled. It's not slow from any sort of malicious software or apps running in the background.
Thoughts?

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Is the Note 4 the right phone for me? (last minute advice before I purchase)

Can anybody give me any last-minute advice before I sell my iPhone 6 Plus for a Galaxy Note 4?
I'm not looking for any iOS vs Android arguments, but after switching between iOS and Android, I seem to prefer Android much more.
However, I want an Android phone with a top-notch camera and it seems like the Note 4 has the best (?) camera available. I have two little kids and often don't take my camera with me, so I want a phone with a very good camera and excellent video capability as well. (I probably take slightly more videos than I do pictures)
I also want something at least 5" or larger. I'm mostly used to the "large" iPhone 6 Plus size, so I don't think the Note 4 will be a problem.
My top phones I'm deciding between are: Note 4, OnePlus One, LG G3, Sony Xperia Z3, Galaxy S5, Moto X.
Price isn't a concern because I'll be selling my iPhone 6 Plus to recoup the costs.
EDIT: I am a little concerned about the higher resolution on the Note 4 slowing down some light gaming, or having scaling issues with games, etc...
I actually just switched from a 6 Plus to a Note 4 in the past two weeks and I havent really regretted doing so. I have also owned the OPO, G3, and S5 and to my liking the Note 4 overpowers all. Note 4 takes wonderful pictures as you already with OIS as well as great videos. Since I have had the device I haven't snapped a lot of videos but I know there wouldn't be an issue in that category when it comes down to it.
As for slowing down when you are gaming, idk much about that since I do zero gaming on my device. You going from the 6 Plus to the Note 4 will be a breeze since the Note 4 is easier to hold in hands, despite people saying that the edges are sharp on the Note but that doesnt affect me since I run a case on my Note 4.
If you are taking lots of videos and pictures then having that external memory is a plus already. I am running an 128GB sd card in my device which I know is overkill but its there if I need it. I can also store a few 4k videos up there if I really wanted to. I don't think you will be dissapointed with the switch to the Note 4. Yeah it was a stretch coming from how smooth iOS is and then going back to bloaty Touchwiz but TW has been optimized a little more and with a few tweaks it can be very smooth, I say hit some comparison videos up on YouTube and then make the decision.
Thanks so much for the information!
I'm still doing research, and is it true that the AT&T version has it's bootloader unlocked, but the T-Mobile is unlocked?
I'd like to stay with AT&T, so would there be a problem purchasing the T-Mobile version and activating it on AT&T?
Unfortunately one of the applications I use (ARUnchained) requires root access so I do want an Android phone that can be rooted...
I am also on the edge of buying note 4. I am actually using z3 right now and the reason I would be switching is the camera. It is not so good as it looks on the paper and the only reason why I would be changing.
Everything else I like a lot and I actually don't like Samsung as a brand and almost hate touchwiz so the change is not easy..
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Yes! Just go for the note 4 mate that is a top notch android phone.. With a good built quality, camera are also good specially on outdoors but comparing in low light shot iphone camera is still on the top. Battery are great now with fast charging and ultrapower saving mode.. A lot of features and customization (cuz android) also the spen!
And those beautifully 2k display man you can never go wrong
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sofakng said:
Thanks so much for the information!
I'm still doing research, and is it true that the AT&T version has it's bootloader unlocked, but the T-Mobile is unlocked?
I'd like to stay with AT&T, so would there be a problem purchasing the T-Mobile version and activating it on AT&T?
Unfortunately one of the applications I use (ARUnchained) requires root access so I do want an Android phone that can be rooted...
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Yeah the AT&T version right not cant be rooted but I have been following a few threads where people are working on it now but there is not ETA as to where the AT&T version will be rooted, I am also desperately needing root. I think there is also a thread where people are using AT&T service on a T-Mobile phone but there are some disadvantages I think, There should be a thread in the AT&T Note 4 section with all those concerns. But the T-Mobile version can be rooted. If you want a rooted phone and also great quality all around, I would say my next option would be the G3. Very easy to root and also has a great camera. I just couldn't get with LG interface over Android.
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I am also on the edge of buying note 4. I am actually using z3 right now and the reason I would be switching is the camera. It is not so good as it looks on the paper and the only reason why I would be changing.
Everything else I like a lot and I actually don't like Samsung as a brand and almost hate touchwiz so the change is not easy..
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Yeah Touchwiz is what it is at this point. I also hate it with a passion but like I said with a few tweaks and I run Nova Launcher, it can be very smooth and right now I have no complaints. I cant speak of the Sony Z series as that is one series I have not yet played with or owned yet.
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Markpuge said:
Yes! Just go for the note 4 mate that is a top notch android phone.. With a good built quality, camera are also good specially on outdoors but comparing in low light shot iphone camera is still on the top. Battery are great now with fast charging and ultrapower saving mode.. A lot of features and customization (cuz android) also the spen!
And those beautifully 2k display man you can never go wrong
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You are correct my friend, Even though in the beginning I was leery to switch away from the 6 Plus that was a great phone for me, The Note 4 just has too many features to pass up!
Gaming is good for me using my exynos variant
I switched to the Note 4 (Exynos) coming from an OPO. I wouldn't recommend the OPO since it has serious QA issues. My unit had this awful touchscreen issue which rendered the screen unusable when it got too hot. And it's a PITA to RMA it AFAIK.
I'm really liking the Note 4 a lot. Coming from stock or close to stock Android (I owned a Nexus 4 and 5 before the OPO), TouchWiz doesn't feel nearly as bloated as before. Everything is smooth and performance in games is top notch.
It feels great in the hand, the S Pen is quite handy, the screen is absolutely fantastic, the camera is great... My only complaint would be the rear facing speaker.
Samsung really won me over with the Note 4. Glad I picked this one up instead of the Nexus 6.
sofakng said:
Can anybody give me any last-minute advice before I sell my iPhone 6 Plus for a Galaxy Note 4?
I'm not looking for any iOS vs Android arguments, but after switching between iOS and Android, I seem to prefer Android much more.
However, I want an Android phone with a top-notch camera and it seems like the Note 4 has the best (?) camera available. I have two little kids and often don't take my camera with me, so I want a phone with a very good camera and excellent video capability as well. (I probably take slightly more videos than I do pictures)
I also want something at least 5" or larger. I'm mostly used to the "large" iPhone 6 Plus size, so I don't think the Note 4 will be a problem.
My top phones I'm deciding between are: Note 4, OnePlus One, LG G3, Sony Xperia Z3, Galaxy S5, Moto X.
Price isn't a concern because I'll be selling my iPhone 6 Plus to recoup the costs.
EDIT: I am a little concerned about the higher resolution on the Note 4 slowing down some light gaming, or having scaling issues with games, etc...
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Simply put it's just the best device on the market right now. Nothing comes close to it. Go for it, you won't regret it like you did the iPhone
after deciding that the note series is the best phablet, you still have to choose between
Exynos Note4, Snapdragon Note4 or Note Edge
after using exynos note4 for sometime, I am considering switching to note edge for the cool curved screen. The feeling of curved glass on thumb is amazing.
I would suggest a in store hands on with the Note Edge first, than go read the exynos vs snapdragon thread on the note 4 if you dont like the Edge.
good luck
I bought The note 4 after long times of researching and I absloutely love it. I own The 6 plus as Well but I like The Note 4 more. I like carrying both operating systems in my pocket. I use the Note for work and taking pics and use 6 plus For chatting and connecting with friends
If you want to use the Gear VR - only Snapdragon runs smooth because of the better GPU

Should I buy a S6?

So I guess some of you got a S6 by now so that is why I thought I should ask if you miss any of the features the Note 4 has or better put, what advantages you feel you got by running the S6 as a daily phone.
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So I guess some of you got a S6 by now so that is why I thought I should ask if you miss any of the features the Note 4 has or better put, what advantages you feel you got by running the S6 as a daily phone.
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Yes, you should
Yep, go ahead...
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So I guess some of you got a S6 by now so that is why I thought I should ask if you miss any of the features the Note 4 has or better put, what advantages you feel you got by running the S6 as a daily phone.
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Aiiie!
You'd best get used to running around with a charger!
i tried the down-switch, it doesn't work. It's no faster than the Note 4, the pictures are no better, you can't save work to an sdCard and just carry the sdCard to whatever other machine you're using, you have to carry your entire phone and marry it to whatever other machine and that causes problems, you lose the S-pen and the big screen.... There's nothing there, trust me.
If you'd gone S6 first, you'd be fine but going backward, you. Will. Hate. It.
Trust me.
The very first time you find yourself looking for an outlet before noon and realizing you don't have your fast charger.....
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I personally don't see the appeal. It looks nice, sure, but I don't think it's a huge step up from the Note 4. Plus, again personally, I bought the Note mainly for the big screen and the S-Pen, so I don't see me giving that up. But that's just me. If you feel the S6 would suit you better, then, by all means, go for it!
Why you don't try S6port
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Why you don't try S6port
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already on it
i have been using s6 edge and exynos note 4 for months here is my small review;
screen they are almost same for me.
camera both are even on daylight , at night s6 is better
with same apps and almost identical usage i get 3.5 hour sot on s6 , 6 hours on note 4
for me they are pretty much same on speed too whenever you check side by side app opening and browser speed etc. they are both faster than my s805 note edge.
general performance and stablity is abit different. note 4 is definetly more stable for me atleast you can know where it slows down( like camera to gallery switch and multitasking button) s6 is weird multitasking is totaly dead 1 app at a time, its slow on camera to gallery aswell but multitasking button is generally fast but it can slow down sometimes too.
ui looking is almost same also small differences here and there in addition to that there is themes.
finally, if you are s805 note 4 user maybe you can switch for abit better performance but other than that just go for note 5 or stick with note 4 if the size is ok for you.
Not sure why anyone with a Note 4 would want to upgrade to the S6. Still no AOSP for it, so you're doomed to slow Touchwiz so it will perform worse than a note 4 running AOSP. And like pointed out, who would want to give up the bigger screen ? That's probably the reason most people bought the Note 4 in the first place.
The s-pen, I never use myself, wouldnt care much about losing that though, but the screen would be a downgrade for me. And running Touchwiz of course too
Yeah i kind of agree... @gekkehenkie11 your support on cm12 is highly appreciated
no more samsung phone again.
they dont care about android updates.
I just swapped my S6 Edge (I use for 1 month) with my wife Note 4 Exynos.
The s6 E body is great and handy but screen is very small compare to Note 4.
S6 or S6 Edge + worth waiting? :fingers-crossed:
No not buy!! Bad battery!!!

How much software performance changed from note 5 to s7 edge?

Hi,
Im iphone user, im also android fan, s3 and s4 note 2 was my favourite,
From some year samsung is doing such crazy things with their ui,
Im using iPhone 6, i wanted to go back to andoid again so i bought note 5, i liked everything except software performance, scrolling in even popular app like facebook etc, was horrible, i sold it in week, im not against android, i think its samsung fault not google.
So i want to buy s7 edge now,
What user are experiencing anything bad and good,
Im iPhone user, i want smooth experience but in samsung device,
So is scrolling still laggy? How much smoother than old device?
Is it good time to buy ?
Please i lost big money when I sold week used note 5,
Now i want to be prepare.
Please help me to make decision.
Make sure you get s7 8890 based, much faster.
scrolling in facebook with 8890 is as smooth as iOS now... close to perfection
Thanks to all,
Can you make video please i would really thankfull.
I have s7 edge, previously Note Edge (also Note 4,3,2 ).
The difference between Note Edge and S7 Edge is evident. S7 is on from three days without restart, and the reactivity is always the same. Also the RAM management is improved, and the transition from an app to another.
I can see that stock browser is very very fast, the difference with chrome is evident, I was surprised.
I like the performances of this smartphone.
What I don't like are the edge panel, how they work.
When you recall the edge panel, the screen below is blurred and I hate this think .
Facebook, Youtube and Play store scrolling are significantly better. I don't have an iPhone to compare.
Stock browser is near perfect. Much better than Chrome for some reason.
I have the Snapdragon version if it makes any difference.
I will try s7 edge, i have to sell i6s , i hope i taken good decision..
Weird, I have the n5 Verizon one and haven't noticed any lag or scrolling issues, especially since the marshmallow update.
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So bought it finally.
As a iphone user. I have to say its really amazing phone.
Samsung changed it finally, lot from note 5.
Something I saw in s7 edge that I see touch wiggling some time when I hold finger. Some left that to tweech it.
Overall really great device.
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Any S8/+ user though about going back to S7/Edge?

Just wondering if any S8 user has or thought about maybe going back to S7. I love the S8 screen but the narrow design is different. I think I might prefer the S7 size and S8 isn't a big upgrade. imo I've had the S7 over a year which is a long time for me not sure if I want to go back since it will be maybe 5 months when the Note 8 will be out. I'm on T-Mobile Jump and not when I can Jump to my next phone if I stick with the S8. Another thing I bought at T-Mobile store so would have to pay the restocking fee.
i've thought about going back to me S6 edge plus several times, not sure I like the rounded screen edges, all the unlock features either dont work reliably or take several seconds. I find the fingerprint sensor on the back fiddly compared to my S6 so I dont use it. Everything else is fine, speed is good, screen quality very good and camera is slightly better than the S6, having 64 gig also helps though.
Only thing keeping me with it is that offical LED case hasnt turned up yet, if that turns the screen on without having to press the button this might save it for me. Where you can get apps to turn the screen on and off if you are using non samsung cases these apps interrupt the unlocking systems so you have to swipe to open every time, no doubt this is a deliverable decision by samsung to force you to buy one of their flip cases.
Not in a million years. First off, I only had the S7E because my Note 7's finally got bricked by Verizon (IMEI brick). The S7E was a step down from the N7. Now comparing the S7E to the S8+?? Makes the S7E seem very dated. It is not even close. I can't wait until we see what the Note 8 will be - it will be even nicer than the S8/S8+. No way in hello dolly would I take a step back.
S7 very dated come on man It's still a great phone. S7/S8 shouldn't be compared to a Note series. I've been a phone whore since 2000. It's never ending and pricey. I keep telling myself to stop or at least cut back. Phones just don't wow me as much.
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S7 very dated come on man It's still a great phone. S7/S8 shouldn't be compared to a Note series. I've been a phone whore since 2000. It's never ending and pricey. I keep telling myself to stop or at least cut back. Phones just don't wow me as much.
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I didn't say it WAS dated, but it feels dated compared to the S8. And yes, using them side by side, it feels dated. I also didn't say it isn't a great phone (the S7E), just compared to the S8 it is not nearly as nice. For many people the getting an S7 WOULD be an upgrade. My GF was using an S5, it worked fine for her, but I got her an S8 and it is night and day difference between them. Is what it is.
I have had many, many, many smartphones over the last ten years myself - too many to remember. I usually get at least one upgrade a year, sometimes I have done two. Every time I have upgraded there was a noticeable difference. The Note 4 was the phone I kept the longest (almost 2 years) because the Note 5 had no SD card support. So going from my Note 4 to the Note 7 was a HUGE upgrade. The Note 7 is still nicer than the S7E, but the S8+ is definitely a worthy upgrade to the Note 7. That being said, if I was still able to use my Note 7 I would not have gotten the S8+, but waiting for the Note 8. As is, the S7E was lacking too many things and had a tad smaller display for my needs compared to the Note line of phones and also compared to the S8+.

Note 7 Users

I know their some chatter buried in threads, but for those of you who were Note 7 users I'd love to know how you compare the s8+ to last years note.
It has widely been said that apart from it's one obvious flaw, the Note 7 was the best phone ever, so where does that put the s8+?
I'm still undecided to be honest. I'm still getting used to the fingerprint location, but the screen is amazing!
My Battery life is at about 90% of what I was getting out of my note and obviously no S-pen.
What do Ya'll think?
dumpyloser said:
I know their some chatter buried in threads, but for those of you who were Note 7 users I'd love to know how you compare the s8+ to last years note.
It has widely been said that apart from it's one obvious flaw, the Note 7 was the best phone ever, so where does that put the s8+?
I'm still undecided to be honest. I'm still getting used to the fingerprint location, but the screen is amazing!
My Battery life is at about 90% of what I was getting out of my note and obviously no S-pen.
What do Ya'll think?
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I have a Note 7 on my hand. Gotta love it. Shoot this might ticks off some sensitive folks here and be *****ing at me. Y am I still keeping it? Anyhow, let's get back to the point. There's not much difference between Note 7 vs s8+. Everything pretty much identical from physical stand's point to software. Note 7 is a bit shorter than s8+. If you put those 2 phone side by side you can't tell the difference. I'll get you some pics if you desire. Note 7 fits PERFECTLY inside the s8+'s phone case. They are pretty much same thickness, same curves, same symmetrical glass front/back, same width, EXCEPT s8+ is a bit taller. Now from the software, S8+'s is exactly identical to Note 7's. So obviously, whom ever still have Note 7 you aren't missing anything except loosing the screen real estate.
Nothing to date can compare, not even close, to my Note 7. It was a pocket PC.
I own the S8+ BUT if the Note 8 is anything like the Note 7 I will be changing.
Ryland
Ryland Johnson said:
Nothing to date can compare, not even close, to my Note 7. It was a pocket PC.
I own the S8+ BUT if the Note 8 is anything like the Note 7 I will be changing.
Ryland
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Care to elaborate? Other than the pen, I can't really think of any major difference between the 2 phones. How is s8+ "not even close" to note 7?
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Care to elaborate? Other than the pen, I can't really think of any major difference between the 2 phones. How is s8+ "not even close" to note 7?
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With respect you write "Other than the pen".....Its the Pen that makes the Note range the Note range.:good:
In past Note series the pen was 'just' a writing implement but on the Note 7 that pen became more or less a mouse making the Note 7 a sort of pocket PC.
Its all subjective, I just fell head over heels for the Note 7, I thought it was a genuine marvel of micro technology. For me the S8+, though a truly spectacular mobile, does not serve my own needs as well as that Note 7. I guess one could write that the Note series is similar to the S range with the addition of the S-pen and is more expensive. :highfive:
Different consumers will enjoy different mobiles thank goodness, its our choices that keep the various brands striving to perfect their products so we purchase them.
Ryland
Software is different - Note 7 shipped with 6.0 and the S8+ with 7.0.
They may not look too different but it's not the same software release...
My note 7 battery lasted a little longer and I do miss the aod screen write but other than a few software changes and the two things listed above they feel about the same. S8 might be a little snappier
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Software is different - Note 7 shipped with 6.0 and the S8+ with 7.0.
They may not look too different but it's not the same software release...
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Correct. Only if you r nick picking. Obviously newer releases comes with newer OS. Other than that, It's pretty much the same.
I was a light to moderate S-pen user, so losing it doesn't hurt me too bad.
I'm one of the few who held on for a long time and then just switched in december and didn't fight it anymore. The only reason I was okay doing that is because Samsung gave me to free s7edges for my trouble. I didn't lose a cent in the whole deal, gained 2 s7edges and 2 256gb Memory cards. The s7e was very lacking, but I'm very pleased with the s8+ compared to the note.
S8 plus is on par with the note 7. If there was an spen it would be an note 8.
It runs butter smooth and has a few of the things the note 7 had
I still have my Note 7.
My S8+ is snappier and battery life is a lot, lot better. Front facing camera of Note 7 is really bad compared to the S8+.
And of course, there's the bezel. The I put my S8+ beside my Note 7, the Note 7 already looks outdated.
For me, the less bezel, the better. I've pre-ordered the Xiaomi Mi Mix when it was announced because of that. I cancelled my order when I noticed that the shipping date kept being posponed.
When I look at the iPhone 7 for instance, it looks to me it's from 2010.
I'll be ordering the Note 8 the second it will be available for pre-order. I got the S8+ because my Note 7's IMEI was blocked, it's the only reason why I got the S8+. Otherwise I would have jumped from the Note 7 straight to the Note 8.
Overall, I far prefer my S8+ to my Note7. It's noticeably faster, it's prettier with the narrow bezels, and the fingerprint sensor works much better--yes, the placement is weird, but I'm used to it. I had given up on using the Note7's sensor, as it failed to read my fingerprint half the time. I also like the non-physical home key better.
The screen edges are slightly less curved on the S8+, and that seems to have solved the over-sensitivity that caused problems while typing on SwiftKey while grasping my Note7.
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Overall, I far prefer my S8+ to my Note7. It's noticeably faster, it's prettier with the narrow bezels, and the fingerprint sensor works much better--yes, the placement is weird, but I'm used to it. I had given up on using the Note7's sensor, as it failed to read my fingerprint half the time. I also like the non-physical home key better.
The screen edges are slightly less curved on the S8+, and that seems to have solved the over-sensitivity that caused problems while typing on SwiftKey while grasping my Note7.
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It was way worse on the S7E. The curve on the side was so much steeper. It drove me bonkers.
Does anyone know how to backup the notes taken with the S Pen on the lockscreen (when the screen is off and you take the S Pen out)?
Smart Switch told me it couldn't backup those notes. I'd really like to have them back when I'll get the Note 8. I might return my Note 7 tonight and don't want to lose them forever.
At the time, the Note7 was easily the best phone on the market. When I had to stop using it (the Canadian carriers blocked it), nothing else could compare. I had to settle for the S7 edge, which felt like a big step down.
Now that I have the S8+, I feel mostly satiated. On the S8+, I'm not a fan of the fingerprint reader location, I miss the S-Pen a bit, and I prefer the aesthetic of the more squared corners of the Note7 (when looking at it from the front). However, the feel in the hand is the same and I prefer the larger screen and on-screen buttons of the S8+. I really dislike capacitive and physical buttons.
If the Note8 is the S8+ with an S-Pen, more squared corners, and a fingerprint reader built into the screen, then it would probably be the perfect phone. I can't think of anything else I would change.
My note 7 had horrible battery life in comparison to the S8+. The fingerprint reader on the N7 was placed better but the accuracy was garbage and had this clicky cheap feeling. The Iris scanner is more accurate on the S8+ in my opinion. The N7 was laggy in some situations and I had redraws when exiting apps. The S8+ is blazing fast, no stutters no redraws. The pen I actually never used on the N7. Gimmick in my eyes.
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Does anyone know how to backup the notes taken with the S Pen on the lockscreen (when the screen is off and you take the S Pen out)?
Smart Switch told me it couldn't backup those notes. I'd really like to have them back when I'll get the Note 8. I might return my Note 7 tonight and don't want to lose them forever.
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I used Smart Switch to transfer from my Note7 to the S8+. All of the hand-written, screen-off notes were transferred and available in Samsung Notes on the S8+. I don't know if it matters, but I used the external storage transfer method (placing the backup on the SD card, which I then transferred to the other phone.)
Argh. It didn't work for me. I kept having that message saying it couldn't save them. All permissions were granted to Smart Switch, I don't understand why it wouldn't save them.
I just handed back my Note 7 ten minutes ago, at Costco. RIP
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S8+ is a little snappier and looks better. Camera seems better. I will switch to note 8 when it comes out. But this s8 is sure a huge step up from the v20 I had after note 7. The v20 looked decent on paper but after owning it I was really underwhelmed. I do miss the ir blaster though.
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