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Question about Different ROM bases.

So I want to install a custom rom but I am confused as to which I should use. I've read different roms and I've seen that they have different rom "bases" like cm 10.1, aokp, aosp, and PA(does it have a different rom base?). Just a question, what is the differences among them? Please help so I can decide which to flash.

Hmmm, good question, well most of the ROMs here are build off of official ROM source and thats what it means by base and the difference between them is almost everything from ui to features and stuff like that and to know which ROMs you like try flashing the the official ROMs like AOKP, CM, AOSP, and PA and then once you find the base you like then flash the other ROMs that are customized versions built from that ROM base
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All of these ROMs are built from AOSP; that's Android Open Source Project. It's where Google officially releases the source code. All custom ROMs on this type of device will be built on AOSP. If a ROM says it has CM or AOKP base, that means they built it off the source code for that ROM (which is initially built off AOSP) and added their own tweaks or whatever.
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easiest rom to go with that includes everything like modem and gapps and such.

What is the best rom to go with that has the modem and gapps included? also one with good tethering/hotspot so I dont gotta be subject to carrier extortion and rape... LOL.
I want something easy to flash and stuff since I am not the best with this sorta thing and money is tight. So can't afford to buy a new phone.

Stock based ROM.
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Which stock based one?

RemixedCat said:
Which stock based one?
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So many. Just let your brain choose.
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I don't have a lot of time.. That's why I posted here.
Ordering phone on Monday and going on a trip wed.
Wanna have the ROM by then with the least amt. of issues with straight talk.

Stay with the stock rom then. Most custom roms don't have gapps included.
Also, most custom roms require you to have a custom recovery. This requires additional flashing and time.

well I know about that but just some roms don't have modems or other things and I don't wanna have to search manually for stuff that's why I asked here !!

They're recommending stock because of the amount of time you have available to you before your trip. If you seriously want to flash a custom ROM prior to your trip, then you want to flash a Cyanogenmod-based or AOSP ROM. The question is, which version of Android do you want?
If you want Android 5.11, install Optimized CM12.1 + GApps.
If you want Android 6.0, AOSP 6 + GApps. If you want the goodies normally found in a Cyanogenmod-based ROM, then you want Synergy or CrDroid + GApps.
All the ROMs recommended install quickly with TWRP as your recovery. Keep in mind however that every ROM, even stock ROMs, will have bugs. However the bugs in the aforementioned ROMs will not prevent you from using the device. The good news is that unless you use a CDMA device such as a Verizon or Sprint Galaxy S4, you should not have to worry about which modem you have. The same cannot always be said for the Touchwiz ROMs, but even then, unless you have a pre-Android 5 modem you should be OK.
For Touchwiz-based ROMs, look at the ones available from Albe95. Regardless of which one you install, keep in mind that the package is much larger than Cyanogenmod or AOSP, and thus will take longer to install. Albe95 generally recommends the latest modem for your device, so if that is a deal breaker, then go Cyanogenmod/AOSP.

I want 4.4.x or 5.o for some of the betas I'm testing.
Will the ones you recommended have the modem included. I'd hate to have to hunt n peck n trial n error with that.

Custom ROMs do not include modems, period. If a ROM recommends a modem, you'll have to get it from the appropriate thread. I can tell you that AOSP and Cyanogenmod do not require a specific modem. For example, I'm running AOSP 6 on Straight Talk as we speak. I never upgraded the modem from the Android 5.0.1 version I installed seven months prior.

so CM doesn't include it? that sucks. what one do you recommend? and how is that flashed?

As mentioned, no custom ROM includes the modem in its download, because unless the ROM specifies otherwise, you use the one already on the phone. So in the case of Cyanogenmod, there is nothing special to do. Simply install the recovery through Odin, boot into the recovery, and install the ROM.

Creating a new ROM stock-based but without ASUS apps and interface

Hi,
Is it possible to create a ROM based on stock .87, but without ASUS interface (settings, quick settings, lockscreen and such) and ASUS/Zen UI? Something that looks like AOSP/CM, but uses stock kernel and software.
If so, what would I have to do? I've never created a ROM myself, even though I've been using custom ROMs since 2013. Would it be enough just to change the APKs for AOSP ones?
Thanks!

*Creating a new stock-based ROM. Sorry for the English error.

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Just use empty stock android and flash gapps (I think there is empty stock room)

AOSP 5.0.2 use stock kernel

Which ROM is right now the simpliest and the fastest?

Which ROM is right now the simplest and the fastest? I don't play any games, i want the most stable rom, where i can make calls, type messages, use internet browser, facebook, messenger and one app named "wykop". Is there anything?
Thank you!
Samsung S4 I9506

LineageOS is a very good ROM; comes with Android 7.1 Nougat, and supports all of your described needs. It is possibly the fastest, although it does not come with the play store, you will have to flash OpenGapps through recovery. In fact I'm using Lineage right now.
Hope you have good luck with it

MoKee is another good one
Just try it

@Aroko: The previous posters are simply throwing out ROMs without taking into account your specific needs. Based upon those needs, the most stable ROM for you would be stock Touchwiz. Now, you haven't specified whether you want the latest version of Android or not, but custom ROMs also come with custom compromises. For example, in some custom ROMs the camera crashes so badly that a reboot is required to fix it. It happened to me when I was using my I9505 as a daily driver, and the solution I had come up with was to use a third party camera app with its own camera binaries, because the ones included in the ROM didn't work.
The above is merely one example. If you're willing to deal with such annoyances, the Optimized Lineage OS ROM or Optimized AOSP ROM by JDCTeam may be a suitable choice. Otherwise, stick with stock.

Basic Qs about Custom Kernels and ROMS

I've been mucking around with Android for a while but basically stay with a ROM and what it comes packaged (or recommended) with.
Recently I've been looking around at Custom Kernels and I see they offer different options and functionality, but I lack some basic information:
I am guessing that the Kernel and ROM have to be compatible?
Is, for example a Kernel like Blu Spark or Lighting (all for OP5 and Nougat) compatible with all OP5 Nougat ROMs or is it ROM by ROM?
I looked over the pages for both Kernels and also for xXx Freedom OS and didn't see any information concerning compatible ROMs or compatible Kernels, is there any place/list that shows the compatibility of ROMs and Kernels?
Any information, or guidance to where I can find it would be appreciated.

Very simple.
There are 2 types of kernels. One which only works on an OOS based (custom) Rom, and one which will only work on a LOS or AOSP based Rom. Most custom kernels will work on every LOS or AOSP based ROM. But... There's one negative thing about flashing custom or OOS based Kernels. You will never know how the Kernel and/or ROM will behave. There's no 100 percent guarantee if a custom Kernel or ROM are made for each other. Even if a Kernel which comes with the ROM is no guarantee for working properly. There's no such thing as "Stable" even with ROMs. Because stable doesn't exist in a Dev World. It will always be a never ending story.
Long story short, search for yourself an satisfying combination. If you found one combination you like, stick with it and motivate the Custom ROM Developer and or Kernel Developer.
Edit: as you can read i cannot give a proper answer to your questions. The reason why a Custom ROM Dev doesn't show a list in their OP for working Custom Kernels, is mainly based on the fact that they don't like if a user flash another Kernel that didn't came with their ROM. Mostly to avoid non related ROM issues. Besides that, if you made a decision to flash a Different kernel, along with their ROM, you're on your own.
Sorry for being off-topic.

Each kernel needs to be build for each rom. Well not each rom. Each rom based on the top three. OOS, AOSP, and LOS. As each has their own kernel.
If you use LOS 14.1 or RR, then youll need a los kernel. If you run stock OOS. Freedom or xXx, youll need an oos based kernel
Not all devs build their kernels for los or aosp. Me as an example. I only have mine built for OOS and It wont work on los or aosp (well it may but you are 99.999% likely to run into a lot of problems)
I hope that clears it up a tad bit

lekiaM said:
Very simple.
There are 2 types of kernels. One which only works on an OOS based (custom) Rom, and one which will only work on a LOS or AOSP based Rom. Most custom kernels will work on every LOS or AOSP based ROM. But... There's one negative thing about flashing custom or OOS based Kernels. You will never know how the Kernel and/or ROM will behave. There's no 100 percent guarantee if a custom Kernel or ROM are made for each other. Even if a Kernel which comes with the ROM is no guarantee for working properly. There's no such thing as "Stable" even with ROMs. Because stable doesn't exist in a Dev World. It will always be a never ending story.
Long story short, search for yourself an satisfying combination. If you found one combination you like, stick with it and motivate the Custom ROM Developer and or Kernel Developer.
Edit: as you can read i cannot give a proper answer to your questions. The reason why a Custom ROM Dev doesn't show a list in their OP for working Custom Kernels, is mainly based on the fact that they don't like if a user flash another Kernel that didn't came with their ROM. Mostly to avoid non related ROM issues.
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@lekiaM You provided a great answer and thank you. I did notice that some developers (xXx NoLimits) provide the option to select various Kernel during the install. I pretty much expected that matching a Rom to Kernel was a crap shoot to certain degree. I am going to try a few out and see how it goes.
One final question, if a Kernel offers functionality that is not offered in the original Kernel, how do you go about taking advantage of the added functionality?
Will the Kernel add those selection to the settings or will I need a different app to access them? I was thinking in particular of the don't wake on plug/unplug. I utilized some ROMs (CM) that had this feature in the setting, I use Freedom OS now and don't see that in the setting, but I see that the Blu Spark Kernel offers access to that function.

Zombie said:
Each kernel needs to be build for each rom. Well not each rom. Each rom based on the top three. OOS, AOSP, and LOS. As each has their own kernel.
If you use LOS 14.1 or RR, then youll need a los kernel. If you run stock OOS. Freedom or xXx, youll need an oos based kernel
Not all devs build their kernels for los or aosp. Me as an example. I only have mine built for OOS and It wont work on los or aosp (well it may but you are 99.999% likely to run into a lot of problems)
I hope that clears it up a tad bit
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It does thanks. Prior to selecting some ROMs to try, I read that AOSP required a specific ROM so I steered away from it, for now. Until I am able to become a little more familiar with the entire subject.

noncomjd said:
It does thanks. Prior to selecting some ROMs to try, I read that AOSP required a specific ROM so I steered away from it, for now. Until I am able to become a little more familiar with the entire subject.
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An aosp based rom will install and run like any other rom you decide to flash. It comes with the stock kernel built in
Each rom has their advantages and disadvantages. Currently Im running xXx 4.0 which is OOS based with extra features and then of course my own kernel for better performance and battery

@noncomjd Good question. And honestly I've been wondering that too (most of the time) i could gave you a simple answer on that, but i wont.
A Kernel can interfere with the ROMs behavior (for example manipulate the vibration, sounds, led light strength, button behavior and so on.) But a Kernel has their limits too and also the Kernel Dev in question. Besides that , i did saw some very strange things a Kernel Dev can do to manipulate a ROMs behavior. But i wont go further in that.
Answer to your question:
Yes. A good kernel dev can overwrite or add some tweaks in the ROM itself (you won't see it while flashing, but believe me after that, some things in settings are missing or added in the build.prop) . But as i earlier said it has their limits. A good Kernel Dev is aware of their capabilities. And they mostly play save. If a kernel Dev mentioned or added a feature or something in their changelog, than the feature is there. But to enable or disable that feature, you mostly need an 3rd party app(like a Kernel Manager) to activate or deactivate their added feature.

You need a kernel tweaking app in order to change kernel settings.
You can change those settings even if you run the stock kernel, but it won't offer as much features.
There are many kernel tweaking apps available and some kernels even provide their own apps.

Thanks all for some great information. Have a good base to set out exploring a little more.