[POLL] - Battery life better under Android M or N? - X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

So my Moto Z Force is quickly becoming a steaming pile of garbage, so I'm resurrecting my trusty Moto X Pure (XT1575). One of the issues with my Z has been battery (both degradation and quicker drain). The drain seems to be worse on 7.1, then it was before (on 7.0 or 6).
I've searched some threads on here and seems to be a mixed bag for people. Are you getting better battery performance on Nougat or Marshmallow?
For clarity, I am running stock, not rooted, not bootloader unlocked.

It is about the same for me. I get ~3hrs of SOT daily.

AsquareX said:
It is about the same for me. I get ~3hrs of SOT daily.
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I guess I should have added a 3rd poll option: "No difference". Thanks!

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Android 6.0 Marshmallow battery discussion

This thread is for battery life discussion of android 6 Marshmallow.
I took the plunge recently and installed cm13 nightly on my phone after a couple of days with sultan's cm13 ROM. One notice that the android team really got the battery optimisations right this time especially when coming from android 5.1. The cell standby and android system bug is now gone and the phone can now be in standby for a long time. My usage pattern is browsing, reading in Adobe reader, listening to mucisc with bluetooth headphones, facebook, wassup, some youtube videos, sms and few calls. I play farm heros sometimes but I don't play graphical intensive games.
Here are 2 screenshots of my phone. It was charged to 100% at 8:00am on 30/11/2015 and it still has 41% left as at 10:00am 02/12/2015 Granted I have only used it on wifi and I configured wifi to automatically disable 5 minutes after the screen is off.
You can post you battery life too.
We already have a thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2753354 @Darth @Heisenberg please close off this thread if need be?
Bobbi lim said:
We already have a thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2753354 @Darth @Heisenberg please close off this thread if need be?
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If a moderator deem it fit, he/she can close the thread but I felt it will be nice to make a dedicated thread for Marshmallow instead of looking through a big thread to get the relevant information needed for a particular android version.
lallolu said:
If a moderator deem it fit, he/she can close the thread but I felt it will be nice to make a dedicated thread for Marshmallow instead of looking through a big thread to get the relevant information needed for a particular android version.
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yes.
It still sucks on mobile data. Nothing changed from Lollipop in regards of mobile data battery drain and i wish google could do something about it.
That's it! It's still on LP niveau
i had around 2 hours of screen on time and less than a day's battery life. The MMS also didn't work with WiFi connected, so I switched back to CM12.
I finally charged the phone today but not before I took a screenshot. My usage is not heavy at all so for heavy users, I guess the SOT will be longer but the total number of hours the phone was on will be lower. My usage did not change form that of 5.1 but I can definitely see a great change in standby time.
Still doesn't beat out KitKat in terms of heavy usage IMO.
The performance(yield) of the battery essuperior to android 5.1. The cycle of load lasts approximately two hours more of screen.
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Still doesn't beat out KitKat in terms of heavy usage IMO.
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Try Omniron Herna build, it does wonders on my phone regarding battery usage
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6.0 has the same battery life as 5.x for me. about 4-5h SoT.
KitKat and early 5.0 builds were clearly better with 8h SoT
Currently running Sultan's ROM CM13:
My battery life has hugely improved when I'm not touching the phone, no one app is draining way to much battery while not in the foreground.
There is one problem some people including me have been experiencing which is that Wi-Fi doesn't switch of properly and drains the battery, the only solution I found was to reboot the device after switching it off.
Not sure if this is a CM problem or the specific rom but not AOSP.
But apart from that battery life is good.
On sultan CM 13 CAF
Getting 4-5 hrs of SOT
Still waiting on a fix for mobile radio active. Had to go back to KitKat after a year on 5.x and a week or so on cm13. The difference in battery is staggering. Here's hoping Google actually finds a solution for the drain, otherwise I'm gonna have to stick to KitKat until I get a new phone.
I dont worry much abt battery charge ..currently on CM13.. dont see much of difference ... expect charge to last for 1 day.. connect to charging when home
Tech guys suggest me best battery rom for OPO don't fun with me by saying cm11s 44s. Almost 1 year stick to cm11 I need some latest android version in my device,
I'm new to xda
Thanks in advance!
Just stole myself this glorious phone yesterday (not really.. got a smokin deal) after 3 years and a month on a Nexus 4 that was left stock the entire time. My OPO is already rooted/unlocked so I'm trying to test out and find the best rom for battery life as both of the cm lollipop and marshmallow roms I've tried are about equal in terms of buttery-ness and just stick with that rom indefinitely.
Is general consensus that cm11 kit kat is far superior to the later cm roms in terms of battery life? Which exact rom would you choose as the last rom you flash onto your OPO ever?
bachera said:
Try Omniron Herna build, it does wonders on my phone regarding battery usage
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Is really smooth, whats kind of SOT are you getting with this rom? Any tips
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tankhood said:
Is really smooth, whats kind of SOT are you getting with this rom? Any tips
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oh screen on time 6 hours with browsing and light resource using gaming
every other rom falls short.
I have to say it was the november builds that got me that. with some tweaking. same tweaking I do on all roms
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battery life improvement on Lollipop

hello,
i've seen this video about comparison of battery life test between KK and LP for the lg G2,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KV_3XWEzfic
as i saw, there is a big difference between KK & LP, is that really true ? because as i've seen on some articles, people complaint about battery life drain on LP
so what's your result after using LP on G2, does the battery drain faster ? or it really long lasts as the video shown ?!
chegue4 said:
hello,
i've seen this video about comparison of battery life test between KK and LP for the lg G2,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KV_3XWEzfic
as i saw, there is a big difference between KK & LP, is that really true ? because as i've seen on some articles, people complaint about battery life drain on LP
so what's your result after using LP on G2, does the battery drain faster ? or it really long lasts as the video shown ?!
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I have not used kk, but this is stock no bloatware and sutom kernel. just doing whats app and about 5-6 pics and a small 50 second video..
7h30mn Screen On Time i think is good with Wifi Always On, don't you think this ? i need some other feedback plz
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7h30mn Screen On Time i think is good with Wifi Always On, don't you think this ? i need some other feedback plz
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My dude, that hype about lollipop having bad battery life is true, but partially. The thing is, I call them "stupid" users who update their android without wiping and then have problems and complain, shout and all the stuff blaming LG for that. You will get the same battery life you get with kitkat IF you clean flash! Factory reset/wipe and then flash it for fresh start and the battery life will be as good, if not better, because I think lollipop manages GPU better so when watching youtube, you get even less battery drain compared to kitkat. I'm not sure tho, but you can not be worried about the battery life on lollipop!
There was definitely a big battery life drop between stock KK and stock/AOSP LP.
I installed and paid for the full version of servicely - which displays which apps are waking up your wakelock and lets you disable them when the display is off.

So guys, in your opinion, which is the best Nougat ROM with the best battery life?

Been very excited about the awesome work the devs are pulling off. Just thinking which one to flash!
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1chrome said:
Been very excited about the awesome work the devs are pulling off. Just thinking which one to flash!
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Beanstalk Rom has the best Battery life
1chrome said:
Been very excited about the awesome work the devs are pulling off. Just thinking which one to flash!
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Battery life depends on so many facts, I already explained this in other forums. You can't compare battery life between different types of usage. So it's to you to test with your own UNIQUE usage behavior & apps+network different roms to find your own.
For example: heavy users(draining battery within 24 hours) don't care about wake locks or Alarms, but people who let their device for hours laying on the desk does
strongst said:
Battery life depends on so many facts, I already explained this in other forums. You can't compare battery life between different types of usage. So it's to you to test with your own UNIQUE usage behavior & apps+network different roms to find your own.
For example: heavy users(draining battery within 24 hours) don't care about wake locks or Alarms, but people who let their device for hours laying on the desk does
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That's absolutely true.
I'm more of the kind of guy who leaves the phone idle a lot. I would love a ROM which doesn't drain battery on idle.
Since I use Greenify and also don't frequently keep my data on either, I'm expecting good battery which I unfortunately don't get on my Nougat stock (it drains about 5 - 8% on idle, which seems bad for me atleast).
Agreed - it's not the final build and all but since there's no Xposed or a custom kernel available, I'm kinda stuck with stock.
I don't wanna downgrade either for the sake of battery as I simply love what Google had done with Nougat!
That's why I am considering a custom ROM [emoji12]
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1chrome said:
That's absolutely true.
I'm more of the kind of guy who leaves the phone idle a lot. I would love a ROM which doesn't drain battery on idle.
Since I use Greenify and also don't frequently keep my data on either, I'm expecting good battery which I unfortunately don't get on my Nougat stock (it drains about 5 - 8% on idle, which seems bad for me atleast).
Agreed - it's not the final build and all but since there's no Xposed or a custom kernel available, I'm kinda stuck with stock.
I don't wanna downgrade either for the sake of battery as I simply love what Google had done with Nougat!
That's why I am considering a custom ROM [emoji12]
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The unofficial nougat is quite good, as I'm also have similar usage behavior and the idle drain is OK. I don't use greenify and amplify anymore cause doze in nougat works even better then introduced in MM where I used it to get better behavior even with doze.

It's almost 2018, is moto x style still good enough to deal with it?

Hi guys!
I wanted to ask you how this phone defend itself in this time. Is it still good enough for the upcoming 2018?
I heard that the processor was overheating and it had similar problems with battery like his little bro moto x 2014.
The phone is good enough... the battery is life and longevity is garbage, this phones primary weakness is the battery and without it being replaceable easily with a good, quality replacement (which is hard to find) it just falls short.
Does it get warm... yup. The CPU and display are both battery hogs, and the battery Moto used is honestly at the end of it's life or near it for most people.
Thank you very much!
One more question. How's looking moto/ambient display on it?
I have Moto G 2015 (osprey) and Moto X 2014 (victara) and sometimes ambient display on osprey looks a bit bad because of it's IPS panel...
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Thank you very much!
One more question. How's looking moto/ambient display on it?
I have Moto G 2015 (osprey) and Moto X 2014 (victara) and sometimes ambient display on osprey looks a bit bad because of it's IPS panel...
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Ambient Display on the Moto X Pure is a little different... assuming you have the latest Nougat, it is one pulse of information, it doesn't repeat. Honestly, I find it of little use and disable it.
It sounds like you are looking at buying one... All I can say is don't bother at this point unless you are getting an really incredible bargain, like under 20% of the cost new, because the battery is that bad especially after this much time. There are much better bargains out there.
Since you have had a Moto G 2015 (and I did as well) let me give you a comparison... I found the X got 1/2-2/3 of the battery life of the Moto G 2015 when new, and that actually got worse. By the time I got rid of my MXPE after about 18 months of normal use, I was unable to get 2 hours of SOT over a 5 hour period and was charging 2-3 times per day, where the Moto G 2015 which was actually about 3 or 4 months older was still getting 3.5 hours of SOT and making it through a full day.
Def good enough. I bought an S8+ after having the Moto for 2 years. Development sucks for the American S8+. The only positive is better battery life, in my opinion. The display is kinda wonky on the Galaxy compared to the Moto as well. I was just praising the amount of flexibility allowed by the Moto in an S8+ thread. Yea, battery sucks but it charges quick. I still found myself charging less often and a hell of a lot more quickly than my coworkers with their crappy iPhones.
Battery life is not a problem for me. Still it lasts the whole day. There is a bunch of 7.1.2 roms which decrease the battery life noticeably. Stock or AICP, no problems with battery life. It gets hot by hard usage, yes.
Maybe really hard phone users wont last the day.
And any non-replaceable battery is replaceable. It just involves taking the phone apart.
Waiting for some 8.0 rom to test.
Now that I have 7.0 using the Sprint SIM trick on VZW and managed to get WiFi Calling working i think this phone is pretty sweet for the $250 I paid for it.
I would not buy this phone again, battery life is crap and cpu overheats even with easy 2d games (lol). Also there are common graphics glitches (like colors being way off for no reason or display looking broken with white stripes or something) that happen once 1-3 months (that's really strange) - sure they disappear after reboot but it makes this phone unreliable. Also the backlight quality in some devices is very bad.
yeah the screen, camera, speakers and build quality are very good. I have my Moto X Pure running on Carbon and it's very good. I'm gonna get a Moto Z next week though
As a backup phone for running Youtube TV or letting my daughter play with, absolutely. As a daily driver, not a chance in hell. The battery discharges too fast, the phone over heats, and the NFC is very spotty after 3 years.
Personally, I could get by easily with a Palm Pre or an Epic 4g. For my use the battery lasts all day and I get about 4.5 hrs of sot on average. I dont notice alot of heating up personally on AEX rom with handbag kernel.
Because nothing else is yet!
The answer is yes... because it's the only thing "good enough to deal with." Aside from the basics, I have six standard criteria for choosing a mobile device, of which five absolutely must be met (Verizon compatibility, unlockable bootloader, excellent screen, acceptable camera, price, and software). The Pure Edition soundly meets all six, and then some. No other device (at this point in time) can match that. The deteriorating battery situation is a bummer, but largely overblown by people (like myself) who used Magisk and got stuck with the whole magisk-daemon-eating-up-the-battery situation.
With that said, I've always got my eyes open for devices that can satisfy these six basic criteria, but in the meantime, I'll count my blessings. I've researched dozens upon dozens of different phones, and the only thing that this research makes me feel is thankfulness for the Pure Edition, because I don't know what I'd do without it, at least for the long term.

Im still on android 6.0

I have never updated my phone since i first got it. Most of my previous android phones have had battery issues once i updated them. I was curious how anyone with the same phones battery life compares with the latest update? I have the exynos model.
You should update mate
Battery Life, Performance everything is stellar on oreo/nougat
Get 7/8 hrs battery life out off my own handheld
Pretty strong benchmark as well
The other drawback with marshmallow is they've stopped development on it so feature amd efficiency-wise you're also limited
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You should update mate
Battery Life, Performance everything is stellar on oreo/nougat
Get 7/8 hrs battery life out off my own handheld
Pretty strong benchmark as well
The other drawback with marshmallow is they've stopped development on it so feature amd efficiency-wise you're also limited
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The biggest reason stopping me is battery life, ive seen lots of posts online complaining after the update!
Sohail2023 said:
I have never updated my phone since i first got it. Most of my previous android phones have had battery issues once i updated them. I was curious how anyone with the same phones battery life compares with the latest update? I have the exynos model.
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never update your phone . android 6 is the best
Sohail2023 said:
The biggest reason stopping me is battery life, ive seen lots of posts online complaining after the update!
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Sorry about the late reply mate
XDA never notifies me of this **** ?
If you're having issues with battery try installing the Notorious or Superstock Kernels, those are the most efficient at battery saving. You won't be disappointed I promise You!

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