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I was very pleased to read this-
http://www.gsmarena.com/200000_samsung_glaxy_s_phones_sold_in_south_korea_in_10_days-news-1786.php
Considering the fact that stocks sell off like hot scones in the UK and there are even shortages, and the fact that the device is selling well in the U.S even before carrier-based versions started selling, i see a bright future for the Galaxy S platform.
If in south korea alone it sold 200,000 , and in the UK Clove, Expansys and Handtec had severe shortages untill several days ago, i'm guessing it already sold over 300-350K worldwide.
Again, even before carriers around the world started marketing it.
Now i want to see what happens after carriers around the world start selling it, if these kinds of numbers will continue to flow in, i think it's close to impossible that samsung won't support it for a prolonged period.
Share your 2 cents, i'm having great expectations right now.
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If in north korea alone it sold 200,000 ,
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Thank you, that made my day
^ Yeah, I lol at that one.
But OP, your right. This is Samsung's all out effort to gain marketshare in the smartphone area. They are #2 when it comes to feature phones (dumb phones). However, in smartphone market, they are #4 or 5. In fact, last quarter they LOST market share. Analysts have projected that in a few years, the majority of phones sold will be smartphones, so it is imperative for Samsung to gain market share and win over customers. You can not do that with products that are unsupported. I bet they got a wake up call when HTC came out of no where and gained market share quicker then Samsung did. In fact HTC (which is very small company compared to Samsung), has a greater market share than the big ol Samsung. They know for a fact that with increased relations with developers, that their handsets have gained sales. Samsung created an open source distribution website where source codes for most of their products have been released since April of this year. So that is a good positive step in the right direction. Also, we all know Samsung makes great hardware, however their software side has been less stellar. Its beginning to be changed as more money and resources are pouring into the software side.(Bada, new R&D center in India devoted to software, new emphasis by corporate to focus more money in software etc).
I hope we are right.
As far as I can see, Samsung is winning customers over HTC right now. I am one of those, and I spotted many others in the forums.
IMO the point is that HTC's success has been largely undeserved, but rather based on the efforts of people here on XDA; on the contrary, it looks like they did everything they could to make people run away screaming. Despite all the work that has been done, even developers on XDA have never found a way to get a performance from, say, the Touch HD that could at least be called acceptable, if you look at the specs. Marketing a device as the "ultimate multimedia experience" and then selling it without proper drivers, is just pure BS. And this incredible problem affected an entire range of products for at least two years.
So, I would say, HTC should be paying a much higher price than they are, for their behaviour... we'll see in the next few months. I know I sound harsh but I seriously hope they lose it. Samsung FTW
OP needs to change his topic to something less misleading. When i first glance your "bright spot" made me thought that the new phones have some defect in the screen.
I thought your post was to say that samsung sold many phones with defective "bright spots" on their screens.
Wtf is a bright spot anyway lol see thick ppl do buy **** fones lol
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INeedYourHelp said:
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Oh my
Fixed, although i'm sure even kim jong ill wouldn't mind a galaxy s.
And now can someone please translate AndroHero's post for me? i'm having trouble trying to discern what language is that.
Anyways, now that samsung is selling masses of their flagship phone, they have to be completely retarded to not support it properly. It would be equevilant to commiting suicide.
Also, it sold a lot on their "home court", if samsung will let even koreans down, their cellular department is going to take a major hit.
AndroHero said:
Wtf is a bright spot anyway lol see thick ppl do buy **** fones lol
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Is that an attempt at trolling? Your post doesn't make "sense" at all, please use the stock home screen.
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No, it's because you're thick; now trot on son
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Well I must be thick too, cos I also made the same mistake and thought this was a bad news post, and relieved to see it was good news.
Since you are new here, you might try giving people the benefit of the doubt.
I'd change the title, but i don't see the option to.
Edit- Oh, here it is.
Better now?
Pika007 said:
I'd change the title, but i don't see the option to.
Edit- Oh, here it is.
Better now?
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Thanks Pika. Anyway, all those Galaxy's out there definitely a good thing.
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I'd change the title, but i don't see the option to.
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Better now?
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Looks good to me. But I had no issue with the original title either.
TravUK said:
Thanks Pika. Anyway, all those Galaxy's out there definitely a good thing.
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Should be galaxies?
mickeko said:
Should be galaxies?
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You could be right....
A great copyrighting idea just popped in my head-
Samsung can make a centeral update/app center for galaxy devices.
The name?
Samsung Universe.
samsung
Hello,
Here is a little article about samsung vs apple, there is a nice section about production lines.
It's a Korean article transleted into English.
[too bad I'm new and can't post a link] To those still interested by the article, you can google search "askakorean apple vs samsung" first article!
It's maybe a bit out of context, but since you were talking about shortages.
If someone would be nice enough to post the link so it's easier for everybody
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Hello,
Here is a little article about samsung vs apple, there is a nice section about production lines.
It's a Korean article transleted into English.
[too bad I'm new and can't post a link] To those still interested by the article, you can google search "askakorean apple vs samsung" first article!
It's maybe a bit out of context, but since you were talking about shortages.
If someone would be nice enough to post the link so it's easier for everybody
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Here's the link
http://askakorean.blogspot.com/2010/06/ask-korean-news-apple-v-samsung.html
Interesting to read someones opinion, but that's all it is. My other half is Korean, and she, like I work in the electronics industry and we're both intimately aware of how Korean giants like Samsung operate, the key element in the Galaxy S isnt rapid turn around, its a change in corporate policy towards the design of the phone, by involving hundreds of potential users in the development stages.
I also disagree with his premise that the iPhone 4 is a 'great' product. I've had a play with an iPhone 4 and I think it suffers from Form over Function. It's actually a little uncomfortable in the hand. It may be made from glass and steel and look great, but such hard materials with squared off edges and profiles doesn't sit right in your hand.
The objects we most commonly hold in our hands are cups/mugs, pens and computer mice. They're rounded and softened, ok household mugs are ceramic from a practical materials aspect, but even a travel mug has a rubberized grip.
I just don't get the hysteria over the IP4, when I look at it I do see a photogenic object, but I also see a design fail.
Leaving the comfortability issue aside, i'm bothered by the durability aspect.
Using superhardened glass may be good against scratches, but without a shock absorbing frame of some sort, the harder the galss- the more prone to shattering it will be, and harder glass shatters more catastrophically.
"regular" hardness glass usually gets cracks or little shattered points.
Superhardened galss- it's "all or nothing". Either nothing hapeens, or it shatters completely.
Deciding to put the glass ON the frame instead of IN the frame (like previous iPhones) was a much bigger design flaw than the less-round corners IMO.
I'm hearing a lott of buzz about samsung using mostly plastic, and how "inappropreate" it is for a super high-end device, but from a pratical viewpoint-
It's durable, it's cheap and easy to replace it's comfortable, and it doesn't block reception as much as more expensive materials.
Indeed, my BlackBerry is plastic, and that's never been an issue.
So I was looking @ chinese devices and I saw this one at chinagrabber.com and would like to know what u all think. Its called the gs-708. I want a tab that runs gingerbread with decent specs, duel cameras and supports 3g and sim cards. Advice is welcome. Didn't know where else to post this. I know the nookis an easy device to root but imlooking for a device with a little more to offer. Idealized there will be little to no device support but I am learning to work with devices.
Here's the link.
http://chinagrabber.com/gs-708-cell...---android-2-3-tablet-pc---3g-flash-10-4.aspx
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So I was looking @ chinese devices and I saw this one at chinagrabber.com and would like to know what u all think. Its called the gs-708. I want a tab that runs gingerbread with decent specs, duel cameras and supports 3g and sim cards. Advice is welcome. Didn't know where else to post this
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Link to the device?
You'll probably have more luck in the General Android area than here. Or even on AndroidTablets.net
Try out Slatedroid
http://www.slatedroid.com/
They have info on the chinese tablets
MK
A word of warning. Chinese vendors have recently released a multitude of tablets that look nice on the outside and act nice when you first turn it on. The problem that's been floating around the internet is that they often die after a few days. These are cheap imitations of the real thing.
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First, it was the Iped. Now, it's the Apad. There's also the Superpad. There's a reason they name them so closely to the Ipad.
I don't mean to put down foreign companies. But we really do have to watch out for these fake tablets.
GS-708 tablet
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So I was looking @ chinese devices and I saw this one at chinagrabber.com and would like to know what u all think. Its called the gs-708. I want a tab that runs gingerbread with decent specs, duel cameras and supports 3g and sim cards. Advice is welcome. Didn't know where else to post this. I know the nookis an easy device to root but imlooking for a device with a little more to offer. Idealized there will be little to no device support but I am learning to work with devices.
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ww. Apad.tv forums has a thread on this tablet. It is original and nothing about it is fake. even the iPad is made in China as is probably the iconia. Probably not the best place to post as people are iConia A500 owners.
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ww. Apad.tv forums has a thread on this tablet. It is original and nothing about it is fake. even the iPad is made in China as is probably the iconia. Probably not the best place to post as people are iConia A500 owners.
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This is why I said I am not dissing foreign products. I fully understand that most things these days are made in China. But there's a difference. Products with legit names have (hopefully) better quality control.
Again, why in the world would a product brand named almost a perfect immitation of a real thing that's popular? Iped. Apad. Superpad. Etc. If a product can stand on its own silicon feet, then let it. If it needs to imitate to sell, then chances are it's got something to hide.
People often try to talk me down when I share my concern. So, let me repeat. I have no problem with products made in China. I do have a problem with these companies that are springing up all over China that pay little attention to quality control and sell their products through cheap imitation of real popular things. We as consumers need to stop supporting these immoral practices by staying away from these cheap imitations.
Fair enough. for the most part a lot of rogue sellers on B2c platforms, and auction sites do not qc products before shipping - this does not mean the product is inferior: it comes down to how the seller qc's / tests / describes product before shipping.
It is not fair to make assumptions about company qc. ChinaGrabber.com is actually a USA site if you do a who.is search.
Lastly, many people on the apad.tv forums, including myself, have bought the "Branded" iBex Flytouch3.
ChinaGrabber is also a supporter of the forum so if their products have quality issues, including iBex tablets, I am sure people would be complaining. For the most part, I have only seen positive reviews.
The GS-708 is a new tablet so it will probably be a while until people get it and review it.
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It is not fair to make assumptions about company qc. ChinaGrabber.com is actually a USA site if you do a who.is search.
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Again, I am not dissing everything that comes out of China or embracing everything that comes out of the US. There are honest to god legit US companies that have been created for the sole purpose of having an American sounding name and American base to sell Chinese, often inferior, products. An example of this is the company called Augen based in Florida. I'm sure many of you have heard of the Augen gentouch series. These are really cheap tablets that pretty much have everything that's wrong with them. Quality control is nonexistent. Tech support is nonexistent. The screens are made of plastic instead of glass.
For a time, I was curious enough to look into this company. What I found was that this so-called company name Augen has exactly 7 employees, including the so-called CEO. The company base is in a hotel suit. So, I went a step further and bought one of their products. I then pretended to be a complete dummy and called their "tech support". I asked some questions that any newbie dev would know. It was painful to listen to the guy's half-cooked answers. Let just say he didn't even know what a kernel was.
Augen is now selling what they call their espresso series. Very shiny pieces of plastic. Completely not worth anything at all.
The point is again let me repeat myself. We as consumers need to discourage such immoral practices in the trade by staying away from these fakers. Yes, most of them are from China. But there are a number of them who are based here in the US. And I am convinced they are all over Europe as well.
If the name sounds almost like something really popular, best to stay away from it.
Lastly, many people on the apad.tv forums, including myself, have bought the "Branded" iBex Flytouch3.
ChinaGrabber is also a supporter of the forum so if their products have quality issues, including iBex tablets, I am sure people would be complaining. For the most part, I have only seen positive reviews.
The GS-708 is a new tablet so it will probably be a while until people get it and review it.
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If a product is legit and is able to stand on its own, then name it something else. Boycott!
On a side note
This kind of business practice reminds me of "mockbusters" - movies named after the most popular moves of the moment to hopefully convince people to waste cash on some b rated crap by misdirection. I spent two weeks of research before buying my Iconia - easy to see how if i had not done my homework I could have been totally ripped off.
entropy.of.avarice said:
This kind of business practice reminds me of "mockbusters" - movies named after the most popular moves of the moment to hopefully convince people to waste cash on some b rated crap by misdirection. I spent two weeks of research before buying my Iconia - easy to see how if i had not done my homework I could have been totally ripped off.
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Yup. When pirates of the carribean 2 came out, a soft porn movie came out called "pirates". Being a zombie fan, I've seen dozens and dozens of cheap budgeted movies with very similar names to high budgeted movies.
We need to stop endorsing these practices with our money.
Hey folks, I have to agree.
I bought a couple of inexpensive Chinese tablets on my tablet journeys. One was the Haipad M701-R that wasn't so great so I sold it. The other is my current 7" cheapie: a Rena3 that is actually an okay piece in most respects, but suffers from poor video playback due to shoddy support by the manufacturer with no promise of...anything to fix it anytime soon or...ever maybe.
What you save in money you lose in ongoing support, even with the better built ones.
The closet full of coding slaves the small companies have is only good for a couple of firmware revisions at best before the next big device they want to sell has to be coded for.
REAL support ends up being through the community in the form of someone in the know creating custom firmwares for these cheapie tabs, if you are lucky.
IF
The satisfaction level with my a500 is through the roof by comparison, and the firmware came down the line on it's own and WORKED.
PRICE IS NOT VALUE
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So I was looking @ chinese devices and I saw this one at chinagrabber.com and would like to know what u all think. Its called the gs-708. I want a tab that runs gingerbread with decent specs, duel cameras and supports 3g and sim cards. Advice is welcome. Didn't know where else to post this. I know the nookis an easy device to root but imlooking for a device with a little more to offer. Idealized there will be little to no device support but I am learning to work with devices.
Here's the link.
http://chinagrabber.com/gs-708-cell...---android-2-3-tablet-pc---3g-flash-10-4.aspx
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I would warn anyone off ChinaGrabber.
I bought a Flytouch 3 10" tablet from them.
The GPS was locked to Chin.
The battery lasted 1 hour after charges, and later on the charge would not 'take'.
Finally the battery exploded, destroying the tablet and filling the room with toxic fumes.
ChinaGrabber's answer to the GPS and battery was to send me to some dumb forum and I was told to try the things posted there.
When I did try them and told them it didn't work they told me that doing these things invalidated my warranty.
PayPal (the scamming bastards) upheld my payment guarantee complaint, but then reversed their decision - they said to get the refund I had to send the item back in the condition I received it, I told them it was melted, cracked and burnt from the exploding battery, they said it's either condition-I-received-it, or no refund, then cancelled the entire claim on me.
Don't buy ChinaGrabber, don't use PayPal..
Check out the Rena3. It is a dual core tablet with a &
I've owned a couple of the cheaper Chinese tablets...one M0003 7" and a 7" rockchip tablet. I gotta say, that while it was fun to take them both apart and dork around with the insides, the fact that I ended up needing to take them apart to fix them should be a good indicator of quality control. The touchscreen went out on the first one, and while I could still use it with a mouse, it was useless as a tablet and the second had a shoddy joint at the battery and I had to resolder it to keep it going. After those experiences, I decided to go with a better name and got a Gtablet. Still have that and its ticking away like clockwork. My 6 year old uses it to play Angry Birds and watch videos every day. I got my A500 for my daily driver and have not been disappointed at all. I don't think I will ever buy another knock-off tablet again. The use-ability just isn't there, and the QC is questionable at best. My advice is if you want something with 3g capabilities, try to find a used Xoom or A501 on Ebay or something, cause even used it will be a better choice than a no-name.
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If the name sounds almost like something really popular, best to stay away from it.
If a product is legit and is able to stand on its own, then name it something else. Boycott!
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I hear that. The iPed was an obvious one.
But, Apad, which is in the GS-708 title is a word that discribes a Chinese Android Running tablet pc or "Android pad" or A pad. Do not think that sounds like anyting mainstream.
You guys are right to always do research on a product before buying it. I think this is why the OP posted thread.
Here is a list of smartwatches from SHENZHEN HOP INDUSTRIALCO.,LTD. It contains four Android based smartwatches (EC308, EC309, EC408 and EC409).
Google Docs does not format correctly so download for proper viewing.
I will let you know now that Orsto were trying to pass off the Dynamic (EC309) and Bliss (EC316) models as their own on a crowdfunding site. They are still trying to pass off the Bliss (EC316) as an Orsto product.
*I am not trying to sell any of these devices. This is the only full catalog I have for Hopu devices and posted it for reference purposes only.
Thats the one thing I don't like about crowd funding sites; too easy for some scammer to pass off these wholesale products as their own.
Here is the "A.I Smartwatch," aka the Ec308/309. Whats funny is their marketing images don't even consistently show the same watch
Is it just me, or don't these things look pretty hideous?
Ripping off windows mobile start screens, with a generous dose of kitsch added? The watch faces look particularly scary. I guess there isn't going to be an Omate style stretch goal face off, lol.
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I will let you know now that Orsto were trying to pass off the Dynamic (EC309) and Bliss (EC316) models as their own on a crowdfunding site. They are still trying to pass off the Bliss (EC316) as an Orsto product.
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I don't even see Orsto X1 on IGG anymore. Was it even fully or partially funded?
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Thats the one thing I don't like about crowd funding sites; too easy for some scammer to pass off these wholesale products as their own.
Here is the "A.I Smartwatch," aka the Ec308/309. Whats funny is their marketing images don't even consistently show the same watch
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I publicly posted on their FB page that it is an EC308/309. Also posted that it doesn't come with official Play Store support as the "inventor" claims.
UPDATE- AI Watch just deleted my comment and locked their FB post. Truth hurts
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Is it just me, or don't these things look pretty hideous?
Ripping off windows mobile start screens, with a generous dose of kitsch added? The watch faces look particularly scary. I guess there isn't going to be an Omate style stretch goal face off, lol.
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It's a WP launcher.
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I don't even see Orsto X1 on IGG anymore. Was it even fully or partially funded?
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They got pulled from IGG. That's why Orsto is over on another crowdfunding site claiming another smartwatch as theirs.
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...They got pulled from IGG. That's why Orsto is over on another crowdfunding site claiming another smartwatch as theirs.
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Since they weren't on KS or IGG, which site are they on? But either way, what a scam! Hopefully by now consumers are more educated about smartwatches and these crooks will never get fully funded. Only those with true innovation get word of mouth which drives success of crowdfunding.
Thanks for that pdf info. For sure EC308/309 and EC408/409 looks interesting. What I noticed is their x09 versions add an option for tri-band WCDMA. I tried googling the subject and majority of answers point to not compatible with Verizon. Most likely its a same chipset as used by Omate. Kind of sad that I'm stuck with Verizon...
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Thats the one thing I don't like about crowd funding sites; too easy for some scammer to pass off these wholesale products as their own.
Here is the "A.I Smartwatch," aka the Ec308/309. Whats funny is their marketing images don't even consistently show the same watch
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Btw, the guy behind AI Swartwatch campaign is starting to spam forums with "hey, look at this cool new smartphone". Already been spotted on AndroidForums where his post got deleted and he was banned. I would not be surprised if he is going to show up on XDA lol!!!
Looks like he some how got a story on Engaget. Guessing one or two of you guys are on there. http://www.engadget.com/2013/09/29/ai-android-smartwatch-indiegogo/ He's trying to claim he is using the EC309 as a shell/prototype.
I already bought this smartwatch here http://www.watchmobilephone.com/vapirius_ax2.htm as a Vapirius AX2. It's not bad but it is missing a menu button pretty badly. There is some kind of soft menu button in the notification area but it is a gimmick...
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He's trying to claim he is using the EC309 as a shell/prototype.
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Not according to my conversation with him. "the hardware are not close to the Ec309"
He also seems to be of the opinion that a custom ROM makes it a completely different device.
To add even more to the mix regarding the A.I. Watch, almost all the photos of models wearing it are shopped. http://imgur.com/a/P5aIE
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lol, thanks for the morning laugh.
I'm just here to say I just backed a new smartwatched called 'AI'... Haha just kidding, I actually pre-ordered the Neptune Pine.
Seriously though, with all the scamming surrounding smartwatches. I'm actually glad I held back from backing Omate. Sad but true. I haven't seen them immerse the omate in water. I haven't even seen them demonstrate "the running of various apps" to determine whether their claim that 90% of the play store actually worked with their device. I have the motoactv for reference, but even this device has flaws running certain apps, especially bluetooth related ones. In certain apps you can't see everything because of screen size, others simply wont run and force closes etc etc. Needless to say, i still love my motoactv.
Omate has shown a working prototype and has even done live interviews (cnbc), but I remain skeptical. Where is the hole for the microphone and speaker located? How well can the other person hear you? For reference, I know Omate did a demo of a phone call, but within the demo you could actually hear the caller nearby if you listen closely. I have faith in omate, but i cant say i have strong faith. I won't be surprised if the product releases later than expected. And if it doesn't release at all, I won't be surprised, but i hope that it actually gets released so i could get my grubby hands on this awesome concept of a product.
@savaged: Wait, with all the info and discussions about Omate vs Neptune Pine, you suggesting Omate is scamming us and thus you decided to fund Pine?!? Honestly, this is the first one I heard so far on XDA or anywhere else... Unless you pulling our legs, Good luck!
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@savaged: Wait, with all the info and discussions about Omate vs Neptune Pine, you suggesting Omate is scamming us and thus you decided to fund Pine?!? Honestly, this is the first one I heard so far on XDA or anywhere else... Unless you pulling our legs, Good luck!
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lol no, I'm not funding Neptune Pine, it was a joke. After observing the Omate discussions, I realize that Neptune Pine is highly likely to be vaporware. And well, from the looks of it, Omate isn't scamming anyone. I'm just a bit disappointed with them. They aren't showing off their goods properly. It leaves a lot of room for skepticism. Just like everyone else, I'm pretty anxious to see it.
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Not according to my conversation with him. "the hardware are not close to the Ec309"
He also seems to be of the opinion that a custom ROM makes it a completely different device.
To add even more to the mix regarding the A.I. Watch, almost all the photos of models wearing it are shopped. http://imgur.com/a/P5aIE
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that link sends me to a empty gallery :S I'm a little worried as I pre ordered the base model off their campain then realised it is a watch i'd seen before on watchmobile the ax2 >.< so I dont know what to do now.
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that link sends me to a empty gallery :S I'm a little worried as I pre ordered the base model off their campain then realised it is a watch i'd seen before on watchmobile the ax2 >.< so I dont know what to do now.
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Did you preorder via the website or pledge on Indiegogo? If you pledged on Indiegogo you can always cancel your pledge. As far as the images, here is a direct link to one of the original images.
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Did you preorder via the website or pledge on Indiegogo? If you pledged on Indiegogo you can always cancel your pledge. As far as the images, here is a direct link to one of the original images.
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Wow that is hilarious! Didn't see that original picture before!
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Wow that is hilarious! Didn't see that original picture before!
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Almost all his stills on the main campaign page are shopped. :laugh:
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Did you preorder via the website or pledge on Indiegogo? If you pledged on Indiegogo you can always cancel your pledge. As far as the images, here is a direct link to one of the original images.
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I pre ordered on indiegogo I didnt know they have a site? Also how would I get a refund on indiegogo? it charged my card as soon as I pre ordered.
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I did a hands-on (in german) of the EC308 or Vapirius AX2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzbaRG8wslM&feature=c4-overview&list=UUjLvP7zL2M8-9AtRtQ4gUCw
If fact, a good SmartWatch. BUT the inpout is horrible. Using Fleksy-Keyboard is better, but does not work if you rae using german language
Will do a longer review soon.
I'd like to ask, does anyone have any info about the Hopu EC408/EC409 models? Do they really ship (or - from where - I only found something on alibaba.com with not much info to it -> anyone have any experience there?). I'm quite surprised that there is no review/no youtube demonstration of them etc. I've been looking into 'smart watch phones' for quite some time and these look the best for me - especially I like the fact that it can be detached from the strap (or so it seems from images) - unlike devices like O. Truesmart / Callisto 100... which have antennas in their straps.
So, pls, does anyone know something more to these 'watches'? (or do you know about sth. similar to them?)
(Maybe, is there some list of watches like this? I wrote down a few for my future reference:
with 2G/3G functionality:
omate truesmart
Iconbit Callisto 100
xTouch Wave
burg 17
zgpax S5
Hopu EC409
sWaP (Hopu?) EC308/EC309
A.I. Watch
Exetech XS-3
Pearl Simvalley AW-414/AW-420/AW-421
without sim slot:
galaxy gear
motorola motoactv
sony smartwatch 2
smartQ Z Watch
I'm watch
geak watch
uplay z3
OP has to really be pleased with their first unboxing video on Youtube. What an embarrassment for any company to have this as a first impression. Here is the link: www.youtube.com/watch?v=WePC7cISM7U
wilbarger said:
OP has to really be pleased with their first unboxing video on Youtube. What an embarrassment for any company to have this as a first impression. Here is the link: www.youtube.com/watch?v=WePC7cISM7U
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For a $1 I wouldn't complain.
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For a $1 I wouldn't complain.
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The OP group must be really proud of their first impression they are making. They are gonna be the laughing stock across the internet. This launch has been a joke from the start. They will NEVER make it in this cut throat business since they have no business sense to fight back with.
Although I think the comments are a bit harsh. I do think they have valid points. Regardless if it costs these contest winners $1 or not. There moto is never settle. So I would assume this would also carry forward with how there products are packaged and shipped as well. Even from startups like BLU you get a much more polished package. The plastic screen protector that was hanging off the screen once the guy took the bubble wrap off was pretty embarrassing. You only get one chance to make a first impression. And if this is the impression oneplus wants to set its not a good one. The phone itself can only carry so much weight when it comes to polish. There was to be a level of delivery, distribution and packaging that give that all around professional feel.
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cas8180 said:
Although I think the comments are a bit harsh. I do think they have valid points. Regardless if it costs these contest winners $1 or not. There moto is never settle. So I would assume this would also carry forward with how there products are packaged and shipped as well. Even from startups like BLU you get a much more polished package. The plastic screen protector that was hanging off the screen once the guy took the bubble wrap off was pretty embarrassing. You only get one chance to make a first impression. And if this is the impression oneplus wants to set its not a good one. The phone itself can only carry so much weight when it comes to polish. There was to be a level of delivery, distribution and packaging that give that all around professional feel.
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I am in agreement with you on your comments. They are going to be skewered on sites like XDA. For the most part, the members around here are not a bunch of noobies and notice off the wall crap like this shipping fiasco.
I made my comment about this on the OP forum.
I don't care if it was $1 that unboxing is a bad 1st impression. IMO no reason to not have a decent packaging for your 1st 100 customers.
Even the screen protector didn't look to be on the screen very well.
I know it's a $300 device but after watching that I may just hold off for the Nexus 6.
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I made my comment about this on the OP forum.
I don't care if it was $1 that unboxing is a bad 1st impression. IMO no reason to not have a decent packaging for your 1st 100 customers.
Even the screen protector didn't look to be on the screen very well.
I know it's a $300 device but after watching that I may just hold off for the Nexus 6.
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I also commented on their forums. In fact, I am surprised I haven't been banned like others have for expressing their conflicting opinions or questioning the methods used.
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I also commented on their forums. In fact, I am surprised I haven't been banned like others have for expressing their conflicting opinions or questioning the methods used.
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My enthusiasm has sort of slipped after seeing that boxing. I wonder what other corners were cut. I'm starting to wonder if they're sitting at the kitchen table and putting them together. I guess I'm thinking from a warranty stand point also
Hopefully we will start seeing some full reviews soon.
Daps said:
My enthusiasm has sort of slipped after seeing that boxing. I wonder what other corners were cut. I'm starting to wonder if they're sitting at the kitchen table and putting them together. I guess I'm thinking from a warranty stand point also
Hopefully we will start seeing some full reviews soon.
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Well, I think we have to throw out the first 100 reviews as these guys are not likely to admit that they got exactly what their $1 purchase is worth.
you guys did watch the video right? he said that oneplus said that this is how the smashers will get their devices, and theyll be sent the charger and the rest later since they are not ready. hopefully itll look like this when done -> http://www.gizchina.com/2014/04/28/...ng-pictures-revealed-bonus-64gb-model-images/
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Well, I think we have to throw out the first 100 reviews as these guys are not likely to admit that they got exactly what their $1 purchase is worth.
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I hate to admit it but that thought crossed my mind.
I think there's a Mod here who's getting one soon so that review should be better than some.
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you guys did watch the video right? he said that oneplus said that this is how the smashers will get their devices, and theyll be sent the charger and the rest later since they are not ready. hopefully itll look like this when done -> http://www.gizchina.com/2014/04/28/...ng-pictures-revealed-bonus-64gb-model-images/
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Yes I saw the video about getting the charger, headphones, etc at a later date and IMO it would be better to wait and ship them all together.
They knew and planned the contest. They should have had enough stuff for 100 units. For all we know these devices could be in house user devices.
If they're having problems with 100 chargers and accessories, what are they going to do about 100k+ potential buyers?
Bad first impression. To my knowledge nothing was posted previous saying this is how they would be shipped.
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you guys did watch the video right? he said that oneplus said that this is how the smashers will get their devices, and theyll be sent the charger and the rest later since they are not ready. hopefully itll look like this when done -> http://www.gizchina.com/2014/04/28/...ng-pictures-revealed-bonus-64gb-model-images/
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Yes, I did watch the video. Since they had some of this packaging, are you trying to tell me that they did not order more that the dozen or so that got sent out for reviews? This is totally idiotic on OP's part to do something like this. The forums are going nuts about their low quality packaging on the first shipments. How in the world do they think this will not destroy all their bravado about being a Flagship Killer. You can't ship crap like this out and not expect to lose all credibility that they have pompously built up. Absolutely incredible to me that these bozos did this. Sorry if you think that I am being harsh, but sometimes the truth hurts.
well, the first 100...
when the device will be ready for everyone will come with a nice box and everything... if you ask ... why i don't have a invite? the answer is: because you can't understand that this is not the final release, or package or the final battery life, or the final etc....
really stop.... this is a taste of the 1+1... just that, dont be saying "bad impression" if you cant handle this, then wait for 2 months(and buy the "final version")... really im very surprised, this kind of commentary in xda, why??
just wait...
They could have planned his contest a little better, but this doesn't affect how I feel about the phone. Your disappointment over this issue, which doesn't affect anyone other than the 100 that got the phone, just sounds like you're invested too heavily in the hype machine. I'm sure that OP had good intentions with getting these 100 phones to the winners asap since they do need a new phone after smashing their old one. Don't buy it this actually upsets you. It's one more invite for someone else.
Jesus christ.
Some of you people will dig and dig for literally any reason to hate this device. You'll get one soon enough and it'll be fine, just be patient.
This isn't unusual for an advance release. Of course they're usually sent to industry insiders, not end users, so they should have known the unwrapping would have ended up on YouTube. But I don't consider it some big scandal, everyone knows they're pre-release promotional items so the faux outrage seems a bit much.
New devices always have problems when first released.The n4 and n5 for example.
So wait let the hype settle down.
Wait a couple of months then order your one.
Just my 2cents.
Retail packaging will be much better. It will be a finished retail product.
These winners were advanced, before retail packaging was ready. Just wait for the retail unboxing videos. Everyone that reviewed the device has commented about how good the quality is. The retail product will not disappoint. Packaging will be as good as the final product, just like the packaging that was seen in the video with Steve Kondik unboxing the One.
Steve's video is HERE.
Oh come one! How can there be people justifying this BS. Man, they couldn't put 100 units together with their retail package and not even a CHARGER? This is unjustifiable. This company's main marketing will be over social media by its users (evangelists). These first 100 phone should have arrived in a SPECIAL package since they are for the winners of a very much hyped promo (Smash The Past) that asked to destroy $700 devices! This is without mentioning that the first units (pre-production) had defects that were justified because they weren't actual retail but hey considering that this is the only marketing they had they should have released something near perfect.
Guys this company and product are not ready. They couldn't get 100 devices in weeks they won't be able to produce not even 5,000 in 2 months.
Note: I consider my self a supporter of Oneplus since I believe that what they tired to do with a device like this at the right price it commendable but this sucks and you don't have to be a marketing expert to know that this is going wrong.
dammm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfNCT_fUCeY
I tend to think the Sold Out is artificial, how could they not have been ready for roll out with all the ads and publicity?
Perhaps they're purposely trickling them out, waiting on real world reports, before some battery blow up or other fiasco happens and having to recall millions..
Better safe then sorry, right Samsung, Sony?
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I tend to think the Sold Out is artificial, how could they not have been ready for roll out with all the ads and publicity?
Perhaps they're purposely trickling them out, waiting on real world reports, before some battery blow up or other fiasco happens and having to recall millions..
Better safe then sorry, right Samsung, Sony?
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Seriously, how could Google not understand that their products sell? It started with the Nexus 4 and it's been the same EVERY SINGLE RELEASE.
They do this on purpose it seems, because come holiday season, it's magically available again. Plus, the 32gb Silver XL is still available, how is that possible?
Hopefully it's not a bait and switch where their Hardware vendors run out of a certain part and they have to Source it from a different vendor and it's not the same quality as the original.
ie white casing cracking, black glass being weaker, screens with strange hues, cameras with halos, slower ram, batteries buldging ect..
Black Xl 128 was showing up in stock every 6-7 hrs for 20mins. Then it was Silver Xl 128.. Why not keep allowing preorders and fill orders as they become available?
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Hopefully it's not a bait and switch where their Hardware vendors run out of a certain part and they have to Source it from a different vendor and it's not the same quality as the original.
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Really don't think that's the case. It's probably just waiting maybe an extra week for a new shipment from wherever HTC's manufacturing building is located. Don't be fooled, Google isn't building these things in Mountain View, CA, as they'd have you believe.
I'd really like to see the initial numbers from the Nexus 6P last year. How many were ready to go at launch? They have to have these figures.
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Really don't think that's the case. It's probably just waiting maybe an extra week for a new shipment from wherever HTC's manufacturing building is located. Don't be fooled, Google isn't building these things in Mountain View, CA, as they'd have you believe.
I'd really like to see the initial numbers from the Nexus 6P last year. How many were ready to go at launch? They have to have these figures.
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Yea it says made in Taiwan in the back, but Samsung has been known to hoard thier screens, especially now with their Note7 troubles. My main reasoning towards moving to a Pixel is its screen vibrancy.
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Yea it says made in Taiwan in the back, but Samsung has been known to hoard thier screens, especially now with their Note7 troubles. My main reasoning towards moving to a Pixel is its screen vibrancy.
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Google releases batches at a time, I'm convinced of this.
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Google releases batches at a time, I'm convinced of this.
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Unless this in stock tracker is wrong, and I have been watching it since it started tracking and personally checked stock on googles site and confirmed most of the time, youre possibly right
Either that or few come back in stock from cancelled or orders that didnt go through.
http://www.nowinstock.net/electronics/mobilephones/unlocked/googlepixel/
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Yea it says made in Taiwan in the back, but Samsung has been known to hoard thier screens, especially now with their Note7 troubles. My main reasoning towards moving to a Pixel is its screen vibrancy.
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NEW IMPROVED PIXEL with 5.7" screen and stylus? hmmmm. before you realize it's too late KA-BOOM!
Man everyone is a conspiracy theorist here?
Google never said these phones were made in the USA. It's widely known that HTC was doing the manufacturing. And to be honest compared to the Nexus's this is the first time a lot of my friends have even mentioned a google phone. Most probably don't know what a Nexus is. That + the previous amount of nexus's sold + the Note 7 Fiasco probably put in way more preorders than expected.
I mean iphones have been selling like hotcakes for years and they sell out too.
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Man everyone is a conspiracy theorist here?
Google never said these phones were made in the USA. It's widely known that HTC was doing the manufacturing. And to be honest compared to the Nexus's this is the first time a lot of my friends have even mentioned a google phone. Most probably don't know what a Nexus is. That + the previous amount of nexus's sold + the Note 7 Fiasco probably put in way more preorders than expected.
I mean iphones have been selling like hotcakes for years and they sell out too.
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Widely known? Where in the official documentation and release presentation was HTC mentioned at all? What about the TV commercial spots, or on pixel.google.com?
As in every tech review mentions HTC one way or another as the company that helped manufactured. The way you are saying it every single apple presentation should also say ASSEMBLED BY FOXCONN, or MOST PARTS MADE BY SAMSUNG
the Note 7 will have been a big sales booster, I wouldn't have one if my Note hadn't went back and when talking to EE placing the order the rep said the vast majority of people returning the Note's were taking the Pixel and to a smaller extent the iPhone, so chances are with this Google has just hit a gold mine on the back of Samsung's failure.
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As in every tech review mentions HTC one way or another as the company that helped manufactured. The way you are saying it every single apple presentation should also say ASSEMBLED BY FOXCONN, or MOST PARTS MADE BY SAMSUNG
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I liked the email I got from O2 telling me to get an xperia for a renowned Sony camera, yet they are in pretty much every phone and the best tend to go to other firms and not the Sony phones.
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Widely known? Where in the official documentation and release presentation was HTC mentioned at all? What about the TV commercial spots, or on pixel.google.com?
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Belimawr said:
the Note 7 will have been a big sales booster, I wouldn't have one if my Note hadn't went back and when talking to EE placing the order the rep said the vast majority of people returning the Note's were taking the Pixel and to a smaller extent the iPhone, so chances are with this Google has just hit a gold mine on the back of Samsung's failure.
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I liked the email I got from O2 telling me to get an xperia for a renowned Sony camera, yet they are in pretty much every phone and the best tend to go to other firms and not the Sony phones.
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While I'm really enjoying the PIxel and it's fast as crap. My wife and I have had Notes since the 2 so yeah pretty much on the same boat. I would have a Note 7 right now if it weren't for the chance of death. Great example too.. Everyone also should say as they are presenting their cameras.. SONY SENSOR. The iphone , pixel, even many Samsung's in the past use them along with most of the phones cameras in the world.
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As in every tech review mentions HTC one way or another as the company that helped manufactured. The way you are saying it every single apple presentation should also say ASSEMBLED BY FOXCONN, or MOST PARTS MADE BY SAMSUNG
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Ask a random person who owns an iPhone 6 "hey, do you know who built your phone?" and I guarantee you that they will say "Apple."
The Pixel was engineered/designed by Google while HTC built it. There is nothing wrong with that, but it's just a little bit of false advertising especially since HTC is a known and current phone designer/builder themselves.
Lastly, I'm not talking about the tech sites that review the Pixel. I'm talking about the lack of HTC in the advertisements that joe schmo will see on TV.
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Ask a random person who owns an iPhone 6 "hey, do you know who built your phone?" and I guarantee you that they will say "Apple."
The Pixel was engineered/designed by Google while HTC built it. There is nothing wrong with that, but it's just a little bit of false advertising especially since HTC is a known and current phone designer/builder themselves.
Lastly, I'm not talking about the tech sites that review the Pixel. I'm talking about the lack of HTC in the advertisements that joe schmo will see on TV.
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Sorry i'm a little confused here. Foxconn assembled all of apples iphones and ipads too? So what difference is there when someone else assembles google's phone.
BTW https://www.google.com/nexus/6p/ Huawei manufactured the 6p and it's only mentioned in a battery test disclaimer at the bottom of this page in the light letters.
http://www.theverge.com/circuitbrea...26/blackberry-dtek60-price-announcement-specs
Blackberry in their release to the average joes definitely doesn't mention it's made and mostly based off a TCL design.
I'm not saying there is no marketing shadow games going on here but it's an extremely common thing.
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Sorry i'm a little confused here. Foxconn assembled all of apples iphones and ipads too? So what difference is there when someone else assembles google's phone.
BTW https://www.google.com/nexus/6p/ Huawei manufactured the 6p and it's only mentioned in a battery test disclaimer at the bottom of this page in the light letters.
http://www.theverge.com/circuitbrea...26/blackberry-dtek60-price-announcement-specs
Blackberry in their release to the average joes definitely doesn't mention it's made and mostly based off a TCL design.
I'm not saying there is no marketing shadow games going on here but it's an extremely common thing.
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Huawei is plastered on the back of the 6P.
I don't know enough about Blackberry to comment.
The only difference between Apple and Google in this case is that Apple doesn't say that their iPhones are built by Apple...at least I don't think so. They don't mention Foxxcon, but they also don't say they built it themselves.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/10/26/apple_wait_wait_iphone7plus/
To show google isn't the only one having problems meeting demand.
madeby...
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Ask a random person who owns an iPhone 6 "hey, do you know who built your phone?" and I guarantee you that they will say "Apple."
The Pixel was engineered/designed by Google while HTC built it. There is nothing wrong with that, but it's just a little bit of false advertising especially since HTC is a known and current phone designer/builder themselves.
Lastly, I'm not talking about the tech sites that review the Pixel. I'm talking about the lack of HTC in the advertisements that joe schmo will see on TV.
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It's like the Maserati has a Ferrari built engine and is owned by Fiat Chrysler. Why reinvent the wheel, or waste money building wheel making facilities, when you can have an existing manufacturer build them to your specifications. This happens all over the manufacturing world.
LG/Samsung make great screens, Sony makes great camera sensors, Ben & Jerry's make good ice cream..
Anyways, anyone remember the G1? It was the HTC Dream (first phone with Android), it had no HTC logos either. Most it had was T-mobile in front and "with Google" on back.. (I still have mine)
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It's like the Maserati has a Ferrari built engine and is owned by Fiat Chrysler. Why reinvent the wheel, or waste money building wheel making facilities, when you can have an existing manufacturer build them to your specifications. This happens all over the manufacturing world.
LG/Samsung make great screens, Sony makes great camera sensors, Ben & Jerry's make good ice cream..
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What Google is doing would be as if Ben & Jerry claimed that they make the cup which contains the ice cream.
I know that's a horrible analogy, but I thought it was funny.
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Yea it says made in Taiwan in the back, but Samsung has been known to hoard thier screens, especially now with their Note7 troubles. My main reasoning towards moving to a Pixel is its screen vibrancy.
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Developers options > Picture colour mode
Was that what you were looking for ?